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remedick:
I have been ill bro. I applied already but can't make calls now cos of my ears. I dropped a message for the rep that emailed me on skype

Sorry to hear that. Hope you get well soon.

remedick:
Do we still have more input here? Come in and share your experience.

Hey, buddy

How's that CPA business going for you? Any results you can share already?

remedick:
oh bless you bro. That dude above does not know that this thing requires lots of work before stating that $100 per day is small; I could easily see he is one of those who read info but not even into it to begin with.

And yeah, I mean using domain name to redirect to CPA offers.

In this manner.

Facebook ads or any ads---->domain redirect----> CPA offers. So you mean doing it this way wouldn't get me penalize, right? Fair enough!

Thanks.

Not sure Facebook will go for it and even if they do, you'd be better off using a landing page, imo. Then again, give it a try and prove me wrong.

Good luck.

remedick:
question is do you? I am not saying it is not possible and yeah. DO YOU MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY? I am not talking about someone who read about it someone BUT one who practices it as well as a major income. I am not asking because I am new to online money making.

I am asking because I have a VERY IMPORTANT Piece of Puzzle question to ask.

So if your answer is yes, here I my question:

Do CPA companies allow you to drive traffic from paid ads to the offers directly to the offer pages, use redirect or link cloaking without penalizing you?

My interest is pay per lead in a certain niche, as well as free trials offer ( This should explain to you that I know something about it) The guy that even introduce CPA to Nigeria is Kenneth Ifeanyi but he was one of those early information marketing scammers and so he wasn't giving people the needed information cos he wasn't even practising what he preaches in the first place. This was in 2009.

JamesKenneth, thanks for the info shared so far. Please, can you help me answer the above?

Hi there,

Like I said before, I'm not doing CPA right now, so please don't take my words as the Bible, ok? I'll try however to answer your question based on what I do know.

First of all, if you're going the whitehat route - and I hope you are - you should be asking this question to your affiliate manager. Contrary to popular opinion, he should become your best friend. If there's something you believe you should be hiding from him, then just don't do it (my opinion, of course). It's not ethical and it's not worth it in the long run, either. If you have a good AM, your life becomes much simpler and your efforts more profitable. Do trust me on this one.

Also, CPA companies come in the most diverse shapes and colors. Policies vary from one to the other. There are those who play by the book and then there are others which are ok with the darker shades of grey, if you know what I mean. In fact, some of them actually get their offers from bigger companies; that's why affiliates' compensation is lower (they act as the middle man). Once again, be careful when you choose your CPA company and check with your AM before trying sth. funny.

And then, "paid ads" stands for a whole universe of posibilities, ranging from PPC at Google, Bing or sth smaller like 7search, to Facebook ads, PPV, display, Youtube ads, etc. Many different policies and rules to consider in each case, my friend.

Having said that, I can tell you this:

Direct linking to an offer is not sth that will get you penalized unless you're doing it for an offer which doesn't allow it (every offer allows a certain type of traffic, geo targeting, etc); more likely, it could get your account at certain traffic sources (Adwords, Bing, Facebook, Buysellads) penalized or at least your campaign rejected at some point. The important things to consider here are these:

- Places like Adwords, Bing ads or Facebook ads don't want you to direct link to your offers (PPV is a whole different ballgame)

- In any case, direct linking is (in my humble opinion, and from what I've heard from friends doing it) not as profitable anymore, particularly in certain niches and markets with more competition. You should treat CPA offers as we do with affiliate offers: Build a landing page with quality info and build your list right there. Then you'll have the chance to promote CPA offers - or anything else - to your list plenty of times. Also, once someone's subscribed to your list, you can re-direct right there to a CPA offer of choice (preferably a simple email submit) instead of using a traditional thank you page. This way you can pay for your own advertising and building a list becomes free or at least cheaper.

Now, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by redirecting to an offer. If you mean simply to add a landing page as an intermediary, then I answered your question above. If you mean using a redirect on your own domain or someone else's (, for instance), I guess it shouldn't be a problem (depending, however on the domain you use and the offer you select; sometimes, companies are rather picky). In fact, if I remember correctly, Peerfly for instance has added custom traffic redirects to deal with the very problem I mentioned before (not being able to include peerfly links, for example, in Facebook ads). This way, you'd be using a domain of your own to redirect and track traffic by simply updating your A Records, instead of using a meta refresh.

Now, cloaking is sth. else. Yes, you can get penalized for doing this, and rightfully so more often than not. There are a few cases were its use could be legit (for geo targeting or defending yourself against certain unscrupulous activities, I guess), but then I would definitely check with my AM before doing this. Besides, beware that to my knowledge every cloaking device leaks at least a bit.

Anyways, that's pretty much what I know. Nonetheless, I advice you once more to double check. Most importantly, check with your guy at your CPA company of choice. That's perhaps the most important piece of advice I can give you.

All the best

pman07:
Very simple to make but time demanding

I definitely agree up to a certain point.

If you take this as a business you want to make a living from and you're somewhat ambitious then yes, it does take time. Even if you follow some sort of passive income model, circumstances change from time to time, competitors appear or change marketing strategies, new opportunities come up, customers have questions/complaints, servers go down, etc. Sure, you can have virtual assistants to help you out or even run your own office locally (I've kind of done both, sort of) but then there's a whole bunch of new stuff to take into account: finding reliable assistants (particularly at the beginning), taking care of running costs, etc

However, if you find a level of income you feel comfortable with and head towards more of a passive income model, then you do have the chance to have much more free time than in most other businesses/jobs. Also, you usually have the opportunity to take days off according to your convinience, choose your working hours, etc

Now, I'm not judging either way to look at it. I'd just suggest you know what you're doing and adjust your expectations/goals to the level of dedication you're putting into it.

Cribking1:
Bro@jameskenneth, I am interested and have sent you a PM . Please reply!

Sorry, buddy. And sorry to everyone who tried to contact me in the last 24 hs. I couldn't post all day yesterday. Never new what the problem was, really. Had my hands full trying to figure this one out and solving a few problems at work.

Anyways, I just replied the mail.

slumcat:
Warning:
Don't be fooled guys. My prediction is that you will be directed to a 'partner' who will ask you to buy an e-product or ask you to pay before you're taught.
Don't pay nothing!.
Google and you'll find lots of information on CPA for free!.

Fair enough. You're absolutely right about being cautious. And yes, I offer those people who are getting in touch with me right now asking for mentoring (more than 10 people already) to contact a friend and partner of mine who introduced me to internet marketing, and who's been kind enough to accept and help me out. The reason being that I'm moving back from Argentina to Australia next month to start working offline in a completely different business (import-export).(That's the main reason I joined this forum in the first place, btw.) Sorry, I just don't have enough time to mentor anyone myself right now. I have too many things going on in my life these days. My friend, however, is the nicest, most honest guy I know and he'll be taking care of business for the next few months till I see how everything develops for me in Melbourne.

Having said that, I'll tell you all this:

- I do not sell an ebook, a course or anything of the sort. Neither does my friend. We don't use any sort of covert tactics.

- You're absolutely right about the fact that there's a wealth of information out there already (also lots of garbage, which is not that easy to distinguish from the good stuff when you're just starting out, but I digress...). I have said so myself in this very thread referring to the Warriors forum. In fact, I specifically adviced anyone against buying anything. I will repeat this again, this time referring to myself and my partner: DO NOT buy any ebook or course from us. It wouldn't be wise right now and I'll never ask you to. Now, know that you WILL need to invest into any business you decide to start at some point, but it won't be any ebook I'm selling, that's for sure.

- I've shared already in this forum enough info for anyone to get started (check my other posts).

- Also, as I said from the very beginning: Neither I nor my partner are into CPA right now. In fact ,I've never done it myself (he did, though, a few years back). We do affiliate marketing mainly and resell certain services to a few customers in the US and Europe, but that's it. We are in touch, however, with people who do this all the time; that's where the info comes from. By the way, you need to understand this: CPA is just a means to monetize traffic which doesn't requiere a product or service to be bought in order for the marketer to make a profit. True that there are a few things that are particular to this process, but the principles of marketing remain the same .In fact, it's not rare to offer customers both affiliate products and CPA offers at different times or even at different stages of the same funnel.

- Finally, the only reason I contribute to the forum and asked my friend to mentor anyone is to give back a bit, since this is my area of expertise and I remember what it was like not so long ago. (Sorry to blow my own horn here, but posts like THESE are part of the wealth of information freely available on the internet right now). Never tried to scam anyone .Never asked anyone for money or a mail. We just thought it would be productive for all of us to learn from each other and eventually cooperate amongst ourselves. The best professional relationships I've developed during all these years have started at forums. That's partly what forums are all about. Partners are MUCH more beneficial to anyone, both personally and financially, than customers. The same goes for being honest instead of trying to make a quick buck scamming people.

Anyways, sorry for the long post. And don't get me wrong, it's important that warnings and advice like slumcat's and opemite's are posted in this forum. I see there's lots of stuff going on here that wouldn't fly in other places. I'll just have to see the best way to contribute. Sorry if I offended anyone or broke any rules.

stanleyalpacino:
Goodday sir, from your post you sound like you have earned some cash on the internet legimatimately . pls I will love to contact you. I can't send PM on Nairalandand I don't know why. Thanks

Hi there. No problem. I'll send you a PM myself.

Iprofit:
Thank you so much for your quick response
I will contact you as soon as possible because I really need to get started with this online stuffs that is getting juicer by the day.

No problem, my friend.

Regards

Solobenny:
Please I'm interested, someone should teach me.

Sorry, forgot to answer you.

Just read my post above.

All the best.

Tosinex:
wow wow..this is such a brilliant blogging advice i personally have ever heard, sure it will have cost much to get this advice somewhere else, thanks a bunch Mr Jameskenneth, you're blessed Sir.

Hey, thank you very much. No problem.

BTW, here I leave you a link to another thread where I give a little more info on internet marketing. It's not exactly about blogging, but it still applies and I guess it could be useful to your friend: https://www.nairaland.com/3411165/here-really-earns-50-100#50249061

(Just search for my post down the line)

All the best.

Iprofit:
Please can you help with the affiliate marketing, I'm interested, just don't know how to get started. Things involved, step by step guide will be appreciated,

Thanks

I'm glad my contributions seem to be useful to some of you.

Like I said to those of you who have contacted me in the last couple of days, I can't personally mentor anyone right now. I'm moving back to Australia next month and I'll be working offline in the import export-business.

However, for those of you who are serious about getting started in the internet marketing business, I can introduce you to my partner, who's agreed to help those who ask. He's the guy who introduced me to affiliate marketing and a really straight up guy. Just click on my profile name and send me a private message saying you're interested.

If there's enough interest, I will also start a new thread regarding affiliate marketing and ask him to contribute. I don't want to break any rules here by hijacking this thread.

Thank you very much and all the best to you.

hspda:
You are spot on bro. How can I contact you please

Thank you, buddy.

PM me anytime. I'll get in touch with you as soon as I can.

kentochi:
thanks for your time bro

No problem, my friend. Any time.

kentochi:
not possible

Not only is it possible, it happens everyday. Just consider targeted traffic is abundant around the internet. It's just a matter of connecting it to a converting landing page leading to the right offer, and know where to get that traffic at the right price. Been doing it with affiliate marketing for a while now, and know plenty of people doing it with CPA.

Consider this: You can buy advertising space on pages with hundreds of thousands of pageviews per day and link to a cpa offer tailored to that niche; or pay $30- 50$ /month and have a link in the description of a super-popular Youtube video (thousands of views a day) and redirect to the right cpa offer (back in the day, ringtone offers where the thing, though not as much anymore); or get in the way of the latest trend (say, the next big football match between Barcelona and Real Madrid) and offer some streaming software - more of an affiliate offer, but you get the point. Also, you could build lists or forums offering coupons and all sorts of giveaways; there you have a captive audience that you can target again and again. Besides, think globally. There are millions of people around the world interested in the most bizarre niches, and you can have access to them if you know how to do it.

I won't get into too much detail here, because it's not the place and again, cpa is not my thing right now. However, I can tell you a couple of things that I guess will be of use to many of you for whatever it is you're planning to do related to internet marketing:

- First: go to reputed, global internet marketing forums (Warriors forum comes to mind; never been in love with it though). Just DO NOT buy anything right away, nor do you spend 12 hours a day just reading the latest threads. DO however get some information and try to determine who are the most experienced, reputed guys over there, and what it is they're doing (not just what they're saying). Subscribe to their lists, study their promotions and sites, etc

- Try to reverse-engineer profitable campaigns. This is very important, and not many people do it when they first start. This is what I mean: Find a popular product or offer ( try clickbank, Amazon, JVZOO for affiliate offers, or just google your favorite niche, access a few of the top 10 results, and see what's being advertised there). Now use tools like similarweb.com, semrush and determine where the traffic is comming from -these ones are free, with a paid version-. Finally, try and grab the same or similar traffic spots (advertise in the same place, try to build a page that outranks your competitors' or guest post in the same site or blog, etc).

Here's a PRO tip: There are "spying" tools for CPA that let you know what offer has been running on which site, and for how long. You can get data on the banners or text ads used, which were the most effective ones, etc. This info is gold. The best one of these tools is arguably WhatRunsWhere, but there are others. I think there's still some sort of trial period for WRW.

-Finally, once you make a few conversions, don't hesitate to ask your affiliate manager or contact the seller of the product you're advertising. They're very much interested in you doing well your job, as they both profit from it as well. You can ask for the most effective promotional tactics or even ask for some tailored landing page when the time comes. Just don't do it right away. Wait until you have a few sales under your belt (before contacting the sellers, that is)

Good luck to all.

Tosinex:
ok, Mr. JamesKenneth, i have spoken at length to this my friend especially on the blogging part, actually his career lies in the music path, and he wonders what he will be blogging about but i have tried to make him see so many ways he can be blogging on music. I tried to advice him not to give up on his career because anything can happen at any time. Thank you so much for the advice and the love you showed, may the Good Lord continue to be at your side sir.

No problem, my friend.

Sure, there are plenty of subjects related to music he could blog about. I'd give him a bit of advice though on how to find them, if you don't mind.

- First, I'd visit a few of the most popular forums related to music. There I'd try to determine what the most popular subjects are, which are the most common questions other people have, etc.

- Then, I'd go to Amazon and check the most popular books in this niche. Also, I'd check the best-sellers for magazines on the subject. (You bet if someone is running an offline publication on a regular basis, there are readers and advertisers there)

- After that, I'd use the adwords keywords tool here https://adwords.google.com/KeywordPlanner (don't worry, it's free, you just have to sign in) and check exact match searches for the most popular subjects you found in the 2 steps above. Also, I'd go to Google (Google.com, Google.uk; not just Google.com.ng) and check how many websites appear in the first 10 results which have these subjects in the title and url. Obviously, the less optimized results, the better.

- Finally I'd make 10 posts around the best evergreen subjects found. I'd put the keywords in the title and make sure it appears in the url and a couple of times (not more) in the body. Make these 10 articles about 1500 words each; after that they can be shorter. From then on, I'd keep on reading what's being asked in forums, magazines, etc. for new ideas.

You can always monetize with adsense or affiliate products from Clickbank.com. Also, see what other folks in the niche are already doing! That's a great way to come up with ideas for blog posts and products - not saying he should copy, just use it to fuel his own creative process.

Anyways, there's plenty more, but this is a simple version anyone with enough commitment and a little knowledge can follow.

The best of luck to you both.

Tosinex:
What he actually needed most to pave way and expand is carrier is the financial and personnel resources. He has not his own family yet, and he lamented his income source is inadequate. Sir,you suggested other source of income, i will throw that to him too, but i dont know if you have any idea of this online income source you might like to enlighten him about...or any other advice.

First of all, let me tell you I admire your friend for pursuing his passion, even under difficult circumstances. Being young (as I understand he is) and having no family depending upon him, sometimes makes it all a bit easier. At this stage, you tend to have more time at your disposal and you're pretty much the only one directly affected by the consequences of your decisions (at least financially, that is).

Regarding the online income part, there are many venues he can persue. Personally, I started doing affiliate marketing through PPC almost 10 years ago and I eventually pulled it off, but I wouldn't recommend him going that route. In fact, I wouldn't advice him to start investing money he doesn't have yet.

If I were him, I'd make a few bucks for free and then re-invest that into my own business and scale. As long as there's a bit of potential, I'd tell him to start by blogging about something he loves and knows about (maybe something related to his career, which would also help him develop relationships for later on ). I'd use Wordpress to build the blog, as it's SEO friendly and there are plenty of add-ons going out everyday; a free, clean theme would be enough at this point. A domain and reliable hosting would be the only expenses, and they're pretty cheap. Otherwise, a free platform like Blogger or Tumblr would do the trick for starters. I'd use my blog to build a list using free promotional methods (forums, social, guest blogging, to name but a few). Mailchimp - an autoresponder- used to have a free trial and deliverability was pretty good - I'd have to check on that now. I'd start monetizing with affiliate products or adsense (I'd leave building my own products for later on). In any case, developing a strategy is a good thing, but I'd advice your friend not to overdo it and fall into paralysis out of fear and uncertainty. Money will start rolling in in a few months, maybe sooner.

In any case, this is just ONE way to go that I know for a fact that works. Again, I don't know the specifics of your friend's situation, so I can't go into more details here. Also, he should know there are plenty of details to take care of as there would be with any business, but he should rest assured none of these potential problems are insurmountable, as long as he's willing to put some time and effort into it.

If I can help your friend in any other way just ask, or tell him to feel free and contact me by mail any time.

The best of luck to you both.

A word of advice: Try to have a solid plan on what the main source of your income will be once you get there. Plan ahead; time and money fly very quickly, particularly when you're under pressure to pay the bills.

In any case, the best of luck to you.

I guess there are many things to consider, such as his personal and financial situation, the amount of resources needed, etc. In any case, I would personally make sure I have enough resources to fund my basic needs (as well as my family's), and proceed from then on.

Also, it would be a good idea to try an redesign his personal budget in order to better utilize funds already at hand.There are many ways in which he can make a living online as well, without the need of huge investments of neither time nor money. This way he could just make all the process self-sustainable.

Anyways, as I mentioned before, it would all depend on the specifics of your friend's situation.

Good luck!