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Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 12:05pm On Mar 14, 2017
fratermathy:


Well. You have a good response now.

However, I am not here to comment on whether or not the man is guilty or innocent. He alone, together with the accusers, can prove that.

My point is that he owns that plate number and it was magically taken down from the site. That is suspicious and it is for good reason. Add that to the controversies and we have a case that attracts attention.


Let him come and disprove the allegations just as it behoves the allegators to bring more proof (which I anticipate).



However, let us all be careful when defending these "men of God". Some of them do things that would make even the devil scream "blood of Jesus!". Statistically speaking, most accusations against pastors such as these turn out to have elements of truths in them.

Actually it's not as suspicious as it is portrayed. If i were a popular man and had my vehicle Number and spec publicly accessible that could become a huge security issue. My car could be targeted by anyone Armed robbers and the likes. I would say this particular incident is one of those where a government would not want any liability neither will The Preacher himself.
I actually commend the govt for responding quickly, i hope the same efficiency is applied to other issues involving less popular citizens.

Now as to him disproving the allegations, well now, different people handle situations differently. Sometimes it is better to be silent and just let people get tired of the topic and move on, speaking just fuels the flame. So i believe its a decent strategy. Like i said, everything is still circumstantial i'm sure if undisputed and irrefutable evidence is presented, response or not, the reality of the situation will be clear.
Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 2:52am On Mar 14, 2017
fratermathy:


Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source.

The name was removed as damage control but it is still very much accessible on Internet Archive here: view-source:http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej

@ fratermathy Now this is concrete, i just read the comments this morning, with people saying i'm in cohorts with the site or the Apostle.
Well that's absolute baloney. Now i said if i saw something concrete i will give proper credence to the bug theory, anyone who was following my comments saw that. Now this proves that the Apostle does own A Mercedes-Benz GL 450 that is black. Now what it doesn't prove is that, The vehicle in the picture is owned by the Apostle. Now if we are to make this whole i would need a clear picture of the plate number of that vehicle in the parking lot. So far all i have seen are the assumed comments, or the picture provided by SH or people saying it exists. If you can provide a photo with that part zoomed and visible to show MUS123EJ i will grant the notion that the car in that garage was as written, the apostles. However if you cant then i would have to say its all speculation and definitely doesn't warrant anyone to speak with uttermost certainty that the vehicle in that parking lot was infact the Apostles.

Now if you read my post carefully, I took offence at the Certainty of Sahara reporters that the apostle was indeed having an affair with Daniella okeke based on circumstantial evidence alone. They didn't say allegedly they spoke with surety. Now when surety is used in journalism there is unquestionable evidence.

Ask yourself really what about this evidence cannot be questioned. Yes i grant the link does show the car belonged the Man of God.
That alone will not prove if the vehicle in that car lot was the same car searched.
Now even if somehow we could prove it was, It doesn't prove who drove it there? or are we saying his drivers cant use the vehicle?

Now this is all circumstantial evidence at best and the only reason a somewhat reputable news agency will make an accusation like this is
to attract readers in the Suleman Boom. The media is exploiting the situation for their personal interests and if you don't see it my friend..................

Now like i said i'm not here to exonerate the man from his issues with Ms otobo, i said that before and i repeat it now. however i am going to question the evidence provided He is not guilty until proven innocent no, He is innocent until proven guilty. Therefore until we move past accusation and circumstantial evidence. No media agency should make a sentence without adding the word allegedly and no one should say without a doubt that the man has done anything wrong yet.
Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 10:46am On Mar 13, 2017
aloyt:
You all should not be fooled....let the owners of the website come and defend an editing that was done on the website at 02:15 today 13/03/2017. The internet will always be there for information.

Sorry, but this proves nothing so a snapshot was taken this is not evidence of editing.
Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 10:41am On Mar 13, 2017
WEB EVIDENCE IS EASILY FALSIFIED.

Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 10:32am On Mar 13, 2017
I attached this image with my entire screen to show you the time stamp. I just did this now i live in Malaysia hence my time. However the point is to show you that anything can be edited on a live site at least to a certain degree. I inspected the element which allowed me to alter the code just enough to get anyone to believe it was a live shot.

there has been no graphical editing. However i still edited the site to say the owner was Sahara reporters. Now im still looking for irrefutable evidence to back the bug theory besides " i tried it myself" or "It was there yesterday"

Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 10:03am On Mar 13, 2017
duni04:
Useless thread probably started by Suleiman's followers. Sahara reporters has reported that the name was just removed this morning or so.
I tried it yesterday and it clearly worked well. Suleiman has probably gone to complain to somebody about the backdoor feature on that site that allowed people see his name.

There is no backdoor feature. searching the source code is something anyone with little understanding about web browsers can do.

Now with the evidence provided here, If i was an editor for Sahara reporters i will quickly spin the story to this "The Lagos State Govt is in a Conspiracy with Apostle Suleman."

Now if this was a bug in the code as someone earlier commented, a bug that revealed private information and was corrected yesterday Sunday 12 2017.
Normally that will make sense.
However lets get this whole issue in proper context. This would mean the state government reacted in record time, fixing the site bugs within 5 hours of the article been released.even in cases involving the Nigerian government itself the reaction time is always very slow. However is this possible? absolutely yes..
is it Probable Though? now that's the question we all need to answer personally.

Anyone with irrefutable evidence of the "bug" affecting them personally besides the faulty screenshots provided by SH would be compelling enough for us to investigate the bug Theory further.

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Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 9:11am On Mar 13, 2017
WeNoGoDie:


You have a point but I'm equally sure Sahara reporters will not publish such news if they didn't first search to confirm a name was actually there.

As a matter of fact there were even screenshots to prove it when the news hit nairaland.
You'd be surprised at how gullible some people think Nigerians really are.

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Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 8:59am On Mar 13, 2017
WeNoGoDie:


Did you not equally see a thread or two opened on nairaland by yesterday clearly stating the name has been erased?

I'm not standing on anybodies side but I'm telling you what I saw. Search Nairaland and you should see the thread.

Yes i did, Now that would mean they have deleted everyone's details from the site. You see if you know anyone with a car registered in Lagos. take the number and search you will not see a name. This is because private information like names will not be revealed to the public. This will be a privacy issue for the government if anyone who had your car number could search and know your name. Search any car registered in lagos.

Html Codes are written and can be edited. but the proof is in the pudding.
Which is more likely?
lagos state govt clears its entire site of all names to protect one pastor or Someone edited the code to sell papers and get more page views.

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Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 8:28am On Mar 13, 2017
remedick:
kenney222, PLEASE, the nairaland image code does not work if not hosted on a wordpress blog. So IMPLORE you to attached the images here so that everybody can see things for themselves and I will agitate for it to be pushed to the front page. Thank you.

I was only allowed to attach 4 images which i have done. The rest can be seen through the links provided

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Religion / Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 8:25am On Mar 13, 2017
subtlemee:
I'm sure Sahara reporters do know the full implications of defamation and knowing Nigerians if it was a farce the best lawyers will by now be suing them for libel so why is the Daniella quiet?

Op doing this won't refit your distraught and I pray more evidences won't pop up and make you want to delete this thread,i was equally disappointed but I've moved on knowing the apostle is human and not a god

I understand you quite perfectly, However false evidence is false evidence, Lagos state Mvaa Websiste does not reveal private information about car owners, it never has. Saying otherwise to sell a story is libel and a suit may be in play. like is said i'm not going to defend previous accusation only highlight the falsified evidence behind this one

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Religion / False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by kenney222: 8:06am On Mar 13, 2017
Today I was scrolling through my facebook page and I came across another news report regarding the Apostle Suleman and Ms Otobo Scandal.
While reading it I noticed another lady was mentioned, her name was Daniella Okeke.
I was not aware at the time that another lady was implicated as an alleged lover of the Preacher and so I quickly searched the lady on google to get more information about her involvement in the case.

It was at this moment I stumbled on the report by ” Sahara reporters “ saying unequivocally that The preacher apostle Suleman
bought a “Mercedes-Benz 450 GL For Nollywood Actress Daniella Okeke”.
I was curious and I read on to see the proof that supported the confident claim. It was at this moment I saw the vehicle allegedly
bought by the Preacher Suleman, with proof from the lagos state MVAA website stating the vehicle was registered to The Preacher “Apostle Johnson Suleman”
With this irrefutable evidence I was distraught, I only Saw the preacher once, about a month ago when he visited Malaysia for a program,
it was a 2 day program. I did not attend the first day, on that day however he mentioned my name and prophesied about a business
plan I hadn’t told anyone about yet.

When I heard about this later that night, I was amazed and I went for the program the following day and had a good time there.
My personal impression of him was very positive.
So to see evidence that the lady Daniella okeke whom I must admit is very easy on the eyes was driving around in a car owned by
the Apostle, well that I could not ignore as just a rumour.

Honestly I was distraught, the feeling that there was some hypocrisy in his teachings about marriage and family did not sit well with me.
However I decided to confirm this evidence for myself, I wanted to come to terms with the truth that he actually is guilty of having some sort
of relationship with the lady Daniella Okeke.

So I proceeded to visit the Lagos state MVAA website http://www.lsmvaapvs.org to search the details of the vehicle and confirm it was
owned by the preacher, using the number provided by Sahara Reporters and republished by so many other news agencies and blogs “ MUS123EJ”.
It was at this moment I discovered the deception.

When I searched the website with the plate number provided, I noticed no name was given. However Sahara reporters gave the name
within the source Code of the web page. So I proceeded to open the source code of the webpage and I realized that the name “Apostle Johnson Suleman”
been the owner of the vehicle was entirely a farce.

The preacher’s name is not mentioned as the owner of the vehicle like the Organization Sahara Reporter would lead you to believe.
In fact the website does not provide an owner for this vehicle.

The Image Below is the Post from Sahara Reporters.

[img]https://image.ibb.co/ff34Aa/apo3.jpg[/img]

The Proof From Sahara Reporters Below:

[img]https://image.ibb.co/cGXxVa/vllkyt4gneer1i56k_d187c779.jpg[/img]

[img]https://image.ibb.co/eTYFGF/vllkyt4ni91fokojt_cf36a0f3.jpg[/img]

https://image.ibb.co/kXzpbF/vllkyt61bdj4c428e_90fecffc.jpg

[img]https://image.ibb.co/e35UbF/REGISTRATION_DANIELLA_CAR.jpg[/img]

Now with the evidence provided above, it is understandable to come to the conclusion that this story is true.
Also the reputation of Sahara reporters adds another level of credibility to the story.
However as you will see below and probable research on your own you will come to the same conclusion as i did.
Its a lie, a big lie.

This is the Source Code from the site after searching with the Plate number given by Sahara Reporters

[img]https://image.ibb.co/gWUEbF/apo6.jpg[/img]

[img]https://image.ibb.co/kaZY3v/obi1.jpg[/img]

Apostle Suleman is not mentioned as the owner of this vehicle anywhere. Now readers i am not asking you to just take my word on this.
I want you to look at the evidence i have presented and go to the website " http://www.lsmvaapvs.org " and run a search with the car number
" MUS123EJ " or take this direct link " http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=Mus123ej " . To my html proficient readers you will notice the code provided by Sahara Reporters was edited, And even if you know nothing about Website Coding just search the Vehicle and Right click on the webpage on your browser and select "View Page Source" now do a manual search of the source for the Name Suleman or Johnson or Apostle.

Now this post is not meant to absolve the preacher of any wrong doing from his previous accusations. However, let us take into account that
a very "supposedly" trusted and reputable media agency like Sahara Reporters provided this false information in order to mislead the readers.

What else in this scandal is FALSE?

How can we in all honesty take further news publications on this issue from sahara reporters or other news agencies that republished this article as the truth?

Regardless of race, gender, religion or denomination. We as a people need to ask ourselves questions and come up with conclusions based on our research with the evidences provided.
The media is not incorruptible.

I have attached a few images but use the links to paint a clearer picture of the deception.

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