Christianity Etc › Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by JustAnotherGuy: 2:06am On May 29, 2023 |
TenQ: 1. Can you show me how to identify male dogs from among female dogs? 2. If your biology is correct with dogs, why should it be wrong with humans? 3. When archaeologists see the skeletons of an adult male, would it be defined male or female by social construct or through biology? 4. Does majority of people on the earth define gender by biology or by social construct? 5. Can I give myself the social construct of a 6 year old white American at the American Embassy even though my parents (biology) are black Nigerians?
If you are TRUTHFUL, answer these 5 questions!
If you ask me, his madness is getting to the level of insanity! Can you show me how to identify male dogs from among female dogs?YES If your biology is correct with dogs, why should it be wrong with humans?IT’s Not. Does majority of people on the earth define gender by biology or by social construct?Faulty appeal to popularity. What the majority of people believe is not necessarily important at all. Can I give myself the social construct of a 6 year old white American at the American Embassy even though my parents (biology) are black Africans?Yes. And they will lock you away for your delusional behavior. Did you not understand my previous post. Perhaps you sould read it again. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by JustAnotherGuy: 10:33pm On May 28, 2023 |
TenQ: If you had just followed the logic rather than repeat a rhetoric:
If you are a 2D observer in a 2D space within the earth, would you be able to prove that 3D objects exist all around you?
I waiting for your answer! Demonstrate the existence of dimensions outside the imaginings of mathematics. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by JustAnotherGuy: 5:31pm On May 28, 2023 |
TenQ, since there is no physical proof for God, we can rule out prayer, miracles, prophecies, personal experience, and other physical manifestations of your so-called God thing. Without physical evidence for your god claim, your god and non-existence are identical. Thank you for playing, do not pass go, and do not collect the prize money. All you have done is support the atheist position,. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by JustAnotherGuy: 5:28pm On May 28, 2023 |
TenQ: Emotional outburst! You called me a Liar because I claim to disagree with some dictionary definition! This is indeed the definition of lies. LOL!
Does EVERYONE agree with the definition of Woman as 'an adult who lives and identifies as a female even though they have been born as a different sex. '
Your claim: (is like) Anyone who doesn't agree with this stupid definition is a Liar! Think please.
Even though I still ANSWERED your Question within the same post, you needed to first argue that I didnt answer you candidly I said: Even though I've answered you several times: the question is silly! It's like asking repeatedly: show me a square circle?
There exist no PHYSICAL test, equipment or Objective test to force the spiritual into the physical. Every evidence of the spiritual is SUBJECTIVE to the individual persons Experience!
Prior to this, I had answered this same question. You said:
My Response:
Of course, to you, I was presenting dishonest straw man, implying that objective evidence exists but that I would not accept it, and without presenting anything.
I said objective evidence is not possible for spiritual things, you state the contrary (in red)
There are two ways to make a proof. The claimant can make a proof The disclaimer can also make his own proof. It is your turn to prove that no spirit dimension or deities exist (please don't forget to recognise that Christians say they are spirits)
In your wisdom, every non objective evidence is a figment of imagination. It just shows how myopic your reasoning is
Looks like you just read a book on Fallacies in Arguments and in every opportunity, whether true or not, you just want to show you've been to the library. Continue! Of course, you didn't create anything: but you didn't realize that i just modified your quote and presented it to you. @underlined, LOL, You have confused the social construct of gender with biology. This would be a different thread though./ No need to reply, just know there is debate on the subject of gender identity. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by JustAnotherGuy: 5:27pm On May 28, 2023 |
TenQ: 1. Being emotional doesn't help you out one bit. I asked you a basic question
What is your response?
2. You said:
It doesn't dawn on you that there are two ways to make a proof.
The claimant can make a proof The disclaimer can also make his own proof.
There is not one single Christian who says that God is a Physical Being and there exist no physical proof of God because He is not subject to the natural/physical laws. Since there exist no physical proof, then the ball is in your hands
I didn't create anything, therefore I ask you for evidence of your claim that NOTHING created everything?
3. Since you aren't willing to process this, let me help you out.
A. We cannot BELIEVE in whatever have a Total KNOWLEDGE of. E.g We know that the addition of TWO Oranges with THREE Oranges will give us a total of FIVE Oranges. Since we know this we can't believe the answer is 5.
B. We cannot DISBELIEVE in whatever have a Total KNOWLEDGE of. E.g We know that the addition of TWO Oranges with THREE Oranges will give us a total of FIVE Oranges. Since we know this we can't disbelieve the answer is 5.
One of the definition by Webster Dictionary of the word Belief is conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence //belief in the validity of scientific statements
We Choose/Take/Hold a position of BELIEF when whenever have a REASONABLE but INCOMPLETE knowledge of a position or thing to hold a position of HIGH or LOW Probability
E.g. I do believe it will rain heavily tonight! Is a statement I made because I looked at the sky, saw the thick cloud during the rainy season and thought that it is reasonable based on available evidence that rain should fall. That is HIGH probability of it Raining OR E.g. I do NOT believe it will rain heavily tonight! Is a statement I made because I looked at the sky, saw the no cloud during the dry season and thought that it is reasonable based on available evidence that rain shouldn't fall. That is LOW probability of it Raining
Except you want to say that Belief and Disbelief are NOT opposite in meaning.
By the definition of Belief: It takes a total lack of opinion, knowledge and comprehension of a fact, idea or issue for a person to successfully lack a belief in anything.
What you have as Atheist is NOT a lack of Belief, but a personal choice based on reason to REJECT a proposed thing, fact, idea or issue in relation to deities.
Even Animals can form a Belief! @underlined, So, let me see if I understand you correctly….no Xtians would say their god IS a physical being, but it WAS a physical being in the past, correct? If the latter is the case, was that god still not subject to natural/physical laws? All of them? Just some of them? None of them? Only occasionally? If their god did indeed exist in the physical world, can you provide proof for that? Don’t Xtians also think their god currently manipulates the physical world? How is that possible if their god exists outside of it? If their god does manipulate the physical world, shouldn’t there be some way to prove that? It’s just so confusing! I hope you can help with these questions. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by JustAnotherGuy: 4:53pm On May 28, 2023 |
TenQ: Let's put your definition to test: Animals lack or have absence of belief in ANY Deity! Does this make animas Atheists?
My claim: It takes cognitive abilities required for abstract thinking for one to have a belief system such as atheism or theism.
There is no objective evidence that will satisfy you for Christians never defined their God as physical but a spirit. For your Comprehension perhaps you should answer the question below You are a 2D observer in your 2D space, what evidence do you think your senses can objectively fathom 3D objects in their 3D space?
Your question has been answered.
If as a 2D observer in your 2D space which is inside a 3D space you cannot objectively fathom things in 3D space, would that be a conclusive proof that both 3D objects and 3D space do not exist? The bolded is 100% incorrect and spoken exactly as a Christian who has not read his own bible. Jesus was completely human and completely god. If not, there is no Christianity. God himself manifests multiple times in physical form in your own religious text. (Independent of his manifestation as Jesus.) All you have shown is that you are an ignorant representation of the faith you profess to believe in. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by JustAnotherGuy: 4:46pm On May 28, 2023 |
TenQ: Keep your words direct to the point! When a dictionary defines a word in deliberate error to please a group such as the LGBTQ and Atheists, I refuse to follow such unless it agrees with common sense. Well, a dictionary doesn’t do that. It Cannot deliberately take any action to please anyone. It’s an inanimate object. Dictionary compilers however, collect words and write definitions of them according to common usages. As societies ineluctably drift and shift, the way words are used does as well. You refuse to follow the drift and shift of the society in which you live? I doubt that. I suspect you only dig your heals in about that which you find demonstrates inclusiveness of folks you find objectionable. Unless…”it agrees with common sense.” Whose sense is that? Just yours? How do you determine that your notion is common? How do you determine that your ideas are sensible? How many people does it take to be common? And just what’s wrong with “pleasing” folks who are identified as lgbtq+ or atheist? The example you site is really about inclusion. Do you find inclusion of such folks somehow distasteful? Why must someone who considers their gender to be different than their birth sex be prevented from identifying as any gender they want? To please you? Hmmmm…… |
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