Folks quoting and responding to their alternate IDs.. You will love to see it.

You might think Nigeria is lawless, but you can be rest assured the FG like making scapegoats out of dispensable elements to prove a point. There is an awakening that even top government functionaries are weary...

Once your face goes viral, you will go down faster than your nerves could move.

No dey form commando, dey form say you be MOSSAD.. No serious security personnel will act the way that useless fellow is frothing in the mouth..

Anyway... Nairaland.com is an alternate universe for nobodies to become somebody.. While at it, ensure you don't over indulge yourself... There could be repercussions.

222Martins:


Interesting information! Highlighted for reference purposes.

That renegade idiot deleted it.. His diarrhoea oral orifice will be his undoing... If person wan do am strong thing na to carry this him post go twitter, and boom the rabbit will promptly deactivate,and reappear low key with another stupid ID..

Atimes silence really pays...

Ent3rpreneur:



https://theeagleonline.com.ng/video-soldier-fires-gun-into-his-mouth-to-test-bullet-charm/


This is an Ak-47. Unless you want to say it's an inferior gun

Don't mind that clown.. I don't have time engaging a popular idiot on the thread.

Superjazz:

you self which kind person you be,u claim to be a security operative on this thread even threaten one guy like that for this same thread so tey the guy disactivate him account.you nor get work to do abi na security man for government secondary school you be sef

KingAzubuike:

[s]Okay let's strike a deal. Go to any baba or babalawo and do the best odeshi you can lay your hands on. If you don't have the money to fund that adventure, I'll pay you. You can hit me up on WhatsApp. When you're done, I'll take you to a location where a rifle will be tested on your chest.

I promise you #500k if the bullet didn't have any effect[/s]

Nonsense !!! Feed yourself first.

KingAzubuike:


Thank God you've answered yourself.

# if they believed so much in their juju, the "fleeing " protesters shouldn't be running away. Infact they should have been moving closer to the police with their bare chest.

#its far difficult to hit a running target than a stationary target.

You are a bundle of contradiction.

Not everyone uses Juju.. The boys in my link were not fleeing but stationery.

Why are you speaking from both sides of your mouth. Now exit the chat.. You are simply wasting my time .

Thanks..

Nemesis0147:
oga I have seen
Say what you know sir,,that you have not seen doesn’t mean that someone hasn’t seen.

Don't mind those people...

KingAzubuike:

There's nothing like juju. Watch this video, you'd see that gun was a local one and most of them use pellets. Pellets are extremely inaccurate even from a mere 50M distance. Even someone who is not well trained can easily miss from that distance with an AK 47. There's nothing like juju, stop deceiving yourselves with this imaginary myth.

Cc Ilovetoinvest

KingAzubuike:

You people have never handled a weapon so it's easy to say nonsense. Let me tell you, it's very easy to miss a shot from a paltry 30M distance than it is to hit the target. Most cases of juju or odeshi stuffs are usually from a long distance. Me i never see where person dey claim juju with close range shots. Have you ever seen? Point a real gun to your head at close range and it won't enter. ? Na die you go die like fowl. Just is just an imagination.

Like I said earlier.. I don't have time for stupid arguments... You guys love shifting the goal post every damn time.

During these #EndSARS palava, we have seen videos of policemen shooting fleeing protesters with good accuracy..

But you want to make me believe a bunch of boys standing their ground while being shot is nothing.. Una go dey alright..

IMAMofWAR:
stop this rubbish abeg. non of them was fired directly. if they are selina tested may them go front na, so they can fire them face to face. the fucking bullet didnt hit anyone. stop promoting trash abehg

Lousy argument... No time to waste on time wasters...

What will be your next point.. They were fired with toy guns, or those were fake AK 47 rifles...

Abeg make we revert back to the thread.... #saynotocultism...

Ilovetoinvest:


Those boys came there when the police men stopped shooting. They were far back during the initial shooting.

The calibre of weapons the police were handling looks like something with terrible precision.

Bring a real ak 47 there and sing this selina song again

You were saying the boys were not been fired at right...?

Now exit this argument after watching the continuation of the first clip below...

https://twitter.com/Z_momentum/status/1318936738182647808?s=19

Ilovetoinvest:


Those boys came there when the police men stopped shooting. They were far back during the initial shooting.

The calibre of weapons the police were handling looks like something with terrible precision.

Bring a real ak 47 there and sing this selina song again

You earnestly feel I will waste my time on this argument ..

You said the boys came there after the shooting.. Now show me your own video PROVING that....

If you have no video, then please spare us your conjectures..

What do you mean by real AK 47? ....You must be joking if this the best defense you can offer despite video evidence of Policemen taking aim, and shooting, while using the fence as a shield. Within seconds, the camera man showed the boys standing their ground..

This is another video from Aba... Tell me the Policemen were chasing a ghost and the marksman was shooting into empty space...

https://twitter.com/Lad_Vybz/status/1318921868926124040?s=19

Ilovetoinvest:


This is just theatrics. Look closesly you will see those boys came after the shooting. Bullets are also not likely to he real.

So the Policemen were shooting at empty space.... Say something else Abeg...

GreenArrow1:


They also say the D.P.O who was been paraded by the boys has been beheaded.

The DPO beheading is still unsubstantiated.. Things have gone haywire.. I hope calm is restored quickly.. Amen..

Selina Tested PH boys... Who talk say juju no dey make e fem....

https://twitter.com/VictorIsrael_/status/1318921916602814465?s=19

These are trained policemen shooting, and the boys are still unharmed.. Heard the Police station was later burned down..

Jman06:
Y'all know the crop of people you have in government today. And the most annoying thing is that ASUU members were instrumental to enthroning this Buhari government as though they had amnesia at the time they were voting and rigging this present government into office. Now they expect a Buhari government to do that which many of us know is impossible!

Anyone who blames ASUU for rigging the election for Buhari should never be taken seriously. It is a lie taken too far. I will simply pose some questions that demands you answer them.

jmaine:


On election matters

Is it ASUU that has refused to amend and strengthen the electoral laws to make it foolproof?

Is it ASUU that arms the youths with guns and cutlasses to wreck havoc during elections?

Is it ASUU that induces voters during election?

Is it ASUU that chose to sell their votes shamelessly?

Is ASUU, INEC that supervises the entire process?

Jman06:

This is the seventh month students have been at home, many have even dropped out already while the ones yet to move on are going through a lot of mental tortures at home, and yet you think the purpose for which ASUU claims to fight is not being defeated already

Yeah, comfortably excuse the FG entirely from doing the needful, while we should cower in shame in shame and accept our misfortune. If the fight is being defeated, why is the FG desperate for settlement?

Oh! yes, it has finally dawned on them the sleeping and docile masses are willing to take them head on. I hope when the desired change comes, active government supporters like you don't benefit. Benefitting should be like a poison to you lot.

Jman06:

If ASUU is a responsible union as it claims, this is the time to show responsibility by suspending the strike considering the impact of COVID19 and the state of the country at the moment. Insisting on getting everything now is akin to going to extremity and that does not speak well of the union

The impact of Covid-19 and the state of the country at the moment did not stop the government from looting Covid-19 funds, It did not stop them from looting returned Abacha loot, It did not stop them from maintaining their mega paycheck and allowances, it did not stop them from looting hundreds of billion in a farce school feeding programmes while students were at home. The same Covid Reality did not stop them from continuing the sleeze in their 2021 budget proposal.
You comfortably excuse the politicians, and demand the masses suffer in penury to satisfy the insatiable gluttony of our leaders. You are indeed one of a kind.

Jman06:

And about #EndSARs protest, though I have my reservation about the wordings of the tag, I still understand the plight of the Nigerian youths even better than you who is clearly concerned about how you can capitalize on the protest to get more money for yourself through ASUU strike.

The youth are on the streets for the same reason ASUU is insisting the govt. show cause to their demands. The masses have finally understood ASUU plight in entering into watery paper promises without necessary action seen.

Shame on you sir.... You are clearly on the side of the oppressor, eat and merry while it lasts, cos the citizens are coming for your kind.

Ebenezer2021:
their differences could be settled or negotiated without keeping the students at home

Yeah... No one is keeping the students at home, they can resume school cos they are in session as we speak..

The academic staff only withdrew their services as it should be in any industrial dispute.

Jman06:
Strike was an instrument used during the military. This is democracy! ASUU should accept what they have been offered for now, call off the strike, go back and use their heads to get whatever they want.

That is what WISDOM demands of them now.

You must be joking or being plain mischievous.. You mean the union should fall into the set trap that necessitated the current industrial action..

If we are in a democracy, why are citizens protesting massively to end Police brutality, while the problem still fester..

Folks like you are the reason why the politicians are taking us for a ride. We should accept their crumbs, usual lies, and manage.

How will ASUU use their heads to get whatever they want if not by rejecting lies, and demanding for implementation.

I am prolly sure you are against the #EndSARS movement going on by your defeatist view.

obstead200:
unlike u lots, I am not egocentric. So I have no compulsion to prove anything to you.

But I assure u, on another day, on an entirely different matter, e go shock u. ���

The only way you can shock me is by improving yourself. The society deserves a better you, not this version you are showcasing. Cheers...

obstead200:
[s]all u know is how to play with words and concote big grammar. U all are just empty lots. As for not going through the four walls of a university, well, it will probably shock u when I am the one supervising Ur PhD, if u are yet to get one.

Unlike the rest of u lots, I am pragmatic and objective in my approach to issues. ASUU is simply being irrational and selfish[/s]

You are not fit to tutor a primary 6 student.. So keep quiet before you shame yourself further.

obstead200:
is it because u bound it like a textbook? Does that make it a textbook? U guys are just the biggest hypocrites that ever existed. Students are getting wiser. One day, if the govt refused to give u Ur medicine, students will do the job.
And which welfare are u fighting for? When u consistently play a pivotal role in the electoral process to put these demons in power. U guys are the returning officers that announce election results. You take all sorts of bribes to put rogues in power. Only to turn round and start crying foul.

Bunch of greedy, inept and incompetent monkeys

You aren't making any sense, It takes a lot to produce text books, I am sure you used PN Okeke physics text book in your secondary school if you were a science student. Will you also call Prof. PN Okeke a fraud. There are countless of quality text books produced by Nigerian scholars, offcourse i don't expect a potential drop out to appreciate what it takes to produce good texts for students.

There is nothing you, or the government can do that past military regimes didn't try but failed woefully, pata pata all scholars will abandon the system and leave it for dunces like you to finally ruin them.

On election matters

Is it ASUU that has refused to amend and strengthen the electoral laws to make it foolproof?

Is it ASUU that arms the youths with guns and cutlasses to wreck havoc during elections?

Is it ASUU that induces voters during election?

Is it ASUU that chose to sell their votes shamelessly?

Is ASUU, INEC that supervises the entire process?

It is shameful you lack depth in good logical, and rational thinking. You and your cohorts mess up the entire process, and expect collaters to do magic, what a shame.

Your output on this thread demonstrates you never passed through the four walls of the university, we don't train shallow minds like you. .. Take a break from cyberspace and do a thorough re-evaluation of yourself, 2020 is long gone, 2021 may usher learning opportunities for you.

Have a wonderful day ahead lad.

obstead200:
ASUU won't allow fee increase, simply because it will make education less affordable. If less students are admitted, they can't sell handout and textbooks. Ultimately, ASUU is ONLY concerned about their pockets

You are talking out of ignorance.. ASUU has no business with your school fees, and lecturers in Federal Universities don't sell handouts...

A student who feels he is not supposed to buy text books has lost his/her purpose as a student.

Like I said, if it means lecturing under the trees, ASUU is ready to accept it for better pay at the moment .. When the time is ripe, the students will face the govt, and demand better funding for education.

We can't continue fighting for the welfare of the system, while those who will benefit from it continually insult us.

obstead200:
ASUU is only after their pockets. Forget about how much they try to conceal the obvious. Too bad that they are yet to meet a govt that can match them cunning for cunning

Your mentality is why ASUU members are insisting their leadership focus on their welfare and jettison any talk about revitalization of Universities.

They should also allow the FG increase tuition to 300K, we are ready to lecture students under trees. When that happens, the Nigerian students and parents will appreciate the union.

obstead200:
I just realised that ASUU also pays image-makers on social media to help them fight on that front. You are one of them.

Well let me tell u guys something. Buhari, no matter how much I dislike him, is definitely not like other leaders in time past. He (or his handlers) gat lots of guts. ASUU is in not gonna arm twist him into agreeing to absurd and ridiculous conditions this time.
I have a feeling that FG will win this fight very easily. Luckily, they have long pocketed the judiciary and the national assembly.

Expect some very drastic and unconventional moves from the govt very soon. E go shock ASUU, and they won't be able to do shit about it.

You under estimate ASUU...

The Military government including the dreaded Abacha did worse, but the union ASUU has remained ever strong.

Have you seen the FG is already getting desperate and uncomfortable to let the strike continue, I bet they didn't think their recalcitrant attitude towards education will back fire...

Agents of darkness like you who seek the destruction the last standing education strata will come to. Nought.

. Look at the dead public primary and secondary education we currently have. Is that what you desire.

edogu:

Well, the ASUU that I know will make sure those promises are met before suspending the strike.

Hopefully this time.. Once Bitten, Twice Shy..

All these are bullshit promises.. The strike continues..

otokx:
Happy to see that Nigerians are seeing beyond the half truth of ASUU

But your union SSANU is on strike over IPPIS... The irony...

MT:


[s]Cry me a river, IPPIS has come to stay. Someone lacking in IT expertise attesting to how formidable a software is. Claiming to know so much, while so empty. Must you die working for FG ?. If you feel the FG is treating you poorly, resign. If you are as sound as you claim, pick up a job abroad or anywhere else and relocate. No employee can dictate how employer will pay him or her. It reeks of total foolishness and ignorance.

And the labour crisis you were referring to was a figment of your own imagination. You paper tigers have lost relevance, public sympathy and values. You are messing up with the wrong president. Most of you will soon be in the labour market. Don't register with IPPIS and be grandstanding, then let us see how it plays out and ends for you.[/s]

I knew you were another rabble rousing jester. When you are able to compose a single page article worthy of being published even in predatory journal. We can then engage, this is me being nice and fair.

Before I leave, let me post this links to show the redundancy of your posts...

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/10/05/nasu-ssanu-begin-warning-strike-today/

https://punchng.com/asup-threatens-strike-over-ippis-challenges/

Shame on you nonentities trying to educate those affected by IPPIS compatibility issues with their conditions of service

MT:


I knew your ilk. I knew you would crack and spew rubbish under intense searchlight. You couldn't make reasonable argument without being insulting. It shows the quality of education which you have been exposed to. I don't need to apply for the position of a Professor but I can tell you majority of you guys are paper tigers. Show me the impact you have made in your field and I will show you mind blowing projects I have used my skill set to lead. Universities should always be the bridge between the gown and the town, today, the town just sees your citadels as "mere institutions" where students go to after passing their JAMB. You should be bothered. You should be concerned and ashamed that you have failed to make a reasonable impact in the sector where you frustratingly find yourself. And let it be clear, I was properly educated and trained by the best hands in my industry in a saner clime. Let that sink in.

Everyone online is a giant, while offline they are mostly nonentities

We have loads of scholars winning fellowships in top ranked institutions globally, but a certain e-warrior feels they are inferior in his infinitesimal mind.
A team of academics built a formidable software in record time for the FG to deploy to solve the current impasse. A solution to the FG at no extra cost than the IPPIS that attracts a subscription from soft alliance, a company owned by Tinubu..
When you will take your expertise to the IPPIS office to help them tweak the software to accommodate the peculiarities causing labour crisis in the Universities, Polytechnics, and Colleges of Education.?

You have no moral standing to lecture anyone on self worth.. Stand down..

MT:


All these are excuses. Get on board and they will work on the other uncaptured requirements(if any). Software evolves that's why we have different versions. We have seen through ASUU deceit. It's a corrupt union pretending to fight for the interest of the students. Now the hen has come home to roost. Most of the so- called professors and PhD holders are not sound and I wonder what they lecture the students. We need total overhaul. Fg should develop ball of steel, advertise their positions if they refuse to comply. I won't debate my professionalism with you, your choice mister.

Nonsense.. Still parroting what has proven to be a baseless points. We have gone pass this infantile rant as yours...

When next the FG is advertising, apply for the post of a professor, and make sure you are harmed with the necessary publications in reputable international journals as expected.

Some of you simply use the anonymity of social media to chat bullshit.

amerengues:


I am quoting you and replying you because you didn’t insult in responding as most Nairalander do thus, I hardly comment.

We argue to gain more enlightenment and if in the process, we encounter superior arguments, we should accept it.

You made a valid point by referring to the ghost workers issue- we don’t want ghost workers that sap our resources struggling to go round.

ASUU went on strike before pandemic thus it wasn’t in the midst of pandemic; It wasn’t because of IPPIS that they started the strike; This same government agreed at a time that they are willing to looking into the alternative ASUU will present which is UTAS since it accommodates most of the peculiarities IPPIS is devoid of

eg Adjunct lecturers (Hardly will you see any department/faculty with adjunct Lecturers from the industry). An engineering faculty with a course on Engineering law (just an illustration)may borrow lecturers. Also, those presently on IPPIS in other ministry have started complaining of the irregularities because I have a colleague who complained recently.

To rectify issues, you might need to travel to Abuja (Security, finance, stress, not meeting them on seat and telling you to come tomorrow), why hasn’t the Government decentralized this IPPIS. A friend has been advised to travel to Abuja recently.

We are quick to forget that this strike is premised on the follow up on previous agreement the government has successfully renegaded on without no commitment to do anything significant. IPPIS main issue came up when the stopped salary in which strike was on before the focus shifted to IPPIS.

Again, I ask, students have never supported revitalization and adequate funding and we are quick to condemn some persons who wants that. Government really fears the students’ protest but unfortunately they don’t protest for better education or support the struggle since we all want to quickly graduate. Those schools abroad get huge fundings for education. If you perceive that there is a misappropriation in university system, why not wade in and be in charge of fixing the infrastructure and revitalization fee and leave the school administrators out of the process- come and build and innovative rickety libraries.

Remember that anything Government is continuous and not only must you fulfill the promises but build on it. Again, this struggle was before so many of us are born, why are we still in this state. Please kindly do your research on how much Graduate assistants and Assistant lecturers earn.

Recently, they retain best students to lecture but after seeing how decayed the system is coupled will a paltry salary of 105k for some school lecturers, they accept offers from universities abroad and the system weakens further. Government only focuses on the propaganda of 10,000 lecturers as Prof whereas the bulk are in the very lower cadre who will print, publish articles, fix their offices with their money especially for those who could never sell handouts as a university rule. They are left with only meager salaries. I will stop here.


However, the challenge with ASUU is their penchant for shouldering all the requests needed for school revitalization. If ASUU focuses on the welfare of the members alone (which in hard fact, not possible though since university structures and infrastructure isn’t alien to ASUU’ operations), the strike won’t be incessant. If the students and parents don’t ask for better education, leave them to it. You can’t be fighting for people who don’t understand you.

If any ASUU member is found erring for misappropriation , prosecute them instantly but we forget that ASUU is academic and not always at the helm of affairs of most administrative activities of some universities and how some of it sef is being used are not even known to them.

All we want is a balanced view. So pathetic that this struggle has been on for ages. If only, if only they fix it once, Government would be able to brag one day.

You spoke very well bro.. However, I am of the opinion ASUU should jettison all pro students struggles like Increase in school fees and revitalization, and focus solely on welfare...

The culture of being insulted simply because the students are too myopic in their views of a better education system has to end..

Let the FG increase the school fees to a minimum of 350k as they plan.. We will teach them under trees if that is what it will take to mind our business squarely...

MT:


Quit this smoke screen. I'm an IT person.if a software doesn't capture certain requirement, the software can always be worked on to accommodate the new functionality. You cant throw away IPPIS because it doesn't fully capture your requirements, that's lame and uninformed.

As an IT person.. How many years does it take to tweak a software cos ASUU pointed out this issues since 2013..?

Enrollment of the Tertiary education sector started November last year.. Why hasn't this been done?

By your submission, you are simply implying the FG is on a deliberate course to sabotage the education sector, else they did take into cognisance the issues causing industrial crisis..

You better sit this one out and stop claiming what you are obviously not..

AniwetaluEmma:
This is what Federal Government sold to you which does reflect reality on ground.
1. There is an extant law that establishes the independence of the school adminstration. That is why the governing council was established. Every lecturer work for governing council not government.
By introduction of IPPIS power to employ and fund University goes to Abuja (Hands of politicians)
2. Sabbatical, Adjunct and part-time lecturing is a global practice. It is engaging experience hands in areas of neccesity by some universities. A student might like to major in a particular option that school may not have experienced hands in. That department can hire another experience lecturer from another school to handle that. IPPIS didn't capture this peculiarity.
3. IPPIS payment is on double taxation. Federal government tax You. State still tax you. 7% each.
4. Federal government through IPPIS migrated everyone to fraudulent and non existent National Housing Schemes where about 10% of salaries of every ASUU member is being deducted.
5. Earn Allowance which is a global practice in academic sector is not acknowledged by IPPIS. This is where lecturers take solace in.
Earn Allowance be is the money that arise from the excessive loads some lecturers carried. This motivate them to do more. Who will do that works without payments?
6. ASUU offered a transparent payment method that capture all these peculiarities. Why federal government doesn't want to address it?
7. Mind you that ASUU is purely academic union. They are not into management. ASUU don't employ or manage finances. They only teach.
8. Do you know that all the agreements Federal government went in with ASUU since 2009 nothing has been done on the part of government since today. How do you want ASUU to trust Federal Government.

Even the OAGF recognised that point 2 is valid.. But as we speak, IPPIS has clearly shown it cannot accommodate them.. Why not embrace an alternative that does the same job, but supervised by your office.

Thanks for input.