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Kilishihunter:
If being overrated means contributing heavily to three trophies and 2 mins from a UCL final at the tender age of 17 then it's good to be underrated
How many goals contributions did the "underrated" palmer have throughout this season?

Everyone appreciates yamal did wonderfully well last season except Barca fans because you guys seems to make it all about yamal meanwhile he is playing with top players.


You don't appreciate other players even your coach hansi Flick. It's only yamal.

Kilishihunter:
Yamal scored 9 laliga goals and produced 13 assists the highest in the league so he contributed heavily to Barça's laliga win, he got injured towards the end of the year and the team started shaking till his return, I doubt any player in your team has his number of goal contributions across the season
Also he won the euros as the young player of the tournament before Flick signed his contract

Yamal produced only 13 assists playing with Lewandowski, Raphinha and ferran with combined 55 laliga goals

While Palmer produced 8 assists playing with Jackson, madueke and Neto with a combined 21 epl goals.

Who's the better player and what can yamal do in this Chelsea team?

You see why we're defending Cole Palmer

Kilishihunter:
Yamal scored 9 laliga goals and produced 13 assists the highest in the league so he contributed heavily to Barça's laliga win, he got injured towards the end of the year and the team started shaking till his return, I doubt any player in your team has his number of goal contributions across the season
Also he won the euros as the young player of the tournament before Flick signed his contract

Yamal produced 13 assists playing with raphina(18 laliga goals) and lewandowski(27 laliga goals)

While Palmer produced 8 assists playing with Jackson(10 epl goals)and madueke(7 epl goals)

Yamal might just be overrated.

Android17:
Just read what you're typing. If Mbuemo was as good as Lamine, he won't be heading to United. Liverpool, City, Arsenal would have wanted the player. Trust me, clubs aren't blind.

Cunha was making the difference for Wolves. Mbuemo was making the difference for Brentford. They are good players. What's common amongst them? Avoiding relegation or midtable finish is their achievement. The better players won't want that. Winning the league, UCL, POTY - that will be their focus. That's what I'm saying about Palmer.

Think about it.

So Mbeumo making the difference in Brentford doesn't count ,what were you saying about Palmer again?

You keep contradicting and making fool of yourself for my pleasure

Android17:
I'm not holding onto Lamine. You need to hide the CFC aspect of your brain as it is making you sound silly.

Lamine came up as an example of a player with a winning mentality from this season. Why will I use Foden when he didn't show it?

When Foden showed it last season, I was here saying the same about him. It seems you've forgotten that Foden was the EPL POTY 23-24. Has Palmer won it?

The CEO of a company won't be jealous of an entry level hireling. That much should be clear.

We understand It's a symbiotic relationship

Android17 and yamal

Android17:
You're still talking about 9 goals. Even when you were told a player can be impactful without scoring the most goals. Is Flicks Barca the same without Lamine?

Swap yamal for mbeumo is still the same results.

Pls appreciate Hansi Flick

Every Barca success can't be attributed to yamal

Android17:
Read your post very well. I think you made an error although I think I understand what you're trying to say. So let's analyze it.

Before Raphinha left for Barca, your club, Arsenal and Barcelona wanted him right? Think of it critically. One can assume Neto was at the same level in your club's mind when you purchased him some seasons later. I'm judging based on how much you paid for Neto vs what Barca paid for Raphinha. Don't be rigid in thinking it through. Just pause and reflect.

But now you are categorizing Neto as a dud. And something isn't telling you that your best player probably isn't influencing Neto's game productively. Don't shout. Look at Ferran Torres playing with Lamine. That should tell you all you need to know.

Difference here is the Manager. Hansi Fick is a top level coach so he brought out the best in Raphinha,ferran Torres,yamal and the rest of the team .

Pls don't allocate hansi flick's effort and appreciation to yamal abeg

airmark:


Person wey don dey craze

Real craze my guy

he doesn't understand how it feels to have a striker that miss chances.

Omo every Chelsea fan deserve a hug for surviving Torres, morata,Werner, lukaku and Jackson

airmark:
Na you high on weed when you typed this nonsense.



And there's a reason we asked you where your 9-goal Yamal would get the 45 league goals from lewandowski and Raphinha at Chelsea, to win the league?

You are too dull to understand the reason for that question.

All these argument for a player that scored only 9 goals. This is beyond agenda.

Maimakawa1:
Bro there's no player like Palmer in Man City currently, whether you agree or not and any right thinking person knows that Palmer will achieve a lot if to say He's currently in Liverpool or City team.
So forget about your agenda for Palmer, because if you noticed Palmer is becoming more and more frustrated in Chelsea matches because of the wasteful forwards they have

Android17 hate Palmer so much that he will spin any agenda to fool himself. I have never seen someone with these kind of hate before.

Android17:
I've been trying to avoid your arguments because they make no sense but you don't deserve to be called dull so you can understand my conundrum.

If Palmer is the player you people think he is, RM will try to get him to upset what Lamine is doing in Barca. We all saw Liverpool pay €150m for someone else they believe can make the difference for them. Palmer is not that guy. He has to show it before you give him that crown. That's where I cannot help you.

If you switched Palmer to Barca and moved Lamine to CFC, you'd see the difference. The Jackson and what not you are claiming isn't good will have the numbers you see Raphinha have. Raphinha was in Leeds. Before this season who here thought he was this prolific player? Don't lie to yourselves. Nobody did.

But instead of thinking critically about why his output improved so drastically, you're here making excuses for Palmer.

I've asked before so I'd ask again, what exactly is it that I, as a City fan should be worried about? My team's worst performance in years is still better than the season you're celebrating and while I was criticizing my players, you're making excuses for yours.

We aren't the same. LOL

You mean Jackson will score 33 Goals and 18 assists or is there another Jackson?

You really hate Cole Palmer,own it with your full chest.

Android17:
He's right. Why do you guys like to give your players crowns they don't yet deserve?

Shouldn't Palmer have helped your team challenge for the league last season? Isn't that what Lamine did for Barca?

Do you know Matt Le Tissier? Michu? Both players were strong individual contributors for their respective teams but nobody ever called them the best player because their teams didn't win much or finish in the top positions.

Why do CFC fans claim Palmer is on that level but then excuse him from winning major titles?

Are you telling us that Raphinha and lewandowski are better than Jackson, madueke and Neto.

The stats says otherwise so tell me you're joking....

nateevs:
Anyone can isolate any arguments, leave out context and appear to be on to something.

Context is checking to see if Yamal will be as effective playing alongside Sancho, Neto, Madueke and Jackson, then a discussion can be had.

Palmer that was playing under a very poor Poch in his very first flight in the PL, and was literally Mr Chelsea.

Exactly this is what Android17 is avoiding all the time.

VicThory:
You do know most of Yamal goals are solo. That's why I think Android is saying or he breaks defense needed for the others to flourish. But Raphinha also was a dark horse

Raphinha deserves much better,he deserves a better club where he's appreciated.

airmark:
You are using 'also' for the La Liga player of the season.

Raphinha scored 18 laliga goals while Madueke,neto and sancho couldn't score 12 goals combined.

barca fans are truly ingrates

VicThory:
You do know most of Yamal goals are solo. That's why I think Android is saying or he breaks defense needed for the others to flourish. But Raphinha also was a dark horse

I hope Barca parade a striker that misses chances like it's nothing then you would know that yamal in all his creativity would be useless, unproductive and ineffective.

That's story between Palmer and Jackson.

Somebody here still believe Cole Palmer should be the difference maker for 38 games a season in the midst of average players with no strikers.

While ignoring the fact that Barca have yamal, Raphinha and lewandowski. That's THREE

But but only cole Palmer should do it at Chelsea

Some people can be dense without knowing it.

Nick Woltmade with a hattrick for Germany u21 Euro's opener against Slovenia..... Same day he was linked with Chelsea..


What do you think?

Nick Woltemade in his maiden bundesliga season:

Goals 12
Expected goals (xG)
10.36
xG on target (xGOT) 12.90
Penalty goals 2
Non-penalty xG 7.99
Shots 49
Shots on target 26
Big chances missed 11
Touches 93%
Shot attempts. 66%
Goals 92%
Chances created 97%
Aerial duels won 74%

🚨 Chelsea FC reached out for 6”6 striker Nick Woltemade before the U21 Euros stating they were monitoring him closely and his contract situation. Stuttgart will start talks with him soon with a salary increase planned. (@AgardiJulian @BILD) #CFC

CAPdan21:
Leao
Gakpo/Barcola
Nico
Mitoma

In order of overall efficiency, shaku-shaku excluded...

Lol shakushaku excluded yet you choose Rafael Leao first

Silentgroper:
For a min, I thought you were one of us


Only to read your last statement ..


Anyways you agenda is dead on arrival..

He is a Chelsea fan what do you expect?

Android17:
It wasn't even a Palmer vs Lamine discussion in terms of talent. It was in terms of winning mentality I was implying Palmer can and should be willing his team to win even without being the top scorer and I used the Conference league final to give an example of a moment where he did it.

So you wanna tell us yamal singlehandedly won all Barca games without Raphinha and lewandowski

Or you wanna tell us yamal had this winning mentality throughout 38 league games whilest he ended up scoring only 9 goals.

Jokes on you for thinking one player can do it all alone throughout an entire season like he's a robot or Machine and not human anymore.

swiz123:
I think you are downplaying Raphinha’s effort in Barca’s season. I still remember somewhere in almost middle of the season when Flick confirmed Yamal is seriously working on his shooting as his style was limited to just dribbling.

Raphinha plays a position that limits his shooting but cleverly found a way to make marauding runs and take advantage of his precise shooting ability. Raphinha’s excellent marauding stayed consistent throughout the season and the results were self evident.

Seeing what Jackson, madueke and co does to us Chelsea fans during matchdays makes me to be more annoyed that Barca fans underrate Raphinha and lewandowski.

Barca fans are ingrates.

airmark:






This guy.

Android17 seems to know only grammar.

Lewandowski this season 39 goals 3 assists

Raphinha this season 33 goals 18 assists

Now yamal wouldn't have done nothing without lewandowski and Raphinha pumping goals to win games.

This is what Palmer lacks currently.

Android17:
It wasn't even a Palmer vs Lamine discussion in terms of talent. It was in terms of winning mentality. I was implying Palmer can and should be willing his team to win even without being the top scorer and I used the Conference league final to give an example of a moment where he did it.

One player can't do it all the time. What difference would yamal do if he was playing with average players ?

Can Barcelona win trophies without loads of goals from lewandowski and Raphinha? No

You still don't get it,do you English professor?

Ibime:
Sheathe your sword before you kill us with grammar

This is for Android17

AbokiWam:
Which one be Mike again?

After that guy up don say na 'shave' sword

I don laugh tire

Laugh abeg,I can't correct my mistake when it's funny

Android17:
Trust me, I knew who I was chatting with but his one-dimensional, vapid, lacking substance and uneducated opinions get tiring after a while. Imagine someone who thought saying no Foden to blame meant England didn't win because he didn't play. LOL. How do you even respond to that type of slow person?

Zidane and Modric will be wondering how they were impactful with their 5 goals in some seasons. A head full of hot air for a reason.

Oh my God, English Professor

akwesenana:
G🤔🤔

You wan compare Palmer from premier league in his underwhelming season to writz best season in bundesliga.

let's see both of them next season

Chelsea 28 man squad and shirt numbers for FIFA Club World Cup 2025
1 - Robert Sanchez

3 - Marc Cucurella

4 - Tosin Adarabioyo

5 - Benoit Badiashile

6 - Levi Colwill

7 - Pedro Neto

8 - Enzo Fernandez

9 - Liam Delap

10 - Cole Palmer

11 - Noni Madueke

12 - Filip Jorgensen

14 - Dario Essugo

15 - Nicolas Jackson

17 - Andrey Santos

18 - Christopher Nkunku

19 - Mamadou Sarr

22 - Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

23 - Trevoh Chalobah

24 - Reece James

25 - Moises Caicedo

27 - Malo Gusto

30 - Aaron Anselmino

32 - Tyrique George

34 - Josh Acheampong

38 - Marc Guiu

39 - Mike Penders

44 - Gaga Slonina

45 - Romeo Lavia


Players not included;

Petrovic,fofana,disasi,Felix,kendry paez,chilwell