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Konquest:
Indeed, but at a VERY heavy cost in terms of money spent and lives lost.

It will ONLY be worth it if the Iranian Shiite mullahs are removed... A total regime change otherwise they will stubbornly bounce back and be deadlier.

This is NOT the time to be politically correct.

The emperor Cyrus the Great (Shah han Shah) of the Persian Empire of which Iran forms the eoicenter will be "happy" in his grave if that is done.

The Israelis and the Iranians were BEST of friends during the years of the Shahs of Iran till the very last one that left in 1979 on exile when Ayatollah Khomeini and his fellow Shiite rulers took over Iran. The relationship between the Jews and Persians (Iran) was very cordial that many Jews even lived in Tehran and migrated from other countries of Europe and the Caucasus region by boat into Shiraz and contiguous cities of Iran.

Actually the current damages and death in Israel as a result of this conflict with Iran has been far far below expectations. The long standing projection was that a conflict with Iran will result in at least 5000 deaths and massive infrastructure damages. But so far not up to 30 deaths in Israel and Iran's military power it declining each day as the war rages on.

b0rn2fuck:
people will support Iran and the game will change

who are these people that are going to support Iran? Russia? They have their hands full with Ukraine. They couldn't even do much for Assad when he was overthrown. China are not going to do anything more than sending relief materials and North Korea are not stupid enough to Risk it.

Basic123:
It depends of which propaganda you listen to most.

I'm listening, watching and reading from both sides.

Edusouls:
hahaha USA asslicker, NATO that have been defeated in Ukraine that is begging for peace, what is holding Trump from joining? They are waiting for him nahh, the most foolish American president ever, bro those days of USA military might is gone , others don learn work

Did you read where I said that I don't like the US? And you still think I'm an asslicker?

There's no NATO in Ukraine, what's happening there is that NATO have provided Ukraine with military aids but there are no boots on the ground. And yet Ukraine is still fighting hard against Russia, they are still shooting down Russia fighter jets out of the sky, Russia have not made much progress into Ukraine since the start of the year and these are all with limited NATO assistance.

If you naively think that USA might is no longer something to be feared then you have not been paying attention to what's happening to Iran right now. The F-15, F-16 , F-35 fighter jets and the Drones Israel used in taking over the skies in Iran are all US tech with minor Israeli modification. And US has much more advanced planes like the F-35 and F,-22 in very large numbers , plus the B2 and B21 bombers, stealth bombers, they have the best military logistics in the world right now and logistics is what wins you wars.

Russia and China are not on the same league with the US in terms of military power, the only reason Russia even has balls to oppose the US is because of their nuclear warheads.

Honestly I think you don't know what you're talking about and very naive.

Peakdesign23:
It's his choice, he should do whatever pleases him.

Abi na.... Since we like electing criminals and people with questionable characters into power.

Basic123:
The rate at which ISREAL and IRAN dey push victory propaganda ehn.

It depends on where you are getting your news from.

Nigerian media report tends to be more pro-Isreal.

Israel is actually having an upper hand in this conflict by a wide margin. Apart from civilian deaths, Iran doesn't have much else, but Israel have been eliminating military generals, nuclear site, missile launch pads, defence system,fighter jets etc, they're gradually seriously crippling Iran's military power all while limiting the casualties in their countries to very small margin. If this drags on for long, Iran will completely lose their entire military arsenal

b0rn2fuck:
World war might start and it won't be funny this time.

who are going to fight the world war? Iran?

Edusouls:
He is talking too much let USA enter, all proxies would be activated, they are already gladly waiting all over Iraq, all USA airbase automatically becomes a target, of Russia would help of course, china would help in their own way, trump is bad luck to USA I didn’t know this man was such a fool

lol... If they attack any American base in middle east then it's otilo for Iran. Whatever proxies that are getting activated will not be any much threat even to Israel let alone a joint military venture between Israel and US. Russia will not help more than sending aids.... And Goodluck with aid getting to it's destination when Israel and US are in control of the skies. If you think China is going to get themselves involved in anyway meaningful then you're a novice in world politics, aside from moral support and maybe humanitarian aid they're not going to do much. Listen if any idiot attacks any US base you are going to see the full might of NATO on display.
And this is coming from someone who doesn't like the US very much, but I know or have an idea what they're capable of, and I know Iran does too. They're just posturing and making mouth just like Saddam Hussein did, but at the end of the day it's all empty threats.

onatisi:
Trump came in at a time America needed a strong president that can take hard decisions . I really commend trump for siding with Israel and the plan to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons . The world cannot doors to allow Iran a major sponsor of terrorism to have nuclear weapons ,it's very dangerous

If Iran weren't a net sponsor of terrorism in Middle East I wouldn't have been opposed to them having a nuclear weapon.

Depriest2020:
What more do they want to strike that Israel can't?

the fordow nuclear site is a heavily fortified bunker that's several layers underground. It can only be penetrated by a specific type of bunker burster missile and only the B2 bomber is capable of carrying that payload. Israel doesn't have any air craft that can carry such payload and that's why they haven't bombed the site since... Also it's believe that Khomeini is likely hiding there or somewhere equally as fortified as this.

steveodo:
Haba, so many part in toofan na. when thier father died, the train fight, when the eventually met

When their father died performing that escape magic? I didn't find it emotional o... I actually thought the man was suicidal. The train fight was just fun , no emotion. Na the time they finally met again that actually was emotional.

Omo now I want to go and rewatch the movie

owobokiri:
Obviously, all the so called nuclear non proliferation talks between the West and Iran were nothing but smokescreens to buy time in order to make sure that Iran has no nuclear stockpiles before the west attacked. It was the same charade they organised in Iraq. Iran has herself to blame anyways. Ayatollah had all the time in the world to get himself the ultimate bomb. Iran has already been ostracised, was encircled militarily by hostile forces, with serious economic sanctions. The only option to stave off any sort of attacks was to have some nukes. If Iran had nuclear bombs, Isreal would never have attacked..

Under Obama, the west promised Iran all sorts of billions to drop their nuke ambitions during different diplomatic engagements. They used the slimy Qataris to lure in the Iranians. The Iranians agreed. When you look at that agreement, you can't help but wonder why the West seemed desperate to grovel at the feet of the Iranians with billions. But the reason is very clear now; the west were not sure of how far the Iranians have gone and needed time to make sure there was not nukes before bombing Tehran to oblivion..

These events also prove that democracy in the West is highly dramatised.. It is "contracted".. If all these Western leaders will continue to pursue the same plan laid down more than a decade ago by their predecessors, irrespective of their much vaunted ideological differences along party and national lines, it means that there are more entrenched sophisticated powers that determine who rules different western capitals and when such rulers should leave office. I mean, it was Obama that started the delay tactics with Iran in the name of "negotiations". But it is Trump, an avowed anti Obama Republican that is carrying out the final bombings..

From the rush to leave Afghanistan, to the orchestrated Gaza invasion of Isreal (which the Mossad is laughably claiming to not be aware of the plannings), to Syria and Hezbollah, Iran was always the main target..

This is serious cope Lmao 🤣.
Do you know the major reason why the world doesn't trust Iran with nuclear armament? It's because they have been openly supporting Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthi, all terrorist organisation. And they have been openly chanting death to Israel, death to America. No one in their right senses would allow a government that have been openly chanting for their deaths to get anywhere close to a nuke, especially when these people have terrorist allies.

Furthermore, it's really funny you're blaming mossad for orchestrating the October 7 Hamas attack and trying to absolve Hamas, PIJ and their sponsors, Iran, of any blame. Victim blaming, that's all you people do — why did she wear those sexy dress? Does she not know that she would be sexually assaulted if she wore that?

Bullet4thiefnub:
See NAZI kwa , yes you know a lot about dirty work , your fathers invented dirty work and practiced it in Africans first and then the Jews , strangely Hitler counted the afghans and the Persians as pure aryans

This is false! Hitler didn't count the modern Persian as pure Aryans.
Hitler and other German Nazis made it clear that the modern Iranians were not considered to be pure Aryans. Speaking on Iranians, Hitler would later falsely assert: “Nations which did not rid themselves of Jews, perished. One of the most famous examples of this was the downfall of a people who were once so proud – the Persians [the old European name for Iranians].”

More crudely, Hitler would tell the German army command in 1939: “We will continue to stir up unrest in the Far East and in Arabia. We must think as Masters and see in these peoples at best lacquered half-apes, who want to feel the whip.”

Rosenberg wrote: “Once, the Persian king gave order to cut into the rock face of Behistun [in Iran] the following words: ‘I, Darius the Great King, King of Kings, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage’ Today the Persian muleteer [a person who drives a mule] pulls ahead soullessly by this wall: he represents thousands – culture and personality are born together with race and also die with it.”

In other words, ancient Iranians were superior “Aryans” while Iranians of today, like the “Persian muleteer” who was passing by, had lost that ancient glory by diluting their stock. As Motadel explains: “Most National Socialist ideologues agreed with the idea that ‘Aryans’ – in their attempt to cultivate the Orient – perished as a result of infiltration (Überfremdung) by ‘Semitic races’.”

TheStranger:
our military will just do operation cobra dance and defeat the Americans

That's overkill na haba! Na Just small green snake dance them need

matsonj3:
Blackburn era

Chelsea era

Mancity era

Chelsea era that they won only 2-3 premier league... While united dominated with 6 league titles?

BodyCount:
Few millions of naira 2-3 in this economy
The foundation alone will even cost up to 500k.

blocks alone will consume at least 1.5 million. Roofing wood and sheets will cost close to a million, windows and doors will gulp up to 500k, painting maybe 100k. Then you have to also take labour into account. This house is from ₦4mil upwards.

Edit: I didn't even add electrical wiring, fittings and plumbing. If this house no cost ₦6ml make I know wetin cause am.

SusanOpeyemi:
500k can build it and change will remain sef. Though it depends on the location.

NB: Na who get land dey build house na


Modified: Those of you quoting me and yapping rubbish don't know when I built my house and how much it cost me then.

when did you build your house and how much did it cost you?

It cost us around 7 million to build our mansion in the village 13 yrs ago. The fence of our house in the city fell recently, do you know how much it has cost us to erect it back? 1.4 million! And that just 45ft long fence o, we have not even plastered it yet.

₦2 million won't give you this in this country right now even if the land na your own. 15 yrs ago 500k might get you 90% of the job done , but right now only blocks will finish the whole money. Unless you're CEO of a block industry 🤷🏾‍♂️

Mariangeles:
Professionals in the house, about how much would it cost to build a house like this?

if I hear! One million can't build this talk more of 500k . Do you have any idea how much cement is in the market? Whether you choose to buy the blocks from block industry or mold the blocks yourself you're going to spend nothing less than ₦300k. You never buy woods for roofing, roofing sheets, doors, windows, electrical wires and light fittings. Whether you decide to do tiling or just normal floor na you Sabi,all of them dey expensive. Then you're going to pay the workers unless you wan build am yourself.... If it's a day job you're going to spend nothing less than 300k, if it's a contract work it's around 300-400k If the person like you very well o. ...

This house will cost at least 3-4 million, at least o!

seunny4lif:
Immediately Libya and Syria war broken out, ans NK saw what happened in those countries, they secretly required nukes with the help of China and Russia, prefect it and displayed it for world to see.
Showing they will use it immediately they come under attack, because NK knew that it has no capacity to go one on one with SK/USA on military hardwares e.g logistics and weapons but they know 20 nukes can turn SK and Japan to rubbish and they are also ready for the consequences.
With that USA backed off

Imagine your 2nd most important person was killed yet they did nothing, no nukes displayed, nothing.
Isreali military knew she was surrounded by enemies and waste no time to acquired nukes.
Even NK tried to help Iran to get nukes but their so called supreme leader said NO.
Do they want Russia military to spoon feed them?
They are planned to break up Iran into 3 countries and they never hide it just like they need hide Russia own too but Russia nukes is the only different.

I respect NK supreme leader more, the guy was smart and quick to action while is father was afraid to acquire nukes during his time.

How can Iran watched all her neighbours get weak and not rush to get nukes even when Russia, NK and China were ready to help

Modified: someone of you are quoting about Iran don’t need nukes bla bla but Pak that is known for supporting and financing terrorists have nukes. No Iranian citizens have been found on any terror attempt inside USA but most are from Pak and Saudi Arabia.

Kim was able to acquire those nukes because they were solidly backed by Russia and China and they are in close proximity with these two super powers. Iran doesn't have that kind of backing and they are in the middle east.

Iran's inability to gain nuclear armament up till now is multifaceted. They have openly declared their intention to wipe out isreal which is the most important ally to the US in that region, their neighbouring countries (e.g Saudi, Jordan, Oman, Israel and Lebanon) are against them having it and they're well known for sponsoring Terrorism in MENA. You can say that Pakistan is the terrorist capital and were allowed to have nukes, that's true but the situation is complex although there's some hypocrisy to it but at least their government are not openly in support of these terrorist elements, they are not openly seeking to eradicate any of their neighbouring countries and the US use them as check on India.

hotwax:
i thought they said Iran is supower power...which superpower can be raided like this?

Even somalia can't be raided like this.

Omo na open shots oooo...where are their fake airdefence systems...chinese and russian products never work...

chinaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Israel knocked out their air defence system the last time they attacked Iran.

ruggedtimi:
And this attack shows...Israel actually took out 90% of iran's air defence system during the last Air raid

Yup. I was telling that to one of those ignorant fellows here on nairaland last week that Iran is currently defenceless against Israel since the latter knocked out all their defence system the last time they attacked..... The mumu follow me dey argue.

Babangidapikin:
I blame the US always supporting Israel recklessness thinking they're helping them, I bet they would turn against the US if they can.

it is actually the other way round, US are the ones keeping a leash on Israel. Without the US they would have levelled Iran a long time ago, it will cost them but the outcome would still be a levelled Iran.

And US supports Israel because they gain a lot of things from Israel (e.g military tech, intelligence and regional influence in the middle east) , take away Israel and US will lose their grip on the middle east, so it's in US best interest to always support Israel.

Nwaikpe:
World war happens when superpowers with ally states of like power, enter into conflict.
Iran is not a superpower.
Iran don't have any ally that is pro Iran and against Israel.
If you mention Russia, then you are oblivious of the fact that Russia can NEVER go against Israel as a Judeo Christian Nation.

Iran is a noise maker.
If they make more noise, they collect more.

exactly what I told him. Iran is not that powerful neither do they have a powerful ally that would be willing to stick out their necks for them. Russia is not going to do that, in fact they are just using Iran to push back on US influence in MENA, they no too put body for the matter

Babangidapikin:
I hope they know Iran has hypersonic missile and knows how to turn off your so call missile defense dome.. that they didn't get through much the last time was deliberate ... better avoid fighting if you can, you don't have monopoly of knowledge .

lol... Supersonic, na sonic the hedgehog them get. Iran can't turn off the iron Dome, no dey listen to all those propaganda nonsense.

helinues:
So Netayanhu is not just interested in Israel conducting a new election hence distracting with senseless fighting, war with others?

I am yet to understand why the Israelites can't decipher that their leaders have been using them to fight senseless war. The war that would still end with a roundtable talk, but it has always been cart before the horse.

The amount Israel have been spending in fighting this and that, just imagine them injecting that same amount in their own economy

First of all, these are not the Israelites , secondly they are responding to imminent threats and any prime minister whether Netanyahu or not would do the same.

As long as Iran are concerned, this is not an issue you can resolve in a roundtable discussions, they have opened stated their ultimate goal to eradicate Israel and have refused to recognise their right to exist. That's an open declaration of war and no serious nation will fold their hands and watch their enemies acquire power.

Yankiss:
There's war on ground already. Just that we pray it doesnt escalate to world war III

it can't get to ww3. Iran is not powerful enough and doesn't have any powerful allies that are willing to go to war alongside them. Russia the only strong ally they have is currently facing the Ukraine resistance and they're not going to fully ally with Iran in this conflict.
At most It might led to a regional war, but I highly doubt it. Whichever way, this is going to be an ass whooping for Iran. I pray that the Iranian civilians are kept away from danger as much as possible and seize the opportunity to overthrow the islamist extremists and regain their country back.

JASONjnr:
I just hope that we don't slide into war with all these troubles in the east.....

War with who? Syria is no longer allied with Iran, Lebanon (with the help of Israel dismantling of Hezbollah) have Fred themselves from the shackles of Iran, Saudi Arabia is just as weary and cautious of Iran as Israel is , both politically and religiously, Jordan, Oman, USE and Qatar are US lackies and won't try shit. It's only Yemen that are solidly allies to Iran and they can't do much, Afghanistan sef no even know wetin dey do them
So the entire MENA or Levant are all not comfortable with Iranian nuclear armament and would like the Iranian threat to be dealt with. It's just that they don't have the balls to challenge Iran but are happy to let Israel do the dirty work and absorb all the international criticism.

Villagesquare:
I don't think this world will ever be peaceful
Nation against Nation
Tribe against tribe
What is the work of United Nation if they can't resolve conflicts

UN is actually a toothless dog, it never had power other than the ones that each nation gave to it which is nothing. It doesn't have a standing army, it is just a forum like nairaland but for nations, to talk out their disagreements.

MadeInTokyo:
Not sure
Yemen has already issued a press statement earlier this week vowing to fire ballistic missiles towards Israel if Iran Nuclear sites are attacked

they too will collect their own portion of missiles. For the sake of innocent Yemenis the Houthi better stay away from this.

MadeInTokyo:
Israel has resumed second wave of air strikes against Iran

Iran seems to have no single air defense working

Israeli swarm drones have also just crossed Iraqi airspace heading towards Iranian air space to confront Iranian outdated and limited MiG-29 Soviet era made fighter jets.

I keep telling people here that Iran's air defence system have been knocked out by Israel since the last time they attacked, and that iran is currently defencelessness but ignorant people here continue to argue with me.
Iran have been defenceless for a long time and that's why they have moved forward with nuclear armament.
That their Russian air defence system was totally blind to F-23 jets.

Kemetian:
Every country on Earth is allowed nuclear enrichment for civil purposes, eg nuclear power plants, including Iran.

That is what Iran has been doing. Iran also agreed to allow inspectors to ensure she was not using it for weapons development.

Israel and Trump refused. Now the war. This is an unprovoked war of aggression by Israel, backed by America.

Iran has long since stopped inspectors from inspecting their nuclear program. They have been working in secret towards nuclear armament. That's why they have been dragging the nuclear deal agreement with US and why they threatened to strike US facilities in the middle east. Israel have learned from the Hamas invasion in 10/7 and are now being hyper proactive with preemptive military measures.

Checkwell:
Which kind play be this naw? Can someone please tell the OP to see me for some brain 🧠 evaluation?

that snake is harmless. It's s garter snake/garden snake