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Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 6:28am On Jul 12, 2016

ibrophysic:
Yes

given ur no so that we can discuss and effect ur plans.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 6:26am On Jul 12, 2016*

JamiuO:
@Jude79,

Thank you for the profit analysis. It is really informative. I have some questions for you based on your profit analysis.

1. You said the driver salary is N18,000. Don't you think the salary is small for a driver ?

2.What method of remuneration for drivers do you think is the best to increase sales?Is it commission or fixed salary?

3. Do you still give incentive when the driver does not sell up to 1200 bags in a day?

4. How do you monitor the fuel for distribution in the truck?

5. How many bags do your truck carry per trip?

Awaiting your reply.

the incentive cum salary method is the best, salary is small but compensated by incentives ie every bag sold is one naira, so 400 bags gives 400 naira times 25 days =10000. 1200 bags is the combine efforts of all the three drivers ie truck and keke put together. from ur questions it seems ur already in pure water business. Anyway u buy ur fuel urself and distribute to ur vehicle as needed, know that as u go on, u'll aquire more experience in handling workers, one thing though, be civil and considerate, but not to the extent of patronising any worker, no matter how close u are to such individual, to avoid being shortchanged.

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Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 10:48am On Jul 10, 2016

ibrophysic:
Please im based in abuja and currently considering setting up a pure water factory. Please can you give me cost implication? There is a three bedroom flat in one of the estates which i hope to modify to suit the purpose. I need the total cost of equipment and installation

do you have a borehole.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 7:46am On Jul 10, 2016

karlxavier:
Please at Jude 79, please could you explain what you actually meant in that profit calculations?

like u said cost of nylon 1.4 m. other calculations; energy, labour, miscellaneous comes in.
energy; u use 4 litres to produce 500 bags ie 30000/500=60x4= 240x145=34800~40000.
vehicles from experience consume 4x factory
consumption ie 4x40000=160000. total is 40000+160000=200000.
labour; operator= 15000. packers x2=20000. drivers 1 truck =18000 motor boy/girl 8000and 2 tricycle =28000. incentives for drivers and motor boy/girl for 1200 bags = 1200x25= 30000 manager 18000. total;
15000+20000+18000+8000+28000+30000+18000=
137000~ 140000
miscellaneous= 100000~110000
total for nylon, energy, labour, miscellaneous; 1400000+20000+140000+110000=1850000.
profit; 300000-1850000=1150000√

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Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 11:29pm On Jul 09, 2016

Emyo:
Please, answer the above questions and do give us the price of every machine

u spend 1850000 u get 1150000 what kinda profit are u looking for.

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Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 10:28am On Jul 09, 2016

JamiuO:
How many bags of Pure Water will 1kg of 36 micron of nylon give?

30 to 32 per kg ie 30000 to 32000 per tonne instead 20000 to 22000 per tonne increasing ur profit level greatly.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 10:27am On Jul 09, 2016

JamiuO:
How many bags of Pure Water will 1kg of 36 micron of nylon give?

30 to 32 per kg ie 30000 to 32000 per tonne instead 20000 to 22000 per tonne.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 9:27pm On Jul 08, 2016

JamiuO:
@Jude79

How much is 1kg of Pure Water nylon now and what is the best micron to buy?

btw 1100 to 1300 per kg depending on company, quality and micron d best micron to buy is 36 micron but not all companies has d machine that can produce it uniformly. also not all operators can set ur machine to produce satchet with it .

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 10:12pm On Jul 07, 2016

the other secret in making good profit in water is in d micron of the hdpe u use.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 10:09pm On Jul 07, 2016

JamiuO:
Jude79
Thank you for reply.
Please where is you factory located?

owerri IMO state

Politics › Re: Crack Your Brain; For The Geniuses Only by jude79(m): 2:05pm On Jul 06, 2016

1)person brought 0x. 2)u gave person 200x(goods). 3)ur neighbour gave u 1000x. 4) u collected 200x. 5)u give person 800x.
maths1
0x -200x= -200x...u, 1000x-800x=200x...u
ie -200x+200x=ox...u.1a person (p)
0x+200x=200x........p, 0x+800x=800x.....p
is 200x+800x =1000x.....p. 2 neighbour(n)
0x-1000x=-1000x..n. 3
from1 and 3
u lost 0x ur neighbour lost 1000x
maths2
-1000x(from n)+1000x(from u)=0x...n
0x-1000x=-1000x....u
ans ;person=1000x, neighbour=0x, u=-1000x

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 8:03am On Jul 05, 2016

JamiuO:
@Jude79

Still waiting for your reply.

sorry I was overwhelmed by work. 195china engine= 160000. 10kw alternator coil= 100000. total = 260000.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 10:03am On Jul 03, 2016

HAH:
I will surely comply with all requirement, my biggest problem is trademark registration, cos I learn it takes time, though I have a registered name. Is there a way of by passing the trademark registration by just using my registered business name?

no it doesn't take time. ur tademark has to be uniaue to u, u can't by pass trademark go to where u registered ur business name they'll guide u on what to do.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 9:49am On Jul 03, 2016

LBanks:
@ Jude79, I have the half plot of land already, can you give me a rough estimate of how much it will cost to establish for satchet water production, including the equipments plus nafdac inspection and registration.
Thanks

ur no so that i can whatsapp u and location, building material cost are based on location

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 9:43am On Jul 03, 2016

HAH:
Am about to set up a bakery please @jamiuO how do I go about getting the nafdac registration very fast? I asked this because I believe pure water and bread registration of nafdac might be similar. Thank you

same process as in pure water . ur bread also have to go for analysis, ensure that ur bread is bromide free or ur out.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 7:57pm On Jul 02, 2016

JamiuO:
@Jude79

What is the Kva of the generator above?

195 China sifang engine 10kw coil.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 10:21pm On Jul 01, 2016

JamiuO:
@Jude79

From my own experience, I believe the first thing to do for anybody that want to go into Pure Water business is to first dig a borehole in the premise of the factory he plan to use and do the water analysis. This is important because it guide you on the likely cost you are going to incur in buying equipment for the business. For example if your water has high level of salinity and it is also hard, you will need a reverse osmosis. Reverse osmosis is expensive compare with other equipment you need to start Pure Water business.

I have been trying to set up a Pure Water business since 2012 but I haven't been able to set it up because I have no money to buy Reverse osmosis. The water from my borehole has iron, the salinity is high and the water is hard. It is only Reverse osmosis that can treat this kind of water. So I advise that before you do anything, first dig a borehole.

@jamiu o sure very correct but I must tell u that it's not only in ur land that u can do pure water look for a place on d outskirt of ur town dt is cheap and has a good borehole but up to standard and get to work. u lost 4 yrs in WC u could have made it.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 10:19pm On Jul 01, 2016

JamiuO:
@Jude79

From my own experience, I believe the first thing to do for anybody that want to go into Pure Water business is to first dig a borehole in the premise of the factory he plan to use and do the water analysis. This is important because it guide you on the likely cost you are going to incur in buying equipment for the business. For example if your water has high level of salinity and it is also hard, you will need a reverse osmosis. Reverse osmosis is expensive compare with other equipment you need to start Pure Water business.

I have been trying to set up a Pure Water business since 2012 but I haven't been able to set it up because I have no money to buy Reverse osmosis. The water from my borehole has iron, the salinity is high and the water is hard. It is only Reverse osmosis that can treat this kind of water. So I advise that before you do anything, first dig a borehole.

@jamiu o sure very correct but I must tell u that it's not only in ur land that u can do pure water look for a place on d outskirt of ur town dt is cheap but up to standard and get to work. u lost 4 yes in WC u could have made it.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 4:21pm On Jul 01, 2016

JamiuO:
@Jude79

Some people believe the Pure Water market is saturated. What is your take on this?

really!!! wao, well vegetable market is also saturated or even other products market. well any line u enter u have to work to succeed in that line. I installed a factory for somebody in awka last 3 yrs, but to my surprise when I was passing through awka last 2 yrs, I found out that he hasn't started operating. i asked him the reason and he told me he doesn't know how to enter market, so I produced 200 bags for him and escorted him to sale the water the 1st shop we supplied had water he said the woman who owns shop won't buy, but she bought five bags. fast forward to today he has two trucks and two tricycle.

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Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 12:43pm On Jul 01, 2016

JamiuO:
@Jude79

But this tricycle is expensive. The last time I priced it, it was N500,000.
Apart from cost saving, what are the other advantages of using tricycle to distribute Pure Water.

the cost saving is not in terms of it's price but in running cost, like efficiency in fuel consumption. operating cost matters in pure water production, its one of d avenue for ur success. secondly its easy to use to penetrate inaccessible areas and increase sales it carries 70 bags and a driver can go up to 5times is 350 using only 8 to 10 litre while a petrol car pickup will use 30 litres if u sell 35000 bags / by 350 ie 100 x extra 20 litres, giving u 2000 x 145 =#290000 thatbis not small money.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 9:06am On Jul 01, 2016

JamiuO:
@ Jude79
Please send the picture of the tricycle you talked about.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 8:59am On Jul 01, 2016

JamiuO:
@Jude79
What do you mean by 200kg? How many bags of pure wlwater is that?

200kg of leather used in packaging water.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 8:58am On Jul 01, 2016

JamiuO:
@Jude79
What do you mean by 200kg? How many bags of pure wlwater is that?

200kg of leather used in packaging leather

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 8:31am On Jul 01, 2016

estybebe:
Good day OP, is it true dat once u av a NAFDAC no....u can open other branches under dat same name...for instance i got attached/franchise to a water factory...and d story about branches came up...for now avnt got d finances to set up a factory!

u can open new sites with d same nafdac no, but nafdac has to inspect d new site, u still has to pay pre inspection fee in fact all process excluding trademark, business registration. u still have to analyse ure water from source and after production if it's approved then ure good to go.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 9:46pm On Jun 30, 2016

nafdac will give u papers detailing all DT is necessary for ur registration. some will tell u it's hard to get nafdac, but the truth is ur are suppose to help the officers to help u ie financially increase the speed of ur registration.
some installers will ask u to buy ozonator, but don't do that unless where necessary. also the'll tell u to buy reverse osmosis machine. see, it cost from 1million and above but is not necessary unless in rare situation where ur water source is contaminated ionically or ur setting up bottled water production line. again they may request u buy two trucks, don't do DT unless u desires to. just buy one diesel truck European not Japanese, u can the add two tricycle pick-ups, cos it will save u upto 60000 per 200kg sold, giving u extra #300000 per tonne. DTS one trade secret and there are many more. to be continued.

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Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 5:38pm On Jun 30, 2016

SIRKAY98:
Thanks .is the ban going to go across all states am in ogun state and have u heard of trade mark? How compulsory is it and nafdac processing will be up to how much i mean its application fees

the ban ban I' m talking about wt aloeman is strictly Lagos state issue but from what I know and from there is solution on ground Ogun state is not involved. as for nafdac application, its #30000 but some of their fees are reviewed periodically, so u could end up paying a little bit more. trademarkis absolutely necessasary I process for people in abuja @ corporate affairs commission area 1. same officer will also ur company registration WC is also necessary as fr Lagos check at plot 7 otunba jobi fele way, behind mko gardens, alausa.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 9:30am On Jun 30, 2016

aloeman15:
thenationonlineng.net/lagos-ban-pet-bottle-sachet/

I'm really surprised that the news didn't seem to get noticed.
So long as this is true, the smart thing is to wait and see.
Even if the ban isn't effected, there'll be the initial gragra by govt agencies looking to make money off the businesses.
Meanwhile, if you guys have an association, better find out what they're doing about this news.

thanks for highlighting this. it's not that the news is not noticed it's just that for us in the business it's no big deal. why!!! cos there are many alternatives. (He said the agency would soon hold a stakeholders’ meeting involving producers of water and pharmaceutical products in order to get them to commence the process of stopping the usage of the soon to be banned materials in the state. .) this has been discussed a lot and manufacturers are ready to introduce biodegradable polymer to replace pet and polyethylene. though it cost a little more but its worth it. so don't be did Courage's or in situ u can wait out this yr and see. once again thanks.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 10:21pm On Jun 29, 2016

@siraky 98 we will get there.
earlier in the thread ur told to aquire 5 room building located in at least 1/2 half a plot of land
tips: before renting the place ur installer has to inspect it to ascertain suitability and if its ur own land then he will give u a building plan and help u in siting ur borehole this should be at least 50 feet from ur septic tank this has to be done before pre inspection by nafdac. ur installer is d one DT will take care of the nafdac stuff, he'll go to nafdac zonal office in ur state and inform them about ur intention. the'll give him papers comprising of requirements and forms and instructions for ur registration. u have to pay a pre inspection fee in a designated bank given to u by nafdac the draft u raise will be returned and the'll issue u receipt. then nafdac will book a date for ur pre inspection. note they can come with their vehicle in d absence of WC u'll provide a vehicle for them. remember a flute player needs to sneeze, so make them comfortable. also ur water will be tested to determine if its good for pure water production. to be continued.

Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 4:59pm On Jun 29, 2016

let's continue. the 1st thing to do is to get an installation expert, care has to be applied here, cos it can make or mar ur chances of success. there are installers who are only interested in how much they can get from u, they'll ask u to install 6 machine where ur suppose to mount 3, they'll finish installation without coaching u on how to successfully run d business. most times u'll end up abandoning the business halfway, cos they left u at sea. infact ur installer contributes to 50% of ur success. don't touch this dial, stay tuned.

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Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 11:59am On Jun 29, 2016

SIRKAY98:
I want to do this business and am half way done. Suddenly i just got discorage and wanted to divert my resources to cyber cafe

Advice me on why i should continue and to even spoil it for me you said lagos state will ban it in 6month

if it were 12 yrs ago I'll advice u to go into cyber cafe but not now that most cyber cafe jobs are done with smart phone and gadgets coupled with d fact that data is now very cheap. pure water is by far d better business

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Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 11:51am On Jun 29, 2016

aloeman15:
I heard on the news that lagos govt plans to ban plastic bottle and sachet water in 6months due to litter and blocked drains.
What info do you have?

that's not possible, u see its like banning Toyota out of all vehicles on the road. the main base component raw material is from eleme petrochemical. a company with heavy interest from government. its like cutting ur nose to spite ur face pure water industries consume 80% of their HD and LD materials and ban rhetorics had been on for the past 15yrs, but d reasons above especially in these cash strapped government, makes it unviable. secondly many pure water leather recycling companies are springing up moreover government can't let go of petrodollar which they are very much addicted to. so I believe things will sort itself out. petrodo

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Business › Re: How To Succed In Pure Water Business by jude79(op): 11:49am On Jun 29, 2016

aloeman15:
I heard on the news that lagos govt plans to ban plastic bottle and sachet water in 6months due to litter and blocked drains.
What info do you have?

that's not possible, u see its like banning Toyota out of all vehicles on the road. the main base component raw material is from eleme petrochemical. acompany with heavy interest from government. its like cutting ur nose to spite ur face pure water industries consume 80% of their HD and LD materials and ban rhetorics had been on for the past 15yrs, but d reasons above especially in these cash strapped government, makes it unviable. secondly many pure water leather recycling companies are springing up moreover government can't let go of petrodollar which they are very much addicted to. so I believe things will sort itself out. petrodo

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