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 Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Authority - Andrew Wommack by jiggaz(op): 6:34am On Oct 22, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: These Are The Reasons Why I Left Christianity by jiggaz(m): 6:18am On Oct 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:Look lemme tell you something, Christ does not lose His own. Sometimes, people think they are Believers in Christ just because they were born into a Christian home or because the parents are Christians? No way!! It doesn't happen that way.... Its a personal decision to put your whole trust in Christ for your salvation. Besides, i have noticed that every tom, dick and harry on Nairaland always wake up and narrate how they left Christianity after being strong believers. Aren't you ATHEISTS tired of this little game? Just like that other frustrated Atheist named Hard *something*. Look, nobody is forcing anyone to become a believer in Christ. My policy in life is Live and lets live, life goes on. But you atheists dont seem to understand that, all you people do here is WAIL like the WAILING WAILERS THAT YOU ARE!!! Whether you dont believe in God or you blaspheme Christ Jesus, it doesn't change the fact that Jesus is Lord and it wont stop His Second Coming to this world. Left to me, i always ignore you people cos i don't like arguing, i leave everyone to their own belief. But sometimes, i need to correct some obvious fallacies that you Athiests always make up here...... The OP was never a Believer in Christ to begin with!! You can take that to the bank and cash it!! Years back, there was a time i was secretly angry with God because of wrong beliefs and i wasn't attending church & being close to God, but yet i still believed in Christ and couldn't dare to blaspheme Him like your so called friends do here!! Read my lips, JESUS CHRIST DOES NOT LOSE HIS OWN. If they left us, that means they didn't belong to us in the first place. A true Believer in Christ can have moments when he/she might be far from God but at the end, God will still bring them back because of His promises to us. What amuses me is that spiritually, ATHEISTS ARE DEAD & BLIND. You guys claim to have knowledge and i laugh, are you more knowledgeable than i am? Because this is a faceless forum? Upon all my knowledge and exposure, i still bow to Christ, you can do the same. Christ is the ultimate. Anyone that rejects Christ is spiritually dead and if you die in that state, OYO is your own. I don't condemn you people, i can never do that cos Christ might still use any one of u in the future for His glory..... But please tell your fellow Atheists to stop the WAILING WAILERS GAME!! Its so appalling!! Haba!! The OP was just a church goer who thinks he was a believer becos his parents were Christians, he even said it himself. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Authority - Andrew Wommack by jiggaz(op): 8:00pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Spiritual Authority - Andrew Wommack by jiggaz(op): 7:31pm On Oct 21, 2016*. Modified: 6:30pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
Please take a minute to read this letter I recently received from a 19-year-old girl. Dear Mr. Wommack, I realize that you must receive frequent letters regarding your ministry. But even with that knowledge, I feel compelled to write. I’ve just finished listening to your audio series entitled “Spiritual Authority,” and it has changed my life. When I was in junior high, I became involved in Wicca, or Paganism. For two- and-a-half years I toyed with the powers of Satan, calling on numerous demons to do my bidding. Not only was I demon possessed, but I was heavily into drugs and alcohol. A few months before I became a Christian, I began to realize that I was no longer in control. In fact, I was the one being controlled. My free will was so entangled with Satan’s deception that I lost the ability to think for myself. On August 29, 1996, I accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior. At the moment I confessed my sin and gave my life to God, He delivered me from the demons, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, and sexual relationships I was involved in. I thought I was rid of Satan’s power for good. It wasn’t long before fear started to overcome me. The demons I once fellowshipped with tormented me day and night. I could see them in the corner of my room while I was trying to sleep. When I was outside at night, I could feel their presence. After a while, I began to cope with it, and it became an everyday part of my life. I knew they couldn’t touch me, but I was terrified nonetheless. Almost four years after my conversion, I was still dealing with these demonic forces. It was only when I listened to your series that I understood the power and authority I have over them. Instead of literally hiding under my blankets at night for fear of the demon in the corner of my room, I smile, say a quick prayer of praise to God, and fall asleep. Your illustration of how we sometimes picture demons was of particular interest to me. You say that we picture them as towering beasts with claws and such, when in reality they are sniveling, little things. That is so true! The only power they have is the power we give them. What a blessing to finally realize that! My outlook on life has totally changed, thanks to your willingness to be used of God. If it were not for the godly truths of your ministry, I would still be enslaved by my fear. I am now actively pursuing the calling God placed on my life, a calling to ministry. I am excited and anxious for the future and the things that God will be able to accomplish through my obedience. My Christian walk is stronger than ever before, and my friends constantly ask what’s different about me. They don’t seem to grasp that a nineteen-year-old can be so in love with God that it’s physically evident. Again I thank you for your willingness to step out in faith and be used of God. God, through you, has touched my life and, I’m sure, the lives of countless others. I’m looking forward to listening to your other teachings. Tori from PA Isn’t that awesome! Praise the Lord for the power of the truth and how it sets us free (John 8:32). The only power that Satan has is the power of deception, and the worst thing about deception is that you don’t know you’re being deceived. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be deception. Once the truth is received, deception loses all its power. Therefore, Satan loses all his power when we know the truth. Many people don’t know the truth about Satan’s defeat. In fact, many Christians are the very instrument the devil is using to foster the deception that he is still a powerful foe. “Spiritual warfare” is one of the hottest topics in the church today. People are expending great amounts of energy constantly battling the devil in ways contrary to Scripture, but in reality, Satan has already been defeated. We don’t need to defeat him again. We need to believe that Satan has already been completely destroyed (Heb. 2:14) and simply enforce his defeat. The only power he has is the power to deceive. Our battle should be against the wiles (trickery) of the devil (Eph. 6:11), not the devil himself. Any other approach is actually giving the devil authority and power which he doesn’t have, and he uses that to intimidate us. The only weapon Satan has is the power we give him when we believe his lies. Warfare only takes place between two undefeated foes. Once an enemy has been conquered, the war is over. Satan is a defeated foe. Colossians 2:15 says, “And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.” The archaic meaning of the word “spoiled” here is “to plunder; despoil” (American Heritage Dictionary). This means that after Jesus defeated Satan, He stripped him of everything he had, specifically the keys of death and hell (Rev. 1:18). Satan has no power to imprison anyone. The Greek word that was translated “shew” in this verse (Col 2:15) is “deigmatizo” which means “to exhibit” (Strong). This comes from the root word “deigma” which means “a specimen (as shown)” ( ibid. ). Satan is like one of those bugs we had to capture for biology class. We caught it and then impaled it on a board with a little pin to exhibit it. You need to picture the devil nailed to the cross of Jesus like a bug on display. Hallelujah! Take that, Mr. Devil! The Greek word that was translated “triumphing over” in Colossians 2:15 is especially significant. It means “to make an acclamatory procession” (ibid.). This is specifically referring to the way the Romans had a “triumphant procession” after they had defeated their enemies. Upon conquering an enemy, the Romans would hold a parade. They would take the conquered king, strip him naked, and drag him through the crowd behind the conquering king or commander for all their subjects to see. He would be humiliated and insulted, but that’s not all. They would also cut off the thumbs of his hands and the big toes of both feet. This was to assure the subjects this enemy would never be a threat to any of them again. He could not hold a sword and he would never be able to run again. There was no need to fear him any more. Any rumor about him ever challenging Rome again would be scoffed at because the citizens had seen him in the parade. The same thing happened to the devil. That’s what this verse is referring to. Jesus not only beat the devil, but He had a triumphant procession to display the devil to the universe as a totally conquered foe. Satan should never terrify us again. Unfortunately, many Christians have missed the parade. They haven’t seen God’s triumphant procession that was pictured in God’s Word where Satan was displayed as a totally defeated foe. They are circulating rumors that Satan is a powerful foe to be reckoned with. That’s not so. Satan is still alive, and we do have to reckon with him but only because he has so many lies circulating about his power against us. These are all lies, and therein lies Satan’s power. If we believe his lies, he then uses our own authority, which our fear grants him, to work his destruction in our lives. He has no power of his own. He’s using the power and authority that our misdirected faith gives him. When I was just beginning my walk with the Lord, I came into the knowledge that demons do exist, and they are not all in Africa. We encounter demons often, and they are the workers of much of the evil we see every day. At first, this caused a fear in me that actually gave these demons in-roads into my life. On one hand, I was resisting them, but through fear I was also empowering them. An example of this happened to me in Arlington, Texas, where I grew up. I was in love with the Lord and wanting to minister to people. I decided to open up what I called “Arlington Christian Center.” It was going to be a home where people who were being controlled by things like alcohol, drugs, sex, etc. could come and stay while we broke the power of the devil over them and helped set them free. I rented a two-story house, right on the edge of the University of Texas at Arlington campus, and started fixing it up. This house had been a fraternity house, and there had been a lot of demonic activity in the house prior to our occupancy. The people were gone, but not all the demons were. There were some strange things about that place. One night I was working up there at 1 a.m., and some demons attacked me. There was no one in that house except me, but I was being hit and choked, and I was fighting for my life. I ran out of that house and got in my car and backed out of the driveway. I was ready to “burn rubber” and get as far away from there as possible. Just before I got the car into drive, I heard the Lord say to me, “What are you doing?” I told Him I was getting away from that place as fast as I could. He then reminded me of the Christian’s armor that was described in Ephesians 6:10-18, and He said, “There isn’t any armor to cover your back.” I knew what He meant. He was saying that the armor He had given me only worked when I faced the devil, not if I turned and ran. I thought, Lord, You couldn’t want me to go back into that place and face those devils. He never said anything else to me. I pulled back into the driveway and thought about that for what seemed to be an eternity. Finally, I got out of the car and walked back into that house. I spent the rest of the night fighting off fear and those physical attacks of the devil. When I left in the morning, the demons were gone, and there was a supernatural peace in that place. During that time, I had a lot of demonic attacks against me. I had dreams where demons would attack me, and I would wake up bleeding from those encounters. They weren’t just in my mind. I was being physically attacked. That also happened one night in Louisiana at a Bible conference. It felt like I was being choked to death. I won, but these demonic encounters were not fun. Then one day as I was praying and binding every demon on every continent, it dawned on my lightning-fast mind that I was actually spending more time in my prayers talking to the devil and rebuking him than I was talking to the Lord. I knew that wasn’t right. The Lord began to reveal to me that all my attention on the devil was actually giving him these in-roads into my life, which caused all these attacks. I repented and changed my thinking and focus and guess what? It’s now been at least thirty years, and I have never had another demonic manifestation in my life. I have seen demons manifest around me in other people, and I’ve cast them out, but those personal attacks stopped nearly instantly. There has never been another one because the only reason Satan’s imps were able to manifest like that to me in the first place was because of the fear I released toward them. The fear is gone, and therefore, so is their power. This is an awesome revelation and one that is not the dominant theological position on Satan and demons today. This truth desperately needs to be communicated throughout the body of Christ. http://www.awmi.net/reading/teaching-articles/spiritual_authority/ 7 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 1 Peter 4:17 : Its Judgement Time!! - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 1:07pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Correction : Old Versus New - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 12:56pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Know I'm Saved? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 12:55pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Hebrews 12:6 Does God Scourge His Kids? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 12:54pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Does God Scourge Us? 7 Reasons To Say No!! - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:02pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Much of what we believe about discipline in the church is informed by the old covenant. For instance, if you think God’s discipline entails punishment in any shape or form, you’re living in the past. You haven’t seen the cross (Is 53:5). Think about it. If the cross was the once and final solution for sin Hebrews says it is, then you would not expect to find any scriptures in the new covenant linking sin with divine punishment. And indeed, there are none – except this one: For those whom the Lord loves he disciplines, and he scourges every son whom he receives. (Heb 12:6, NASB) As we saw in our last post , this may be a badly mangled New Testament quote of an Old Testament proverb. It’s like reading Martin Luther King’s I have a dream speech in Chinese and finding the last line says, “Thank God almighty, we are not free at all!” It’s jarring, it’s wrong, and it runs totally against the context. Am I saying the Bible is wrong? No, we don’t have to go that far. As I explained last time, my best guess is the problem was introduced during translation. I am convinced that the author of Hebrews had a profound revelation of God with-no-whip. The picture he gives us is of a good God sitting on a throne of grace offering us grace and mercy in our time of need (Heb 4:16). And when we go astray – what happens then? Does God come charging after us with a whip? No, he deals with us gently (Heb 5:2) as a loving father deals with his sons (Heb 12:  . The suggestion that God metaphorically rips shreds off us with a flagellum is slanderous and ridiculous.To help you settle this in your own mind, I want to give you … 7 reasons why God never scourges his children 1. In the Bible, the word for scourge (mastigoō ) appears in 7 times in 7 verses. In every verse apart from Hebrews 12:6 it is associated with unjust punishment inflicted by the unjust upon the just – either Jesus (Mt 20:19, Mar 10:34, Lu 18:33, Joh 19:1) or those who follow him (Mat 10:7, 23:34). Given this context, to say that a God scourges his sons implies that God acts like the unjust, which he doesn’t. 2. The context of Hebrews 12 is being persecuted for the faith (see Hebrews 11). There is something twisted in telling a group of believers facing the threat of scourging that God is the one scourging them. The author writes to encourage them (Heb 12:3,5). Hearing that God is the one persecuting you is not encouraging. It’s discouraging. It doesn’t fit the context. 3. Nor does it make any sense. If God scourges us then the hurts of Heb 12:11 are the hurts of his scourging. But the actual hurts being experienced were the hurts of persecution, not sickness or anything you might wrongly accuse God of giving you. Believers have always been persecuted for the gospel and sometimes that persecution takes the form of flogging (see Heb 11:36). To read Heb 12:6 as scourging is like saying, “God is punishing you for believing in him.” 4. In Biblical times, scourging was reserved for slaves and criminals, not sons and citizens. Jesus and Paul were both unjustly scourged. Paul never says, “I was scourged for my good.” Instead, he resisted scourging (Acts 22:25), as should every free man and woman. 5. Hebrews 12 says God disciplines or trains us as a father. I don’t know any father, good or bad, who scourges his kids the way the Romans scourged Jesus. It’s a metaphor that doesn’t apply at any level. God doesn’t train us with whips. He nurtures us. The Biblical picture of godly fathering is this: “And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord” (Eph 6:4, KJV). Scourging is not nurturing. 6. There was one father in the Bible who was famous for using whips and rods, and that was Solomon. We know he used the rod of correction because he tells us in Proverbs (13:24, 22:15, 23:14-15, 29:15). Solomon evidently had old-school views regarding corporal punishment yet even he didn’t whip his sons. He said whips were for horses (Prov 26:3). I’ve had people tell me they won’t respond to God unless he whips them. That’s like saying, “I’m as dumb as a horse.” 7. Jesus met plenty of people in need of correction and discipline. How many of those people did Jesus scourge? How many did he afflict with pain, sickness, trials, or suffering? Zero. If Jesus was ever going to whip someone, he might’ve whipped the Pharisees, but he didn’t. He even said the Pharisees belonged to their father the devil (Joh 8:44). If God won’t scourge the devil’s kids, he surely won’t whip his own. The terrifying God of Hebrews There are 303 verses in Hebrews and, in my opinion, 99.7% of them were translated into Greek more or less accurately. Why am I so worked up about one solitary verb? Because a whip-toting monster-of-a-god has been created on the basis of that one verb! God is dangerous enough without us adding to the Bible. For those who reject his grace Hebrews describes him as a “consuming fire” (Heb 12:29), and warns that “it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God” (Heb 10:31). Am I trying to balance my words by painting God as both loving and terrifying, as though he were double-minded? No – I’m saying that a perfect God cannot coexist with imperfect man and the only way we can relate to him is through his free and perfect grace. Those who try to approach God on their own imperfect merits will find him unaccommodating and consequently terrifying. The Hebrews of old knew this – they had seen this consuming God at the untouchable Mount Sinai when the old covenant was given. They were terrified and wouldn’t draw near. But we have not returned to Mount Sinai. We have come to Mount Zion and to Jesus the mediator of a new and better covenant (Heb 12:24). To make sense of Hebrews, you need to understand that it sends two messages to two kinds of people. (i) For those uncertain about the grace of God, the message is: “See to it that you don’t refuse the one who speaks” (Heb 12:25). Through the book of Hebrews God draws the ungodly to himself, urging them to abandon the sinking ship of self-sufficiency and to enter his rest. (ii) For those who have already entered, the message is “Draw near – approach the throne of grace with confidence” (Heb 4:14). But the ungodly won’t come in and the saint won’t draw near if they believe God is waiting for them with a whip of scourging. That is not the gospel and it is not the message of Hebrews. https://escapetoreality.org/2013/06/18/does-god-scourge-us/ 4 Likes 5 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Know I'm Saved? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:28am On Oct 20, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Hebrews 12:6 Does God Scourge His Kids? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:26am On Oct 20, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Believing In Vain ( 1 Corinthians 15:2) - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:21am On Oct 20, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Believing In Vain ( 1 Corinthians 15:2) - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 9:24pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Know I'm Saved? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 9:22pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Hebrews 12:6 Does God Scourge His Kids? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:32pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Everyone has a mental picture of God. Perhaps you think he is distant, aloof, angry, even terrifying. Possibly you envision him holding a whip in his hands… For those whom the Lord loves he disciplines, and he scourges every son whom he receives. (Heb 12:6, NASB) Yet your heavenly Father is not like this. How do I know? I’ve seen Jesus. Jesus is none of these things. Rather, he is loving, gracious, kind and desires to share his life with you. Jesus said he was about his Father’s business and that business is not the condemning business but the adoption business. God loves you and wants to spend eternity delighting in you. So how does scourging fit into this picture? It doesn’t. It sticks out like a cobra in a kindergarten. It shouldn’t be there. Yet it is, in black and white in Hebrews 12. So does God scourge his kids or doesn’t he? What is scourging? In our era of first world problems, we may not be acquainted with the horrors of scourging. But those who lived in the first century were familiar with at least two types of scourging. First, there was the Jewish form of scourging which involved the application of a leather whip to your shoulders and chest. This form of scourging was limited by Jewish law to 40 stripes. This is why the Jews called it the “forty lashes minus one” – they didn’t want to risk breaking the law by miscounting so they deliberately reduced the maximum number of lashes to 39! The law also said the actual number of lashes was supposed to be commensurate with the crime. However, Paul got the “forty minus one” five times for breaking no law (1 Cor 11:24). Then there was Roman scourging which was worse. It was typically applied to criminals before execution and there was no law limiting the number of strokes applied. In fact, if you wanted to kill a man at the whipping post, you could do it with a vicious tool called the flagellum. Since there may be children reading this, I won’t describe what the Roman whip could do to a body of flesh and blood, but if you have seen The Passion movie, you will know. Regardless of whether you got the Jewish version or the Roman version, scourging was torture. Today it’s not the sort of thing civilized societies would inflict even on the worst criminals. Yet apparently God does it to his kids. Is this good news? Does God really scourge us? “The Lord scourges every son he receives.” That’s what it says. The original Greek word for scourges is mastigoō . It’s a verb that means “to scourge.” It is the same word that describes what Pilate had done to Jesus (John 19:1). So if you need a mental picture of God’s scourging, you’ll be wanting the Roman flagellum with the bits of metal in the thongs and the little hooks called scorpions at the end. If this troubles you, I’m glad. It means you have a brain! It means you are struggling to reconcile a good God with an evil whip. I’m here to tell you that God never, ever, ever scourges his kids. But before I give you my reasons, I have to be honest and admit that every single commentator I’ve read says he does. As far as I can tell, they all say stuff like this: “Scourges” means literally to flog or scourge… and entails any suffering which God ordains… God’s chastisement includes not only his “whipping” us so to speak for specific transgressions (but even here with the idea of remedial not retributive intent), but also the entire range of trials and tribulations which he providentially ordains and which work to mortify sin and nurture faith, ultimately serving to conform us to the image of His Son… Notice that “scourges” is in the present tense, which indicates that this is not a one time event, but can be expected in the lives of those who are truly God’s spiritual children. ~ Precept Austin God scourges us repeatedly. Isn’t that wonderful? Sheesh. No wonder sinners aren’t running into church when we’re preaching stuff like that. In my next post I am going to give you seven solid reasons why you can be convinced that God never scourges his children. But first, how are we to account for Hebrews 12:6, which says he does? It’s a misquote Look in the margin notes of your Bible and you will see that Hebrews 12:6 is quoting Proverbs 3:11-12. It’s a direct quote copied from the Old Testament and pasted into the New. Let’s put the original Proverb and the Hebrews version side by side and see if you can spot any differences: Original Quote from Prov 3:11-12 My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor detest his correction; For whom the Lord loves he corrects, Just as a father the son in whom he delights. Copied in Hebrews 12:5-6 My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by him For whom the Lord loves he chastens, And scourges every son whom he receives The first three lines of the original Proverb are faithfully reproduced in Hebrews 12. But look at that last line – the copy is nothing like the original. How are we to account for this? One of them must be wrong. According to Adam Clarke, the Victorian theologian, the incorrectly translated verse is the one on the left . Apparently, our English version of the old proverb is a poor translation. Read Proverbs in the Septuagint (the Greek Old Testament) and you’ll find something that looks more like the one on the right. According to him, God scourges us in both testaments. My problem with Clarke’s interpretation is that paints a picture of God wholly inconsistent with his character, as revealed in Jesus. What is the best translation of the Bible? It’s not the Septuagint – it’s Jesus! The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being… (Heb 1:3) It seems to me that we might just as easily conclude that the wrong verse is the one on the right. Something was lost in translation. Have you ever seen Joseph Prince preach? If so, you will know he sometimes switches from English to Chinese to better make a point for his Chinese-speaking audience. I think something like that happened with the book of Hebrews. Either, 1. Hebrews was written in Hebrew, or 2. Hebrews was written in Greek but the author quoted the old Hebrew proverbs in Hebrew for the benefit of his Hebrew speaking audience …and later, when Hebrews 12:6 was translated into Greek, the translator/copyist (not the author) made a mistake. Lost in translation I admit, I’m no linguist. But Andrew Farley is and on p.234ff of his book God Without Religion he explains how a translation error like the one I just described could’ve happened. In his expert opinion, a Hebrew word that can be translated “to scourge” can also be translated “to inquire into.” In other words, God doesn’t scourge us, rather God deeply inquires into our lives as he disciplines us, so that we can experience a harvest of righteousness and peace. (Heb 12:6, Farley’s paraphrase) This Hebrew word with two meanings could explain how the Septuagint got it wrong. I encourage you to read Farley’s book if you want to dig deeper. What is Hebrews really saying? In my view, the Hebrew author of the epistle to the Hebrews meant to say something like what we see in the Hebrew proverb, namely: For whom the Lord loves he instructs, just as a father the son in whom he delights. (Heb 12:6, my translation) This may be a better translation than the one you may have in your English Bible because it satisfies three tests: (1) It is consistent with the revelation of God the Father given to us through Jesus the Son, (2) it is consistent with many other scriptures indicating that God delights in his children and that he cares enough to bring life-giving correction , and (3) it fits the context of Hebrews 12, as I will explain in my next post. https://escapetoreality.org/2013/06/11/hebrews-12v6-does-god-scourge/ |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Do We Seek The Kingdom Of God? Let's See - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 3:02pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: How Do We Seek The Kingdom Of God? Let's See - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 11:34am On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: How Do We Seek The Kingdom Of God? Let's See - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 6:34am On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Examine Yourselves ( 2 Corinthians 13:5) - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:33am On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Believing In Vain ( 1 Corinthians 15:2) - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:33am On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: 1 Peter 4:17 : Its Judgement Time!! - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:32am On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Correction : Old Versus New - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:32am On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Know I'm Saved? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:32am On Oct 19, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Salvation---->restitution (please I Need Some Clarity) by jiggaz(m): 6:23am On Oct 19, 2016 |
opportunity2012:My brother, this is the devil playing with your mind. Since you are saved in 2009, you are now a new creation in Christ. Old things have passed away and all things have become new. Jesus Christ paid for all your sins on the Cross and He said it finished!! It is finished means IT IS FINISHED!! No sin was left.... What you need to do now is to start renewing your mind in Christ and resisting the devil by casting down imaginations or thoughts that are disobedient to the Word of God. The battle is on the mind, so have to be renewing your mind with the word of God. Click on my profile name and go through my Christian articles, you will love them cos it will liberate you. It is made for people like you.... Please don't worry yourself again bro. It is well with you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: These Are The Reasons Why I Left Christianity by jiggaz(m): 7:07pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
CeoMYN:loooool.... my brother sorry to burst your bubble but you were never a Christian, you were just a church goer, sorry. You even said it yourself that you were born into a Christian home so that's why you chose to start goin to church. You didn't believe Jesus Christ as your Lord & Saviour. As i always say, no one is forcing anyone to become a Believer in Christ. We are in a free world and we all gat free choice. The good news is not forced on anyone at all.... Live and let's live that's my policy. If i present the good news of Christ to you and you reject it, all well and good. I can't force you cos that will be violating your right to choose. Another thing you have to understand is that God does not send anyone to hell, men choose to go there. At the second coming of Christ, the unbelievers in the world would have already condemned themselves because when you reject the Gospel of Christ, you are rejecting Eternal life, and when you reject eternal life, you are automatically asking for Eternal Damnation. So you see, Christ does not send anyone to Hell, people chose Hell for themselves. One more thing, that you don't believe in God does not mean he doesn't exist. The creation is the number one testimony of God's existence and sovereignty. That you do not see air does not mean it do not exist. That you do not see radio waves and tv waves does not mean it do not exist. Jesus Christ is coming the second time to fix this fallen world, whether you believe it or not does not matter. People of Noah's days did not believe Noah until suddenly, the flood came upon them suddenly and destroyed them. So atheists are nothing new, we have seen them before. If you listen carefully, you will hear the footsteps of the Messiah. ...God bless you. 14 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › How Do I Know I'm Saved? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 6:28pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
“Are you saved? Are you sure?” These questions are sometimes used to scare people into signing up for works-based insurance, which is bad. But the questions themselves are legitimate. In scripture we are exhorted to examine ourselves to see whether we are in the faith (2 Cor 13:5). As I have explained elsewhere, this does not mean we should search ourselves for sin to see if we are still saved. “For don’t you know that Christ is in you?” But how do you know that Christ is in you? What is the proof of the pudding? Is it spiritual fruit, moral behavior or what? Is it even possible to know for sure if you are saved? Many Christians don’t know with 100 percent certainty. If you ask them whether they have an assurance of their salvation they say, “I believe I am saved,” which is wonderful because this is totally a faith thing. But believing is different from knowing. If you don’t know you are saved you may think, “I have to believe and keep on believing,” while privately wondering, What if I stop believing? Others might say, “I have confessed, therefore I’m saved,” which is also fine because that’s scriptural (Rom 10:9). But deep inside they might wonder, What if I confessed wrong? What if I un-confess? Please understand that I am not questioning scripture or your faith. I’m asking a simple question: How do you know you are saved? This is a BIG DEAL because if you don’t know you’ll be susceptible to the lies of religion . “To make your salvation sure you need to turn from sin, confess every last one, keep short accounts, have a daily quiet time, and attend every church meeting.” Believe that and you’ll end up worn out and fallen from grace. Faith is being certain When I was a child I didn’t know for sure if I was saved. Sure, I had confessed and believed, but my immature mind was so riddled with doubt that giving my life to Christ was a regular event. With an unholy fear I’d respond to altar calls and say the sinner’s prayer again and again. I did none of this to get saved (I already was!) but because I wasn’t sure if I was saved. And since faith is being sure (see Heb 11:1), my uncertainty only made me worry more. It’s a vicious cycle that can only be broken by having a confident assurance of your salvation. Some will say, “I just know” or “I know in my heart what my brain can’t explain,” and I totally relate. But how do you know? Others will point to supernatural experiences of which I’ve had plenty. Camilla and I would literally be dead but for divine intervention, and I thank God for all the miraculous stories he’s given me. But not everyone has these sorts of stories and those who do may forget them. An evangelical points to his good confession and a charismatic points to her spiritual experience, but both might ask how do I know that I’m saved? A crisis of faith I have had a life-time of walking with the Lord. He has told me things I could not know and turned me from dangers unseen. I routinely see evidence of his hand in my life. (Just yesterday my two-year-old daughter was in a terrible household accident and walked away largely unscathed. I haven’t stopped saying “Thank you, Jesus.”) I have experienced God’s supernatural comfort when I was in the pit of despair. He has resurrected dead dreams and brought me to a land flowing with milk and honey. Because of his grace I am at rest in a restless world. This is normal Christian living for the one who believes that God is good and his face shines upon them. Yet despite all this, there was a time when I wondered if I hadn’t made the whole thing up. “What if I imagined it? What if it was nothing more than a ‘spiritual experience’?” In my case these were absurd questions – I had seen so much. But for a new believer who has seen little of the Lord’s goodness, they are valid questions. You get saved on Sunday but by Wednesday you’re wondering if it was real. “What has actually changed? How do I know I’m saved? Where’s the proof?” During my crisis of faith, I was plagued by these questions. I forgot all my stories, I ignored all the evidence, and a lie began to take root in my mind. What if none of this was real? What if I’m not actually saved? Faith is not blind In desperation I took my questions to the Lord. Straightaway, he brought the following verse to mind: Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. (1 Cor 12:3) As I read that scripture I began to converse with myself. “Can you say ‘Jesus is Lord’?” “Of course I can, because he is. Jesus is Lord!” “How do you know that?” “I don’t know. I just do.” “But how could you know that? What does the scripture say?” “I guess the Holy Spirit showed me.” “Why did he do that?” “Because he loves me and lives in me.” “You must be the temple of the Holy Spirit! You must be saved.” “That I am. I know it.” As the truth of God’s Word was revealed to me, the scales of doubt fell from my eyes. I got so excited that I began to shout “Jesus is Lord” again and again. I didn’t do it out of a fearful sense of I’d-better-say-the-magic-words. I did it because the Holy Spirit was using the truth to dislodge a lie. I said it with conviction and the result was peace and joy and a total assurance of my salvation. Faith knows Look again at Paul’s words: “Therefore, I want you to know…” There are many scriptures about believing, but this one is about knowing. In the Bible there’s no such thing as blind faith. Biblical faith is believing and knowing: Peter said, “We have come to believe and know that you are the Holy One of God” (John 6:69) John wrote so that you may “believe in the Son of God and know that you have eternal life” (1 John 5:13) Paul spoke of those “who believe and know the truth” (1 Tim 4:3) Perhaps you believe you are saved but you don’t know that you are saved. The good news is you can know and the Spirit of wisdom and understanding wants you to know. Ask him to help you know and he will! Since that day when the Lord spoke to me I have never wavered, never had a second’s doubt. For a natural worrier, this is not normal! I once was worried, but now I am fully persuaded. I was once anxious, but now I am at peace. All this is to the glory of our heavenly Father who wants us to know that we are his, and that no one can snatch us from his hand. https://escapetoreality.org/2016/10/13/how-do-i-know-im-saved/ |
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