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Janosky:
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* * John20:28"Thomas said: my lord and my God", Thomas never said "Our Lord and our God!

ha ha ha ha

not adressed to me, but false jw i like answering your much repeated confusion
showing what a duh you are

Janosky: ****Jesus never raised himself

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ
you again don't believe God's word which is calling God a liar

Joh_2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

^^^ Jesus raised His body, vvv Jesus has the power to raise His body

oh 10:17  Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 
Joh 10:18  No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

Act 2:24  Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

Father and the Word is God, john 1:1, and from the two verses above this one it is known that God the Word-Jesus, raised up His flesh body


Rom 8:11  But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

^^^ the Holy Spirit raised Jesus body, showing the Holy spirit is God
Father raised Jesus, the word-Jesus raised His temple-body, the Holy Spirit raised Jesus
= Father son and Holy Spirit is God
God the Word-Jesus raised His temple-body, just like he said he would

Janosky: "Mary a virgin bore a child.
That child, "Jesus must be Jehovah'" was called "Immanuel" which means "God with us" .
Mary ,a virgin gave birth to God in the flesh, Mary is the mother of God, that's what they really mean but they are quick to label Catholics liars even though they & Catholics believe that Mary is the mother of Immanuel, God in the flesh.

Lol.

confused stupidity brain Janosky/OneJ
who cannot understand anything
once more, Jesus certainly is God with us, verses say so
God the word + flesh = God in the flesh, mary didn't give birth to God the Word, duh duh, she gave birth to His flesh

but you will never understand any of the above oh know nothing, your duh rating is 10 out of 10

Janosky: Last last, " Jesus must be Jehovah' is a fraud.
Mr OLAADEGBU, Trinity is a scam.

so you keep saying mumu brain with nothing to show for it, just much confusion:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Father and the Word is God
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

false jw say that "the Word was with God, and the Word was "a god"

however Jehovah said there is no god with me:
Deu 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

^^^ showing that "the Word was with God, and the Word was God"
is the correct interpertation of john 1:1




and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
+
and there is no god with me, = God and the Word is the one true God
and is not God and a god, as false jw's believe




Deu_6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Gen_1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: ....

Janosky:
*** Isaiah 45:22 contradicts your "Jesus must be Jehovah" FRAUD.
Fake analogy, fake doctrine.
U always agreed that your "God the Son" is NOT your "God the father".

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ
to start with their is no need for you to reply to things i said in the middle of your reply to olaadegbu
i might have missed it
perhaps that's what you wanted, oh deceiver

as to your above, oh duh, it's true know nothing, once again, the Father is not the Son
and those two persons are the one God, john 1:1

Janosky: Isaiah 45:22 says "I am God..." that's a first person singular statement refering to Only one person. Naso your English teacher teach you.
Isaiah 45:22 "I am God" is NEVER "We are God".

oh duh repeater of your same confusion over and over again, Jehovah is God and there is no other God, isaiah 45:22
Jehovah is a name for God, Father and the Word is Jehovah God, john 1:1

Janosky: "One God the FATHER from who all things came" ( 1cor8:6)
Ogbeni, U have no point at all.

ha ha you certainly don't have any points, oh talking about yourself again

one God, the Father, of whom are all things
and
one Lord Jesus Christ by whom are all things
is showing that Father and Jesus are the one Lord God
but not to the blinded:
2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky: " Jesus must be Jehovah'" na fraud.

disbeliever of God's word, half baked Janosky/OneJ
only to a blinded know nothing

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Maximus69:
Please Mr John can you try using a modern day Bible so that the 'woe' 'ye' and 'thou' could be understood by people?
Of course every reader of the Bible feels like quoting it to back up whatever they say,so it's not a crime if you're also doing the same thing but i'm sure you're aware that neither Jesus,his followers nor the Pharisees spoke English nonetheless those odd forgotten languages of the 16th century! The KJV was translated during the time when people speaks those old form of English,but today even you would rebuke your child if he or she decides to narrate an event with such English. God bless you Sir!

pharisee hypocrit false jw max

once again, it's hypocritical for you to tell someone what bible to use or not use
while holding to your false jw book which has been added to

Rev 22:18  For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 
Rev 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

^^^ this may be speaking off the book of revelation, but it of course would apply to any of the books of the bible-God's word

love that not so old english
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



the 1600's kjv is easy to understand, but it could be hard to understand for those that have been blinded

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



now this is old english

geneva Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the deuill, and the lustes of your father ye will doe: hee hath bene a murtherer from the beginning, and abode not in the trueth, because there is no trueth in him. When hee speaketh a lie, then speaketh hee of his owne: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

Maximus69:
Thanks Sir,you're blessed!

false jw mad max
you say those of non denomination will automatically become LAWLESS
and then you say to me you're blessed
see what pharisee hypocrites you false jw's are, and how you cannot stop lying, like your daddy god

a little of what Jesus says of you:
Mat 23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Mat 23:27  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28  Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Maximus69:
The idea i really detest is 'none denominational' because those claiming they believe in Jesus without having the place of the Apostles in their religious setting will automatically become LAWLESS{NO UNIQUE MISSION}! Matthew 7:21-23

false jw mad max
you haven't a clue what you are talking about there
and the reason you make up lies is because it is natural for you when you speak, to speak lies
like your god and father the devil:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

2Co 11:13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 
2Co 11:14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 
2Co 11:15  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works

Janosky:
Gbam!
Back then, the Pharisees refused & rejected (John8:38-44.10:36) the Son of God& the TESTIMONY of Jehovah God about his Son, Jesus Christ. (Matt3:16,17. Matt16:13-17. John 20:17,30,31).
These days, their "Jesus is Jehovah" slogan & "two persons in one spirit" FRAUD revealed who they really are (John 8:44).

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ

you are calling God a liar again



@underline,truly know nothing, God is two persons and God is a spirit,
not two spirits-gods, as you polytheist Janosky/OneJ believe

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.




@bold, and truly half baked false jw, Jesus is Jehovah


Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


....


Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


....


Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 10:17 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.


....


Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


....



Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


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Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


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Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Maximus69:
Good morning Mr Olaadegbu hope the weekend was splendid,if so let's glorify God in his infinite mercy!
You've made yourself clear enough for anyone to grasp the type of Jesus you chose,as we read in the Bible there are more than one Jesus and he himself foretold that in our time many will have different ideas about him just as many of his contemporaries also had different opinion about him. Matthew 16:13-20

it's obvious from the bible verses that Olaadegbu posted that his Jesus is the Jesus of the bible
but something even that clear is not clear to one who has been blinded:
2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Maximus69: So the contradictions or complications about his identity is not a new thing,that is the more reason why each and every interested person need to be sure of his/her source of information. Matthew 5:3
Your presentation regarding the personality of Jesus is clear to me Sir but i'll prefer that of the JWs more due to thorough comparisons and harmony with historical facts. I believe Jesus is coming to judge the world NOT due to whatever each person calls him{Matthew 7:21-23} but on how obedient they are towards his commands! Matthew 7:24-27,28:20
So whether someone say Jesus is his/her driver,butler,cook,cleaner,gardener,gateman,messenger, farmer,carpenter,barber even housekeeper all that Jehovah requires of such a person is obedience to all instructions perceived to have been issued by Jesus of Nazareth. Jehovah spoke directly from heaven 'this is my SON the beloved,continue obeying him',but if you're convinced now that the one who spoke from heaven is still the same person he presented as 'my SON' it's OK, the admonition is just to continue obeying Jesus' instructions that' all. John 3:16-18

as for me the Father and the Son is two persons, not one person as you said, but one God, john 1:1 plus many other

God is a Spirit, john 4:24, Father and the Word have the God Spirit, just as your father and you have the human spirit

there is the Father-God, there is the word-God, there is Jesus Christ-the Son of God, God is not flesh but Spirit

Jesus is God the Word in the flesh, both man and God



Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Janosky:
Lying Pharisee & charlatans pretending to be Christians....

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ

you call God's word lies, of course you would you are false jw and of the devil:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

OLAADEGBU:
The difference between us is our source of authority. Mine is the infallible word of God and yours is the Watchtower magazine. My authority says that there were more than one nail that was used in the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ which proves that He died on a Cross. My authority also tells me who exactly Jesus is.

Jehovah spoke through the prophet Isaiah:

"I am God and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:22). We know only Jehovah is God.

He further says in verse 23

"I have sworn by myself...that unto Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear"

So if every knee will bow to only one being, who is that one being?

"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" (Philippians 2:10-11)

If we only bow to God alone, then Jesus must be Jehovah and both are the same God.

You must believe that we must only pray to Jehovah, right? If yes, then you would have read in Acts chapter 7 where Stephen was being stoned to death but he saw Jesus standing at the right of the Father. Who did Stephen pray to? He prayed to Jesus and Jesus received his prayer and his spirit because Jesus is God.

After Jesus died and rose again, He appeared to 'doubting Thomas' and Thomas called Him "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28).

If Jesus is not God then that's blasphemy! But Jesus accepted Thomas' worship because Jesus is God. Remember the words of Isaiah the prophet that I quoted earlier.

"I am God and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:22).

The apostle Peter testified of our Lord Jesus Christ to the high priest, saying:

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).

Matthew 1:22-23 fulfils the prophecy of Isaiah 7:14. Mary, a virgin, bore a child. That child, Jesus...was called "Immanuel" which means "God with us."

Jesus lived a perfect life. People tried to find fault in Him because He did things only God was supposed to do. (See Mark 2:5-7; John 10:31-33).

Evil men beat Jesus, then killed him the Roman way; by crucifixion and remember the 2 nails print on His hands (John 20:25).

Three days later Jesus raised His own body from the grave, just as He promised. Only God could raise His own body (See John 2:19-21; 10:17-18). Do you know this Jesus?

Maximus69:
Certainly you're a TRUE christian Sir. God bless you!

false jw mad max

the only time a lying pharisee false jw
can tell the truth, is when being sarcastic:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Maximus69:
Please Mr Olaadegbu, is this person called johnw47 also a member of your church,or just an unknown radical commentator?
Please Mr Olaadegbu i'll be glad to have your response on my question Sir!

false jw mad max
weak emotions are not of God

they are off your god though:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Maximus69:
Hmmm well i just hope i'm safe if living next to you without sharing your opinion. Because even if i am of the devil as you asserts,and i choose to lie to my own soul it would still be more reasonable to allow me live peacefully with my devilish believes than labelling me 'mad' when i've done practically nothing to offend or hurt you!
If this is how fierce and intolerant you are towards someone whose beliefs differ from yours, what exactly is the difference between you and a terrorist?

false jw mad max

ha ha, false jw emotional nonsense

Maximus69:
Even Jesus instruct his listeners to pick VIRTUOUS things from the teachings of Pharisees and at the same time warned them to be careful of their evil deeds. Matthew 23:3
Note Sir,that Jesus was emphatic about Pharisees saying one thing but doing another thing, NOT when what they does is in compliance with the fruit of God's holy spirit e.g 'showing respect for whoever respect you' 1Peter 3:15
So our Lord Jesus Christ himself will never rule out virtuous works no matter where it is found. Matthew 8:10
Angrily labelling ones fellow man as 'mad' just because of differences in beliefs is totally strange from the perspectives of the early christians Sir!

pharisee false jw mad max
it was only a matter of time before your false accusations show
not angry at all, in fact happy at showing false jw's to be liars
and happy to make up names to suit

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus69:
It's OK Sir,you've made yourself clear enough to be understood. So have it in mind that you've not been arguing with devoted JWs because they will NEVER go against the instruction of their GB.

false jw mad max
i agree, they are not devoted jw's
they are not even devoted false jw's, but half baked false jw's

Maximus69: And as for learning 'any thing of VIRTUE' from JWs,you and i differs in reasoning Sir considering Apostle Paul's letter to the Philippians @ 4:8. Thanks for a hearty contribution Sir!

what you call the virtue of false jw, is self righteousness like that of your ancestors the pharisees

half baked false jw lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ

Janosky:
The exposure of your Trinity scam dey pain you like hot chili pepper rubbed into a fresh wound sotay you dey vex like wounded lion, just like your father the" roaring lion" seeking to devour gullible people with satanic doctrines.
In heaven, Jesus is still the Son of Jehovah God. , he called "my Father" ( Rev 3:14 ,21.) & Jehovah is still the Head of Jesus in heaven when Paul wrote 1 Cor11:3.

oh cannot stop lying false jw pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ
truly, it does not bother me one little bit what you copycat know nothing think about the trinity doctrine, ha ha

Janosky: Your Trinity scam is safe in the rubbish dump.
"Blessed be Jehovah, the God and FATHER of our lord Jesus Christ."
Eph 1:3.

you are so tormented by the trinity doctrine you cannot stop talking about it, laugh

Janosky/Onej confused false jw and disbeliever of God
truly the Word Jesus Christ was not created:

truly disbeliever of God, the Word Jesus Christ created all that was created
nothing was created without Jesus


truly lying twister of God's word, Father God had the Word Jesus Christ created everything that was created
Father God never created anything except by Jesus, without Jesus was nothing made, oh duh duh duh:

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.


lying pharisee deceiver half baked false jw Janosky/OneJ
Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

^^^ no one travels more than false jw's in doing their god of this world's work

Act 13:10  And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? 

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus69:
Hi Sir,why do you have to label someone who has not cursed or abused you 'mad'? Is it by force that i must think the way you do?

false jw mad max
you are very sensitive to be upset by being called "mad max"

Maximus69: Sir i thought it's only Mr Hairyrapunzel that is aggressive in this podium,are you also of that sort?
Please Sir i've been trained by DEVOTED members of the JWs to be tactful and respectful always,though before now i would be thinking of how to trade insults with you but thanks to Jehovah i'm now a new personality{changed person}.Ephesians 4:24,Colossians 3:10

what i'm hearing from you is typical false jw pharisee self righteousness, maybe false jw's taught you that
maybe you were already that way, but i'm not interisted in your life story

Maximus69: I think you too need to learn such virtuous attributes from devoted JWs and stop this fruitless,worthless,abusive,insulting,curses and unwarranted arguments with those half baked JWs.
God bless you!

truly i won't be learning anything from satans mob

@ bold, well you got that part right

Maximus69:
Sir, i've been trained{though not yet a member} by devoted members of JWs

I chose to become one of them

mad max, there was never any doubt about it, and it's where you belong:

johnw47:
you would make a good false jw max, they lie like hell also

Maximus69: i won't accept a discuss from someone who gets easily angered emotionally because religious intolerance has led many to early grave,been killed or end up killing themselves!

you are talking about your false jw brother Janosky/OneJ

are you still around brothel mouth?

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ
Jesus and paul speak of you:

Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

^^^ no one travels more than false jw's in doing their god of this world's work

Act 13:10  And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? 

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Crooked spiritual fraudster, "the Head of Christ is God" 1Cor11:3.

confused false jw
Father is the head of the Son, oh duh who would have thought

Janosky: Mumu Pharisee, Jesus said "the scriptures can not be broken... I am God's son" John 10:34-36.

confused know nothing
oh duh again, yes Jesus is God's Son, mary didn't give birth to His Spirit the word of God
as you argued against me for posts and posts

Janosky: Why did you omit Col1:13-15 , ("The Father... transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of His love.... (who is ) the exact likeness of the unseen God. He is the first born of ALL creation" (( in other words, "Lord Jehovah created me", ( his son Jesus) at the beginning of his creation and from before ALL of his works",Prov 8:22 ))
those verses DESTROYED your twisted ,WAYO interpretation of Col1:16,17.

i omitted nothing oh great liar like your daddy, i posted all that is necessary and which you don't believe:

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Janosky: **** Again, 1Cor 15:24-27 further DESTROYED your twisted ,WAYO interpretation of Col1:16,17.

scripture does not contradict scripture, you do that
because you don't have any understanding

Janosky: "vs16.... All things were created and exist THROUGH him ((Greek "Dia autou " is also the same exact word in John 1:3)). It rhymes with Pro8;27, " I was there when HE Jehovah established the heavens...
v30"Then I was the craftsman at his side"

*** "By him" is a cheap FRAUD to distort the scriptures.

** Spiritual fraudster dey twist & import wayo ideas & fake interpretation into the holy Bible.

*** Prov30:6 & Rev 22:18,19 still dey ring alarm to you.

truly disbeliever of God, the Word Jesus Christ created all that was created
nothing was created without Jesus


truly lying twister of God's word, Father God had the Word Jesus Christ created everything that was created
Father God never created anything except by Jesus, without Jesus was nothing made, oh duh duh duh:

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 

Janosky: ** Like I told you before, coming to a JW thread was your gross error.
Your Trinity scam done scatter & fall yakata..

oh puffed up self righteous pharisee
ha ha, on the contrary i successfully come here to show false jw's to be liars, taking after your daddy and god, the father of lies

Janosky: *** Last last, come and twist & dey misquote John 8:44.

lying pharisee deceiver janosky/OneJ
i will quote it for you exactly as it applies, oh son of the devil:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/oneJ
Jesus created everything in heaven and in earth, so He clearly didn't create Himself, stupidity brain:

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 

Jesus is before all things, so He of course is before the angels, oh false teacher and twister of God's word Janosky/OneJ:

Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.



Jesus is before all things, He created the angels and all things that were created

and you lying false jw's say the Word Jesus was created and is a angel and is a god

so evil like your daddy devil:

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Crooked LIAR & twister , bring proof here that Jehovah's witnesses taught you that Gen1:26 referred strictly " to God and the angels".

false accuser brothel mouth Janosky /OneJ
when i was discussing gen 1:26 long ago and pointed out that the verse was concerning God talking with the Word
a false jw said it was God was talking with the angels
you go back and search for it son of your father satan

Janosky: ** Johnw lying Pharisee & twister, " the Lord possessed Wisdom He didn't create Wisdom", FRAUD !

Yahweh created the one personified as 'Wisdom' in Pro8:22,27, stop twisting the holy scriptures , Jesus himself said he is the "Wisdom of God"(Luke 11:49. Matt23:34. 1cor1:24,30 ).
** Mr LIAR, everyone knows that Prov8:22-30, referenced Jesus Christ, your lie lie no fit change am.

oh duh lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ of no understanding
of course Wisdom in proverbs is the Word Jesus Christ, and the chapter is talking about literal wisdom also, the Wisdom of God, which Jesus is, oh know nothing lying Janosky/OneJ
and truly the word is God, john 1:1, and God is not created oh son of the devil who disbelieves God and is confused as hell

Janosky: **** The same Hebrew word (qanah > To erect ,CREATE, to get, procure, to own, Acquire, Possess"
. Sourced from Strong's Hebrew 7069). in Prov 8:22 is also the same word at Gen4:1"I have GOTTEN a man by Jehovah', Deu32:6"your CREATOR,who MADE you & FORMED you".Gen14:19,22" CREATOR (Possessor). Psalms 139:12.https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/qanah.html.

How did Jehovah Possessed, Acquired ,Created , Procured the spirit being personified as Wisdom in Prov8:22?

Spiritual fraudsters wey dey change & misquote holy scriptures , dey form Christian.

oh duh duh duh know nothing Janosky/OneJ
so using ones brain if you had a brain and taking the two verses in their context
God created(qanah) cain for eve, gen 4:1
and God posessed(qanah) wisdom, pro 8:22, God didn't create wisdom, God always posessed wisdom who became flesh oh know nothing
Janosky/oneJ of no understanding and disbelieving God, and great false accuser like yout father the devil:

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

lying pharisee deceiver OneJ
liars have no part in God

but you are part of your god:

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/oneJ
the cartoon below depicts satan and his children the false jw's very well, can you see it?

Janosky:
Spiritual fraudster, Jesus, angels or Adam, who was created first ?

ha ha ha, oh tormented false jw, truly the Word wasn't created:
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

and angels were created before adam, oh know nothing, laugh

Janosky: Prov8:22,27 who did Jehovah "created at the beginning of his creation? Who was there when Jehovah "established the heavens"?

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ
Jehovah didn't create anyone at the beginning of creation, at the beginning of creation was God and Wisdom the word
nothing was created that the word did not create, john 1:3 above oh duh one
the LORD possessed Wisdom He didn't create wisdom, He always possessed Wisdom, stupidity brain

and Jehovah God-Father and Wisdom the word, created the heavens, you don't understand anything oh duh one
and you don't believe God

Janosky: ** Yahweh said "let us make man..." that's Yahweh's further proof that your so called "the father and the word is two persons in one spirit" is a cheap FRAUD.

know nothing false jw Janosky/OneJ
of course gen 1:26 is two persons, Father and the word, u so duh duh
by the way it is not God and the angels, like you false jw's believe
and of course God is a spirit-one spirit, and not two spirits as you believe, mighty god jesus and almighty god father

Janosky: Crooked twister, one spirit can be NEVER be "us" !!
Senseless crook says "us" means one spirit shared by two persons (alu mere !). Lol
Go & attempt the Jamb questions above, your trinity scam done scatter & fall yakata

false accuser and
lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ

truly Father and the Word is "us"-two persons, ha ha ha
truly Father and the word is God, one spirit

oh stupidity brain

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ
lets see you do the twist again

Father and the Word is God, john 1:1

the Word created all that was created, john 1:3

but you false jw's teach that God was talking to the angels when He said:
"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"
and so according to you false jw's God and the angels created man, ha ha ha


 

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
of course nothing was made that the Word didn't make, shows that the Word wasn't made
false jw's add words to their book and change the truth into a lie, as they do in other places also

Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Janosky:
Your deceptive cartoon is proof that you, Johnw47 lying Pharisee is not a friend of Jesus, you don't even know him!
Exponent of "Jesus is Jehovah" fraud, you can NEVER be your father & it is spiritually criminal to claim he did it.

*** "Blessed be the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ.."

**" ... I bend my knees to the Father, to whom every family in heaven and on earth OWES its name" Eph1:3. Eph 3:14,15.

Johnw get special talent & PhD for twisting scriptures

" For this very reason, God exalted him & gave him a name that is above every other name,so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend...."

** Shebi Una see am?
Jehovah the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ gave Jesus a name above every other name.
Oba of Lagos go exalt you & your own name/ position go pass the Oba own?

***These Pharisees are incredibly foolish & without sense , that's Trinity scam at work.

know nothing pharisee Janosky/OneJ of no understanding

cartoons torment you, ha ha,
truly the Son is not the Father, but they are God, john 1:1
it's all been explained many times but you will never understand
you have been blinded, oh cannot stop lying false jw:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee ,the most talented LIAR on NL & Uncrowned Nobel Laureate for Falsehood, dey open him Trinity eyes & false hooded mouth dey lie & change the decree of Yahweh in Pro8:22,27 & Jesus' confessional statement in John 5;26 "The Father Jehovah granted life to Jesus & every other living being .

** At least, make you fear Yahweh nau, abi you done forget "don't add & don't subtract" decree of Yahweh in Pro30:6 & Rev22:18,19?

*** Who did Jehovah " created at the beginning of his creation from before all of his works" ?
Who is the created being that was there when Jehovah " established the heavens"?

*** @Rev 3:14, who calls himself "the beginning of the creation by God"?

***@ Rev3:21 , who said " I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne"?
Where did he make the above statement ,in heaven or earth?

** Spiritual fraudster & lying Pharisee Johnw47, what's the meaning of 'beget'? how did the "Father beget Son"?

ha ha ha, i have answered them all for you more than once

lying pharisee deceiver janosky/OneJ
you ask the same things over and over again because you have no understanding
of the replies given or of the bible verses posted
i would say go back and read the replies again, except you haven't a clue and will never understand, oh false accuser like your daddy devil:

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

brocab:
No" his dreaming" with name like these-I believe before Tatime existed these were his user names from the past-I don't know them-he thinks I designed Cartoons, about the JW's, but I do think putting these on page was a great idea-I like reading them, they are so true. I haven't been spending time with them bro, they haven't a clue, which way is Up..

that is certain, down is their destination

Psa 36:12  There are the workers of iniquity fallen: they are cast down, and shall not be able to rise.

brocab:
No" his dreaming" with name like these-I believe before Tatime existed these were his user names from the past-I don't know them-he thinks I designed Cartoons, about the JW's, but I do think putting these on page was a great idea-I like reading them, they are so true. I haven't been spending time with them bro, they haven't a clue, which way is Up..

peace is in christians, confusion is in the false jw's
1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

what a friend christians have in Jesus

^^^ you lying false jw's think you are God's orginisation, you think you know Father God and the word Jesus christ
but your father jehovah is clearly satan the devil and your jesus clearly a false jesus

no liar is of God:
Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.