European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 4:39pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
nihilistjnr: As far as you agree, then all good by me 
I've already proven how Gerrard > The asthmatic midget  Influential is not better, So I don't see how you have proven anything, Unless you mean something else. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 3:54pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
nihilistjnr: Who said I don't agree with his view?
I 'm just correcting you because clearly you didnt read what he said.
Mourinho said based on titles won, Hazard had a better season than Ronaldo in 14/15, and of course I agree.. Influential doesn't mean better, So I agree |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 2:36pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
nihilistjnr: If you even bothered to read what Mourinho said, you wouldn't be arguing so blindly
This is what Mourinho said
So i'm no sure why you're quoting stats, when Mourinho himself said he was looking at it from a titles perspective
If you can't even follow a simple argument that Mourinho made, are you sure you're qualified to question Ferguson?  According to hensben, Football is not lawn tennis. "Hazard had a better season than Ronaldo" - Mourinho, stating that it was his personal view. Nihilist, do you agree? If you can't agree with your greatest ever manager's personal view, why should I agree with mine's Nihilist? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 2:20pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
nihilistjnr: Btw what Mourinho said was that Hazard had a better season than ororo in 14/15.... "48 goals in just 35 league appearances, also contributing 16 assists. He was therefore directly involved in a goal every 48 minutes he played. Comparatively, Hazard scored 14 goals and provided nine assists in his 38 appearances, recording an involvement in a Chelsea goal every 147 minutes" So do you agree? If you are finding it difficult to agree with your greatest ever manager, why should I agree with mine though? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 2:03pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
nihilistjnr: Is Mourinho greater than Ferguson? Is Ferguson Chelsea's greatest ever manager? Your greatest ever manager while he was at Chelsea said Hazard is on the same level as Ronaldo, Do you agree? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 1:54pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
nihilistjnr: Had Kyle Walker won EPL before he joined Man City? Had Suarez won UCL before he joined Barca? Had Pogba joined Europa before he joined Manyoo?
Does Gerrard have to have won UCL before he could improve the team?
Your manager was offering Gerrard a 7 yeard contract years before the guy even won UCL, so i dont know why a simple statement like Gerrard might have helped Manyoo do better in UCL seems to be confusing you
Scholes played in a better team than Gerrard throughout their entire career so that means nothing. When they played together for England, it was Scholes that was chased away...and dont pretend you didnt just see Scholes Manager call Gerrard the most influential player in England, when Scholes was still at manyoo. Your greatest ever manager once said Hazard is on the same level as Ronaldo, Do you agree? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 1:43pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
nihilistjnr: That's still a 1 in 2 success rate so I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove.
At the time sef, Scholes was a UCL winner, and Gerrard had not yet won the competition, whan Ferguson called him the most influential player in England.
Ferguson is a club legend and the most successful manager in the history of your club - I will take his opinion over yours any day "who knows...maybe if he was able to sign Gerrard, they might have done better in UCL." So how is it that we might have done better in the Uefa Champions League with Steve in the team? When he had the same win ratio of 1 in 2? With Liverpool? How would he have made United better in the Champions League? Taking away the number of times both won it, United with scholes played in 4 finals while Liverpool with Steve played in 2 finals, in the space of 13 years Scholes had already been to 4 finals, Steve 2, while one was being brought out of retirement to help win the league, the other was struggling to make top 4 and slipping away the title 3 years after the former retired. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 1:21pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
afrodoc2: Lol it has never slipped Gerrard’s memory.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 1:18pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
nihilistjnr: That's the same win ratio of 1 in 2 
Maybe with Gerrard on the roster, it could have been 3 in 4.
Ferguson was begging Gerrard for a reason. 
My agent, Struan Marshall, told me that, under Fergie, United had a decent pop at trying to sign me. Gary Neville would knock at my door during England camps. “He’d come in for a chat and let me know how much United would love me to play for them. Gary told me Fergie had sent him.” - Steven Gerrard Playing in 4 finals and winning 2 Playing in 2 finals and winning 1 I sure do know what "Better in the Champions League" is. It seems afrodoc has got this handled, so I will leave you two. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 1:15pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
afrodoc2: We should also not forget the numerous EPL titles Scholes helped Man Utd win and the one Gerrard helped Liverpool lose. Not forgetting the one that "slipped" away |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jemi7: 12:40pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
nihilistjnr: who knows...maybe if he was able to sign Gerrard, they might have done better in UCL. With scholes, he had two and playing in 4 finals, Liverpool with Steve had one playing in two finals |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jemi7: 6:29pm On Oct 15, 2018 |
elampiro: How are the English league fairing in the UCL? So the fatigue disappeared in the premier league and magically appeared to disturb them in the Champions League that starts a month after the league starts? You Know ball die. Okalamwo Okalamwo |
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