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Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 2:51am On Oct 08, 2020
Harshirama:
My advice to you is to make the house uncomfortable for whatever spirit she is possessed it. Do you have deep worship songs or messages you can play? Just play them through the day and in the night and see what will happen. Before anybody disturbs your peace, disturb theirs too.
Wow, I have had Don Moen on repeat since 10pm. And he is speaking peace to me.

Hide me now...
Under your wings...
Cover me within YOUR mighty hand....
When the oceans rise and thunders roar...
I'll soar with YOU above the storm...
FATHER YOU are KING over the flood...
I will be still and know YOU are GOD...

Find rest my soul
In CHRIST alone.
Know his power
In quietness and trust...
When the oceans rise and thunders roar...
I'll soar with YOU above the storm...
FATHER YOU are KING over the flood...
I will be still and know YOU are GOD...
I AM THE LORD...
that healeth thee...



I have taken it upon myself that anytime she comes to speak to me,
I will lift the conversation into GOD's hand.
I say a prayer to her hearing.
And then listen to what she has to say.

The last time I did this again she replied in annoyance, "you are the one that know if you are possessed".

I responded that I had a right to commit my conversations into GOD's hand and I am not tiring out anytime soon because GOD is my strength.

She became so calm.

This is 2:45am and she is sleeping soundly.

I am going to play the messages through out today.
Thanks.


But she is about to travel...
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 2:36am On Oct 08, 2020
Harshirama:
Recognizing spirits is a gift of the spirit known as discerning of spirits. Sometimes evil spirits manifest as a foul odour or just a bad feeling. One of the best ways to deal with witches and demon possessed people is to know your authority in Christ first. I heard a story from a man of God recently. It was about a man who was lured by a girl to a strange church and started acting strange since then. The pastor prayed and saw a vision, in the vision, he could see demons gathering round the man and influencing him, making him aggressive and behave strangely. In that case, he couldn't rebuke the demons unless the man wanted to be delivered. So he decided to visit the man, the moment he stepped into his house, the man became angry all of a sudden and was getting defensive. That was where wisdom came in. The pastor asked the man to get him a drink outside and the man left to get it. Once he stepped outside, the pastor commanded the demons to not enter the house with the man once he comes back. Miraculously, the man got the drink, came back and was strangely calm. The pastor was then able to preach and advice the man and he got delivered shortly after.
Noted. Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
I think the spirit of witchcraft operates from 12am-7am

I say this because she came to meet me yesterday and said that I should be prepaid, 12am-7.

I didn't keep silent, I stood on the name of JESUS and nullified it.
I put a stop to her 2:30am monitoring of my sleep, and a stop to her other times of monitoring of my sleep or any aspect of my life in JESUS name, amen.
I see the end of all these in JESUS name, amen.

If GOD lays anything in your heart, kindly share.
Thanks
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
Good day CharlyG1

I had an experience today.
I went to buy something at the market place.
And I got chit chatty with the guy.
He was slicing vegetables for me, and started complaining that the knife was blunt.
They gave him another one.
After about 3 to 4 slices, he started complaining again that the knife was blunt.
There was a delay.

So I told him that I was going to come there and start a knife sharpening business.
The market is filled with vegetables sellers.
He laughed. I laughed too and turned my head and saw a woman a little far off watching us, me, attentively.
And there were other women around her all chatting away.
She seemed oblivious of them.
I wondered not so much why, because from that distance there is no way she could hear the what the guy and I were chatting about.
But she wasn't to far away.
She was fully focused on me.
The guy asked me if I knew how much I'd be making?
I asked how much and he said it is N100 to sharpen 3 knives.
I let him know that that was good business.

I buy vegetables there more times than anywhere else.
In fact when I was going to the market,
I had told myself that I will look around first at other vegetables shops before I go there
But as soon as I got to the market, I changed my mind and went there straight.
I don't think I I have met the guy before although it seemed like I had.
The only guy I had met there before was a little fair in complexion while this one is darker.

He asked how I wanted it sliced and I told him my preference.
The guy did it so well that I commended him.
He said the reason was because he wants me to always buy from them.
I let him know that that was not a problem and I asked him if he owned the business.
He replied that it was his Mom.
I was surprised that the woman I always met there was him Mum. He was a young adult and the woman looked like a young mother.
I turned and looked again at the direction of the woman. I caught her. That look.
She quickly turned away and pretended she was talking to her colleague but she turned to look again, thinking I had looked away.
I was bothered. What was she so interested in seeing she can't hear us?

I gave him money.
He gave her.
She gave it back to him
'And they began to look for “change".
Another wait period...
So I told him that this is another good business, that all that needs to be done is to go to the bank, pack all the lower denominations and offer it to people in the market who were in need of "change".
Then I asked him, how much can be charged for such a service, he said N100 and started laughing. This made me laugh and turn again, she was looking. So rapt!!!

The guy began to study me and asked my tribe.
I responded to him that when someone has GOD, irrespective of the tribe, the person will have loads of sense.
He began to smile non stop.

So I left.
I passed by the woman.
And she said thank you, like twice, which I found suspicious.

The look bothered me.
And it wasn't until I got home that it all hit me.
Of course I knew the look!
I lived with someone so many years, who whether she was looking at me or not, had the look. The woman I have been talking about on this thread.

Then GOD dropped it in my spirit that there was something for me to do.
I thought HE meant the woman.
But HE made me understand that HE meant the guy.

I was wondering how to go about it and asked HIM.
The understanding I got is that I should go preach to him.

And now, I just read where Oyeludef adviced dazzel101 that she can intercede for her neighbor when she once asked for help and he showed her how to go about it.

My question is I think I can recognise witchcraft in someone and today was my first experience.

What does is your advice concerning this?
What does GOD want me to do with this?
I have asked HIM and I know HE will respond.

Kindly share similar experiences and what you did.
Cc: CharlyG1, superior1, Harshirama, Michaelangelo10, analice107, oyeludef
Please I am till getting used to the names thanks.

kindly contribute, thank you.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 8:06pm On Oct 07, 2020
CharlyG1:
@Holpen

You asked about the dangers of sleeping on the same bed with a witch in one of your post, and you talked about your blessings being stolen.

I'll tell you what I know from experience, and spiritual trainings from the Lord.


When there is the slightest opportunity to do evil, a witch will make use of that opportunity. When no one is looking is always the best time for a bad person to do evil. And when men/women sleep the enemy uses witches and demons to carry out evil against them (Matthew 13:25-30)


I once slept on the same bed with a family friend. We attended the same boarding school and I was senior to him. I don't know how his mom and mine became best of friends, but they became so close that their family would come to spend some holidays with us at certain times.


On this particular night (in the early morning hrs), I was having a beautiful dream.. It was like I was visited by God in that dream. I was smiling in that dream and coming out of the dream state (still smiling), then i saw myself grasping a beautiful golden object in my right hand. It was glowing. I knew i was waking up and my eyes were partially opened, but i could physically see this gold object in my palm. It was like I was in-between a physical & spiritual dimension at the same time.


Just as i was coming to full consciousness, the boy sleeping close to me grabbed the gold object in my hand and quickly turned to the other side.
I quickly got up in anger, tapped him. He pretended to be asleep. I shook him until he answered me. I asked him why he shook my hand. He looked at me but did not respond. I was very angry and asked him IF he shook my hand. He admitted that he shook my hand but he never budged to tell me why no matter how many times i asked him. I was furious and i knew nothing i did would make him talk.


On another night, as I slept, i was in a dream state when i felt a sudden vibration, like a powerful current flow surge up within me, I got up (unconsciously) and hit this boy that lay beside me. As I hit him, I said "I've got it"! I never knew why I said that.

Unknown to me, my Dad was in the room, watching. He saw everything. He called me into his room and told me that the boy was never asleep and he had placed his hand on me. He told me he suspected the boy of witchcraft. The good thing was that my parents and I had realized that the boy had spiritual problems, and he was actually into witchcraft. But we just didn't know how to tell his parents.
After summoning courage, my mom told his mom. And to our surprise, she said they already knew. And that they had been trying to get him deliverance at all cost. This happened about 18 years ago.

From this story, I'm sure you can understand the dangers of sleeping with a witch/wizard on the same bed.
1. They'll try to transfer demons or put something evil (evil seeds) inside the person.

2. Sometimes we wake up from sleep, unknow to us that we just realized a new blessing. The physical eyes don't see those blessings but a witch/wizard will, because they carry demons inside of them. And so they can steal that blessing.

3. They can also project demonic dreams to a person while they sleep.

So that's it. Stealing, Sowing evil & Demonic dream projections. This is the work of demons being carried out through witches & wizards.


The Lord later revealed to me, that i had regained my lost blessing on that night when the boy placed His hand on me. The Vibration i felt was actually the resistance from the Holy Ghost that prompted me to get up and hit him. "I've got it" meant I had taken back what was stolen from me. His attempted witchcraft had backfired.
Since that day, the boy had a certain fear of me, that he couldn't hide. Their family became very poor and his dad died after few years.


Though there was a demonic foundation from the father's house, the boy was being used to carry out wickedness against his own family. His parents told us many things, but i always doubted they did their best in helping him.


This is just one experience, there are others I will share later on.

God bless you.
Wow, thanks for sharing.
I can't wait to hear the stories you have to share.
They are all very inspiring.

I know there are some things you must have taught already on this thread. So I am reading.

Thank you very much

The GOD never tires.
You strength is new every day because GOD is your strength.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
Harshirama:
I really can't give a definite answer. But I'll suggest you to keep preaching the gospel to her. The gospel contains power in itself. The key is to make sure you're the one doing the talking. Don't let her manipulate you.
Thank you so much for this tip.
Your suggestion is in line with what GOD says I must do.
GOD bless you.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 3:11pm On Oct 07, 2020
CharlyG1 please if you have not taught on these,
Witchcraft and
Influence
Manipulation
Oppression
And possession

Kindly share please. Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
Good day CharlyG1 and everyone,
I finally asked her just now and followed harshirama's steps.

Me: In Jesus name, devil be quiet, don't speak in Jesus name. Please I have a question to ask you.
Would you like to give your life to Jesus, because Jesus can set you free, but first HE needs to come into your life and save you and He will send every other foreign being out.

She: why are you asking, what is the reason?

Me: because I want you to be saved

She: Right now, you are a stranger to me. You just get up and come ask me questions, have you not been going to Church.. (then she started asking me questions). I cut her short.

Me: it doesn't really matter whether I am a stranger or not, it doesn't change the fact that JESUS CHRIST came and died and rose again and HE can set you free. At the mention of the name of JESUS, every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that HE is LORD.

She: she increased the music she was listening to.


At some point, I really felt the power of GOD going out through my words to her. She seemed like she was listening.

*I didn't lead her through the sinners prayer because she had increased her music and I was done with what I am saying.

CharlyG1, harshirama, do you know why she keeps asking me why I am asking?
Is it purely physical question?
After she confessed then, later on, she kept saying, "you heard something and you didn't even bother to ask about it.
Why does she want me to still ask her or question her about it??


Is there any reason for this?

I told you that she confessed in the month of May, but before that month, I didn't know anything. I related to her purely on a physical level. And we were not even having conversations. I limited my interactions with her because I found that I had more peace of mind that way.

In March, you will not believe this woman called my siblings and said I called her a witch.
I was so shocked.
We were not even speaking to each other.
And witchcraft is a word, prior to that month of March, did not even exist in my dictionary.

It was false accusation and I made it clear to every one that I will not be party to it.

Then she confessed in May.
Since then, I have not bothered to tell anyone about it.

I guess her strategy worked?
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 3:56am On Oct 07, 2020
Some other things I have noticed.

She copies me a lot.
Why does she do that?
Even to inner clothings.
And what I have noticed in her case is as soon as she starts to copy me, I start to loose interest in that thing. But that was before May.

A girl I known does same thing to me
She would not make up, until I arrive, and she would use the exact lipstick color I use. Every blessed day.she copies my shades of lipstick, my mannerisms, everything. And not in a way that feels good.
I had to ask the girl what she was up to, o asked her why she copies my exact lipstick shades, everyday and she said, "nothing".
And I told her that it is all well and good if it is nothing

I just know that there is more to it.


I haven't asked her if she wants to give her life to Christ because of what happened around 3am yesterday. Sincerely I think it was a spiritual war even though I was experiencing it physically.
I stood on God's Word and overcame.
GOD's will lead me.

She never stops, always coming to check especially around 2:30am if I am asleep.

I have already overcome, through the death and resurrection of JESUS CHRIST on the cross of calvary.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 3:33am On Oct 07, 2020
madprophet:
My oga

I would say what am not sent to say.
This statement, I don't really understand it.
Is it JESUS who says you should not say it?
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 6:09am On Oct 06, 2020
Michaelangelo10:
I guess, it is high time you get some books on spiritual warfare, particularly about Satanism and witchcraft from the lense of Christianity view. Hence, I prescribe that you read all Rebecca's brown books from the first to the last... You can download them on the net.
Hm, you took me years back,
You would not believe that I once read, HE came to set the captives free" and thoroughly enjoyed it. I was so excited and told her that I had read it.
She was so calm, like someone who is ill, and gently said that I should not read those kind of books. I was a little taken aback and asked her why, she gently shook her head. That was the end.
The second book of Rebecca that I was already set on reading, I never read again till today.
I trusted her so much.

I will read them all.
GOD bless you immensely.

Someone mentioned on this thread that witchcraft operates by,
Influence
Manipulation
Oppression
And possession

I see it clearly now
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
Friso:
ASK THE QUESTIONS HERE, SO THAT WE CAN ALL LEARN.

As a formal catholic who has been to a minor seminary, with the hope of becoming a reverend father. What Charles is saying here is correct, there are many doctrine in the church, that are against the bible like
1. Praying to saint Michael the arch angel to protect them, we as Christian are not to pray to Angels but to Jesus alone deserve our prayers.
2. Bowing before images, they call it mere honor, the first commandment explain this explicitly.
3. Prayer to Mary, our God is a jealous God, he does not share his glory.
4. The pope is called infallable, which means he does not make mistakes, he is representative of Jesus on earth, you know this is untrue.
5. The canonisation of saints, how can your makes people saints by just mere signs. Catholics pray to the saints, to help them pray to God.
6. Many more coming.
Thank you very much.
I think the congregation is not aware.
They are blinded by their love.

They ought to be driven by paternal love for JESUS, but they have directed that love that is rightfully His to a maternal love for her.
Whereas she has said, whatsoever He tells you, do it. She directed them to Him. On the last day, those who refuse repentance may explain which of the Mary they were worshipping.

Scripture describes GOD as the only one who hears prayers. No other being.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 5:48am On Oct 06, 2020
Please is Analice107/ Anas09 fine?
Sis GOD strengthen and refresh you and keep you from the evil one.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 5:46am On Oct 06, 2020
Harshirama:
I read your story and I have few things to say.
First, it'll be hard to deliver someone who doesn't want to be delivered. But still, you have to exercise your authority in Christ. You can sit in front of her and command the demons to shut up in Jesus name and ask if she wants to be delivered. If she wants to be delivered, you can cast the demons out. Then ask her to keep saying "Jesus is Lord" People speaking under the influence of a demon will usually refuse to say this.
GOD bless you immensely Sis.

I'm just wondering why does she say the sinners prayer when someone is preaching on tv?
Why did she follow me to Church?
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 5:42am On Oct 06, 2020
CharlyG1:
You're welcome.
God bless you too.

I read what Friso said. Feel free to direct the questions here for the sake of others that want to learn these things.

You can also direct questions that are very personal to me via email.

Cheers.
Thank you very much.

Pease what is the connection between trance and witchcraft?
The truth is I don't even know the dictionary definition of the word, but of course I can Google it.

But the reason I ask is, before May, (please every time you see that I write "before May", I am letting you know that I was totally seeing everything only physically),

She recorded a song on her phone that I didn't understand for a long time then.
But I finally was able to pick out the words of the song, it goes
"Trance, oh trance...it happened, as if it did not happen.."
She was playing this song again and again then...

After the month of May, I began to notice strange stuffs that may actually have been happening all these years.

What is trance by your understanding in relation to witchcraft?
Can I be called into a trance by her?
If yes, what are the implications?
If yes, what is it about me that gives her that access?

What I notice is that sometimes she calls my name to ask me questions, in a situation that is so clear that she did not need to call my name before asking the question.

O think at those times is when the trance happens.
What I do now, is that I don't respond to such name calls.
I tell her to tell me what she has to say without mentioning my name unnecessarily.
But if it so happens that I respond, i make sure to make very positive declarations in the name of Jesus while the discussion, or more appropriately, argument is on.

So, after she calls my name, and I make sure to keep declaring The Word of God as long as I feel I need to, I notice that something good happens to me afterwards.

So my conclusion was, she sees when God's blessings are coming, and she tries to steal from me.
But when I make declarations of GOD's word, then I win in the spirit and then go ahead to win physically.
Sorry, I am not so clear but it is what I have been observing.
And she never stops, she always asks irrelevant questions, especially ones that can give her "no" answers. For example, she could ask if I have spoken to a cousin that I am not even close to. Or if I am going outside, she would ask if I am going to get to the market. Very irrelevant questions. To get me to say, "no".
I don't know what it means but I know strongly not to give in.
Please what does this mean?


Also when she says anything I don't like, or agree with or I feel strange about, I counter it immediately especially with The Wors of God. I always use the Word of God. Most of the time.
When I do, I later realise that it is like I won some victory in the spirit. I just know it.

Let me see if I can expansiate,
Some years ago when I started work, I saved some tangible money.

One day, I was sitting on my own, and I heard her say "money that would soon finish",
Then, I used to feel they were just more idle talk.

But this money actually got finished. Looking back.
The only thing tangible I can remember buying is dresses. Of course I bought other stuff but the only one that remains to this day is about 10 dresses. I collected this money I had saved so hard for in December, and by Jan 31st I was out of cash!

Although, I blamed it on the fact that before I had received the money, I had told myself I was going to go on a spending spree.

Fast forward to after May this year, I received a sizable amount of money. I invested it properly, but the remaining sizable amount, I just wanted to leave it in my account.

But I noticed I was spending so much money on eating for pleasure. Before you know it, I have spent N10k in a day or two and in about 3 or 4 days I have spent 30k! The money was not that much. And I was just spending it.
I kept telling myself that I needed to watch it.

So one day, I bought cashew nuts, groundnut, almonds, (very expensive stuff) etc and I was sitting and eating them as I was very hungry, this woman walked past and said, "yes, it is your money eat",
it was like scales fell off my eyes.
I refused the statement!

And since that day, that weird craving to hust spend anyhow on food disappeared.

So, I feel at that instance when she speaks like that, if I declare the Word right there and there in response to her, I win physically afterwards.
Could that be trance. When she speaks like that?


Please CharlyG1, I am sure you know exactly what I am saying. I would be very glad of you throw more light on it.
Thank you very much.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 9:01am On Oct 05, 2020
CharlyG1:
Hello Holpen,

At this point, I don't wish to talk deep about the Catholic. I know you want to learn, so I'll talk about this briefly.


The Catholic pray to Mary. This alone is an abomination, as Jesus Christ told us that no one can come to the Father except through Him.. (John 14:6). This is one reason why we always say "in the Name of Jesus", at the begining & ending of our prayers.


There are many other abominations done in the Catholic church which I really don't want to go into right now. But the so called "Mary" is a reference to a false goddess (Isis) worshipped as the mother/consort of a sun god (satan).


Almost all the teachings and rites of the Catholic are new age practices which they adopted from pagan religions and disguised into the teachings of the Bible. There are too many occult symbolisms in the Catholic, like the ankh cross and many other abominations that are extremely shocking.


Many people who are in the Catholic do not know these things and though they fall into the sin of idolatry, they do it UNCONSCIOUSLY.


So yes, they might acquire a curse upon themselves, that can be broken when they come under repentance and realization of this sin(s).


It does not mean they're into witchcraft (witches/wizards), though it is a sin (a practice) of witchcraft. It is idolatry and because it is unconscious and done out of ignorance, there might be no transference of demons into them.


But when done with the knowledge that it is evil, it becomes OCCULTIC and carries a heavy WITCHCRAFT tag, and it will definitely draw in demons into the idolater like you see among the so called popes and many others.
Thank you very much.
I understand you.

I have so many questions.
I will direct them to you by email.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 6:44am On Oct 05, 2020
Amatarasha:
U didn't disappoint ,that's y I came clean
In JESUS name, you shall not speak to me by a demon again.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
madprophet:
Chairman,

Well, while I was responding to you I just began to see the rosary, that is why I asked.

Well, you need to stay close to God.

Your people are deep in witchcraft.
Thank you very much.
Kindly expansiate please.

When you say my people are deep in witchcraft, what do you mean please?

I have written stuffs on this thread, you can say anything to me.

If you don't mind, can you also share the connection between rosary and witchcraft or what connections you feel?

I ask because I want to learn.
GOD is using this thread to set people free by the knowledge shared here


Thank you very much Sir.

CharlyG1 please can you also expansiate on it?
Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 6:11am On Oct 05, 2020
Amatarasha:
I daughter of earth says your mother is not a witch, but was programmed mistakenly by her hidden sorrows , u need to deprogramme her ASAP( I can teach how 2 do that) , listening to CharlyGi won't help u demons are indelible 2 fools ( prayer warriors)



, your mother is the only god/goddess in your life protect her B4 ignorance spoils things n they blame you for lack of fasting n abrahamic faith ,
I rebuke you devil in JESUS name!
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 4:39pm On Oct 04, 2020
madprophet:
Bros...

It's cos she know her time is almost up she is doing all this.

Take her for deliverance and be prayerful so she doesn't hand over her post to another person in your house.

You are scared.. But don't worry you would be fine.. The lord is fighting for you already.

Take her to any mfm region. If you are in Lagos.. MFM Prayer City should suffice.

But I feel you guys are from the east,

Do you have a catholic background??
Please can you expansiate on what you mean by, she knows her time is up?

The reason I ask, is because I strongly feel that she feels she is going to die.

But what I have been sensing and from the things she says is that she may have submitted my name years ago to die, perhaps in her place?
Do they do this, can they extend their lives by the life of another?

If what I sense is true, then I really pity her soul.
I shall not die.
If she submitted my name for death, then she has made every grave mistake.

Why I say this is because sometime last week or two, she just started talking and said, "you are not serious, who do you want to answer your name for you?"

I refused to be quiet and responded, "who ever mentions my name for evil will answer it in Jesus name"
She was a kind of shocked.

But, as I type, I look at her, I fee so sorry for her. I think she wants out.

She mentioned something about someone saying that, she can never leave.

I was in the sitting room, I heard what a movie she was watching was saying,
In the movie, a lady was trying to escape but everywhere she turned, a voice in the background would, "I said, you can never leave, I told you you can never leave"

I was almost getting up to tell her that that was the lie of the devil, it seemed like the devil was speaking through the movie.
But at that point, she switched the movie off and has never watched a movie since then until I bought her some Christian movie.

I think she wants to leave but the devil keeps lying to her.

I will wait till she is herself again, and go to her with the gospel and lead her to Christ.
I will depend on God for this.

But it feels like time is running out
CharlyG1
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 4:12pm On Oct 04, 2020
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Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 4:10pm On Oct 04, 2020
JourneytoEL:
no human being can save a witch, only the Holy Spirit can convict her. It is either you pray for the Holy Spirit to arrest her heavily or you save yourself the stress and change location. You can't deliver someone who doesn't want it.
Okay thanks.

But how can I tell if she wants deliverance or not?
I heard all CharlyG1 said, I will wait till she is back to herself and speak to her about it all and Christ Jesus, amd see what she feels about it.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 4:07pm On Oct 04, 2020
madprophet:
Bros...

It's cos she know her time is almost up she is doing all this.

Take her for deliverance and be prayerful so she doesn't hand over her post to another person in your house.

You are scared.. But don't worry you would be fine.. The lord is fighting for you already.

Take her to any mfm region. If you are in Lagos.. MFM Prayer City should suffice.

But I feel you guys are from the east,

Do you have a catholic background??
Yes, we have a catholic background but I left many years ago as a kid when I gave my life to Christ.

Please, why do you say so?
Is there a link?
Thanks
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 3:54pm On Oct 04, 2020
CharlyG1:
A person who is a CONSCIOUS witch/wizard is that person who knows that they serve Satan, doing his bidding of witchcraft and enjoying it. They have their conscience seared. They are conscious of their out of body experience (like when they go for midnight meetings).

They are conscious of when they attack people, even their own family members. They are full of jealousy, anger and bitterness.
These are the people that KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.


The UNCONSCIOUS witch is the one who doesn't yet know they're involved in witchcraft. They were initiated into it, but cannot recount their spiritual experiences. God will show them dreams to awaken their consciousness to the fact that they are somehow tied to Witchcraft.


They may exhibit traits of Witchcraft like "great sexual arousals", "sleeping with men(or a man) in dreams", "seeing themselves crossing a river in dreams", "seeing themselves flying in the dream or in a meeting of unknown people" etc.


Note: This is linked (but slightly different) with those who have a spiritual problem. Those with spiritual problems might have dreams of sleeping with a strange man/woman, but they are not initated into Witchcraft. They just have curses/yokes on them that need to be broken.


It is easier to pray deliverance for the UNCONSCIOUS one than for the conscious one, because the former would have a repentant heart unlike the latter (the conscious one).

But at some stage in life, the unconscious witch will become conscious of it.

You can ask her if she would like to be prayed for (Deliverance). Get her response. Ask her if she knows she's in the bondage of witchcraft. Get her response.

Or just contact me. I already replied your mail.

God bless you.
Thank you so much Sir.
I will follow these directions.
I haven't seen the mail yet.

Since she confessed, she has been saying stuffs like, "you heard something and you did not even bother to ask questions?".
As usual, she doesn't say these things directly to me.

I felt she was trying to get me into trap.

Since she confessed I have taken a standninnmy authority in CHRIST but that was in September this year after I read this thread and saw the dream analice had.
The dream where she descended on the leader of a group and was going to tear him/her into two at the mouth by holding the person's upper and lower jaw.

When I read that story, it was like a scale fell of my eyes.
Since she confessed in May, we have had an unusual gathering of birds on our street. Both on the afternoon and night.

But at night, as from 12am, they are screeching and flying and screaming all over the place
I pray but for God's guidance.
I know I can't be hurt.
Even the school she confessed about, I graduated in a victorious way. I know in all things I am more than an overcome.

But when I read that dream of analice, I remembered when I was that violent.

I wept.
And I got angry.
And I got into prayer that hot afternoon.
I didn't to care who heard me or not.
I started casting, binding and destroying.
By the Word of God, I permitted no bird to fly over my roof, because I realised I didn't want it.

The Holy Spirit had asked me what I wanted, and I said, they needed to stop, and He urged me and I gave the decree.

You would not believe from that that night till now, from 12am till 6am, silence. No bird.
I hear a bird but once in a while, and very far away.
It used to be a multitude and this all started after the confession.


Please why do you say I should not sleep near her, is it to avoid transfer of demons or to avoid oppression etc?

She seems to know when I am on this thread.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
CharlyG1:
You mentioned she confessed. Has she really confessed the sins of witchcraft and has she been led to Christ? Please let me know.

When she's herself, speak to her about Jesus Christ. Lead her to Him. Talk to her and see if she is repentant or feels guilt. Don't worry and don't be afraid.

It is important that healing takes place from within first, so that repentance comes genuinely. Then when the demons are sent away, their attacks against her won't prevail.
No, far from it.
I am.not afraid.
I will try and speak to her.

I have been preaching to her.
Sometimes she seems like she is desirous of it.
She has followed me to Church once.

When I was playing a tape where our Pastor was preaching and he was leading people to Christ, I heard her say the prayers in her room.

But that was like a year or two ago.

She confessed but I didn't know anything then.
I merely listened to her confession to witchcraft and didn't know that that was the point to lead her to CHRIST.

So if you ask me, as far as I am concerned, I didn't lead her to CHRIST

Typing...

T6je very day she confessed, she kept saying stuff like like, "just tell me, you are healed, you are saved you are delivered“, but she wasn't speaking to me directly. And I didn't because I wasn't sure if that was what I was supposed to do.
She said that for days.
And stopped.
Maybe that was when the demons came back.

She didn't accept Christ that day, I didn't pray, or even say a word to her

When some confesses witchcraft, is it because they want to repent?
I felt she confessed because prayers made her do it.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
CharlyG1:
These are signs of demonic infestations. And most of the voices are actually demons speaking. They know very well of your plan to take her for deliverance. And they might try to attack you, so pray and don't sleep close to her.

The case of 20 husbands as a reference to her initiation by sleeping with 20men might not exactly be so. A person can sleep with just 3 men and can have 20 demons who will claim to be their husbands. And there are other ways demons can come in as "husbands" even without a physical sexual intercourse.

Don't be afraid. Your mom does need deliverance.

Is she mentally unstable from what you deduce?
I don't doubt you at all, she is demonically infested.

She has been mentally unstable for years now.
We put her on medications.
I thought it was because she was disappointed about the outcome of her marriage so much that she became depressed.
The doctors called it depression.
Everything is all well and good when she takes it consistently. She is her usual gentle and kind self.
Sometimes she takes it, but most of the time she refuses to take them.
When she doesn't take them, it is the demons fully in charge. I now know that for a fact.
I used to get into arguments with her when she is in that state, until sometime last year, when I reduced my arguments with her when she is in that state.
But this year, especially this May, I went totally quiet on her during those moments.

And that was when the confession came but that is not the whole of the story.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
CharlyG1
Is is possible for demonic people to hear ones thought?
My understanding is this is not possible.

Please I await your response.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 11:36pm On Oct 03, 2020
CharlyG1
Please you need to speak more on witchcraft.
Can you expansiate on what you mean by, know that this person is CONSCIOUSLY in witchcraft?
Please I need to know. Please.

The thing is you are right.

Many years ago, she told me, not so directly, that there are people who are okay with where they are and that I should let them be.
I never understood.
For almost as long a s I can remember, she keeps screaming that two cannot work together unless they be agreed.
She keeps saying, is it by force. Let those that want to serve God, serve God and let those who do not want anything to do with Church be left alone.
I never understood.

Please kindly expansiate.
Why do you emphasize consciously, it is in a different way from say other occults?

If she is consciously in it, what do I do?
Do I truly stop bothering about her soul like she sometimes says.

Kindly know that she also called for help sometimes too.

Please I sent you a mail request.
Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 11:27pm On Oct 03, 2020
CharlyG1
Please she needs deliverance.
Someone who has Christ that can respond deeply to her. I feel that if she realises that you understand exactly where she has been and the magnitude, she may be willing to go for deliverance.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen:
iluvMAMAV:
I like how cautious you are about your mum!
I now know what Jesus meant when He said, love casted out fear“.

She is somewhere underneath the devil speaking.
Every bound human soul desires freedom.
And they see the light in God's children and hope we can help. But the devil seems to speak out violence and threats through their bodies that may make us an ignorant person turn away.
This what happened to Analice and the native doctor. She was not moved by what he was and he was saved.

She seems scared of dying.

The devil does not have her soul yet.
I know but she confirmed by what she said one day, I heard her saying talking, "you want to have my soul?"
At other times, she says to herself, “have they not told you to stop doing evil?

There was a time she got so committed to reading her Bible' and it really helped. But she stopped.
I encouraged her to continue.
She did last week or 2 but seems to have stopped again.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 11:05pm On Oct 03, 2020
During the confession, she mentioned something about 25 years.

So I reasoned that that must have been when she dabbled into whatever it is she dabbled into.
I calculated 25 years back and I think I recollect a strange incidence.

She had taken us out to eat.
As we sat, she started looking at me non stop, for almost 5 mins.

And then, she started asking me what was wrong.
Can you imagine?
It was after I read this thread that I saw the pattern that I had always known existed. Bit i was never bothered.
They always accuse.

And she confessed it.
She said something like, only you will do wickedness, only you will still accuse. Tormentor."

I learned to realise when she is speaking of her self.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Holpen: 10:54pm On Oct 03, 2020
Davoneskay:
Wow! She's your mom. I know, certainly.
The greatest shocker of my life.
I will type it all.

I have always seen my family as cute.
But I have concerns now that I might just be alone.

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