₦airaland Forum

werisetogether:
Thought this sort of meeting was supposed to be behind closed doors

Unless the media is also being used as a negotiating gambit to wear down Zelenskyy

Trump certainly knows how to play his cards...

He intentionally made it public so people will understand the kind of leader zelensky is.

MERCHANDISER:
Bro isn't wise...if he negotiate with Putin,he can even help him win his re-election and rebuild Ukraine with the help of China

Very very possible

MERCHANDISER:
This Zelenzky guy doesn't even want the war to end.

If I were him,I will humble myself and fly to Moscow, negotiate with Putin

Yes, now that there is still some part of Ukraine not under Russia occupation

Odin13:
The arrogance of trump was in full display yesterday

God bless Nigerians

Go fix your country first before u talk about other countries problem .
You want nuclear war with Russia just because of Ukraine. Go fight Russia yourself nonsense

SalamRushdie:
She suing in what capacity ? Natasha never mentioned her na ?

Do you have laws in Nigeria ? In nigeria anything goes

Who will save Nigeria ? We need ademoyega and kaduna nzeogwu

justwise:
Zelensky has done today what no head of state has done in white house...refused to be bulled by those two buffoons.

JD vance and Trump are two shameless bullies

Una dey craze for this country ooh.
So you actually want Trump to send us soldiers to fight Russia in Ukraine? Are you aware that such action will gives Russia every justificatfion to strike us cities ? Do you want to start a world war ? What kind of humans beings do we even have here ?

EnterpriseMan:
Ukraine should be wipe off the map. All it's citizens have already found homes in other countries. They don't have the resources and man power to fight any war. Without the aid and threat of USA, Russia would have gone 100% against Ukraine long ago and wiped them off the face of the earth. They should take whatever Trump is giving them and crawl back into the hole they came from.
The clown was openly campaigning for Kamala Harris he forgot Trump shows no mercy to his enemies

Trump was actually nice. He was trying to make him see the reality of things. Usa cannot go to war with Russia. It is way toooooo risky

RealLordZeus:
This is very shameful

I feel like crying for President Zelensky..

This situation will make any country review their military alliance with the US.

Coz lets say you make a deal with a cool headed president and someone like President Trump comes in and rubbish everything.


Political stability is part of what makes a country a developed one

What exactly do you really want trump to do ? Give zelensky more long range weapons to strike deep into Russia, with the help of usa soldiers ? Do you know the consequences of direct conflict between usa and Russia? You guys should be very thankful that someone like
Trump is the president of usa

Racoon:
Even Wole Soyinka and his gang of radicals defended the putschists from the outset in 1966. Let's hear Soyinka's view today

Forget it bro. The man in him, is long gone

Softmirror:
So you mean to say Igbos were greedy and that was why they plotted that coup?!

Hahaha. Educating a clown will always prove an impossible task.

Softmirror:
That is a transition from a civilian government to a military government which Army has 60% of it's Major as Igbos. It's simple Logic. If Igbos dominated the coup it is expected that Igbos will dominate the government. It's just common sense.

Going by your answer which is still wrong. How does the millitary system of government favour the igbos, since an igbo man is already the president. An igbo is the head of the millitary. The Eastern Region as at December 1965 has the fastest growing economy in the while wide world(these are verifiable facts). Now once again, explain to me how the January 1966 coup would have benefitted the igbo race, because you called it an igbo coup.
Once again, the Nigeria millitary as at January 1966(eve of the coup) has 60% of there majors from igbo extraction. It is a fact.

Now Softmirror explain how the igbo coup will help Igbos in nigeria ?
You may hate the igbos all you want, but it also to your benefit to understand who your real enemies are.

Chief obafemi awolowo before his death had admonished the yorubas to work with igbos and secceed from Nigeria.
Hope you will not regret like awolowo on your dieing bed

Softmirror:
You already said Igbos are the most beneficiary of the Nigerian Army so?

I said that 60% of majors in the Nigerian millitary as at January 1966 are igbos. So any group of majors selected for any purpose would likely produce more igbos than any other tribe.

Now, explain to me how the january 1966 coup, if successful could have benefitted the igbos ?

Softmirror:
Lol 😂. Kindly take heart and cheers.

Can you tell me how the 1966 could have benefitted the igbos ?

Softmirror:
I hope you know that you are actually reinforcing the fact of it being an Igbo while thinking you are making an excuse for it being an Igbo coup.

Like I said, am not trying to convince you to believe is not an Igbo. Virtually all the key players involved directly and indirectly(igbos and other ethnic, including yoruba) has confirmed that it was not an Igbo coup. Am trying to give you more perspective to realise your mistake.
60% of majors in nigeria army as at then were igbos. But most of the lower rank officers are northers mainly from middle belt.
If 60% of the majors in millitary are igbos, there is strong likely hood that any unbiased selection of group of millitary men, will produce more igbos in the group against any other ethnic group.
Also keep in my mind that the coup was stopped by majorly Igbo officers, including ojukwu in kano.

Lastly, what do you think the igbos will benefit from the coup ? Can you tell me ?

Softmirror:
Like David Hundeyin like IBB both have one thing in common. Telling LIES........

Out of all of David Hundeyin's allegations against Tinubu none turned out to be true. Not even in the court of law in the United States of America.

IF THINGS DIDN'T GO WRONG ACCORDING TO PLAN, AND THE IGBO 95% DOMINATED COUP PLOTTERS CONTINUED SUCCESSFUL, RUNNING OBVIOUSLY AN IGBO GOVERNMENT. EVERY IGBO WILL BE PROUD TODAY LIKE THEY WERE PRIDEFUL WHEN MAKING MOCKERY OF OTHERS AND NOT SEEK TO DENY 'THEIR OWN COUP' AN IGBO COUP WHICH WAS THEIR PRIDE BEFORE THE COUNTER COUP THAT HUMBLED AS WELL AS HUMILATED THEM. AND EVER SINCE, AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY THE IGBO MAN TRIES TO FREE HIMSELF OF THIS HUMILIATION. THAT IS WHAT IBB'S BOOK MEANS TO THEM, DESPITE CONTRADICTORY IN IBB'S OWN ACCOUNT, WHICH IS VERY OBVIOUS IN HIS BOOK.

It is interesting how IBB didn't write about the counter coup which he also participated fully. One which purpose was to kill Igbo officers, of which they actually did kill them simply because of the obvious perception that the coup, one which needs no arguing was an Igbo coup. Else why were the running after Igbo officers to kill them? Was it simply because Igbo officers wives and Igbos in the North were making a mockery of Tafawa Balewa, Sardauna and others who were not Igbos?! Why the mockery by Igbos?! It was because even Igbos themselves saw it as 'OUR COUP' an Igbo coup and so they were jubilating the intial success of the coup, an Igbo coup.

Am not trying to change your mind about igbos, but here is one more fact you must know.
Did you know that about 60% of all the majors in nigeria millitary as at January 1966 are igbos ? While the rest of the country share the remaining percentage.
If you factor this in, you will understand why most of them are igbos

ScamHunter:
Eliminated all his political enemies and sowed an eternal discord by keeping mum when the British tagged it an Igbo coup.Talk of chameleonic double-facedness. No wonder hell gets hotter and hotter for him.

The question is, was obafemi awolowo actually aware that the coupists were doing this for him to be installed as the president or prime minister ? That is the question we need to ask before cruxifying him.

Is possible that a group of young soldiers may hold a particular politician in high esteem . They may wish he is at the helm of affairs in there country. They may wish to handle things by themselves. But it is also possible that the beneficiary(awolowo) is not aware of this plan.
Imagine all the things that happened then and substitute awolowo with someone like Peter obi. You will understand that he may not be aware of such plans.
Mind you, am not trying to exonerate awolowo. But am yet to see any proof or any acccount that suggests he knows about this coup before it happened

fuckJones:
soludo is 1000 Mile better than obi

Is he also better than ur father ? Ur mama needs to hear this

aswani:
Ogundipe could see the handwriting on the wall, why should he ascend a throne when bloodthirsty Ndi North officers were looking to kpai non-Northerners? Would Ojukwu had fed his family, look at how Obidients are minimising Fajuyi's sacrifice for Aguyi-Ironsi.

Also, people should remember that despite being the most senior person in the army, an ordinary sergeant of northern extraction had refused orders from him and blatantly told him he was only accepting orders from Northern officers. This was just about the start of the return match and the Army were trying to understand how to respond.

Immediately after things settled, he ran off to become a military Attache to the high commission in the UK and I believe refused to return to the country repeatedly.

Please Obidients, leave Ogundipe out of it.

The goal was to weaken the resolve of the young Northern soldiers. They cannot disobey your orders in your stronghold, which is your region. The least thing ogundipe could have done was to declare oduduwa republic, just like ojukwu did, if not for anything, but for the sake of his own people.
No sensible person would entrust the life of his people in the hands of blood thirsty, power hungry young Northern soldiers.
Just declare oduduwa, while ojukwu does the same. This move will weaken the resolve of the Northern soldiers. They would have abandoned the war and declared there own country

ChiefJusticeFuc:
Ojukwu was lucky he wasnt in the north or western Nigeria of else he would've been one of the first to be eliminated.


From the day Gowon assumed power , Ojukwu's leg never stepped foot outside his yeast other than guaranteed safe visits to Abure , Ghana.

Clown, how many times did gowon visit Eastern region after ojukwu opposed him ?
Let's talk about ogundipe who ran away like a rabbit, when no one was chasing him. If ogundipe acted like a soldier and declared himself the head of state, against the declaration of young Northern soldiers, murtala and his boys would have faced a daunting task, trying to defeat Eastern Region, mid West and western region. All ojukwu was fighting for was for other regions to declare there state, in other to weaken the resolve of young northern soldiers. But he ran away like a rabbit. Awolowo also did something similar, instead of declaring the oduduwa republic when he left prison.
Today, you all are crying for regional govt. Even awolowo regretted fighting igbos to keep nigeria.
Hope you are proud of the Nigeria your forefathers fought for.

ChiefJusticeFuc:
Ogundipe should remain in an undisciplined army that had witnessed 2 coups in less than a year ?

If Ogundipe had assumed power , Ojukwu would have still go ahead to plot a coup against him.

If he had that intention, he wouldn't have asked ogundipe to declare himself the head of state. He would have been praying that ogundipe would quitely resign

OMBIIGA:
In this context Ojukwu is wrong. You can dedict to those that came out victorious in a military putsch on who to lead them. In fact the putschist may choose to choose a Sergeant to lead them!!

Well, you can't call that a successful millitary putsch, if you didn't successfully capture Eastern Region. If they did, then ojukwu should have been locked up in the prison not opposing the putschist.

ChiefJusticeFuc:
Utter nonesense.

The Yoruba General had since said he wanted nothing to do with the army after barely escaping being assassinated by Ifeanjuna and co.

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Did the General ask Ojukwu to fight for him?
.ojukwu wanted heirachy so that he and not Gowon will replace Ironsi.

So On what basis or criteria should gowon be head of state ahead of ojukwu ? Tell me you dirty ewedu munching ronu ? How can you be filled with soo much bitterness still after all these revelation? Is IBB suddenly an ipob ?

ChiefJusticeFuc:
Ojukwu and ifeanjuna had no business being in the army in the first place.

Both of these men joined the army as graduates who were known to be actively engaged in Marxist çircles during their days in the university. Ojukwu was a card carrying member of the British Communist party in their Oxford branch. Ifeanjuna was a radical Marxist aligned to the Zikist movement at the university of Ibadan.

Both of these men chose a career path in the military to advance their Marxist takeover of the polity.

[b]Even Ironsi decried at one time that he 'asked for soldiers but they gave him graduate[/b]s".

Have you asked why the likes of ojukwu was still allowed to remain in the army and even converted to the officer cadre?

Who had the powers to ensure radical Zikists like. ifeanjuna became commissioned officers ?

The only person to have such sway over military recruitment was Azikiwe as President and HoS of the country.

David Ejoor spoke about these irregularities and came to the conclusion that the ibos led by Zik had planned from independence to take over the polity.

Yet another shameless lie to suit your stupid narrative.
Ironsi said 'i asked for soldiers, they gave me politicians' . He never mentioned graduates.

You ronu miscreants are bunch of hatefilled disgusting creatures

ChiefJusticeFuc:
After it was an open secret that the Yoruba General who had emerged as the most senior officer following the execution of Ironsi had made it clear that he did not want to be HoS.

Ojukwu was simply challenging Gowon's emergence as HoS on the premise that he was not the most senior officer next in line.

Guess who Ojukwu wanted to replace Ironsi - himself.

In the absence of ogundipe ojukwu had recommended based on seniority, who is next line to take o er leadership ? Was it gowon ? Between gowon and ojukwu who is senior in the millitary as at then ?

flokii:
M.K.O Abiola was a man of vision, a true leader that got massive support from North to West.. he lost in Igbo States and Igbos still played the lead role in annuling the election he won fair and square... you can't compare M.K.O to your packaged Agulu fraud a.k.a religious war merchant who rode on campaign of calumny and divisiveness to secure the meagre votes he got in places like Lagos.
We'll see the lies he'll come up with in 2027 that will make him secure South West votes.

An igbo man declared abiola winner, you dirty trash

franchasng:
Spread the truth.


Tofa/Sylvester Ugo got a total of 1.2million votes in SouthSouth while MKO Abiola/Kingibe got a total of 1.3million votes in Southsouth with a total of 5 states.


MKO Abiola/Kingibe got 740,000 votes in Southeast with just 4 states while Tofa/Sylvester Ugo got 790,000 votes in Southeast, but Yorubas keep lying that Igbos never voted MKO Abiola. God and nature will definitely pay them back with all the unjust hatred and lies against Igbos in due time





Gowon
Tinubu
INEC Yakubu
Buhari must confess.


Check this thread https://www.nairaland.com/8349170/books-these-nigerians-shock-whole

Next in line to confess is yakubu gowon, after him buhari. The earth will reject his dead body, if he fails to confess

mrvitalis:
Chieftancy title sure it's meaningless... But never ozor, king, Nze, elected officials

But
I'm thinking of the region where a governor is an ex con
Rep member was a credit wire fraud

Former governor is a drug Barron

Kings are known Yahoo boys

Yes ooh. The sophisticated morons

happney65:
A friend who is currently reading the book told me he is on page 64 where Babaginda said things about the coup and that the coup isnt an igbo coup as widely believed.

I was surprised this is coming from Babaginda. But I am not surprised about the facts because I know the facts.

I have read first hand facts about the coup by one of the major plotters Adewale Ademoyega in "Why we struck". He said "At no time in our meetings.did we.decide to single out any ethnic group,we were honourable and all we did was for love of country"

Nzeogwu
Adewale Ademoyega
Emmanuel Ifeajuna

Those 3 were the ring leaders who later brought in others to join the revolution.

But we are in an era of people not wanting to believe the truth or the facts but only wanting to believe whatever they choose to believe

To them 2 plus 2 is 22 and not 4. So with people like that who live in a world of alternative facts and realities,It is a very unfortunte scenario.

You are absolutely right.
Did you also know that the three actually represents the three major tribes in nigeria ? Nzeogwu is more northern than igbo in most ways. He grew up in the North, attended military training in the North, and was deeply integrated into the Hausa-Fulani environment.
He was incharge of carrying out coup in the north, because of this. While ademola ademoyega and the treacherous ifeajuna leads in other region.
Unfortunately, nzeogwu sounds very Eastern, but his life style, and upbringing depicts a typical Northerner. This is why the tribalists successfully sold the "igbo coup' lie . Such a shame

BafanaBafana:
Unlike you, this is not the first time we are hearing narratives about the coup. So the fact that the president attended and they donated plenty money makes whatever he said valid?
If that's how you reason, abeg you no reach to follow me argue.

IBB was a small boy in the army at that time. We have heard accounts from several key players, some of our elders were also eye witnesses.

If you are in doubt who to believe, don't believe the evil genius IBB. He is only trying to redeem his tarnished image.

Who should we believe then ? Your father ?
Typical ronu goat !!

givedemwotowoto:
Random tribal bigot on nairaland vs IBB who was in the army when the coup happened, wrote a book about it and received over 10 billion naira support from political leaders across the country, an event attended by the current President himself. Who will Nigerians believe?

Lies have expiry dates, this one has expired! Now people wonder how Agbadorians will survive if nobody is buying the lies they peddle

Ibb was in the army before they even birth his mother, yet the clown knows more than ibb

saintkel:
even if Awolowo were to come back from d dead n tell u the 1966 coup had his blessings, u will still not believe.....continue to wallow in ur sheer hatred for d Igbo race....
Spits!

Even awolowo felt sorber about the role he played in the civil war against the igbos, before his death. He admonished the yorubas to align with igbos and leave nigeria