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What sort of crap is this. How can you say something twice & then claim u didn't.
Is that not you in the screenshots saying the presence of combatants makes the place a target? Or the brain that said that is not on duty today.

You are now claiming "if they're being used by combatants for war purposes" is what you said.

Mr. Man you said the mere presense of combatants make the infrastructure and the civilians around them a target. It's a lie and I corrected it. You realized that is fact and claimed you're the one that said it.

Talking about comprehension. I said UN shelter you are talking about UN school.
First of all do you even know UN means united nations and their workers are mostly volunteers/ employees from different countries and religion. They always set up a settlement in warravaged places in order to help civilians.
There was never any school UN runs to indoctrinate any religion or castigate 1.

Maybe the UN you know is uncle nedu. The one educated people know only sets up safe shelters AFTER war starts & has never ever been accused by any side of participating in the war.
UN trucks was never in the possession of Hamas.

You keep coming up with arrant nonsense to defend those God forsaken people you like to call God's people.

The infrastructure they intentionally bombed had nothing to do with military activities. You are here even lieing harder than them.
Who is your imaginary witness that was under a school.
Do you know the type of ballistic missiles that can travel the distance to isreal. They don't shoot that from inside a building. It's always from an open field.

No video exist anywhere of people shooting out of hospitals. No remnants of weapons was found in the rubbles.

You keep pulling all sorts of low iq fabrications out of your hat and them amending it with more crap

I should have known I was just wasting my time since the 2nd response.

Goodbye

GeneralOuki:
I can clearly mow see that comprehension is a problem for you. I never said civilians are valid targets, even my quote that you quoted clearly said civilian INFRASTRUCTURE are valid targets if they're being used by combatants for war purposes and that's clearly stated by the article that I linked for you to read. Abi you don't know what infrastructure means?

Those hospitals and schools were being used by Hamas, it's not even something to debate about, there are videos evidences littered on the internet of hamas firing RPG from the hospital, one of the released captive revealed that he was being kept under a school, there are tunnels under those buildings and the video of them are easy to find IF you care about the truth and not just propaganda BS.

You mean the UN schools where kids are taught to hate Jews and encouraged to become martyrs? Have you even taken your time to examine the activities of "UNRWA" in Gaza? My dear during the October 7 attack there were several UN trucks seen at the scenes either carrying away captives or dead bodies of iarealis to be used as ransom. There were several UN workers who participated in the attack, the evidence was so damning that UN had to save face by firing several of its workers in Gaza for involvement.

I don't think you have a solid grasp of this subject, you should read more about this.

Yes Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza, that's not a debate, it's a fact, both them and Hamas have committed lots of war crimes.

How did buhari do that

anonimi:
Atiku may not come anywhere near the job of president, if he doesn’t work on the issues of how he is perceived as flippant and nonchalant with lousy people like Dino as his mouthpiece.

He has to learn from how Buhari dealt with his own perception issues of being stubborn, stiff and ethnoreligious bigot in 2015.

You've not made any tenable point or addressed the existing talking points.
You are trying to go for a new direction.

The same mistake you made initially when you thought you have a great insight about Rus-Ukr neighborly war meaning African wars can also be excused. You were simply corrected. Others read your take and scoofed, knowing it's shallow.
I only wasted my time explaining why.

Adakintroy:
You take one example you not even well acquainted with the history and make generalisation. Like you have lived the history enough of the place. All cause of human striving do not stray far from food( resource) territory or mating right. Other superficial reason are ethnic/ tribal national or religious causes. To make it particular to African alone shows you not even well ground in conflict resolutions. By the way it s sociology 101 very basic. Our human instinct at the base are apexly similar to animal. There are no ideology as you think. You are just giving them a rational spin. You making stuff up for them in other words.

Exactly what I said earlier. Civilians are never a legitimate target UNLESS THEY PARTICIPATE IN SOME FORM IN the war. This section discusses this in relation to civilian infrastructure. Civilian objects even when empty (to avoid collateral damage) must not be destroyed UNLESS IT GETS CONVERTED TO MILITARY USE.

THIS was what you said
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I said that the presence of combatants in a civilian infrastructure makes that infrastructure a valid target and that's well covered in the Geneva convention
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That is a lie. The mere presense of military men around civilians can never make those civilians the target indiscriminately. That infrastructure itself must be in active use for the war efforts.

Now, what isreal themselves claimed as defense was that the kindergarten and hospital they bombed was being used to store weapons. However in the full view of all media cameras, the debris was cleared and no remnants of weapon was found atall. So they lied and took the rest of the world for foools.
Another target was a UN camp. They thought so lowly of everyone's intelligence that they claimed UN that sent humanitarian workers to help those displaced people is actively supporting hanas and hiding weapons for them. They just hate them for helping Palestinians and killed them.
Even as crazy as liberia was. UN enclosures were always neutral zone.
Not to mention residential buildings intentionally bombed while families were sleeping.


If isreal is not called out , anybody anywhere may do the same to another sect of people. God forbid, it may even come close to home.
They are terrorists and war criminals.

GeneralOuki:
Article 52 - General protection of civilian objects
1. Civilian objects shall not be the object of attack or of reprisals. Civilian objects are all objects which are not military objectives as defined in paragraph 2.

2. Attacks shall be limited strictly to military objectives. In so far as objects are concerned, military objectives are limited to those objects which by their nature, location, purpose or use make an effective contribution to military action and whose total or partial destruction, capture or neutralization, in the circumstances ruling at the time, offers a definite military advantage.

3. In case of doubt whether an object which is normally dedicated to civilian purposes, such as a place of worship, a house or other dwelling or a school, is being used to make an effective contribution to military action, it shall be presumed not to be so used.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/api-1977/article-52

Whatever history book that indoctrinated me? Lol... Nigerians and their hate for history and facts will never not have me bewildered. There's not a single historical document on this topic that doesn't say exactly what I just said, none.
Yes I agree that innocent lives are being lost, there's no denying the fact that Israel and Hamas has committed war crimes in Gaza but let's not twist facts just because we want to push an agenda.

He should have been doing the job of coach & not refree

Anytime threads like this open. You people jump around supporting one side with your own version of the propaganda fed to you .

Let them just open this strait and let fuel price go down.

Let Iran quit nuclear weapons program. Let isreal stop terrorizing civilians and stealing their land. Let US stand down and stop being blackmailed by espetien's people to help fight unpopular wars.

They are all beign silly and affecting global economics.

Holding a mirror to your face calls for retrospection. Not squirming around dodging your own accountability.
Lol desciples of the white indeed.
Anyway what you need is education. But I can't fetch it for you. You need to go and read.
All those wars were fought for territories where resources are actually located.

Do you know the root cause of most tribal crisis here is just young men trying to bully the men from the other town. Case in point is offa-erinile crisis & that one in Delta some months ago. No sensible ideologies behind it.
Even our civil war could have been handled with better conflict resolution.
Generals were killed in a coup. Then northerners started killing innocent easterners who knew nothing. It escalated.

If you dont want the truth continue with the jargons.

Ps.
Let me give you an assignment right now. Explain the ongoing Sudan war to us.

Adakintroy:
Again you walking into it. You so desperate to be disciples of the whites you will defend their course. Hitler had a rational reason. Roman empire had theirs. America had theirs with Vietnam, gulf, Iran Afghanistan. Am I judging it bad? No! It's there reason. It's what it is. Why then have one standard Africans different for the others. Call all wars bad and we can all go home. Am sure if Africans have this much wars on a regular they will be call primitive or barbarian.

The problem with African wars is that it is usually pointless.
There are no ideals to arrive at/ from most.

Supremacy arguments just gets sparked by one reckless instant and pogrom starts. It can be quelled then another cycle starts again.

If you enter trenches where boys show more primitiveness, they all want to be a feared individual. If you're not quick to violence nobody will respect you. That's the problem Africa has.
We are obsessed with practicing violence even for nothing.

Adakintroy:
White men and wars.


All of Una weh de shout say Africa na backward continent You see say their negative pass Ur own. At least Ur na poverty. Their own na to kill each other no flinch for years on and on. All na brother from one former soviet. They good pass us and evil pass us. Them pass us for everything.

Bring out the exact page in that convection where - what you typed out was written. We all know the link to the whole book.
Bring out the statements pertaining to that claim you made.

Whatever history book copy you read that indoctrinated you is no concern of mine.
Anyway I'm less concerned about who own the land whatever, than the innocent lives I said is being lost to terrorist isreal. I refuse to digrees on that to another topic.

Tell us clearly how you want to defend the fact that isreal is committing genocide.

GeneralOuki:
Oga read my comments properly and stop rushing to refute just for the sake of it.
I didn't say that combatant presence makes civilians valid target, I said that the presence of combatants in a civilian infrastructure makes that infrastructure a valid target and that's well covered in the Geneva convention IF YOU'VE EVER BOTHERED TO READ IT.
https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/loss-protection 👈🏽 Read this and educate yourself on this subject, my comment was about the infrastructure and not the civilians themselves.

Oga do you know that Palestinians at one point in history included the Jews, Druze and Arab populations living in that land during the ottoman period? So which "Palestinians" does it truly belong to? The Arab Palestinians that migrated from Yemen, Egypt and other surrounding areas, the Druze Palestinians or the Jewish Palestinians? And mind you, the Jews have always, always lived on that land even though a large number of them migrated to other parts of the world after the Revolt that brought down the temple in 70AD, and also during the islamic conquest which forced them to pay jizya as second class citizens, even after that, a significant number of Jews still remained in "Palestine" and never left, so are you going to tell me that these Jews that chose to remain in palestina aren't rightful owners of the land just like everyone else?

Furthermore, I will like you to Keep in mind that that land bore a name before being named palestina and the name it bore before that was Israel. Ancient Egyptian texts confirmed this, Roman text recorded it and Greek philosophers acknowledged that fact. So to say that the Jews who first named it Israel before the Romans renamed it to palestina aren't rightful owners of the land is crazy mental gymnastics.

Go and read the history of that place

This is mostly exaggeration of some events and a framing of public opinion

The first sign of lack of quality education is asking AI crapppy questions.
But that is not your only problem. You also mixed this with having very low I Q.

1st the question you asked is about trying to make ai response retrospective of your bias. Yet, you did not even read the response. It tried to explain the details to you, but you thought it was corroborating you.

Insurance companies raised premiums because Iran was attacking ships that passed the straits. Shipping companies cant bear the cost so they stopped passing there.
Apply a little intelligence you can muster (no mater how small), and answer this question yourself.
WHAT WAS THE PRIMARY CAUSE.

QuinQQ:
Educate yourself below and stop arguing nonsense



Ignorance all over. Read below

I'm always done with the argument when it becomes about justifying one atrocity over the other. Placing one set of life above another or those I'm fighting for a good God, you're fighting for the bad 1 stuffs.

I just have to waste a little bit more of my time to point out that you pulled that first statement out of your hat.
No. The presence of active combatants among a civilian population does not make the civilian population itself a lawful target.
Under international humanitarian law (IHL), including the Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols civilians must never be targeted UNLESS THEY PARTICIPATE IN SOME FORM IN THE FIGHT.
What you typed was not boldly written anywhere.

intentionally directing attacks against civilians not taking direct part in hostilities constitute a war crime & basis for genocide.

The land traditionally belongs to the Palestinians. Many countries had brief period of foreign administration or colonization but their land was eventually returned to them.

That aside.
Both hamas and the state of isreal are terrorists.
Bye

GeneralOuki:
Yes it's a war crime to indiscriminately target civilian areas, but if there's a active combatant in that area, such areas or infrastructure loses it's civilian protection and is valid target. It is boldly written in that UN document that you referred to.

Children being part of hamas actually makes them legitimate targets, and the blame is on the people who used them as child soldiers, they're the ones committing a war crime and not the ones who neutralised them. There's a reason why child soldiers are a crime in international law. And No I disagree that it was a genocide, the intent was not there, but yes Israel has committed a lot of war crimes in Gaza but not genocide.

They didn't take over any land, you have to have basic knowledge of the history of this place to know that what you just said is not true. Israel went into Gaza and occupied it when Egypt rejected the right to administer the strip, then on 2005; Israel demolished all their settlements and even exhumed their graves and left Gaza, handing it over to the Palestinians to govern by themselves. They did so by electing Hamas into power who Went on to Kill every political opposition in Gaza, and immediately began launching rocket at Israel which led to the blockade on the strip by both Israel and Egypt.

This would be my last take. Because at this point you're saying crap & you also know it.

Do you even know what UN means. So United nations sent red cross and other humanitarian workers to help victims of war and they would allow IRCG of all people to hide weapons with them. Isreal bombed those people because they are giving food to those they hate and vener even apologized. You are talking about weapons. When the debris were cleared from those schools and hospitals under full media glare no remnants of weapons. Not even bullet casing was found. So what informed isreal that weapons are on that site.

How can ICC be created for anyone. It means international criminals court. It indictes all war/interpol flagged criminals. They listed all the crimes of Netanyahu & he couldn't defend himself.

How can isreal be kind to allow people remain on their own land.

How can you be telling us their own lives is more important than anybody else.

Arrant bs.

Ovacoma:
I don't know what you are thinking.
When terrorists hide their weapons in kindergartens, hospitals, UN facilities, etc and they are fighting and sending missiles into Israel from those places, Mr, those places become valid targets irrespective of the people in those places.
ICC is for people like you who want to be pleased, at least you and other are always referring to ICC arrest warrant to make your point. Israel has even been kind enough to allow Palestinians remain in Gaza after Oct 7, how many countries will tolerate that or do you think Israel don't have the firepower to scare everybody out of the strip? Israel is doing the necessary things to make sure anyone planning another Oct 7 will think twice or even be exposed by Palestinians themselves before destruction comes to everybody. All the people shouting from the river to the sea are the ones calling for Netanyahu arrest and Israel action genocide. You outside Gaza are the ones calling Israel action genocide, it is not genocide, Palestinians themselves know that, they know they mess up big time and there must punishment for it. The neighbouring countries know how things work in the middle East, Israel and Hamas know what they are doing. Hamas want the world see Israel as bad and they largely succeeded, Israel also knows the rest of the world wouldn't come to her aid if these terrorists overpowers her. Therefore, Israel has to do whatever necessary for existence and your opinions don't matter to them since you are not in their shoes.

Insurance companies only raised the cost of insurance.
Lol. They have no say in foreign policy anywhere.

They are only cashing out too presently.
What you don't know in your blind need to support isreal against the extermination of its Muslim neighbors is that only smart people profit. As always in every war.

American economy is not booming. The ordinary middle class folks are complaining bitterly about energy costs. Trump is pocketing the money from Venezuela oil sales. It's not going into us coffers.

You particularly is one of those suffering repercussions and refusing the facts

QuinQQ:
My friend Iran CAN'T close the strait. The strait was closed by insurance companies as soon as the war began, BEFORE Iran said or did anything. So the strait is closed by insurance companies because of instability in the area, NOT by Iran!



Nonsense. Iran that is in total taters wins? Meanwhile US economy is booming and they are making tons of money as the WORLD'S BIGGEST OIL EXPORTER. Is ME US? They themselves are also fighting Iran!

These people have the key and the padlock.

They can decide to use people as pawns in theor game.

If you want to fight the bandit herdsmen. But you also kill every fulani selling fura or meat. That is not war on terrorism. It has nothing to do with fighting for your own survival. It is genocide.

Maybe you need a list of the spots Isreal bombed. Including kindergartens and hospital buildings. Then the shelters that survivors fled to. Those people clearly separated men and women in those camps. Isreal intentionally killed those people.

Isreal sent troops into Gaza. So they very well identified who is who.

The UN and human rights watch declared that isreal violated multiple humanitarian laws/rules of engagement after they investigated. So what are u saying. Or why do you think ICC issued an arrest warrant on nethanyahu.

Terrorists dey. Genocidal murderer dey.
I don't know why anybody would sanley applaud either.

Ovacoma:
Israel is doing what is necessary for it's existence. You can hand over your own life and land to the fulanis. Hamas would have separated themselves from the children and women if they really want to fight, but because of people like you who think Israel ought to be soft on the people who want its annihilation, they are hiding among babies and women while fighting with the IDF. This time is different, even all the protesters realized Israel doesn't care what the rest of the world think, that is why protests disappeared.
That is how to deal with terrorists, there should be no moderation in bring destruction to the enemy who threatens your existence.

You can't carry out carpet bombing of entire neighborhoods because some suspected fighters could be hiding there. Indiscriminate targeting is called a war crime by the UN convention. That was ractified since the 60s.

Children were definitely part of hamas or their nursing g mothers or the people in several hospitals that isreal bombed. Isreal committed a clear genocide and that should not be difficult for anybody to see and acknowledge.

Subsequently, they took over their land and drew the Yellow line. Even US media called it a real estate land grab.

My own criticism is always objective. I dont support the terrorists in Palestinian population nor do I support Israel.

GeneralOuki:
They were targeting Hamas and PIJ fighters who were embedded within civilian population. This is what you get in an urban warfare, civilian casualties and civilian infrastructure getting obliterated. The Allied forces fire bombed Hamburg and Dresden resulting in hundreds of thousands of civilian lives and then they went on to drop two atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki then completed it with incendiary bombs on Tokyo.

They couldn't communicate with Hamas that are inside Gaza, in fact they made no attempt to do so other than with air strikes on their positions. And it was very difficult to identify Hamas members, they could only identify the well known ones but not the regular fighters.

Let them keep trying. They will actually win 1 day.

You people forget how petty yoruba elders are. Some will one day say the other major candidate did not respect them and throw their support to the outsider.

I believe some of the ancient internal strife in this tribe might have been caused by scenarios related to - he did not somersault and prostrate well when he saw me.

A political candidates might take advantage of that one day

But it was civilians they relentlessly bombed. They blew up family houses and then took their land.

They could identify and communicate with Hamas all along but choose a softer target. That was wrong.

Hamas needs to stop attacking Israeli citizens also with terrorism.
Truth needs to be told about both.

GeneralOuki:
Hopefully this will go a long way in restoring some kind of peace in that area. Hamas brought a war of destruction upon the very Palestinians they claimed to be fighting for, 70,000 dead and several others wounded and permanently maimed they have finally ( hopefully I must add) realised this was a losing battle from the onset.

Sometimes going really hard on people with this sort of mentality is the best way forward, not whatever it is that our Nigerian government are doing with bandits and terrorists in Nigeria. Hit them so hard that they go pick up their senses wherever they dropped it , or grow one if they had none in the first place.

How can a sane person want something like that.

So the civilians should be killed enmass because there is a conflict with their political leaders. Does that make sense to you.

franchasng:
Iran need Hiroshima treatment to get sense.


That was how body was peppering Japan and Japanese Prime Minister Tojo in 1941 until they foolishly attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 and hell got unleashed on Japan on August 6 and 9 1945, immediately their peppering body calmed down




Use Iran as a testing ground for that special bomb i wouldn't want to mention here, let the few remaining Iranians that will survive it learn to embrace peace like Japan

They had an agreement a long time ago. With Obama. Trump tore it up and proposed his own. They had some progress on that then Trump was persuaded to attack them. The sudden suprise attack resulted in many deaths.

Now Iran is divided.
Some argue that America is just going to use any pause in hostilities to target and take out anything Iran still has as leverage. They also now see that the strait is the only reason US wanted to cease fire because oil is going crazy.

Some of their generals want to fight desicively now.

toffyz:
I used to support this Iran before but I've withdrawn my support for them. I thought Trump already reached an agreement with them. So why the fight again??

It seems they're actually benefitting with the war not ending. They're beginning to show they're real Terrorists nation. Truth be told.

I am a Muslim and a staunch supporter of Iranians BEFORE.

Does it have any problem with culture of respecting your parents and community leaders. Does it have problems with progressive laws. No.

But it surely has a problem with cultures like burying 10 human heads with a dead king and throwing twins in the evil forest.

Eraddray:
It has no respect for the law of the land ...it exhibit zero tolerance even towards the host culture

RedChair:
The fact that it swallows up every culture in its path is what I do not like.

With other religions, you can keep you language, culture, laws of your land etc and still practice them.

But islam? It must replace your indigenous language and culture with arabic. Even the laws of your land must be replaced! It just kills everything in its path.

It's a mob religion.

Really can't wrap my head around it.

He doesn't actually own x

Most of the capital is from qatar sheiks. You can research the true venture capitalists. Maybe it's you that need to deactivate.

RichDad1:
Let me see if those Islamic countries will deactivate that X accounts 😂 😂 😂 😂

Soyink and the others narrated something like this before.

So the north truly asked atiku to out obasanjo after only 1 term.
They said Obj had to get on his knees to beg him not to do it. They told atiku then that Obj is mean old man & would hound him always for the humiliation.

The real problem atiku has however is that the cabal that backs you to become president in Nigeria mist see you as ruthless as them. Atiku showed a soft side.
When they needed a northern man to oust Johnathan. They went for buhari instead. They would never back atiku again if they have another option that has the trait they want.
That's why he keeps losing.

What kind of Strange

Mathain19:
Maggots farming was interesting when I was feeding them to my cat fish in the ponds., cat fish and other breeds of fish feed more on maggots, I later stopped feeding them with maggots when my fishes started behaving strange.

Why is that going to happen

Care to explain

Tenses:
Do you know that the combined votes of LP, PDP and APGA in the last presiedntial election was enough to prevent tinubu from becoming the president.

Now these party won't be on the ballots in 2027.

The SW must do everything humanly, inhumanely, godly and ungodly possible to prevent tinubu from returning to power. If tinubu ie returned the the SW will suffer for all the carnage done by tinubu.