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EducationRe: Let This Be The Last ASUU Strike by GNwafor(m): 8:36pm On Aug 21, 2013
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EducationRe: Universities Pull Out Of ASUU Strike 2013 by GNwafor(m): 8:35pm On Aug 21, 2013
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EducationRe: Lodge Your Complaints/Comments Here by GNwafor(m): 8:34pm On Aug 21, 2013
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EducationRe: ASUU Strike by GNwafor(m): 8:32pm On Aug 21, 2013
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PoliticsRe: ASUU Strike: Jonathan Approves N400bn Lifeline –SSANU by GNwafor(m): 8:31pm On Aug 21, 2013
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EducationRe: ASUU Strike Update: Jonathan Approves N400bn Lifeline –SSANU by GNwafor(m): 8:26pm On Aug 21, 2013
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EducationRe: Latest On ASUU Strike by GNwafor(m): 8:26pm On Aug 21, 2013
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EducationRe: >ASUU To Call Off 2 Months Strike 20th August 2013??-VNTI ASUU by GNwafor(m): 8:25pm On Aug 21, 2013
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CareerRe: What Is The Hnd Equivalent In Usa by GNwafor(m): 1:33am On Mar 15, 2013
Ladson: I have heard about WES, but what i am yet to be cleared with is, is it a must that i do GRE before i apply for MS programme in USA especially online
@Ladson; In the USA, if you are seeking undergraduate & graduate admission, and you are a foreign student, you must first obtain what is called Credential Evaluation first from accredited independent organization. In USA, WES - World Education Service happens to be the most respected and honored credential evaluation organization, simply because it is the pioneer organization that established NACES-http://naces.org/. As international student also, you must write TOEFL or IELTS, and have an acceptable score in the English language Test. Also you must have a good grade in you CGPA here in Nigeria, so that when the Evaluators finish their evaluation, you will have a good CGPA in the American System.

adekanmbi1986: @Ghost87 and Nwafor : pls let me have ur contact so that we can discuss better..
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We can talk on: cementingprofessional@hotmail.com :


ghost87: Hello everyone,
I have been going through this since 2009, asking questions about the equivalence of HND In US, this and that, but unfortunately I couldn't find a reliable answer, till February 2012, and I thought of sharing it cos I believe other are out there like I was before.

First I would like to start by saying. YES!!!! NIGERIAN HND IS EQUIVALENT TO A US BACHELOR DEGREE. Am sure of what am saying because my HND transcripts (that's both my ND & HND) were evaluated as an American bachelors degree.

I would also like to tell you that working or getting admitted into American colleges is based on American qualifications and grades, so to work or get admission into American colleges, first try and get your certificate, diploma, degree or whatever you hold into American equivalence, and you can do that by sending your transcripts to one of the evaluation agencies, WES (world Education Services) http://www.wes.org/ is accepted by almost all American colleges but you can still find out more at http://www.naces.org/members.htm

For more guidelines on how to get to admission into American College with a HND a brother has helped out on his blog, and you can check it out here http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/12/hnd-and-american-universities.html and http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/03/looking-at-american-education-with_382.html

I would like to share my experience: I graduated with a HND in Electronics Engineering in 2009 from a Nigerian Federal Polytechnic, and sent my transcript to World Education Services WES on October 2011, I paid $202 for the service, the evaluation is supposed to be completed in 7days once all my documents are received, but we all know our 9ja na, considering the fact that the country was in crises it took me 3months to get my transcript to WES, again early JAN 2012 WES sent back another copy to FED POLY, for verification, and at the time our beloved nation is on strike due to subsidy matter and boko haram wahala, till 1st feb 2012, that's when WES got a feed back and my application became complete, on 8th Feb, 2012, my evaluation was complete.

I graduate in Nigeria with 3.14 out of 4.0 CGPA, which is of course our Upper Credit as we call it. But to my surprise from the evaluation my GPA was high to 3.56 out 4.0, that is based on the American System, moreover, in US they use a system of Credit Hours to determine your qualification, and in other to have a US bachelor degree, you must at-least have a minimum of 120 Credit Hours, but from my evaluation I had 135 Credit Hours, which is almost more-than that of the US. And as am typing this I have already applied to one of the top 15 engineering and technology university in the world for my masters program with a HND, and they have assured me that I would get it, after all am having a 3.56 GPA, and a good GRE score (GRE is an exams u sit for before applying for most graduate programs in US, its just like GMAT).
But still there are some few things you should be aware of, just because your transcripts are equivalent to a US degree, doesn't mean you will not take undergraduate courses, yes you will automatically be enrolled to a masters degree, as far as you meet the requirements, but there are some certain courses that you must take which of course are undergraduate courses, and the reason is because those courses are expected by all American graduates and in other to be one, you must go through it, such courses are like those related to the American policies, government, etc. (I haven't reached that stage, am just telling you based on what the school I applied for feed me too).

So to all those who keep asking, what is the equivalence of HND in US, its equivalent to a BACHELOR DEGREE smiley but you really need to make good grades in your HND before you have something of worth, because I don't think there is any American University that would give you masters program with a minimum of 3.0GPA, U might get a provisional admission with a minimum of 2.5GPA (This is based on my reasoning, and what I have been going through, so just look out, cos I might be wrong)

If you need any proof regarding this, or guidelines don't hesitate to tell me or reply me, I promise i would help if I can, cos few years ago, I was once in the same point.

Cheers!
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@Ghost; The truth is always the best. You have an informed mind, and have attested to the fact that Nigerian HND is equivalent to US BS degree, simply because you have done your Evaluation thru WES. Bravo!

PASHA1: HND is the worst qualification especially in engineering. You Think that you are an engineer, but you are not. You are not a technician as well becuase you are a bit higher in level. If you were Newton but with HND, then you are nothing. It is a respectless qualification. My best advice is to and study for a degree starting from zero. I have lost my hair because of HND.
@PASHA1; All hope is not lost, as engineering student, I have contacted Nigerian Society of Engineer (NSE), as per their regulation, with HND, you must have either a PGD in the same engineering field (from a COREN accredited Engineering PGD) or an MS in Engineering in the same engineering field. Thereafter you can register with NSE followed by COREN.

Chegal: @GNwafor- Ok, I hate to burst ur bubble but why are u up here spreading lies. My sis went to the same school and a US university made her go all 4 years. An HND is not equivalent to a Bachelors, sorry. Its a only a certificate. A Bsc is equivalent to an Associates.
@Chegal, Thanks for your comments. I am a very busy professional, was just reading online until I stumbled into Nairaland and I got to this thread. I dont care whether you believe it or not. Am not even interested whether you believe it or not. The only problem we have in Nigeria is that we have failed consistently to accept and learn from our own experiences and the experiences of others. My sharing this knowledge and information here is for positive-minded individual who feel and think that there is still future ahead of them after their HND program. For your sis that went to IMT Enugu, because you are very uninformed, there are several Credential Evaluation organizations in the US. Depending on the organization your sis used/chose, (if at all she even knows that there is what is called Credential Evaluation or Credit Transfer in US higher education admission requirement), the evaluator may decide to write anything on the evaluation because of the level of information you sis provided. For your information, The Credential Evaluators work with the information you provided them with especially those who are not NACES members who are just there online to rip off your hard-earned dollars. I still have to state it categorically clear to you and others following this thread that, when I completed my application in June 2012 and sent the required documentation for students from Nigeria. WES was not yet satisfied with the documents, because of the bad and poor national image we poses as a Country, they have to write to the Registrar of IMT Enugu for verification and authentication of the Transcripts & Statement of Result, and finally IMT replied them in late February 2013 with another copy of my Transcripts (ND & HND).
Since we Nigerian has only one adage that says that "see is believing", if you are a graduate of any Polytechnic/monotechnic in Nigeria, do your own Credential Evualation preferably with WES and share your experiences. Is just about 200 box ($200). For your information WES studies, evaluates and updates the education systems of over 200 countries worldwide, and they have very experienced Credential Evaluators with many years of experience.
I still tell you that the "difference between you and and your future is the information you have today to face and conquer your tomorrow" (A food for thought).
Please this is not a personal attack, but with the level of information proliferation on the Internet, people need to verify and authenticate what they say online.
@Chegal, there 8 Billion Pages (web pages) on the internet, use it wisely, you can improve on the information at your disposal. Cheers!
CareerRe: What Is The Hnd Equivalent In Usa by GNwafor(m): 1:09pm On Mar 12, 2013
Fellow Friends;


Take Time to go through my reply about this thread:

Without mincing words, we cannot claim the ignorance of how the western world respect, honour, accept and revere our dignified Higher National Diploma. Our ND & HND certificate and curriculum is highly acceptable for higher degree admission. For most of the us who are myopic about the curriculum which we covered in our NBTE accredited National Diploma & Higher National Diploma program. It may surprise most of you who will read this thread to know that what you studied in your ND & HND curriculum is far higher than the required credit for a BS degree program.

My Story:

I studied ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu; and a Post Graduate Diploma (PGD) Piping Design & Engineering from MIT Pune India. Believe it or leave it. I apply for credential evaluation to World Education Service (WES) - New York USA in June 16, 2012. WES requested for the Transcripts to be sent directly from the Issuing Institution from Nigeria & India respectively. The Indian School sent their directly and it was honoured. I complete the required documentation for student from Nigeria, but they request for further verification from IMT Enugu Nigeria. IMT Enugu Nigeria, replied to their letter together with another copy of my ND & HND Transcript in the last week of February 2013. Then WES promised me that my evaluation will be ready on 7th March 2013. I guessed because of the weekend, the Evaluation - Course By Course Report from WES actually came out on 11th March 2013.

You will be amazed with what am about to reveal to you from the NBTE accredited curriculum ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu Nigeria.

This is it:

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EVALUATION
Date: March 12, 2013
Ref#: 2347933

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U.S. EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY

Bachelor's degree from a regionally accredited institution




CREDENTIAL ANALYSIS
1 Credential Authentication: Transcripts were verified by the institution
Country: Nigeria
Credential: Higher National Diploma
Year: 2008
Awarded by: Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu
Admission requirements: School Certificate
Length of program: Five years
Major/Specialization: Chemical Engineering
U.S. Equivalency: Bachelor's degree
Remarks: The program included one year of industrial training.

2 Credential Authentication: Official transcripts were sent directly by the institution
Country: India
Credential: Statement of Marks
Year: 2012
Awarded by: Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
Admission requirements: High school graduation
Length of program: One year
Major/Specialization: Design
U.S. Equivalency: One year of post-secondary study
Remarks: Upon completion of the program, Mr. Nwafor was awarded the Postgraduate Diploma in Piping Design.














________________________________________
COURSE-BY-COURSE ANALYSIS
________________________________________
INSTITUTIONS-DATES-SUBJECTS U.S. Semester Credits U.S. Grades
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Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu

2003-2004

(L)Mechanics and Properties of Matter 3.0 B+
(L)General and Physical Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Statistics 2.0 A
(L)Logic and Linear Algebra 2.0 A
(L)Algebra and Trigonometry 2.0 A
(L)Technical Drawing I 3.0 B+
(L)Use of English I 2.0 B+
(L)Computer Appreciation 2.0 A
(L)Basic Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Basic Physics 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Geometry 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Calculations 3.0 A
(L)Mechanical Engineering Lab 2.0 B+
(L)General Laboratory Technology I 2.0 B+
(L)Plant Services and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(L)Citizenship Education 3.0 A
(L)Electrical Engineering Science 3.0 A
(L)Use of English II 2.0 A

2004-2005
(L)Thermodynamics 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations I 2.0 B+
(L)Mass Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Heat Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Fluid and Particle Mechanics I 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab I 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Drawing 2.0 A
(L)General Laboratory Technology II 2.0 B+
(L)Technical Drawing II 2.0 B+
(L)Communication in English 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Chemical Engineering I 2.0 A
(L)Differentiation and Integration 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Reactions 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations II 2.0 A
(L)Fuel Technology 2.0 A
(L)Instrumentation and Process Control I 3.0 A
(L)Safety and Environmental Control I 2.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab II 3.0 A
(L)Corrosion and Material Science 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Sociology 2.0 A
(L)Seminar 2.0 A
(L)Project Work 4.0 A

2005-2006

(U)Industrial Attachment ** 0.0 C
(**No credit was indicated on the original transcript)

2006-2007

(U)Advanced Algebra 2.0 A
(U)Advanced Calculus 2.0 A
(U)Laboratory Management 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations III 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab III 3.0 A
(U)Heat Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics 2.0 B
(U)Mass Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Statistical Methods 2.0 A
(U)Use of English III 2.0 B+
(U)Computer Programming 3.0 A
(U)Numerical Methods 2.0 A
(U)General Instrumentation II 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations IV 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab IV 3.0 B+
(U)Material Science and Strength of Materials 2.0 B+
(U)Fluid and Particle Mechanics II 2.0 A
(U)Polymer Technology 2.0 B+
(U)Communication in English III 2.0 B+
(U)Introduction to Psychology 3.0 A

2007-2008

(U)Chemical Plant Economics 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Reaction Engineering I 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations V 2.0 A
(U)Process Design 3.0 A
(U)Pilot Plant and Scale Up 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab V 3.0 A
(U)Industrial Management 3.0 A
(U)Food Science and Technology 2.0 A
(U)Pulp and Paper Technology 2.0 A
(U)Process Metallurgy 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations VI 2.0 A
(U)Equipment Design 2.0 A
(U)Process Control 2.0 A
(U)Plant Service and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(U)Safety and Environmental Control II 2.0 B+
(U)Petrochemical Technology 2.0 A
(U)Biochemical Engineering 2.0 A
(U)Seminar 2.0 B+
(U)Project Work 2.0 B+
(U)Literary Appreciation and Oral Composition 3.0 A
(U)Chemical Instrumentation Control 2.0 A

Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
2011-2012

Post-Secondary
Fluid Handling 4.5 A
Systems Engineering 4.5 B+
Layout Engineering 4.5 B+
Thermal Insulation, Cost of Piping, and Hygienic Piping 4.5 A
Material Specification, Instrumentation and Process Control, and Corrosion 4.5 A
Welding and NDT Management, Statutory Regulations, and Regulatory Acts 4.5 A
Stress Analysis 4.5 A





SUMMARY
Total Non-Accredited Post-Secondary Semester Credits: 31.5 GPA: 3.81
Total Undergraduate Semester Credits: 184.0 GPA: 3.76



Need to order an additional copy, go to http://www.wes.org/apply/xcopy.asp.

________________________________________

WES EVALUATION TERMS
Evaluation Scope: World Education Services (WES) evaluates only formal educational credentials. WES does not evaluate professional experience. WES evaluations are based upon the best information and resources available to professional evaluators. WES evaluations are offered as non-binding advisory opinions.
Accredited Institution: The status of a nationally recognized institution in another country is comparable to that of a regionally accredited institution in the United States.
Credential Authentication: Evaluations prepared by WES specify the manner in which each document was authenticated. The method used depends on what is appropriate for the specific country and level of education. WES authenticates academic records by one of the following methods.
• by requiring that official transcripts be sent to WES directly by the institutions or examination bodies that issued them;
OR
• by requiring that official transcripts be authenticated by the relevant government authority (e.g. Ministry of Education) before being sent directly to WES;
OR
• by verifying documents submitted by individuals by sending them back to the institutions/examination bodies that issued them and obtaining a written confirmation of their authenticity.
Detailed country-by-country document requirements can be viewed at www.wes.org/required/index.asp
Grades/ Quality Points: WES uses an alphabetic system to identify grades. The standard WES conversion of letter grades into a numerical scale/quality points is as follows: A = 4.00; A-=3.67; B+ = 3.33; B = 3.00; B- = 2.67; C+ = 2.33; C = 2.00; C- = 1.67; D+ = 1.33; D = 1.00; F = 0
• “F*” indicates a course that was failed initially, but passed on a subsequent attempt. It is not included in the GPA calculation.
• “Pass” is not included in the Cumulative Grade Point Average. For study completed at the undergraduate level, it corresponds to at least a “C” in the United States. For graduate and professional study, “Pass” corresponds to at least a “B”.
Grade Point Average (GPA) is calculated by multiplying the credits per course by the quality points for the grade for that course, repeating this procedure for each course, totaling the credit hour quality points thus obtained, and dividing by the total number of credits.
Course Level Designation: The designation “U” (upper) or “L” (lower) against a course at the undergraduate level is an indication of its level.
Credit Recognition and Transfer: The course-by-course analysis represents a breakdown of post-secondary study in terms of U.S. semester credits and grade equivalents. The number of credits accepted for transfer to a degree program or towards a professional license in the United States may vary from those listed in this report in accordance with the policies of the receiving educational institution or professional agency.
Evaluations for Professional Licensing/Certification: WES does not assess professional aptitude or experience. Only authorities qualified in the profession can determine whether an individual meets requirements for licensing or to practice the profession in the United States.




Matters Arising from the WES Evaluation:

In the US, a bachelors degree is completed in 4 years and as a BS degree student you are expected to earn/accumulate 120 credit points. But from my WES Evaluation, the combined years of studies for ND & HND is 5 years. From my ND & HND curriculum in Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu, Nigeria, instead of accumulating just 120 credits, I earned/accumulated 184 credit. (Please bear in mind that in the USA, in an MS degree, you are expected to earn just 36 credits, which if you compare with my ND & HND curriculum, you can see that I earned extra 64 credit more than a BS degree).
Also, in IMT Enugu, my ND CGPA is 3.41/4.00; and HND CGPA is 3.40/4.00. From the overall WES evaluation, my overall CGPA is 3.76/4.00.

So from the foregoing, I think that with all the threads that I have read about HND & BSc dichotomy in Nigeria, I think that if you have graduated with a HND from a Polytechnic or Monotechnic, strive for a US degree, and save yourself of unnecessary anxiety and disrespect from our BS degree counterpart.

Presently, am preparing to apply for an online MS in Engineering from a Nationally accredited university in the USA.

Note: WES Evaluation has made more proud about my HND & ND in Chemical Engineering. I will be monitoring this thread to know your comments and provide further detailed information.


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