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I see nothing in this thread that legitimately discredits the book. Quoting personal and atheist-site prejudice without addressing a single miracle in the book or the merits of the medical evidence therefor is illegitimate. I've never been a Kathryn Kuhlman fan, but the evidence in the book must be evaluated on it's own merit — which Pr0ton and others have NOT done. It seems obvious that Pr0ton has not read the book and therefore is in no position to discredit it.

I've not read the book yet either, but I have read the ten account summaries at http://www.is-there-a-god.info/life/tenhealings.shtml. According to that site, Casdorph provides supporting medical documentation (xrays, arteriograms, etc.) in his book for at least three or four of the cases he describes.

I've recently analyzed the before-and-after medical and testimonial evidence for a dramatic sight-restoration miracle (my 10,000+ words and graphics will soon be available online), leaving me unalterably convinced of its genuineness and divine origin. And as an analytical personality (a PhD scientist), I was not initially convinced. I've also looked carefully at the medical evidence for another miracle involving the quite substantial regrowth of an almost-destroyed an adult small intestine (which CANNOT regenerate per two GI specialists I consulted, one of whom is the consulting GI guy for the Short Bowel Syndrome Foundation).

NO evidence and NO analysis, regardless of validity or extent, will convince a closed-minded person with emotional/lifestyle/pride/worldview investments in the non-existence of miracles in particular and God in general. However, a reasonable person would doubtless join me in my assessments.

Those are just two of a large number of miracles I'm aware of. More broadly, for tough-minded high-endurance types, consider reading Craig Keener's extensive (1248 page!) discussions of both ancient and present day miracle claims in 'Miracles: The Credibility of the New Testament Accounts'. Yet more broadly, the percentage-data findings of a 2006 Pew-Forum-survey * suggest that --- per today's world population figures --- nearly a billion residents of ten countries have claimed experiencing and/or witnessing divine healings. Some such claims doubtless are redundant and some doubtless relate to coincidence, trickery/fakery/suggestion, psychosomatic relief, false attribution of natural cause and effect, etc. However, even if we assume that 999 out of 1000 claims fall into those categories --- a very ruthless discount, that leaves a million (1 in 1000) that don't.

For readers who struggle to accept the reality of miracles, consider that Hume's main argument against miracles has been thoroughly discredited as logically invalid. (Not an empty claim; I can supply a rebuttal, though that's beyond the scope of this post.) Moreover — contrary to common perceptions or claims — science (vs. scienTISM — a worldview) has absolutely *nothing* legitimate to say against true miracles. Miracles by definition *transcend* the domain of science — the natural — and, I submit, are implicitly implemented using a physical-law SUPERset that *transcends* the time-dimension, space-dimension, and physical-law SUBset that defines the physical essence of our universe, starting at the Big Bang.

For the more technically minded among you, note that physics and cosmology still wrestle with what initiated the Big Bang:

"...there was nothing before the Big Bang as time also started with the Big Bang: there was no ‘before’ for anything to be happening in. Nobody has come up with a testable explanation of what caused the Big Bang, and the question may not actually be meaningful. [[I disagree.]] This is mind-boggling stuff, but it does seem to fit the facts.” **

Ideas of initiation by quantum fluctuations somewhere *outside* of our space-time — a forever unknown domain with forever unknown properties — don't logically cut it. Our universe was logically initiated by *transcendent* agency at some point in a *second* time dimension *outside* of OUR time dimension — which is generally recognized (per the space-time theory of general relativity) to have been *created* at the Big Bang.



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*'Spirit and Power: A 10-Country Survey of Pentecostals', Pew Forum On Religion & Public Life, 2006, p. 137. I look at ‘All’-labeled statistics with ‘Yes’ answers from the GENERAL populace of those countries, not Pentecostals specifically. Accessed 2/6/2015 at http://www.pewforum.org/2006/10/05/ spirit-and-power-a-10-country-survey-of-pentecostals3/.

** 'How did the Universe begin?', Science and Technology Facilities Council, LHC Project Simulator, Take 5, 2013. Most recently available as of 1/4/14 at: http://www.particledetectives.net/html/universe_begin.html. I'm not sure it's available *directly* at that URL today; I can supply a PDF of the original page if someone wants to see it.