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dolphinheart:
Let's discuss here, no arguments.

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dolphinheart:
As I've explained earlier , the holy spirit is not a person.
1. Anytime any has a vision of heaven ,sometimes they see jesus , sometimes they see an image they term to be jehovah always sitting on a throne , and sometimes they see both of them but they dnt see the holy spirit .

2. Jesus sits on Davids throne, jehovah sits on the heavenly throne, but the holy spirit does not have a throne .

3. When jehovah wants to speak to you , you sometimes see an expression of his presence, or you hear a voice, but he does not enter you . When jesus want to speak to you, you sometimes see an expression of his presence and sometimes you hear his voice , but he does not enter you.
The holy spirit mostimes fills u up , comes upon you to guide you .

4.If the holy spirit can be used for baptism like water, it can be distributed, it can enter and fill up a person , then I dnt think that it is a person.

5. The only begotten son of the almighty has a name,his name was not derived from any analogy but the bible specificaly and directly mentioned what that name is. The almighty himself has a name,his name was not derived from any analogy but the bible specificaly and directly tell us what his name is . Now pls does anyone know the name of the holy spirit, did the bible give holy spirit a name ?. I believe the answer is no cus holy spirit is not a person.

6. Jesus , while on earth, did not perform any powerful work until he was giving the holy spirit . Which he used in performing those powerful works .

7. One last thing to note is that mostimes in the bible , holy spirit is just expressed as "holy spirit" and the word "the" mostimes do not preceed " holy spirit".

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MizJanet:

Are you a newbie ? Your bible call your God the Holyspirit an "It"

" the spirit It.self maketh intercession for us" _ Romans 8:26 !

...ofcos am a newbie.... oldbies cant understand this open mystery ... are they still Christians finding it difficult to understand?... pastors and minister knows this things ...they shuld try and preach more of the personality of the holyspirit

Rajjah:
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yes dear ...who knows if an alien in some other planet is finding u complicated?..because u can do 5 things at thesame time.... #rajafff.... u cant understand only by the spirit.. or do u wnt to experience it?

MizJanet:

Are you a newbie ? Your bible call your God the Holyspirit an "It"

" the spirit It.self maketh intercession for us" _ Romans 8:26 !

...only kjv made a misplacement of words...am very sure they dont really meant it the way u are tlking it.

if not see for urself

:Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
NIV:But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
AMP:But when He, the Spirit of Truth (the Truth-giving Spirit) comes, He will guide you into all the Truth (the whole, full Truth). For He will not speak His own message [on His own authority]; but He will tell whatever He hears [from the Father; He will give the message that has been given to Him], and He will announce and declare to you the things that are to come [that will happen in the future].
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KJV:He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
NIV:He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.
AMP:He will honor and glorify Me, because He will take of (receive, draw upon) what is Mine and will reveal (declare, disclose, transmit) it to you.

thorpido:
I thought you wanted to learn.I didn't know you are one of those clowns.

.....dnt call him a clown. plz. do u think dt fact that u are a believer can make u insult someone else and go away with it?...dnt because u wnt to correct som1 fall in thesame pit.

Angelou:
the holy spirit is god's active force and not god himself and jesus himself is God's creation..... the doctrine of trinity is just a mere fabrication of the roman emperor constantine

..... THE grace of our lord Jesus christ the love of God and the fellowship of the holyspirit.... do u mean that u have been fellowshipping with a force?

CAPTIVATOR:
Thank you ! Descend as a DOVE , WOW! We are still sayin the same thing, Infact Luke 3:22 says 'descends in BODILY FORM, AS A DOVE' ! ... Even an illiterate person readin this knows we are talkin about a Dove's Bodily Appearance , WHY DOES it descend in a Dove Bodily Form AND NEVA as a person ??



Lol .. So ur god is everywhere, in the hole of crab, hole of ants, in the fictional hellfire too e.t.c


moreover, are u sayin holyspirit is God , SHOW me where the bible said " holyspirit is God Almighty" ?
Didnt U Say Its A Person? So who impregnate Mary ?

....Ehya u not a believer... u are one of the islam brothers that takes the bible and read just to argue ...they thought its a novel... brother.. u cannt tlk one out of it by saying sugar is not swit...when he as already tasted of it.

CAPTIVATOR:
RESEARCH more .... The greek word translated 'helper' in John 16:13 carries a masculine gender , thats why its perfectly normal for Jesus to personify the holyspirit with "he" while refferin to "helper" , the holyspirit itself was personified .

Its not uncommon to see such examples of things personified in the scriptures

FOOT speaks ( 1 cor 12: 15)

The EAR talks { 1 cor 12:16}

Trees are said to be rejoicing in psalm 96:11,12

Mountains sing ( Isa 55:12)

Trees Clap Their Hands ( Isa 55:12)

ALL ARE PERSONIFICATION.

BUT if u still insist according to your dogma that the holyspirit is a person, then answer this .

1) why does the holyspirit appear as a dove, and also as tongue BUT NEVER as a person ?


2) since the dogma says holyspirit is a person, and every so - called christian claimed to have it, so how many holyspirits exist since millions of people say that person lives within them ?


3) if the holyspirit is a person , arent u sayin it had sex with MARY ?

....just one thing u are missing... the fact they said he is person doesnt mean they said he his human... Christians are taking him like an ordinary power but his not just power....it means he his living and he speaks ...he also fellowship with us .he can also be grieved..although he is not human but he has humanly kinds of character ...he can be happy or sad.. but he his perfectly holy....dnt insult anyone.. only ask polite questions...for more clarity..




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Rajjah:
3 in 1 God? hmmmmm.m.

.... 5 in 1 you.....
you see , smell,touch ,ear,taste and talk at the same time just to mention but a few..u are even more complicated than the 3 in 1 God u dnt bliv

ademega:
I have seen people that they always hide under the name of holy spirit to do evil.

yes sir... bt i hope u are not using a part to describe a whole.

Angelou:
are you guys trying to say that the holy spirit is equal to god.. SMH even the son can neva be of equal status with "the father"

.......come on.... what makes up an egg?.
shell , white part , york.. which is greater? ....GOD- FATHER ,SON &HOLYSPIRIT. ...The father is God , The son is GOD and the holyspirit is GOD.. just the way we worship the father and the son...we can worship the holyspirit.. the father is not greater than the son,neither is the son than the holyspirit..... the reason why u see Jesus giving honour to the father so much that it seems as if the father is greater its not because of that but it is the mode of their operation. thank you...if u wnt to know more ask polite questions no insults.u

Horus:
Pentecostalists claim that when the Holy Spirit comes to you, you speaking in tongues, or Glossolalia. Glossolalia comes from the Greek word Glossa and it literally means, "tongue." They claim the "lord" is passing a message through them and that one may be blessed with the divine gift of speaking in tongues (languages). Yet, Pentecostalists don't speak in other tongues. Instead, they fall out on the floor and start babbling and muttering, while moaning and talking undecipherable mumbo-jumbo.

chairman what are u saying?

Idrismusty97:
11. Forgetting that It is all in your imagination!

hmmm muslim brother ...if u wnt to know if its in the imagination just try and come closer and see for ur self

no matter how you insult them , gay and lesbianism as come to stay... it has been on for a long period of time and as been passed from generation to generation... JUST THE WAY YOU GUYS HAVE NORMALIZED FORNICATION ....IN THIS MANNER GAY AND LESBIANISM WILL BE NORMALIZED ...SO STOP SHOUTING ON NET.... IF U LIE AND SOMEONE PRACTICES LESBIANISM BOTH ARE THESAME IN THE SIGHT OF GOD....THIS WICKED WORLD. YOU HAVE PRODUCED CONDOMS IN EVERY CORNER TO ENCOURAGE SEX AND NO BODY SAID ANYTHING ...YOU THINK COMING AGAINST GAY CAN SAVE YOU FROM THE COMING WRATH ? IF U LIKE SAY 100YRS IN PRISON ?IT WILL NOT STOP THEM...PRAY FOR GOD TO SAVE YOUR OWN SOUL AND FORGET ABOUT REIGNING INSULTS ON GAYS AND LESBIAN ....I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO DO NOW.

Bolt3:
That's right man, I was just joking.

owk sir

Bolt3:
That's right man, I was just joking.

owk sir

Lamasta:
Thats true even the individual will not be at peace with him/herself cos there is something inputed in him by God that people needs eg Spirit of Visions to see visions and to prophesy to peoples lives.....

yessir

mecuzee:
The Holy Spirit is God's gift to His children. Speaking with tongues is just an initial evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit. Any believer can manifest the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit. The lesser is included in the greater! Just receive Him first and enjoy all the blessings He will manifest in, with and through you. Quit arguing about tongues. Its a beautiful thing to be filled with God, you'll see the world different. Everything and everyone becomes beautiful to you. Then you understand what David meant when he said " the earth is filled with the glory of God" I repeat, the lesser is included in the greater (THE GREATER ONE)

bro bt am nt arguing anytin abt tongues.

Lamasta:
Yes Bro the Heaven I used in the statement is if God decides to choose you whether you are prepared or not cos I`ve seen many young individuals receive the gift of the Holy spirit without even thinking of it.......

...ok its true....although sometimes one can receive the holyspirit without knowing of him. bt the tragedy is wen u just receive of him and dont care to knw him anymore

just4now:
l plead with you in the name of the Lord to jettison your idea it is inspiration from hell. l used to love football until one day the Lord showed me how deep He detests football in the church or church getting involved. In addition He frown at TV stations own by churches from showing it. He said worldly news casting in these stations also infuriate Him. Please always ask Holy Spirit before you introduce anything to the church.

Shalom.

...can i meet u privately?

Bolt3:
This is where our offering is going to

....bro ...u dnt need to care wer ur offering is going to..it simply means u didnt give it toGod with all urheart... idnt care if a pastor uses my offering to hire killers to kill som1 else..why? because i gave it to God not him. let God care about how is offering is been used nt me.

ULSHERLAN:
Atleast better off buying Jets

......dis jet thing any small tin is jet... wat is ur business with dis jet?
People are saying they are poor people around and some one is buying jet.
How many shoes and clothes do u have? why dont u give all remaining one for urself because they are people dt doesnt even have a shoe or cloth... how much did u buy ur handset ? y dont sell it an hlp the poor? ...look at urself first before u start judging a pastor for buying jet.

247notire:
Sir, I'm talking about the big picture, the ultimate goal. So if it can't help me achieve the ultimate goal, why should I bother about it. Thr are a few other things too that are required with my aforementioned, but speaking in tongues ain't one of them.

...the fact that paul said seek greater gift... is not that a gift is greater than the other... but its because tongues only edifies the speaker. but prophesy edifies the church. dt dos not mean we shuld neglect tongues... he knew dt tongues is d first tin dt we encounter with the holyspirit most of the times... so he said instead of just stopping at tongues level lets move unto others so we can not just edify ur self bt edify d whole church

dictbennie:
I have seen great men of God who don't speak but manifest the other gifts....so going by your analogy, what do you have to say about that..

...give names.

sorry but something tells me you are lying... yes/no

Lovine:
What is the sign for the person who is not filled with the Holy Spirit?

. if they are christains? they will continue to do activities in d church without knowing God

Jozzy4:
Dont get emotional , calm down and answer his question . Can you speak in real tongues like the apostles did on pentecost ?

.... sir... u are very funny .. what kind of tongues did they speak?....even at cornelius house...peter said should we stop dis pple frm water baptism seeing dt der receive d holyspirit just as we did

Dottore:
My brother, the more you explain this the more you sound funny. I can't buy some lame excuse why people shouldn't covet the gift of communication in another language to make the spread of the gospel more effective. Thus no need looking for interpreters.
What have u achieved with the unknown tongue that you so much advocate for.
Won't you rather be equipped with:
power: you say things and it happens or pronounce healing upon a sick person.
Knowledge: you perform feats as if though they were your field of expertise.
Prophecy: you have a divine understanding and solution to what seems so mysterious and challenging to others.
Wisdom etc.
I can achieve a lot with these and help others as well.
Also let me ask you, how can you differentiate between real from fake tongues. Pls give examples of people you know that have real and fake tongues

...sir , all ur points are true but u cant really access power and prophesy without tongues......to know the satanic tongues from the angelic tongues is wen u hav discernment of spirits

Lamasta:
You don`t just wake up and start to pray for the gift of speaking in tongues the reason for the gift of the Holy Ghost for the speaking is tongue as Jesus put that ``And Ye shall receive power when the Holy Spirit is come upon You and TAKE NOTE ye shall be my witness in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the rest of the world.....
So if You know you are not ready to work for God don`t bother yourself except heaven choose you......

.....nice write up sir.... but heaven does not choose us....heven is just a place. its not a person.... it ws Jesus dt chose us... and for every believer that as receive him..,he will give the holyspirt to

dictbennie:
Speaking in tongues is the sign of being filled with the holy spirit? What happens to the other gifts of the spirit? Speaking in tongues is just one of the gifts..and the Bible made us understand in (acts14) that though speaking in tongues is good, prophesying is more desirable..I wonder the Bible translation that most of read seriously..

..... u guys shuld nt use abusive words... like ... "translation"... the truth is that most of the times u cant access prophesy and other gifts without ...first accessing tongues... because it is through tongues u get d rest

lomprico:
So d only proof of holy ghost baptism is speaking in tongues?

...no sir... just dt most of the times that is wat we witness first b4 others

247notire:
Only ur good deeds, the love u showed while on earth will save u, fucck speaking in tongues man, it won't help ur heavenly race.

.....Sir thats not what the writer means .... he was just tlking about an aspect of the gift of the holyspirit... he did nt say tongues will make u get to heaven.....they is more to the holyspirit bt d writer just gave the a part of it.