₦airaland Forum

Nachmonides:
To your first question, I don't think there's anything like separation of church and state in Nigeria because they were never together.

To your other questions, the reason is due to Section 38(1), muslims would argue that they are "manifesting" or "propagating" their religion, and they might win in the court of law.

Of course, in the court of law, it's not about what is right or wrong in the moral sense, there's only what the constitution says and your lawyer's ability to argue (in most cases it's actually an exploit) the matter. it’s about interpretation and argument based on the constitution and existing legal precedents.

Muslims in northern Nigeria could argue that implementing Sharia is a manifestation of their religion, protected under Section 38(1). However, others might counter that Section 10 prohibits any state religion, making government-backed Sharia courts unconstitutional.

In court, the strongest argument wins, often exploiting loopholes or ambiguities in the law. That’s why good lawyers don’t just read the law—they strategize around it.

I'm blessed .

Nachmonides:
While the Constitution says Nigeria is secular, legal loopholes, political will, and religious influence have allowed Sharia law to operate in a way that sometimes extends beyond just Muslims.

Nigeria operates a mixed legal system:

Common law (from British colonial rule).

Customary law (traditional practices).

Sharia law (in 12 northern states for Muslims).


The 1999 Constitution recognizes "Customary and Islamic Law" courts, allowing states to apply Sharia to those who consent.

Don't worry if you don't consent to it they can't force you. If they do, then we go back to the era of the crusades.

Like you are a good citizen .
Taking time to explain this is commendable .

You have enlightened me alot

Nachmonides:
Nigeria is officially a secular state according to its 1999 Constitution, meaning the government is not supposed to favor or adopt any religion. However, in practice, religion plays a significant role in governance and society.

Constitutional Provisions:

1. Section 10 of the Nigerian Constitution states:
“The Government of the Federation or of a State shall not adopt any religion as State Religion.”
This explicitly confirms that Nigeria is a secular state.


2. Section 38(1) guarantees freedom of religion:
“Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience, and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom (either alone or in community with others, and in public or in private) to manifest and propagate his religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice, and observance.”



Reality vs. Constitution:

Despite the constitutional secularism, Sharia law operates in 12 northern states, mainly for Muslims.

Government officials often openly express religious affiliations.

Public funds are sometimes used for religious activities like pilgrimages.


So, while Nigeria is legally a secular state, religious influences are deeply embedded in its political and social structure.

Then how come the North applies Sharia to its people and Sharia might even pass a judgement that could affect a non Muslim to a certain degree ?

Recently there have been heated discussions about having Sharia in South Western Nigeria .
And i felt the silence or responses of the government or its officials are ironic .

Is there anything like separation of church and state in Nigeria ?
If yes why does Nigeria has Sharia courts ?

Why is kano government providing aids to those who convert from Christianity to Islam ?

Why is the supreme council of Islam trying to establish Sharia legal system in southern Nigeria without the consent of the established government ?

How did northern Nigeria end up having Sharia if Nigeria is a secular state ?

Yesu kadai ne mai cheton' mu daga zunubi .

Yesu ne sarkin sarakuna

Na dawo

M here to stay

Gabrielshow24:
Sure.

Where do you suppose heaven is?
I just want to know your school of thought
If you don't mind to share

I'm a Christian who believes in the deity of Christ .
A Trinitarian , Pentecostal , believe in the rapture , believe that anyone who isn't born again is already lost (not going to hell but already belong there)

evangelical and apostolic.
very outspoken ;
A Conservative .

Believes in the supernatural ,esteem the natural , acknowledge scientific positions that agrees with the Bible .
And a good listener

Gabrielshow24:
Sure.

Where do you suppose heaven is?
I just want to know your school of thought
If you don't mind to share

I'm a Christian who believes in the deity of Christ .
A Trinitarian , Pentecostal , believe in the rapture , believe that anyone who isn't born again is already lost (not going to hell but already belong there)

evangelical and apostolic.
very outspoken ;
A Conservative .

Believes in the supernatural ,esteem the natural , acknowledge scientific positions that agrees with the Bible .
And a good listener .

Powerful

There's life beyond this world

If it was written about me in the book then I must find strength in what was written.
Jesus said not my will but yours ,but what you've written will be done.
his strength is in what was written .

It is written in the book that I lived long ,
Was Healed ,
Wealthy ,successful , powerful and triumphant.
The power to fulfill Destiny is to find strength in what was written .


I have come in the volume of the book ,
it was written about me to do your will ho God .

If it was written in the book then has been fulfilled spiritually ,and what's left is the physical manifestation of that which has been spiritually concluded.

The Bible said Jesus was already crucified before the foundation of the world
Meaning even before Christ was born he had already went to the cross in the spirit he had died and resurrected in the spirit ; meaning the matter has already been concluded in the heart of God to take place ,and what ever God has concluded in his heart is as good as done .

Jesus went to the cross on this strength
On the strength that I have been crucified and it is no longer I who lives but the father who lives in me .

Likewise it is written that we have been crucified with Christ it is no longer we who lives but Christ who lives in us .

Jesus fulfilled his destiny on the strength of what was written , because what was written is already done and should only come into physical manifestation when an action is taken on the premises of what was written .

As it was written so shall it be done.
In this Consciousness lies the strength to pass through any challenges to fulfill destiny because God is the determiner of the end .
And his thoughts towards you are not of evil but of Good to give you an expected end .

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross despise the shame and his now seated at the right and of God.

Great

It's kind of like you're talking off point

This is prophetic you know ?

felong:
Tongues. I really like it but I can't speak it. I want someone to teach me.

SPEAKING IN TONGUES CANT BE TAUGHT BECAUSE IT IS NOT AN ORGANISE LANGUAGE.
you are to speak as the spirit leads you.

i also once had an issue with my dad.
he broke my heart that i decided not to cry if i ever heard he died.
but when christ came into my life
i learnt to let go and i forgave my dad
because while i was yet a sinner christ died for me ;he died for us and forgave us freely.
and yet many of us are ungrateful for his sacrifice but still he never let go .

i learnt to forgive from christ .

it cost him all, but it will only cost us a little compared to what it cost
him.
when we forgive we lose our grudges but when christ forgave he lost his life.

So this is why donald trump will fail because his some of his policies will stand in the way of the globalist .
whereby his opponent kamala harris will do the biddings of the powers that be.
she is pro LGBTG (heterogenous gender)
pro immigrant(heterogeneous culture,language,religion and philosophy) .
she is black (will give up to the immigrants american dream)
she is a woman and pro abortion (will empower the feminist)
so harris will defeat donald because she is the right choice of the globalist.
political parties that are anti immigrant will fail and fade out gradualy just as it happened in the just concluded uk election.
the rwandan bill that sought to deport some set of peolpe to rwanda contributed to sunak's lost and the same will repeat itself in trump's case.

sooner or later europeans ,americans and asians will start migrating to africa just like africans are migrating to europe ,
and these guys will start holding political positions in africa ,will start representing africa, in sports eg. olympics and some africans will start clamouring for whites to join their politics and be elected as governors senators .and even president.
one day an immigrant withe european or american or asian will become the president of an african nation.
This is because
THE NEW WORLD ORDER CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVE THROUGH GLOBALISATION

The world is graduly heading towards globalisation,and the powers that be are making efforts make that a reality.
One of the strategies they are applying is to make every nation an heterogeneous society ;
A society that consist of people from diffrent nations
(especialy from diffrent continents),belonging to diffrent religion and culture migrating to another nation (in a continent other than their's) eg. Africans migrating to europe and europeans migrating to asia ,asians migrating to africa vice-versa and getting intergrated until they are fully assimilated to become indigenous people of those nations why retaining some of their former traditions,cultures and beliefs .
So the mass migration to europe from africa ,and asia was predestined to take place.
i am aware that some folks migrated because their nations were nonfunctional but yet this will take place wether africa or asia works or not this was meant to happen.
the western powers want immigrants to come in large numbers into their nations.

Western societies are gradual becoming heterogeneous on a large scale.

last time there was choas in france,turkey and recently the uk between the immigrants and the indigenous people but yet the gorverment of turkey and the uk chosed to scold the agreived prostesters because potentials immigrants needs to be given the assurance that their right is protected.
and the indigenous people are to be brought into the awareness that the new order of things is globalisation.
diffrent people with diffrent colour ,diffrent languages coming together to rebuild the tower of babel just the same way they left it.

people from asia,and africa etc are going to the uk,usa etcetra and are clitching political seats,building a careers and making a good name for themselves.
all of these are good but that signifies that the world is heading towards globalisation.

a time will come when westerners will start migrating to africa and other parts of the world.
african nations will start having white representatives

IF NOT FOR CHRISTIANITY some OF THOSE GUYS CLAMOURING FOR THE RETURN TO TRADITIONAL RELIGION MIGHT HAVE BEEN USED FOR ONE RITUAL OR ANOTHER.
that christianity didnt originate from africa doesnt make it a slavemasters religion.
christianity brought light to africa.

caye:
Bros, don't let the Roman Catholic tales of martyrdom kill you.

You might need to ask if those tales were " as true as that".

That's why I love and hate these fake Jews: they will act as Muslims outside but do their own worship secretly for over 100 yrs while they perceive they are small in numbers and not powerful enough and eventually take over your country.

Those Jews believe strongly in cunning and deceit, in order to achieve their agendas.
Same as the wicked French, English and Americans.

Only the blackman is stupid enough to drop his brain , and become a useless martyr.

May Olodumare bless his children with wisdom and cunning, and not be victims of propaganda by strangers.

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE CAREFUL

DonBenny77:
People that plant churches in the north though.
These people obviously don't need churches. Is it by force, why risk your life...

ARE THERE NO MOSQUES IN THE SOUTH?

ARE THERE NO CHRISTIANS IN THE NORTH.

I have read multiple times about the so-called islamic golden age but yet i couldnt famthom why it was dubbed "islamic" because i am yet discover any contribution that aimed out of islam into the effort and innovations of the scientists of that era.
infact it was the call to go back to pure islam that killed the age has historically documented.

Today, there are many apologist who go about arguing how scientific islam is but yet the muslim world has the least number of scientist in the world.
Including the least number of inventions.
for Science to develope there is a need for innovative thoughts and progresive ideas all of which are not allowed in islam.
no doubt some of the intellectuals of that age were muslims but what scientific invention of theirs can be said to have been inspired by islam ? or the quran or the hadith which are the manual that teaches the legal, intelectual ,cultural and spiritual system of islam ?
so what is islamic about the so-called "islamic golden age ?"

Yarda idanu ke bukatan haske kafun ta gani aka ne Zuchiya ko kuma "Rai" (mind) ke bukatan haske kafun tagani .
ikon gani na Rai ko zuchiya (MIND) ita che ikon ganewar ta .

duk wani rai (mind) mai rashin ganewa na akan ne sobada rashin haske (knowledge) .

mutane dayawa basuda haske (knowledge) mai ikon ganar da dan adam dangane da maganan ubangiji.
akan yasa mutane dayawa sukayi parnan rayukan su arbada achikin wutar ja'han'nama.

shin kwa baka chiki waddanda ke sanmanin sunada ilimi da ganewa da koyarwa ta addini mai sanar da dan adam masayin mai halittan sa ta geske amma kuma ba akan bane?

Shin alayen Ka na dan adam zasu iya shigar dakai aljanna ?
kokuma adalcin ka ko sadakoki ko taimako da ka yi wa wayansu za su iya shigar kai aljanna?

adduyoyi ko azami ko waso ireire ibadau da kayi zasu iya chaitan ka daga aza'ba ranar tashin kiyama?

ai mukanyi duk wadanan abubowan ne ichikan zunubai wadda ya sa bazasu iya gamsar da ubangiji chewa mun chanchanta da samin cheto ba .

an aifi dan adam achikin zunubi ne ,koma yakan rayu da zunubi ne.
shi yasa muke yin karya dan mu yawdare wayansu ko kuma dan mu kare kan mu daga masifa.

zunubi ne kai samu aikata alayen batsa, ita ke sa uba yayi wa yarsa piade ,ita ke sa shuwagabanni su yaudari mabiyin su.

shin akwai mara zunubi achikin mu yan adam ?

shin za'aiya samin koda mutum guda mara zunubi ,kuma mai tsarki awajan ubangiji?

amsar itace babu mai adalci irin wada zata gamsar da ubangiji achikin yan adam gaba daya.

ta wurin bada gaskiya gare yesu(isah) ka dai zamu ne zamu iya zama karpappu awurin ubangiji.

No doubt nairaland is a great forum that has given a good number of people the platform to express their faith, ideas ,opinion and thoughts .
but this same nairaland has been unfair and (nearly)unconsiderate about some issues regarding tribes and religion.
nairaland fuels tribalism alot.
nairaland pushes threads that are critical of christianity to the front page (almost) every sunday ;something that can hardly happen to the islamic section.

U dont need to swear and confess jesus as your savior befor commenting in the christian dominated religion section but you most confess Allah as god and muhammad his prophet befor commenting in the islamic section.
this is unfair to the christians and even other non christians.

i dont know if nairaland's mods enjoy seeing tribes tear themselves up or it just a strategy to gain traffick.
seun most see the need to modify this platform to one that unites people from one that tears them apart.

Musulumai da kristochi duk sun yarda addinin tasu ittace anyar samin cheto da kuma shigan aljanna.
to amma gudu daya daga chikin biyu che ke iya zama aka .

qurani ta che addini mai karbpu awajan allah itache islama ama islama bata korya da musulmai chewa babu shakka achikin al-amarin shegan aljanna tasu.

Kuma annabi
muhammadu bai bawa musulmai tabbatchin(assurance) chewa zasu shiga aljanna bayan mutuwan tasu.

amma kristochi na da tabbachin shigan aljanna soboda yesu da sukebi ya tabbata musu da akan.
Angitcheyi Yesu ,kuma yarasu ;ya kuma rayu bayan akan ya awra sama ta aljanna.
Ta'akan ne yesu yabawa kristochi tabbachin shigan aljanna .ama kuma annabi muhammadu dakansa yache "bai san kadara nsa game da akan sai ranan tashin kiyama,akan kuma nuna chewa musulmai mibinyansa suma basusan kadaransu ba.

To akan ta bayyana mana chewa anyar sami cheto itache kristanchi ba islama sobada kristanchi tabada tabbatchin aka wa mabiyin ta wadda musulunci bata bawa musulmai ba.

do you remember the story of the ten lepers who got healed on their way to go show themselves to the priest as commanded by jesus out of whom only one returned to give thanks to him?
what did jesus said to the man after doing that ?
he said arise go thy way.
the man recieved the perfection of his healing
and gained more.

someone once gifted me something but i wasnt greatful for it because i perceived the person he asked to give me that thing cheated me by not giving me the measure he suppose to give,
so i was unhappy and wouldnt appreciate because of what i thought the other person did.
but then i came to realize that it would be wrong not apreciate the giver because of what the other person did so i changed my mind and and confronted him with appreciations.
he was pleased that i thanked him even though i had not benefited from him more than the other person so he asked if i lack a certain thing and i said yes!
he then said that i should be given that thing in addition.

gratitude is profitable

paramakina202:
Americans won't vote for her.

DID NIGERIANS VOTE FOR JONATHAN THE FIRST TIME HE BECAME PRESIDENT ?