₦airaland Forum

kanmosyl:
@Ufobabe,
Thats wrong how will u say stealing is better than prostitution
none of them is good, will u be happy if your wife or husband steal something
from the same shop u both are shopping together or he or she came to your office on
a visit and to later find out that the missing pen is in his or her pocket.

@poster,
Ask God for help, im so sure it must be a spiritual problem.

Stealing is a moral issue, not spiritual. I think.

I find it sad that people often wish to genderise issues to the point where they now make the next gender appear silly or stupid or both. Anyway, as far as gossip goes, its a cross-gender malaise. Saying only women gossip is like saying only women are gold diggers. In fact, most of the most damaging gossip I have ever heard has come from men. I have loads of male friends so I know what I'm talking about.

So for me, the real question would probably be 'Why do people gossip atall?' but I guess I should make that another thread shouldnt I? lol.

Dear Orikinla,

b]Have you ever listened to the Yoruba parables and proverbs in Ebenezer Obey's songs of the 1970s and '80s?[/b]

In changing the world, you and I have got to start with 'the man in the mirror', like Michael Jackson advised. And as for your Yoruba parables and Ebenezer Obey's proverbs, no I havent ever listened to them directly nor do I ever intend to. I have grown up on other [and I'm sure similar] proverbs including the ones of the Bible and they have done a good job with me, thank you.

b]Whether you call it crap, crab or whatever, you are entitled to your own level of common sense.[/b]

As indeed you are, like I insinuated earlier.


The fact is what matters most is the realities of our daily life in Nigeria.

True, which is why I fault your post. Our realities in Nigeria are more serious than your grouse with ladies 'who now mistake lust for love'. You may not hear or read the lameness in what you said but I wouldnt expect you to. With all the encomiums you shower on yourself, I would consider it almost impossible for you to take a step back and view your opinion again let alone accept that it isnt the most novel or intelligent of ideas either. No, heaven forfend it. So like you yoruba pple say, 'go on so'un'.

b]The post simply put, says Nigerian girls and ladies are more noble and worthy to be mere sex objects. [/b]

No it doesnt. Simply put, the post is a self-righteous way of saying, 'I have my head screwed on tight, but Ngerisn Girls don't. Otherwise why would you be so tactless as to actually use figures like 99 percent? With all your intelligence which you are determined to show forth, don't you think it wouldve been better to NOT make genralistic statements. If you have specific issues, state them, instead of just going off on a tangent.


And in anycase, I think that any person can view any Nigerian girl as whatsoever he or she likes, but that doesnt change the fact that in this country, there exist women of virtue [aprt from your First Bank friend] who are striving to make it to the top without exchanging their honour. But of course, you wouldnt think so now, would you? After all, Dora Akunyili and your First Banker are the only women worthy of note .

They should stop being unscruplous seducers.

As against 'scrupulous seducers'? I don't believe this!lol!

As I said earlier, I am very happy in my relationships locally and internationally. And my two sisters who are happily married and very very comfortable with healthy children agreed with every word of knowledge in my post. And from Rivers State to Abia State, we are okay.

Your family status is your own business, don't you think? Declaration of the very very comfortable-'ness' of your sisters is quite unecessary to this discussion, and so is your family location spread. Please, make sense, na beg i dey beg.

1. The fact is, as you noticed from my replies, I have more Pan African matters to address than indulge in petty exchange of personalities with those who hide behind a PC online and post anything they like.

No I didnt notice this. Where? In the Pat Etteh reference? Or the Dora Akunyili one? which?


2. Orikinla is not a fake ID, it is my pen name and a notable one for that matter from Nigeria to Sudan to South Africa to Malaysia.

Who said your I.D was fake? Hey, na wa o, this is getting more interesting. See, let me asure you that nobody gives a flip about your popularity, real or imagined. See me see point of argument. lol.

3. I am a very fortunate and highly favoured Nigerian writer and I have no issues with women.

Who are you trying to convince, me or urself? And what pray tel, has this [as with some of your other pointless points] got to do with anything?

As for having or not having issues with women and the relationship of that to your Nigerian writer status, I daresay that the two things are not mutually exclusive. Just so you know, you don't have to be a highly-UNfavoured Nigerian writer to have issues with women. Capisce?

From what the whole world saw the other day on AIT as the so called Nigerian honorable representatives jumped up and down tables to exchange blows over Patricia Ette's Scandal, I am not surprised to read some troublesome posters.
It is a Nigerian problem.

I disagree that there is any such thing as 'a Nigerian problem'. Most problems or challenges are common to the whole world, whether they be more diminished in some places than others. It's pretty much like saying thay 'corruption' or 'internet fraud' is a Nigerian problem. So, no, troublesome posters and parlimentiary fights are not a Nigerian reserve. Get your facts straight amigo.

God will heal us all!

Amen brother, I second that. Amen.


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I dont know if there are health implications to shaving totally, but i do it sometimes. but you and I know that the discomfort level is out of this world! So its more advisable to do a very low haircut [lol] instead of gorimapa or afari!

yes, i can allow my bf to take nude fotos of me, or us. BUT!!! after we have had our viewing pleasure, we shall delete the pics pronto. Why? I dont trust technology. Codes can be broken and files entered into. Besides it'll make me sleep better at night knowing that my vendor wont wake me up with a copy of Daily Sun, with yours sincerely as the cover model. Ah! whither goeth my bride price then?! lol.

1. She may have been two timing you [or the other guy depending on who she started seeing first] and then when she had to make a choice, she looked at all her variables and voila, went with Mr. Rival.

Seeing as this is neither here nor there anyway, since your q is whether u should take her back [abi?], then:

2. She may have realised that its you she truly loves afterall.  No matter what some people think, the human heart isnt totally bad. We may generalise all we like but the truth remains that on a tree, there will be good fruits and bad fruits; its what makes the world go round. In which case taking her back isnt such a bad idea esp if you still love her.

3. She may not be worth the trouble anyhow, because maybe she's just looking your way now because the other guy gave her tha dumping. Its a maybe o, not a definite. in which case she'd better be left alone.

Altogether, just follow your heart. It may lead you astray but then again, it may lead you aright; we never know. Life is worth the gamble my dear. You can take this with you:

Revenge is pointless; a further waste of your time. if you don't want to be with her, let her go. You will suffer more ifyou try the revenge thing. You don't have to take my word for it though, afterall we learn from our mistakes [even when we can simply take good advice or learn fromt he errors of others]!

I dont know if this is about reciprocal tendencies. Methinks that a guy is romantic if he is; it scarcely has anything to do with if the other party is romantic.

Anyway, one night i was hungry but too lazy to go into the kitchen cos i had returned home really late. There was this guy who'd been on mycase for a while and so called me every night before bed. He called and when I was lamenting about my hunger and laziness to cook he offered to share his dinner with me. It was almost midnight and there was no light so everywhere was really dark but he drove to my house with a plate of beans and dodo.

He turned out to be a real schmock and we never dated, but as far as it goes, I consider that the most romantic [or in the case of most Nigerian men, I'd rather use the word 'thoughtful'] thing that a guy has done for me. I've received seemingly bigger favours and all of that, but really for me, its the little things that count.

Windywendy,whoever you are, you certainly spoke my mind. But I will add this:

Orikinla, let me just say that the advice u gave is the equivalent of a lame movie: pedestrian, full of cliches and terribly generalistic. What are u asking for? a perfect country or world at that where all the girls would marry for love and not lust? Or still, where all of a sudden, voila, everyone would now realise the difference between love and lust, [as if its rocket science]?!

I am new here but from the sycophantic praise some peeps here have been giving u, it is clear that some pple hold you in high esteem. Good for them. But really, you havent said anything strikingly intelligent or mindblowingly enlightening. Hell you sound like some chic broke your heart or something. Thats usually when boys gather together and talk about how 'girls never know the difference btw true love and lust' and all that type of loser talk.

And please, lose the chauvinism. It makes your text sound vindictive and even lamer than if you were unbiased. Go easy on the self righteous-ness. I'm a christian and I know the maxim about the casting of stones. Just don't do it.

Again, when you drop off stats like '99 percent of Nigerian girls bla-bla-bla', you make yourself sound incredible. Where did you get the figures? who did the polls? For me, generalization kills an argument even if it is valid. So I won't even argue with you, I'll just say that since you are now a reformer, and [paraphrasing you of course] you would like to help all the girls out there who are living in sin, then go ahead. Preach your message, but don't think youve made any difference. No siree. Not even a dent.

To all those who are saying 'will they listen?' and all such other superiority-complex induced malarkey, let me just remind you that [wo]man is a free moral agent. You cannot force your morality on others. Hold fast to your beliefs but you know, God sees through it all. Sit there and type all the blarney you want but at the end of our lives' roads, una go take tongue count teeth. Self righteousness is as bad as hypocrisy.

No matter what Orikinla and his friends say or do, maligning the female folk will not change nada. It just reminds us that in a world where we have more serious things to think and talk about, some pple will always go the blame route - point at others and the world will be just fine, ignore the real issues; poverty, stiffling economy, lack of education etc, but lambast the female folk and voila, you have made a social difference! Genderisation is a cop out, if you have something to say, say it without coloring it with ur personal grouse with women.

Crap, if ive ever read it. But like we all know, freedom of expression is our God given right especially when its on cyberspace, lol! So, enjoy.