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Bliztzer:
God fit don remove him hand from this matter. Person wey be hypocrite, come here dey hatred towards men but completely depend on the money men can offer.

Sheistoopretty


Sumone is greeting you

Botragelad

What are the boundless quantities

Botragelad


also stop ur itz like saying


itz more reasonable 2 ask 4 what i mean by the words i use

Botragelad



If u know d answer


Jus say it bro


What are d boundless quantities?





No need 4 baseless grama up and down

Botragelad:
I'm not dodging your questions; I'm simply illuminating your ignorance. And yes, my understanding is based on evidence and reason, not blind acceptance like your theistic beliefs.

You're correct that I accept one purpose for infinity, as a mathematical tool to describe boundless quantities or states beyond our current understanding. And yes, I rely on experts and evidence-based sources, unlike your reliance on dogma.

Your demand to ask "fellow experts or source experts" to define their use of infinity is pointless. It's like asking a mathematician to justify using addition because you don't understand its purpose. Infinity is a well-defined concept in mathematics, and its purpose is clear - to describe the boundless, not to serve your agenda.

Did ur experts prove my theism 2 you as well

Botragelad:
Still struggling to comprehend basic concepts?lol.

The boundary beyond our understanding refers to the limits of our current knowledge. It's not a physical boundary but a conceptual one, marking the edge of our understanding. And no, infinity wasn't "given" a purpose by some divine entity; it's a mathematical concept developed by humans to describe boundless quantities.

The question you asked about limited knowledge and infinity's purpose is based on a false assumption: that our understanding is static. As our knowledge evolves, so do our tools and concepts, like infinity. Its purpose isn't fixed or limited by our current understanding.

Your seem to conflate mathematical concepts with physical reality and divine purpose. Infinity is a tool, not a sacred relic. Its purpose is to describe the boundless, not to serve some higher power. Understand now?

Those humans are the who i asked about


And what are those boundless quantities being described?

Botragelad


You have no reason 4 dodging my questions



What u call an understanding is nothing but ur acceptance of what you cant force upon me


U accept just one purpose 4 infinity

which is using it 4 a non literal state




Or a state beyond ur current understanding


Dont u?



Ask ur fellow experts or ur source experts 2 define y they do such thing

Botragelad:
Well, I'd say our question is based on a false assumption: that I believe singularities "literally exist" in a physical sense. No, singularities are mathematical constructs, not physical entities. They represent a boundary beyond which our current understanding ceases to apply, not a literal state.

Your attempt to equate my use of infinity in mathematical contexts with a supposed failure to understand its implications is laughable. Infinity is a tool, not a physical reality. I don't "choose" to use it only in math; that's its purpose.

Coming from someone who can't grasp the basics of scientific inquiry. Singularities aren't "too hard" for me; they represent the limits of our current knowledge, not a personal failing.

The 1+1analogy is funny, but misguided. Your question isn't seeking clarification; it's a weak attempt to feign intellectual curiosity while obscuring your own lack of understanding.

What is the literal state?


Is it limited?

Botragelad:
Well, I'd say our question is based on a false assumption: that I believe singularities "literally exist" in a physical sense. No, singularities are mathematical constructs, not physical entities. They represent a boundary beyond which our current understanding ceases to apply, not a literal state.

Your attempt to equate my use of infinity in mathematical contexts with a supposed failure to understand its implications is laughable. Infinity is a tool, not a physical reality. I don't "choose" to use it only in math; that's its purpose.

Coming from someone who can't grasp the basics of scientific inquiry. Singularities aren't "too hard" for me; they represent the limits of our current knowledge, not a personal failing.

The 1+1analogy is funny, but misguided. Your question isn't seeking clarification; it's a weak attempt to feign intellectual curiosity while obscuring your own lack of understanding.

Define the boundary beyond ur understanding


What does it mean


And who gave infinity the purpose u talk about


Should our knowledge being limited as u say mean infinity must only av that purpose

Botragelad




And what does theism av 2 do with this?

kollinzgee:
Don't worry when the revolution starts we will find you make Kenya round up first.

exactly

u define revolution as killing 4 politicians



imagine

Botragelad:
Y assertion that existence must be infinite is based on your own limited definition, not mine. I merely pointed out that your understanding of infinity is flawed. You conflate mathematical concepts with physical reality, demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding.

New evidence can lead to refined understanding, but that doesn't mean the entire concept becomes "unscientific." It's like asking if new data on gravity means our understanding of gravity changes entirely – no, it just means our comprehension becomes more precise.

Lol. It's called scientific inquiry, observation, and experimentation, the very foundation of science. And when laws of physics "have changes," it doesn't mean everything within them changes; it means our understanding of those laws evolves.

Now, about singularities: they're not "made of something literally existing" in the sense you think. Singularities are mathematical constructs describing extreme states where our current understanding breaks down. They don't have a literal, physical existence; they represent a boundary beyond which our knowledge ceases to apply.

Lastly, "literally existing" means having a physical presence or reality, not a theoretical or mathematical representation. Your failure to grasp this distinction is the root of your confusion.

In ur mind

I dont get the distinction


Now answer dis one


U say singularities are 4 describing states where ur current understanding breaks down


If you are sure those STATES literally exist, y does ur current understanding break down?


U see


Issue is u choose 2 use infinity 4 non literal existence only

U choose 2 use it 4 math shit only

shud it be used as a math tool only where u describe states using singularities due 2 break down in ur current understanding despite being sure that the states literally exist?


u also call them extreme

as in 2 hard 4 you


shud ur understanding ever fail if itz an understanding truly?


what do you that keeps saying i dont grasp really grasp?


me asking what is 1 plus 1 doesnt mean i dont know itz 2


it means i want 2 know where itz taking us to


y does ur grasp fail when u get there?

av gotten there and come back

when i got there

i checked 4 ur break down


i discovered itz ur cup of tea

Botragelad:
The delightful ramblings of someone attempting to sound intellectual!

Your obsession with infinity is cute. You seem to think that because
infinity is "never-ending," it can't be applied to past or future cases. Well, physicists use mathematical concepts like infinity to describe singularities, not to imply a literal, eternal existence. It's a tool, not a philosophical crutch.

And oh, the irony! You accuse me of "limited knowledge" while displaying a breathtaking lack of understanding of basic physics. Physics is indeed self-adjusting, meaning your understanding evolves as new evidence emerges. But that doesn't mean the laws of physics themselves change; your comprehension of them does.

You then went ahead with the assertion that physics can't "break down" because it's self-adjusting, another straw man argument. When physicists say the laws of physics break down at a singularity, they mean our current understanding becomes inadequate, not that the universe itself ceases to function.

Grandiose declaration that "existence itself has to be infinite" is nothing but a hollow statement. Your limited definition of existence doesn't dictate the nature of reality. The universe is what it is, regardless of your attempts to impose your theistic worldview upon it.

Keep trying, though. Maybe someday you'll manage to coherently articulate a scientific concept without resorting to pompous ramblings.

Wheres theism in no universe?

Botragelad:
The delightful ramblings of someone attempting to sound intellectual!

Your obsession with infinity is cute. You seem to think that because infinity is "never-ending," it can't be applied to past or future cases. Well, physicists use mathematical concepts like infinity to describe singularities, not to imply a literal, eternal existence. It's a tool, not a philosophical crutch.

And oh, the irony! You accuse me of "limited knowledge" while displaying a breathtaking lack of understanding of basic physics. Physics is indeed self-adjusting, meaning your understanding evolves as new evidence emerges. But that doesn't mean the laws of physics themselves change; your comprehension of them does.

You then went ahead with the assertion that physics can't "break down" because it's self-adjusting, another straw man argument. When physicists say the laws of physics break down at a singularity, they mean our current understanding becomes inadequate, not that the universe itself ceases to function.

Grandiose declaration that "existence itself has to be infinite" is nothing but a hollow statement. Your limited definition of existence doesn't dictate the nature of reality. The universe is what it is, regardless of your attempts to impose your theistic worldview upon it.

Keep trying, though. Maybe someday you'll manage to coherently articulate a scientific concept without resorting to pompous ramblings.

What makes existence has 2 be infinite a limited definition?

U are the one that said break down means limited knowledge


U said new evidence


Then u speak of understanding evolving


Is new evidence same as new understanding?


Is it based on what is literally so or not?

What leads 2 new evidence?


What does it mean 4 laws 2 av changes?


Does it mean everything in them changes?


Are the singularities made of sumtin literally existing or not?


What does literally existing mean?

Botragelad:
Haha. Your attempt to discredit the concept of the universe by claiming it's a contradiction failed. The term "point" in physics refers to a mathematical concept, not a physical entity with size or dimension. It's a theoretical construct, not a literal "part" with finite boundaries.

The "zero volume" argument is equally flawed. The concept of zero volume doesn't mean "nothing"; it means a singularity where our current understanding of physics breaks down. It's not a logical contradiction, let's say a limitation of our knowledge.

Now, regarding those physical laws and empirical evidence. You seem to think that scientists arbitrarily decide what's acceptable based on "state law." No, scientific laws and evidence are based on rigorous testing, observation, and peer review. They're not dictated by some arbitrary authority, but rather by the consensus of experts in their fields.

And yes, human errors and contradictions are possible, but that's why science is a self-correcting process. New evidence and observations can refine or even overturn existing theories. That's the beauty of science - it's not dogma, but a continuous pursuit of knowledge.

So, dear creationist, try again. Maybe next time you can present a coherent argument that doesn't rely on wordplay and misunderstandings of basic scientific concepts.

again



infinity cant be sumtin that WAS OR will be



Scientific concept 2day can become unscientific concept 2moro

Botragelad:
Haha. Your attempt to discredit the concept of the universe by claiming it's a contradiction failed. The term "point" in physics refers to a mathematical concept, not a physical entity with size or dimension. It's a theoretical construct, not a literal "part" with finite boundaries.

The "zero volume" argument is equally flawed. The concept of zero volume doesn't mean "nothing"; it means a singularity where our current understanding of physics breaks down. It's not a logical contradiction, let's say a limitation of our knowledge.

Now, regarding those physical laws and empirical evidence. You seem to think that scientists arbitrarily decide what's acceptable based on "state law." No, scientific laws and evidence are based on rigorous testing, observation, and peer review. They're not dictated by some arbitrary authority, but rather by the consensus of experts in their fields.

And yes, human errors and contradictions are possible, but that's why science is a self-correcting process. New evidence and observations can refine or even overturn existing theories. That's the beauty of science - it's not dogma, but a continuous pursuit of knowledge.

So, dear creationist, try again. Maybe next time you can present a coherent argument that doesn't rely on wordplay and misunderstandings of basic scientific concepts.

what makes me a creationist

Botragelad:
Haha. Your attempt to discredit the concept of the universe by claiming it's a contradiction failed. The term "point" in physics refers to a mathematical concept, not a physical entity with size or dimension. It's a theoretical construct, not a literal "part" with finite boundaries.

The "zero volume" argument is equally flawed. The concept of zero volume doesn't mean "nothing"; it means a singularity where our current understanding of physics breaks down. It's not a logical contradiction, let's say a limitation of our knowledge.

Now, regarding those physical laws and empirical evidence. You seem to think that scientists arbitrarily decide what's acceptable based on "state law." No, scientific laws and evidence are based on rigorous testing, observation, and peer review. They're not dictated by some arbitrary authority, but rather by the consensus of experts in their fields.

And yes, human errors and contradictions are possible, but that's why science is a self-correcting process. New evidence and observations can refine or even overturn existing theories. That's the beauty of science - it's not dogma, but a continuous pursuit of knowledge.

So, dear creationist, try again. Maybe next time you can present a coherent argument that doesn't rely on wordplay and misunderstandings of basic scientific concepts.

U mean there was an instance of infinite density

U simply mean there was infinite density


But again THERE WAS

OR GOING BACKWARDS 2wards

infinity is like saying going backwards 2 no forwards


i mean infinity cant be a past or future case

cuz it means never ending

thatz not wordplay


as 4 laws of physics breaking down


u agree physics is self adjusting meaning it doesnt remain the same over time

then it means it has no permanent structure so it neva really BREAKS DOWN


letz rather say u/not me become unable 2 REARRANGE WORDS AGAIN




U av limited knowledge doesnt mean existence must be limited in definition

the universe means existence in ur limited definition

existence itself has 2 be infinite


and

u dont get permission 2 try ur expertise from yasef


u try it

ya

thatz y itz a thing 2 be repeated


expertise is the highest level of trying shit

EnemyofGod3:

You just speak so many grammar without answering my question, whether God is infinite or finite that's not the bone of contention.the question is where was God when he created heaven and earth ? The spirit of God must be somewhere before he created the heaven and earth.

The people who wrote the bible didn't know that the time go come when some critical question like this go come out.

Who go answer am now?


Shey google sabi am?


E don tey weh i reason am but e go still tire u 2 ask except u no get work


Or u no wan survive again?

Who wan pay u 2 reason am

Botragelad:
Let me elucidate. Neural constructs are generated by the brain's neural activity, a natural process governed by neuroscientific principles, devoid of any divine intervention. Now, acknowledging ideas as the initial stage of creation does not imply a divine origin. Human imagination and creativity are inherent abilities, not evidence of a primal idea or Logos.

You previously stated that the Big Bang theory traces back to an idea, but in fact, it leads to a singularity, a point of infinite density and zero volume, governed by physical laws. The cosmos evolved through natural processes. Quantum mechanics demonstrates that matter comprises energy vibrations, but this does not equate thoughts or ideas with physical reality. Thoughts are neural constructs, distinct from energy vibrations.

You then inquired about the origin of natural laws; simple, they are discovered through observation, experimentation, and evidence-based reasoning, etc without requiring a divine creator to explain their existence.
As I mentioned earlier, the concept of a primal idea or Logos is a philosophical construct, not empirical evidence. Human creativity and imagination are sufficient to explain the origin of ideas, without resorting to supernatural entities.

Theres no universe



Cuz u cant really explain the origin/definition



U speak of a point of infinite density


Contradiction


A point means that which is finite or that which has a size


A point represents a part


A part must be finite


Infinite means not as a point


U speak of zero volume


How can a volume of sumtin arise from a volume of zero/nothing?


As 4 physical laws/empirical evidence,


What makes sumtin acceptable or permissible by state law as physical law/empirical evidence 2day may not work 2moro.


State law determines what is allowed as physical law/empirical evidence after checks upon checks by those called scientists as often as possible.


Human errors/contradictions arent impossible in this case.

Wetin she call them

ttmax09:
Been resident pastor does not mean he his always right.

Na wetin make am human sha

ttmax09:
Where in the bible did Jesus rebuke someone cause of sin? Didn't the story of the harlot who was condemned to death teach you guys anything? You lot just read the bible in your own understanding. You had better cultivate a genuine relationship with the holy spirit, to understand the scriptures and drop religion aside. Should you or anybody need help on that, you can email me.

that man na resident pastor 4 here o


but na still human being sha

Sapasenator:
Calm down Victor, Obidients snatch ya girlfriend?

am going tru damn


dammm


this is beyond such questions


ok

Emmanuel909090:
It's obvious you are justifying your trade.

so



mind ya trade/biz

even tho me aint sex b4,what does d op wanna achiv with dis

Pastoshizzy:
Hell NO!

unnecesarry comparison



this thread is dumb

Abass07:
Good health is better than sex

is sex a sign of bad health

meaning

FalseProphet1:
I see you dying soon.

This I have seen.

I wont miss anything.


Both life and death make no sense 2 me.

No matter what happened ,what happens or what will happen, i will continue 2 blast obidients till i die.










I prefer 2 meet hushpuppi instead of their personal lord, savior and prophet peter jezus mohammed obi.





Thatz bcuz they keep celebrating the inability of both the apc and pdp 2 reduce/stop corruption in govt and its effects.


They celebrate all negatives such as accidents,disease,under employment,high cost of living,etc jus 2 make people bliv theyve got sumtin 2 prove in politics.



Theyve got nothing 2 prove but same old insults,curses,threats,mischief and insensitivity upheld by the politicians they claim 2 be better than.



Thatz bcuz they actually work with/for these politicians.




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