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parisbookaddict:
A lot of what tartar9 posted are in the bible but he took almost all of it out of context..they are stories of what happened in jewish history and not commands to kill people or offer human sacrifices like he suggests...

for example a man decided to sacrifice his daughter, tartat9 posts that the bible condones human sacrifice while infact it is a verse that illustrate how terribly the king had stoop to and how vices where creeping into the kingdom.. no where is such it condoned...

He takes a single line out of a verse without its wide context and claims its a command..if they are commands to kill, christians will be killing..but they are not..

This is the fallacy of double standard. You guys do the same for Quran and Hadeeth and deny that on the Bible it's really not fair remember God is watching you.
Again I repeat quoting out of context of the Islamic Sources to paint it red is not a favourable way to call to your religion
Allahu alam

Peace be upon all with guidance from the Creator
The original post was like this. I will spend time to answer this
He said "I call on Islam, coran to be reform. Remove all of the coranic Verses which Encourage Killing, terrorism, beheading, eg. Kill non-Islam People and you will enter Paradise and you will have 24 hours Heterosexual acts. Remove child abuse, child rape, Wife beating, Women abuse , female Clit.oris cutting. Remove All of Coran verse which allowed Muslims to beat their Wives, To have animals Sex 4 by 1 legal animals sex.
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My Reply: This first statement of yours shows how ignorant you are on Islam. The Qur’an is a book of Divine guidance and has verses that talks on different situations. It talks on the Etiquette of Peace and that of War. In general context. You have to look at the Qur'an holistically and look at verses like
Surah Mumtahinah verse 8 and 9.
"Allâh does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allâh loves those who deal with equity.9.
It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allâh forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the Zâlimûn(wrong-doers those who disobey Allâh)."
So you see there is a context of War here. The Quran never talks of "child abuse, child rape, Wife beating, Women abuse , female Clit.oris cutting." They are seriously frowned at by Islam but when you go to anti Islamic sites that tries to demonize Islam and quotes and Hadeeth or the other without taken in to notice what Islamic Scholars says about them. You fall into bigotry. And taking a group like Boko Haram or ISIS as mainstream Islam is unfair. Because they are little number out of the billion of Muslims. I recommend two books ; One Refuting ISIS by Sheikh Muhammad al Yaqoubi and Fatwa on Terrorism and Suicide Bombing by Sheikh Tahir-ul Qadhi.
He said: Remove all of Coran verse which child molest servant of Allah said, Islam will dominate the world by sexual over Reproduction rate. All of Muslims can worship their idol Allah without killing Kaffir/infidels , without child rape, women abuse, animal sex, Beheading, and never try to dominate the world by means or sword or by means of Animal reproduction rate, and stay peacefully with all other religions on earth, never try to destroy others Religions such as Buddhist, Hindus, Jews , Christians etc....Never Insult others Religion in your mosque or In your Terrorist Camp.
My Response: read the above response and I will quote a verse
“For had it not been for Allah’s repelling some men by means of others, cloisters and churches and oratories and mosques, wherein the name of God is oft mentioned, would assuredly have been pulled down.” — Qur’an 22:40
Read articles like theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/protecting_houses_of_worship_a_duty_for_muslims
He said:
If you can do this, Then the world will accept Islam is the awesome Religion of peace wink ....All of coran verses which encourage All kinds of criminals in the name of Satan( Allah) must be deleted or eradicated.
But Islam coran is based on killing, Murdering , child rape, women abuse, beheading, looting, animals sex...these such extreme criminals are the main stream of Islam coran . Don't Muslims see these verses? How do they keep blind eyes on them? shocked
My Response: the world don't have to accept Islam. It has no choice for it is more than 23% of the population and still increasing. Again the essence of Islam isn't as you painted it. The essence of Islam is peace with the Creator and others around us.
O You who believe ! Enter absolutely into peace ( Islam ) . Do not follow in the footsteps of satan. He is an outright enemy to you.
(Surat al-Baqara, 208)
He said:
Oh ! without these Mohammed Favorite criminals are the main stream of Islam quran....Islam coran Allah Can not survive without these criminals....I would like to ask you Muslims about one question.
If Allah is Almighty, let him come to earth and kill all Kaffirs/infidels by himself, why didn't he kill kaffirs by himself and using Muslims to kill Kaffirs? because the true God will never command you to kill people in order to spread religion. The God of the bible is Indeed the Almighty and according to his Son Jesus Christ. His "WORD" will spread all over the earth by using "Power of Love" , not the "Power of Hatred" Killings which is the only Method of Satan Himself , throught ISLAM. Thank you.[font=Lucida Sans Unicode]
My response: Again you just called terrorist the main stream Islam which is a blatant accusation and lie. Well Islam is on the rise in Europe especially UK what sword is being put in their necks to enter Islam. Malaysia, Indonesia is Muslim dominant what army went there to convert by the sword again Allah reminds us in the Quran
We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had Allah willed , He would have made you a single community , but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So compete with each other in doing good . Every one of you will return to Allah and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed .
(Surat al-Ma’ida, 48).
He said: because the true God will never command you to kill people in order to spread religion. The God of the bible is Indeed the Almighty and according to his Son Jesus Christ. His "WORD" will spread all over the earth by using "Power of Love" , not the "Power of Hatred"
My Response: of course the true God will never do that but you have to read Deuteronomy
Chapter 2
32-37
. 33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us;
and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people . 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones , of every city, we left none to remain.
I am not going to use verses like this and others to judge Christianity. Or use the action of the Crusaders to judge it. But that is what you guys are doing and thinking it's a good way to call Muslims to your religion only the ignorant Muslims will fall for this deception.
Final Response: I urge you to please get a Quran and read for yourself and see the theme of the Message. And how different it is from what you know. And instead of posting things like this that will help no one. You better get yourself enlightened. By using your intellectual capabilities to read the Quran on your own. I pray for the Guidance from the Creator for us all.
Allahu alam
I end with peace.
Thank you.