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PUSH1:
Will you b inside your bedroom and see those achievements. No government can achieve any meaningful thing in 2 years

we are still saying the same things. This govt has not achieved anything in two years and the worst part is that there is no sign they will even achieve anything in 4 years. Remember we are in september, they are already in their third year.

Op stop deceiving yourself. Buhari's govt has achieved nothing. How pathetic can you people get for supporting this man blindly?. This your long epistle clearly shows buhari has achieved nothing in two years.

omenka:
Go look for a pool of red mud and wail in there. Stop spitting all over here. I don't give a shiit about your crap kiddo. That victim card doesn't work with me.

If some sort of misfortune befalls me tomorrow, I would take it in my stride and deal with it like a man. I wouldn't crawl around looking for folks to feel sorry for me like some wimpy little girl.

The way you reason sometimes dey weak me. Fulani herdsmen have been killing your people in benue( thats if you are really from there), how have you dealt with that misfortune like a man or you are just taking it in your stride?

Alariwo2:
It will still be igbos.. who else?

They are the only ones crying for secession while others want restructuring.

They are two-faced people, tomorrow they can bow to the caliphate for crumbs. They can't be trusted

which restructuring? The only reason the people that think they own nigeria even thought of restructuring was because of the momentum kanu and ipob were gaining. Now that they have used forced to on kanu and ipob do you think they'll listen to any talk about restructuring. Python dance has killed restructuring. The north wants nigeria to remain as it is.

sureheaven:
He said it all, that's why igbos haven't bn able to produce any president. Instead of them to sit down and strategies and cooperate with other tribe, one sponsored fool by those who lost power in 2015 is adding more to their problem. Agitating for impossibility.

you that have produced president how far with your people? Are you better off than an average igbo person? Our middle class is the highest in nigeria and our poverty rate is the lowest. Keep your presidency. Igbos have done better than all of you without being president.

GrandFinale2017:
ok dummy let's go by Regions..
The North makes up 19 states (middlebelt inclusive).
The South west makes up 6 states.
The South South has 6 states.
While the South East has just 5 landlocked states.
All the states of SE combined with all the states of SS and Ekiti but still couldn't give GEJ a returning seat.
We Igbos don't count in politics, we are only good in commerce and trade. Whenever discussions on politics arises i think we igbos should keep quiet cos we are minorities

dude you reason like a kid. Obasanjo won the presidential election without winning the south west. He won in the north and south east. Buhari needed to win the north and one of south east or south west to win the election. He won in the south west and the north to win the election. Buhari would've still won if he won in the north and south east. Imagine a situation in 2019 where buhari is running against osinbajo. The south west will vote osinbajo and the north will vote buhari but one of them would have to win in the south east to win the presidency. Thing is no one major tribe in nigeria can win an election without help from another major tribe.

fergie001:
Hahaha
Nice job OP,just edit some of your spellings and all that,and I will posit my personal opinion:

Both are Katsina,Fulani Northerners,the approach distinguishes their persons.democratic or undemocratic;crude or refined;rule of law or tyranny;President or Shiekh,Boromir or Sauron.

I have heard people reason that ipobs and ND didn't have same ideology.
Not been a spokesperson of ipob and strongly condemn certain aspects of their agitation and methods(inter Alia,the exuberance and a bit over-the-turf idea,BSS,etc),the ideology is unquestionable.
They threatened to burn the zoo as some has said,insulted the President,had a BSS and BNG,without guns asides their flags...nobody was reported kidnapped or killed as documented.

Rewind,ND Militants
Had so many militant groups all having different heads.
They threatened war,they kidnapped both Nigerians,oil workers and Expatriates,told the FG to leave their lands.
They had heavy cache of arms and ammunition,rocket launchers,HMGs,M2 machine guns,speedboats,etc.
They attacked oil workers,soldiers,pipelines,oil-rigs.
They had several shoot-outs with the army with casualties on both ends.
Notwithstanding,their own was Vice-President.

Now analyse both,one threatening to burn the zoo
And those who are in shootouts with the Nigerian Army.

As a Nation,we forget so quickly.

The main difference/truth OP is that
-There was a leader with better understanding of democratic norms
-The ND militants had a ransom,oil.
This is the mainstay of the economy hence the FG had to react.
Kidnapping oil-workers made most expatriates return to their countries,and it spelt doom.
It affected the money politicians will eat,it affected everything and continued unabated,FG had to reason.

IPOBs and the Igbo-land has no ransom.
No Oil,no mineral-deposit with enough command of foreign-earnings to ransom with.
No trade on tourism,No production Companies,little deposits of oil.
The FG thus,does not care and won't care honestly.

Hence,the S/E Governors if they are honest will begin to ask what happened to the Coal at Nkalagu as well as developing potentials to be able to compete favorably so as to stake a challenge and make our lands more profitable.

It takes nothing away from the fact that UMY was a wise and democratic leader,a master-servant extraordinaire,and listens.

"It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it."
(Aung San Suu Kyi)

From an unbiased Igbo man.

dude you made a lot of sense. Thank you for this post.

konoplyanka:
op I never saw you blame your governors that banned ipob and supported operation Python dance.

are they Yoruba too?

read my first post again you'll see where i wrote that our governors are useless. This thread is not about blame. This thread is about the people saying yorubas stood with the igbos during operation python dance but all i see are yorubas dancing skelewu on igbo matter

After reading through that thread and the points people raised i have decided to really say why igbos feel marginalised or ill treated in nigeria. First and foremost, do you what an average igbo person goes through if he wants to travel from say lagos or abuja or from any other region to the east? Let me use the lagos to onitsha road for example. You drive from lagos through ogun and ondo states freely and with no hassles. It all starts when you approach edo state through to delta states. You meet police check points, army check points, custom check points, sometimes even immigration check points. They all have one mission, frustrate the igbo man until he parts with all the money he has. These people will harrass you, if you complain they assault you. They tell you straight, sort us out or face the consequences. The consequences can mean your death or they can seize your car for days. They surround the south east. If you are coming from the north its the same. They don't do this in the south west or the north.

Secondly, the igbo youths have seen hell in the hands of these men in uniform. I still don't understand why most police heads in the east are not igbos. Most police officers in the east are not igbos. Do you know that you can be picked up by the police or sars in the east around 10pm while walking on the street and be locked up? Then they place about five hundred thousand to 1 million for your release. If no one comes looking for you for about 2 weeks then the SARS will shoot and kill you. Yes it happens in the east. I don't even want to talk about what a trader in onitsha or aba or nnewi spends to receive his container in the east. Do i even have to talk about the school system. These are just a few of my observations. There is a lot of strategic killings of igbo youths in the east by men in uniform that go unpurnished. Lots of intimidation and harassments on the igbos. And who can forget the recent rail project by buhari that has cut off the whole south east? Thing is no matter what, the igbos are survivors.

Michael004:
So what of the two Hausas that you people shouted God forbid for nko?

if buhari is one of the two hausas you are refering to then know that igbos rejected buhari a long time ago because we know him as tribalist and a hater on igbos. Buhari cannot win an election in igbo land even if he contests against a dog. Igbos will vote the dog. When he chose okadigbo an igbo man as running mate, igbos reject them and voted for obj. Even now, if buhari were to contest for reelection with kanu as his running mate, igbos would still not vote for him. Which other hausa man are refering to?

Bubendorff memorial grammar school,
Adazi nnukwu
Anambra state.

Michael004:
Trash, so Jonathan did not win in all Yoruba states in 2011. Your brain dey pain you. Call any Yoruba man or Hausa man that won election into house of assembly in any eastern states.

I did not say that jonathan did not win. I was only replying to what you said about no yoruba person winning an election in the east because of our hate. I told you that obj won hands down in the east during his two presidential elections. Now you are talking about house of assembly. Forgive me for asking, has any yoruba person contested for governorship, house of assembly or chairmanship in the east? You can't win what you didn't contest for. Oh lest i forget, abiola also won in the east during the SDP/NRC presidential election.

julietm123:
Most of them are yoruba muslims.

yes. We got a name for them, The Afonjas.

julietm123:
You are a Catholic indeed. A Catholic who sees nothing wrong with the extra judicial killings of unarmed civilians from a predominantly Christian tribe by a predominantly muslim army is totally sick.
I hope you have seen comments from northerners after Fulani herdsmen attack farmers or there is a reprisal. That's how close religion binds.
You are definitely a muslim.
Even if arewas were the one agitating for a nation,and the national army does what the army did in the east to them, I bet you,you wouldn't even hear such comment you made from a yoruba muslim.

you are right. Moslems see nothing wrong in killing others.

Michael004:
Yoruba man For where, which state, what is his name?

obasanjo. He won in all eastern states and as i recall he lost in south west.

Michael004:
Of you think you can sell a Sandy goods and expect not to collect a stony money, you are joking. You shall reap what you sow.

same goes to you. You can't sow stone and expect to harvest yam

Desyner:
You are either a northerner of you obviously have a serious comprehension problem.

lol me northerner. Odiegwu. You also lack comprehension.

Totti9:
The crisis in aba open my eye the yoruba are everywhere they join northerners to make jest of igbos that are been maltreated by the fulani army

They don't join the hausas. They have the mantel. They are the ones fighting hausa's battles for them online.

Michael004:
Igbos don't hate, the love so much up to the point an Hausa man cannot win election in their land. Oga, go sleep.

but a yoruba man won. You see your life.

Michael004:
So na that potopoto pic dey pain you. You just started. We will post more, hope you know of how to post adeyinka picture. Let continue mr oga. The game is on.

Dude nothing in that picture pains. It might be a game to you but its not a game to me.

fergie001:
Come which school you go?
Because u have sense

God Bless You for this comment.

This is a tribal thread aided by a MOD.
Otherwise focus on realities,there are bad people across all tribes.

OP,take it easy,I have spoken to a lot of my Yoruba friends,who do not like the Igbos for one or two,just like we also do not like dem in 1 or 2 ways,but there is no perfection.
But 1 truth that remains is everyone condemns what went on in Umuahia
I mean,everyone with a conscience.
The people you see support it here are doing so for their daily bread.

So OP,nwanyo biko
Ogologo ndu dakwasiya gi n'isi.

udo di nwanne. Ogologo ndu diri gi.

Michael004:
[s][/s]Victim cry has started as usual. Anyways who cares?

which victim cry? Pretenders.

Kazim88:
Help Ibo man?

And you think Ibo need help.?

Young man Stand for justice, equity, truth and fairness for all... irrespective of tribe.

If Ibo, Fulani or any tribe or FG tries to oppress Nigerians I would stand against them...

Not for or against a tribe because of hate.

Tommoro it could be Someelse

well said.

Viergeachar:
What we did was necessary as the big brothers of the south. We didnt do it to get their appreciation, love or support. We dont need it!
By the way, I heard the few Yorubas living in the South East are treated like kings and queens ...

thats igbos for you. We don't discriminate. If you hussle in igboland come and hussle, no qualms.

BudeYahooCom:
I monitored yoruba-owned TVC which is also sympathetic to TVC and most of the yoruba 'public affairs commentators and journalists' who were muslims DID NOT STAND WITH IGBO. They supported the killings in Biafra. Truth be told.

thats why i opened this thread. They should stop pretending to be against the python dance.

Desyner:
Stop saying Yoruba attacked Igbos first. Some northerners posing as Yorubas and Igbos started it gradually. Some gullible southerners joined in and help take it out of proportion.

yeah right. Some northerners claiming to be yoruba. Then those were some northerners claiming to be igbos.

Viergeachar:
Trash! Life does not begin and end on Nairaland.
And we don't need your appreciation for what we did. And yes we'd gladly do it again and again.
Yorubas are jittery You are a clown!

please spare me your crap. Appreciation for what? What is it that you guys did? Please enlighten me.

Throwback:
Alcatraz and other sons of peace.

You guys have failed to learn the lessons Igbos have been trying to teach you since time immemorial.

An ingrate can never be satisfied, but is ever demanding of unmerited loyalty.

i commended alcatraz for what he did but for every post of his trying to find a middle ground, there are ten posts from his brothers letting him know that they are against that. An ingrate you say, what favour have you done to igbos that is not reciprocated?

Bari22:
I don't know why they hate Yoruba's, they create a problem themselves and then blame Yoruba

we are not blaming yorubas. We are not blaming anybody and igbos don't hate. All we are saying is that you people are two faced. You bash igbos everday online but when we return the favour you call us haters, chest beaters etc.

Ereolamide:
Lessons to Yorubas 101

Never speak, act or think of helping an Ibo man.

exactly what i am saying. Stop pretending to like the igbos or that you truly feel bad about operation python dance. We can all see through your pretence.

emerged01:
The tribal nonsense stops here. You people can go on and go on hating on each other. It can never stop my relationship with other tribes. You don't called Yorubas stupid because you relate with stupid ones here. If you are wise enough you should be able to ignore tribal threads.

you can't ignore tribal threads because those are the only threads in politics section and 95% of those threads are about biafra, kanu, ipob and igbos. Most of these threads are created just to bash igbos.

giftq:
You are one of those people that desire a divided south abi?

i was all for a united south until the yorubas did not do or say anything when the north accused them of trying to use ffk and fayose to destabilise buhari's govt and make osinbajo president. It was then that i realised that yorubas can never go against the north.