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kokaneprodigy:
Which one be money and freedom again,
Are there some managers with money but in bondage?

Yall should stop hating someone you secretly wanted or still want at ur club.

God forbid. I don't want pep type coach again at my club. I already have one and i am seeing how he is faring without money

raumdeuter:
Chelsea have overtaken Manchester City as the football world’s biggest spenders since 2010.

Chelsea have now spent £37million more than any other side on the planet, closely followed by fellow big spenders Barcelona and City.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/europes-top-20-biggest-spending-14196912

These are the same people calling someone point and kill manager when their team has outspent City in the past decade

that is why it is net spend that you should be looking at if you decide not to be biased.

Check how many players each club have sold and how much they were sold to know the kind of value they were selling.

Eruditor:
Mou did not win with money and freedom.

There are many others like him. Ronald Koeman etc.

yeah, Just like pep did not win with money and freedom at bayern.

Eruditor:
Value is comparatively useless that is my point. Mangala was 42M but he is useless. So don't bring NetSpend if a manager sells 9 players and buys 3 back. If he sold 9 useless players and bought 3 in return who were "expensive" but quality then he did the right thing. Finish.

value is not comparatively useless, that is my own point.

It is net spend that will tell you to an extent if a team is making improving signings or just signing to remain at the same level.


Chelsea selling Costa and signing morata for same amount is not the same as city throwing Sagna and Zabaleta away for walker and danilo

Ibime:
After the tikitaka, play the blues/ (the blues, the blues) We been dey laugh as Pep dey lose/ (dey lose, dey lose) Now him dey win, we no confuse/ (confuse, confuse) Na Sheikh money wey him dey use/ (dey use, dey use)
Wetin we talk don comfam/ (confam, comfam) Without money, Pep na scam/ (na scam, na scam) Until him players bem better/ (better, better) Dem go dey chop am like ekpa/ (ekpa, ekpa)
Local sturvs no consign us/ (sign us, sign us) For UCL, na still minus/ (minus, minus) Leave local tinz for Conte dem/ (Tay dem, Tay dem) Na wetin Apari dey yern/ (dey yern, dey yern)

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lol

raumdeuter:
You're the leader that's why I'm asking you

i can never lead you guys. I am not of your tribe. Go and try Eruditor. He must be the one the gods of stupidity has chosen to lead you guys.
Goodluck

popizaino:
Isn't that the new price tag for every average defender?

yeah. That is why Rudiger and Emerson are below average defenders. No?

popizaino:
What made Messi, xavi, iniesta, eto go trophyless for two seasons before pep guardiola became the manager?I am sure you never asked yourself this before thinking you had a point by coming with your questions to defend mourinho.

By the way you can start by telling me who won the bundesliga 7years ago since before pep, bayern Munich has been winning the league back to back.

that is why nobody is calling Mourinho a genius for what he did at Madrid. Same way you should not come here to call pep a genius.




I am not saying any other thing with you on the bayernliga. Seems like you like telling yourself a lie

raumdeuter:
How else can one communicate with a stupid person?

you miss road?
Why don't you go and ask your fellow stupid people?

raumdeuter:
I am using your challenge to Pep against you

Pep come and prove yourself in England, no be so?

i am using your argument against you.


Local trophies are conte and Ranieri, no be so?

raumdeuter:
Did Mourinho do anything special at Chelsea?

stop asking me stupid questions.

popizaino:
Should that be a question when you have kaka and Ronaldo in your team? Do you know the point total pelligrini finished with? Pep won 3 bundesliga in 3years at bayern Munich while mourinho only did 1 in 3years at real Madrid. Give us your conclusion.

what stopped kaka and Ronaldo from winning Everything or at least reach ucl Semi-final before Mourinho.

Mourinho had 100 points, a record at the time. Someone picked a dying team and made them great again and you are talking about someone that took a great team and made them a laughing stock in Europe. Make A40 catch you and pep.

Did i just see bundesliga? You Must be joking right? Years before pep they were winning it, years after him, they are still winning. Winning bundesliga as a bayern manager is like a man city manager qualifying for ucl. That is the least expectation of a bayern manager.

raumdeuter:
That's because in the league, city finished ahead of man utd not by winning useless Europa cup and then finishing 6th in the league

Europa cup is now useless? The same one you are using to judge the competitiveness of the EPL this season?

Why did you omit the carabao cup, is it because Mourinho won it?

A manager with two trophies [one international] did not do better than a trophy less manager.


You are trying so hard to sound senseless

Debroslink:
Stop this false accusation. Quote where I supported him.

then don't jump into What you don't know how it started. We are using his argument against him

Ibime:
Dayo is becoming a real nuisance on this forum and ruining the Nairaland experience for those who want to catch up on their team. ChelseaBMW please take note.

How will an old man be arguing the same peurile and asinine points everyday for hours on end. Today it's one thing, tomorrow it's when did someone win a league with 2 CL finalists. I'm getting headache clicking on this thread these days.

Handshake has passed elbow oh. You guys should caution Dayo to respect his age. If it will take Airmark to post his father and mother picture to get him banned for a few weeks to allow this thread breathe like last time, I'm in support of it.

lol

popizaino:
Mourinho at real Madrid had both money and freedom but never did back to back talk more domestic treble.

where did Mourinho pick them?


Was Pep's time at bayern a failure?

airmark:
I still remember how Hazard, Costa and Willian destroyed the ettihad that day. Now, to score one goal, has become a rocket science.

each time i watch the highlight of that match it gives me goosebumps. Damn! Nobody expected chelsea to beat them at Etihad.

I was really overjoyed that day. Their both goals in the 2 legs were even mistake goals.

Debroslink:
So if Poch ends trophyless, he's had a better season than Pep with 3 trophies?

Are you kidding me?

Raumdeuter told us that the year Mourinho won 2 trophies and Pep went trophyless and you supported him

hensben:
This is Zidane letting Real Madrid to know if they are not ready to get him the players he actually want he is leaving. Same thing Pep is enjoying at man city and someone is calling him genius.

https://www.nairaland.com/5196404/zidane-threatens-leave-real-madrid

managers are beginning to demand such.


Chelsea really do conte bad, yet the man was winning titles

larride:
It seems so. Or maybe just maybe the EPL is now greater than the UCL.

i think i agree with this one

patrickmuf:
Dayo has managed to shift the goal post. He is noelw accusing folks of daring Pep to come and prove himself in England but same Dayo claimed the EPL was a local league and that the UCL is the Holy grail, in a couple of years, Klopp or any other coach will win the league and FA cup and Pep will win the UCL, then Dayo will be back with his gospel that the UCL is all and all...
If you like shout from now till tomorrow, IL whoever wins the UCL between Klopp or Poch has had a better season than Pep...

yes o. Remember
1 ucl>>>100 league titles

Eruditor:
OK. Good.

This proves that money does not buy success. Thanks.

yes. But any manager that is good will win with money and freedom. If a manager wins with money and freedom, he has done nothing special.

Eruditor:
That is why I have said net spend argument is dumb. You should count how many players were sold when determining how many were signed not the value. The value is useless.

you will be a liar if you say that the value of a player is useless.


Yes, they can be over inflated a times, but generally ability is a big determiner of value.


Nobody in this world will sell hazard for 20m. So also, nobody will buy Adama traore for 100m

TLona1:
I don't care about all these calculations.

If you were a coach and you sold 9 players in your team, what would you do to fill those spaces?

why should you call a manager that had to sell 9 players and bought more with half a billion pounds before he can win a genius, while calling a manager that didn’t have to sell anyone to win a fraud?

Eruditor:
Pogba should have the most assists and goals for midfielders.

Lukaku should have the most goals for strikers.

Liverpool should win the domestic treble atleast. They spent the most this off season.

In not more than 200 words, briefly explain why the humongous fees spent on the afore-mentioned players and club did not naturally result in them winning trophies or topping charts.

when you spend that much and don't win, i term it failure.
I don't use sentiments like you guys. That is why i currently i term klopp time at pool a failure and Mourinho at united a failure[this is despite Mourinho winning some trophies at united] despite both being two of my favorite managers.


So, when you spend more than Everyone else and win, it is nothing special to me

When you s

Eruditor:
Name the clubs that sought after Laporte.

This is the same thread were people mocked the same Laporte for not being selected by the french national team.

Nobody wanted Marcus Alonso? Gary Cahill? Morata?

please don't quote me with foolish questions again. Thank you.

airmark:
I tell ya. Even Fenibeso don tire.

lol. I don laugh tire

TLona1:
What is the crime in selling about 9 players and replacing all of them?

how much did he sell the players, minus it from the amount he used to buy new ones.


How much net spend did his rivals have before they won league and reached ucl final?

Check his net spend since he became manager, compare to others.

Melvyn11:
So by your account who are geniuses in world football? Ranieri and Di matteo should be amongst if am not mistaking.

there is no coach that i see as genius.

Now, can you list your genius managers?

thorrvik55:
How true is this?

cc: Ibime SkimpleD Airmark Popizaino Greatihex Nihilistjr et al

my brother, i tire for the man. The thing don change to 'conversation'. The same way em update the criteria for rating to accommodate salah.

raumdeuter:
That was why he came to the easy EPL like you wanted him to stay and disgraced the league

what he couldn't achieve in Barca and Bayern he did effortlessly in the weak EPL

breaking league records, Cup records like it was going out of fashion

you are calling it weak epl now, but you told us few hours ago that pep faced the most competition because his same league opponents are in European finals.



Only God can deliver you

popizaino:
All this narcos Alonso, zappa Costa, matt maizga would have been dubbed World class player if they signed for pep guardiola by those who call this same same sets of players unknown because they signed for someone else who isn't pep guardiola.

Are you serious now?

Laporte that was sort after by many clubs? Maybe you should tell us how much he was signed and swear that you knew any of the players i mentioned before they got linked to Chelsea.