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Mandeyy:
You mean that Times Higher education website is a reputable ranking platform? You're kidding! Moreover, the same website didn't say that LASU is the best state university in Nigeria. In fact, screenshot where it said that. Rather, it ranked it the 149th in the world.

You lack the mind and ability of empirical deduction. LASU came second best university after UI, invariably it is the best state University without question and rancour.

And please state which other platform is better than times higher.

Mandeyy:
Chai! Your ignorance is extremely nauseating. Any school can give a biased piece of information that it's the best in undergraduate and postgraduate medical education. Every university does that. They're the ones that give out the information to be published on those websites. You're an ignoramuse numero uno. Chai!!!

Nowhere was it stated there that it's the 4th best. Stop giving out fake information. I really think you should go back and read up mastery of comprehension in secondary school.

I read everything on the site, and I didn't see the 4th best.

Mr. Mandeyy, okay I put it to you which other medical school is better than UI-UCH in Nigeria? If you're man enough answer this and don't ignore, which you have been evasive about. ANSWER ME

Mandeyy:
Elseview you cited, didn't state anything about the UI's 9 lecturers you mentioned before.

Besides, the Statisense isn't a recognized authority. Since you mentioned Stanford University, go direct to Stanford website and get the information so that it'll be authentic. Also, you earlier wrote about the UI's 9 lecturers being among the world's 2% best, without actually stating the researches undertaken by them that caught the eyes of the international scientific community. You even made it seem as if it were the UI alone in Nigeria that produced all those scientists. Now, you've given an unreliable Statisense statistics that even mentioned that other Nigerian universities' lecturers are part of the world's 2%.

I have shown you that it is a statistical research conducted by some authorities from Stanford and published, which is seen presently in Elsevier and Scopus but you chose to be impatient and myopic because you have already taken an ignomible stance. Even when National newspapers and statisense made a summary of the well global recognise article, because you're lazy and incapable to do such, you decided to discredit Elsevier, Statisense,Tribune and other National newspapers because you're pained that it's not your "world class EBSU".

Mandeyy:
Where was it stated in those links that it ranks the 4th best as you stated in your previous comments? It partners with Harvard Chan, so do other teaching hospitals in Nigeria. You really lack understanding. The pepfar programme isn't only in the UCH. Some Nigerian teaching hospitals have it too. You're extremely ignorant! You're not well informed. I need not waste my precious time discussing the irrelevant issues you always churn out here. You're a kid!

For example, in heart disease, the UNTH Enugu is a reference hospital. In lassa fever, Covid 19 and VVF, my teaching hospital is also a reference hospital in the South East, and partners with foreign donors too. You hardly find a teaching hospital or FMC in Nigeria that doesn't partner with a reputable foreign medical organization. So, I find this post of yours laughable.

I pity this your defenceless state of self-imposed ignorance. I provided website you didn't click to read with the purest of heart. I provided screen shot you chose to ignore by not reading from one of the most reputable and prestigious university in the world,Havard. Where it was stated clearly that UCH is the leader in undergraduate and postgraduate medical education and training.

Mandeyy:
You didn't get those fake information from Harvard Times and Scopus. You got them from Tribune Newspaper. Havard times didn't say that. No university in Nigeria is among the top 8 universities in Africa, let alone the UI taking the 4th position. The UI took the 16th position in the ranking I saw.

I provided proof with all what I have been saying by siting reputable website like Times higher education, which is unarguably the most reputable University ranking platform in the world. If you don't like it go and create your own platform and rate EBSU as number one in the world.

Mandeyy:
Which UCH is the number one to go? I laugh at your ignorance. We saw how relatives of the deceased patients complained of the incompetence of the UCH doctors and the obvious lack of equipment that should have been handy. The news is on Nairaland here. One of the relatives described the UCH as a death trap.

You didn't get those fake information from Harvard Times and Scopus. You got them from Tribune Newspaper. Havard times didn't say that. No university in Nigeria is among the top 8 universities in Africa, let alone the UI taking the 4th position. The UI took the 16th position in the ranking I saw.

Which medical infrastructure does the UCH have, yet the relatives of the deceased patients complained of lack of the necessary facilities in the UCH? Stop ranting. No federal government hospital is adequately equipped. The sooner you tell yourself the truth, the better it'll be for you.

Ignoramus. Please can you tell us which other teaching hospital is better than UCH Ibadan in Nigeria? Please, answer. I'm waiting ooo.....

jolly94:
Mr. Man this your ascertion is laughable and crass. UCH is the number one reference hospital in Nigeria and West Africa at large. And one of the fourth best teaching hospital in Africa. So you know more than Harvard's Chan School of Public health, Times higher education, and Scopus. Peradventure, any medical case eludes your FMC converted teaching hospital, it will be referred to UCH.

https://sites.sph.harvard.edu/global-health-research-partnership/sites-2/university-of-ibadan-university-college-hospital-nigeria/

https://www.scimagoir.com/institution.php?idp=54948

You're a bat, that is blind to the truth. Is this not Harvard website I shared. You ignored all the sited website to clutch at your weak straw of ignorance, just to prove your myopic reasonings and ascertions downplaying UI. Thank God other forumites can see and judge for themselves.

Mandeyy:
Where was it stated in those links that it ranks the 4th best as you stated in your previous comments? It partners with Harvard Chan, so do other teaching hospitals in Nigeria. You really lack understanding. The pepfar programme isn't only in the UCH. Some Nigerian teaching hospitals have it too. You're extremely ignorant! You're not well informed. I need not waste my precious time discussing the irrelevant issues you always churn out here. You're a kid!

For example, in heart disease, the UNTH Enugu is a reference hospital. In lassa fever, Covid 19 and VVF, my teaching hospital is also a reference hospital in the South East, and partners with foreign donors too. You hardly find a teaching hospital or FMC in Nigeria that doesn't partner with a reputable foreign medical organization. So, I find this post of yours laughable.

Mandeyy:
Just mention where I said it. That's all I want you to do. Forever keep quiet if you cannot mention where I said it.

If that's not what you inferred then why are you trying to make a point to prove your myopic ascertions? Mr. Egghead made a statement, which is true in all it ramification. It not going well with you because of your low self-esteem in that your manageable EBSU, you decided to rant and bark like a rabid dog trying to downplay the enviable reputation of UI.

Mandeyy:
I believe your UI is the low grade medical school, not mine, since some patients had complained of the incompetent doctors at UCH. We saw that on Nairaland here.

Can you beat your chest and say unequivocally without ambiguity that a second rate medical school like EBSU is better than UI? Incompetent doctors in UCH? Ahhhhh..... You're laughable and incurable. The number one teaching hospital in West Africa.

Mandeyy:
My coursemate who couldn't make even second class upper and had extra years while I was serving, wrote Jamb and got admission into medicine at UI. He's now in final year. With this, you'll be cured of your ignorance.

Your coursemate not making second class upper then does not change the fact that he has healthy brains cells or incapable to improve his mental capacity. He simply saw is weakness, worked hard and smart ( by choosing UI). And today he is in such an enviable position as a final year medical student in the most prestigious medical school in the country. And by the way just look at how you downgraded the ability and power of change of your supposed close friend. I hope thats not how you treat your close friends and relatives.

Mandeyy:
Ignorance is your undoing. In fact, you lack the ability to comprehend anything?

If you really had comprehension capability, you would have seen where I wrote that FMC was different from EBSU teaching hospital built in 1991 in Enugu State and was merged with the FMC during the Elechi administration. You even asserted from the beginning that EBSU teaching hospital isn't a makeshift hospital from FMC. So, I have nothing to tell you again.

Moreover, nobody ever told you that the management of EBSU isn't comfortable with it. Ignorance is your problem, guy.

You didn't even know what transpired between Umahi and the EBSU management with regard to the new university built by him. You just opened your mouth wide and started vomiting trash. I still maintain that you're ignorant of that.

Nowhere was the FMC converted to EBSU teaching hospital. EBSU teaching hospital was built in 1991, while the FMC was built as a general hospital in the 70's. You have number 1 position in writing what you're not sure of.

With all what you wrote, it still does not change the fact that EBSU teaching hospital is not an extension of the Federal Medical Centre in Ebonyi. You're just buttressing all what I have been saying. Did you and your colleagues at clinicals not take clinical instructions from FMC, yes or no? Answer, please. If the EBSU teaching hospital built in 1991 is sufficient enough, then what's the need for the merger with FMC?

Mandeyy:
Which UCH is the number one to go? I laugh at your ignorance. We saw how relatives of the deceased patients complained of the incompetence of the UCH doctors and the obvious lack of equipment that should have been handy. The news is on Nairaland here. One of the relatives described the UCH as a death trap.

You didn't get those fake information from Harvard Times and Scopus. You got them from Tribune Newspaper. Havard times didn't say that. No university in Nigeria is among the top 8 universities in Africa, let alone the UI taking the 4th position. The UI took the 16th position in the ranking I saw.

Which medical infrastructure does the UCH have, yet the relatives of the deceased patients complained of lack of the necessary facilities in the UCH? Stop ranting. No federal government hospital is adequately equipped. The sooner you tell yourself the truth, the better it'll be for you.

Ignoramus. I'm not susprised that you fail to assess all the websites that was provided by me because you have chosen to take an ignorant stance. Well you can keep this decrepit habit of yours. I'm sure in the nearest future it will do you no good when you meet your Waterloo.

Mandeyy:
I laugh at you. ���� You only stated about world's top 2 scientists by Stanford University on researchgate. I'm on researchgate, but I've not come across your claim about UI's 9 lecturers being ranked some of the best. Could you kindly show me where it's on researchgate or keep quiet?

These are links for the cure of your self-exalted ignorance. You may as well say that I should help you to download the files from Elsevier.

https://elsevier.digitalcommonsdata.com/datasets/btchxktzyw/3

https://tribuneonlineng.com/gureje-farombi-others-make-list-of-top-world-scientists/

https://www.nairaland.com/6446837/71-nigerian-scientists-among-top

Mandeyy:
Even if they offer me admission into medicine in UI, I won't attend school there, because I know that every medical school in Nigeria accredited to offer medicine has the requisite manpower for medical training.

As I wrote earlier, I had my first degree education in a federal university. So, my experience then showed me that both private, state and federal universities are the same.

I would rather you cure yourself from this obvious delusion. I would rather say that you're not good enough to lay claim of admission in UI, ABU, UNILAG,UNN, OAU, and UNIBEN, that's why you ran from UNN. Besides you were not even given admission in UNN irrespective of its Skewed admission process to study medicine.

If I were you I will humble myself and make do with what is available (which is obvious) and add value to myself to complement the deficit of medical education in EBSU, instead of having a self imposed myopic reasonings that all medical school have same standard and quality.

It's only those who wholly and really cherish in being in one of the first generation medical schools and was denied of a long childhood dream will be concocting such shameful invectives to console him or herself ( it's obvious you occupy an executive position in such group of people).

Stay humble, read wide, add value, and pray to have opportunities that will expose you to respectable medical cases, clinical exposure, infrastructure and opportunities in a high class medical institutions ( which should be the goal of any sensible and ambitious medical student irrespective of where he or she is trained).

Mandeyy:
Moreover, all those citations you gave about UI and her staff are not internationally aclaimed. Until you quote internationally peer-reviewed journals where their names and researches were published, I cannot take you serious.

I can see that you lack the wit and impetus to seek for knowledge which is one of the inherent ability of a well taught medical student. Just a simple Google search will cure your self imposed ignorance. Find below a renowned journal site researchgate.net. You can also check Scopus and Elsevier.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/345921476_World's_Top_2_Scientists_by_Stanford_University-_Dr_John_Ioannidis_and_team

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3000918

Mandeyy:
The above comment is an extremely senseless, false and archaic comment which is laughable, because it's devoid of truth.

EBSU has a teaching hospital. There was only one Federal Medical Centre before. So, the Federal Teaching Hospital has two hospitals all fully equipped. One is the former FMC, while the other is the former EBSU teaching hospital merged to the FMC to become Federal Teaching Hospital. The agreement signed with the FG during the merger still says that the latter still belongs to EBSU for the training of medical doctors and other health workers. That's why when the Alex Ekwueme Federal University's preclinical students passed their 2nd MBBS, they went to the FMC part of the Federal Teaching Hospital to where they rightly belong, to start their clinical training. So, it's balderdash to ask: does EBSU have a proper teaching hospital? It has a proper teaching hospital. The merger doesn't give everything to the Federal Government. That's the agreement. It's only the FMC part that wholly belongs to the FG, because it was her hospital before the merger.

With all what you wrote it still does not change the fact that EBSU teaching hospital is not a makeshift teaching hospital from a converted FMC. In fact the Federal Government still owns a large chunk of your FMC converted Teaching hospital.

That's why when Gov. Dave Umahi was constructing a befitting Teaching hospital, you lots were mastubating about it with all sorts of lucid fantasy. If your FMC converted Teaching hospital is befitting enough for a 21st century Modern Teaching hospital, why is the management of EBSU not comfortable with it?

Gov. Dave Umahi with his right sense of judgement and observations saw that EBSU lacks the prerequisite standard and manpower to put into proper and judicious use of the newly built teaching hospital by declining the request of EBSU to be in charge. That teaching hospital is now a University of medical sciences under the management of the Roman Catholic church.

https://thewhistler.ng/gov-umahi-hands-over-newly-built-medical-university-to-catholic-church/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/07/nuc-approves-establishment-of-ebonyi-medical-varsity/

Mandeyy:
Your lack of comprehension is one of the most embarrassing characteristics of a medical student I've ever seen. This is because I never wrote that EBSU medical school is better than UI medical school. Rather, I wrote that both of them have the same quality and standard as against the first commentator who said that the standard varies in both schools.

Don't deceive yourself that all medical school have same quality and standard so far that it's accredited because that's a pure lie from the pit of hell. You can as well say EBSU has same standard and quality as that of Harvard or Stanford. Stop consoling yourself if you can't enter UI, ABU, UNILAG,OAU and UNIBEN with such fallacy. Medical school pass Medical school. Same way UI is not comparable to Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge, Stanford and other world renowned and reputable medical schools because that's is the reason why their's ranking and competition. It's far fetched. The only way you can help yourself from a low grade medical school is by making improvement on yourself.

Mandeyy:
All those publications you posted are just meaningless. This is Africa where there's lack of truth. The same Hi-Tech equipment deficit that rocks UI medical school rocks every public medical school in Nigeria. So, stop ranting nonsense.

Definitely they are gaps and shortages, but still it doesn't give you the impetus to blab such incoherent and nonsense ascertions. By your ascertions, Harvard, Times higher education and Scopus lack truth. UCH is the number one go to teaching hospital in Nigeria and a behemoth in healthcare. And by the way you can't compare your FMC converted teaching hospital in terms of medical infrastructure to UCH. That qualifies as heresy.

Mandeyy:
All those publications you posted are just meaningless. This is Africa where there's lack of truth. The same Hi-Tech equipment deficit that rocks UI medical school rocks every public medical school in Nigeria. So, stop ranting nonsense.

So you mean you have higher authority and judgement over established and reputable publications? You're a comic relief for depressed children. UCH as a teaching hospital with the highest funding from the Federal Government amongs all its peers, will lack basic medical infrastructure? Inasmuch as we know that the Federal allocation to health is low does not give you the impetus to blab incoherent and nonsense ascertions.

https://punchng.com/osinbajo-says-uch-will-get-fund-for-facility-upgrade/

Mandeyy:
Moreover, which UCH, Ibadan is superb? We saw on Nairaland here how incompetent doctors at UCH Ibadan caused the death of a woman. Another person called it a death trap. All those publications you posted are just meaningless. This is Africa where there's lack of truth. The same Hi-Tech equipment deficit that rocks UI medical school rocks every public medical school in Nigeria. So, stop ranting nonsense.

Mr. Man this your ascertion is laughable and crass. UCH is the number one reference hospital in Nigeria and West Africa at large. And one of the fourth best teaching hospital in Africa. So you know more than Harvard's Chan School of Public health, Times higher education, and Scopus. Peradventure, any medical case eludes your FMC converted teaching hospital, it will be referred to UCH.

https://sites.sph.harvard.edu/global-health-research-partnership/sites-2/university-of-ibadan-university-college-hospital-nigeria/

https://www.scimagoir.com/institution.php?idp=54948

Mandeyy:
Moreover, which LASU? Is it the LASU that is bedeviled with lack of infrastructure?

Now are you comparing LASU to EBSU? LASU which is the best state University according to times higher education. You must be suffering from delusion of grandeur. In fact as of this year it was rated as the second best after UI. So you're saying you know more than times higher education and other experts in ranking.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/lagos-state-university

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/best-universities/best-universities-nigeria

Mandeyy:
Where in my previous comment did I tell you that EBSU medical school is better than UI medical school? I believe you lack the ability to comprehend a comment.

Mr. Mandeyy go back to your previous statement. You indirectly and shamelessly inferred so. So it's obvious that either you don't know how to communicate your thoughts properly or you're a blatant lier, because it's clear for any one to see and come to conclusion.

Mandeyy:
What do you think is in UI that's not in EBSU? Your comment is one of the most senseless comments of 2021. The two medical schools were accredited to train medical students to become qualified medical doctors. So, none is superior to the other.

You should have cautioned your fellow UI student who started the comparison.

Moreover, I have people at UI. So, UI medical school isn't superior to EBSU medical school. It's students like you that make unnecessary comparison. Medical doctors don't do that, because it's what you give out as a medical doctor that determines the stuff you're made of.

Mr. Mandeyy I will still reiterate again and again, that this your comment of EBSU better than UI is one of the most senseless and biased comments I have seen in this forum in 2021. And the funniest part of it is that some set of people liked that your fallacious and misleading comment. You can as well conclude that the whole of EBSU as a University is better than UI. UI medical school is a template and reference for any medical school in Nigeria and West Africa. And top 5 best in Africa. I won't be susprise if you don't know that the bedrock of UI is CoMUI and UCH Ibadan.

You can't even compare EBSU and LASU. Which indices do you want to use to rate EBSU more than UI. Is it in research, quality of research papers and articles published, infrastructure, teaching, clinical exposure, innovation, international outlook, quality of medical graduate, mode of admission, medical school curriculum ( which is a template for other schools), teaching hospital ( best in West Africa), quality and exposure of staff ( very recently 8 staff members in Biochemistry, psychiatry, Obstetrics and gynecology and medicine are rated in top 2% best scientists in the world by researchers from Stanford University) etc., name it.

By computing the average rankings of 2021 and 2022 UI medical school is among top 250 in the world according to times higher education ranking ( the most reliable University ranking platform in the world). By implication this means that it is better than 80% of medical schools in UK and US. An average UI medical school graduate is ahead of an average graduate from other schools (Most Nigerian doctors making waves and input in UK and US are graduate of UI).

LASU medical school should not even be in the same sentence with that of EBSU, talk more of one of the most Prestigious medical school in Africa. Does EBSU even have a proper teaching hospital? Are they not still using one of the Federal Medical Centres in Ebonyi state? Please, next time restrain yourself from making such outrageous,blatant and blasphemous comment. If this was to be an argument in theology, your comments will be classified as blasphemy.

I'm very sure if you were offered admission to UI medical school, you will ditch that of EBSU with immediate alacrity. For the fact that UNN has a skewed admission process, doesn't give you the leeway to generalize. And please I do await a constructive argument from you.

https://tribuneonlineng.com/gureje-farombi-others-make-list-of-top-world-scientists/
https://worldscholarshipforum.com/top-ten-best-medical-institutes-in-africa/
ttps://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/university-ibadan

Mandeyy:
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Please, stop using EBSU to compare with UI. I did my first degree in the biological sciences in a federal university, and I can tell you that federal universities are not better than state universities, UI inclusive. Even the little time I stayed in dentistry in UNN confirmed it too.

Stop making unnecessary comparison. An EBSU medical graduate came first during the test conducted for prospective house officers at LUTH then.

Most federal universities rush their medical calendar and don't really have time to cover some areas, believing that you'll still do them in residency. UI do it too. However, some of these state universities don't rush. They're meticulous.

EBSU also has those big heads in medicine too, who retired after years of teaching in UNN, and some of them trained abroad like you have in UI too. Even the current VC of EBSU, Prof. Chigozie Ogbu, a paediatrician, trained in the US. He became a consultant paediatrician in the US before coming back to Nigeria. He was also formerly the deputy governor of Ebonyi State. There are so many like him in EBSU medical school.

Seriously? Are you actually comparing UI College of Medicine to EBSU? This is one of the most twisted 2021 fallacies I have come across.

Supib1997:
Here is my number
Pls be fast about it,so I can delete it

I have copied it. You can delete it. I will inform them to add you.

Damson22:
Congratulations boss
Mine is physiology

You have opportunity to cross over after first year. Work hard and smart. See you in year 2 MBBS class. Congratulations once again.

Supib1997:
Is there any WhatsApp group already? I'm also a fresher...MBBS

Yes. Text your number so I can inform the admin to add you.

Damson22:
Wow, mbbs right.

Also a fresher in UI

Hi. Guess I'm your classmate too. Are you on the WhatsApp group?

ShadowWalker00:
Thanks.

You're welcome.

ShadowWalker00:
Yes I have the scratch card with my serial, and pin confirmed.

I wrote the exam in 2019 though.

I have not gone back to my school to collect the original or statements though.

So you mean I can be cleared with just that coloured printout with scratch card as confirmation.

Definitely yes.

ShadowWalker00:
Ui students.

I have been given provisional admission in Ui.

I don't have original Waec cert. nor statement of results.

Can I use coloured printout instead during my clearance.

Yes. But you will have to have waec result checker scratch card in case of confirmation.

horpeyemmi66:
He's actually my classmate. We studied Physiology together at UI. You're not serious o Jolly.

horpeyemmi66 I sight you oo..