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GoodFaith:
"I believe in the word of Jesus/God above all others" --Do u act accord to the word ?
Not just saying it

Don't concern yourself with what I do just make sure your heart is right with God.

Ngozi123:
I'm sorry that you feel this way but don't you think that you could spend your time better by trying to improve the lives of black Americans, like yourself, rather than concerning yourself about the perceptions of people who don't even know you.

The lives of black Americans like myself are blessed, don't you think your time can be more useful helping the deprived like yourself rather than wasting it giving advice on how I spend my time, and I don't even know you?

BreezyRita:
And which one doesn't love you? Dem carry banner?
Cos last I checked, whether its just to bleep or for keeps, they love you.

Lmao....

Exjoker:
Interesting... So, how long will it take you to study him? - Probably up to 3 weeks or more?

Study him before what?

fr3do:
I didnt blame anybody for the starving children in Africa, I only expressed disgust in the way americans (black, white...) pay attention to only the starvation and negativities. I dont know, maybe it makes you people feel better.

Why would anyone feel good about seeing starving babies?
To be honest with you it is depressing, I can't watch them.
If I paid attention to negative images of Africa, I wouldn't be on this web-site now would I?

Exjoker:
Okay, let hear why women play hard to get from you...

I can only speak for myself.
As a woman my interaction with a man is not into playing games (such a waste of time) but getting to know him. If I like a man and he likes me we will go out (to the movies, dinner, comedy club) those are some of the things that I like to do, so that we can get to know each other by spending time together. Being mean, avoiding him, and giving him a nasty attitude should be a turn off to any man especially if the girl really likes him. That should send him running to the next girl, no one wants to waste their time on someone with such a terrible personality.

fr3do:
Obsession kwa?
It seems you mistake me for someone else, how are whites precious to me?

That post was meant for you. You were the one complaining about starving Africans on tv as if black Americans are responsible for it. Alot of people on this site has an obsession with TRYING to tear black Americans down.

otokx:
Some people can lie; there is God o.

Who lied?

We really derailed this thread with this Nation Of Islam conversation, sorry op.

gatiano:
Muslims have always believed in the teachings and lessons of Jesus christ.

As the messiah?

gatiano:
believing Jesus has the son of GOD biologically is accusing GOD of rape, accusing Mary of prostitution and accusing Joseph of stupidity. For GOD to be the biological father of Jesus, there must be fluid introduced into Mary to fertilize her, and if it were so, then spirit is incapable of doing so. if Jesus is the son of GOD, on that same level too, i'm the son of GOD. so i won't worship a person that also worships GOD, i'm free to

do that directly, ask and communicate with GOD directly. He is all ears.
being a christian too is also good so long as one is crytallized into the oneness of Jesus christ and not worshipping him. And who GOD has blessed or provided for, what other sponsor does that person needs? However that help, or blessings must come through a person and most importantly through the wisdom and knowledge GOD provides. Nobody needs to care for farrakhan, GOD/ALLAH cares for him. stay righteous sister and GOD'S Blessings. hope to share views again.

Rape, what are you talking about? Nothing is too great for God, or do you not believe in the power of God?

Exjoker:
I thought it was said among girls that "all men are the same", so as a guy, i'm talking to you from an experience. I have got this friend that want to date any pretty girl that comes his way. Normally he will approach her on two occasions and if he fail to woo her on this occasions he will then withdraw from it. He had nothing to loss after all and he hardly stay long in a relationship.

Only girls say all men are the same, women know better.
You are saying about your friend the same behavior I was saying about some men.
Hit it and quit it, makes no differnce how long the girl plays her games.

gatiano:
it doesn't mean down with Jesus, anybody that had told you so only wanted you not to know the truth of yourself and your capabilities. with the teaching of farrakhan, you do not need anybody to sponsor your anything, you would eventually sponsor yourself and family and you wouldn't be oweing nobody. you would pay your own rent by yourself. that is when you will know that truely, GOD is living and very sufficient. do not take what anybody says, even me. try go listen to NOI on the net you are in the states where net is fully available and cost not too much.

The churches don't just pay the members rents, they take care of their own families but there comes a time in everyones life when they will need a helping hand and I know for a fact that the NOI does the same for it's members.

If I wanted to listen to the NOI, I would walk two blocks over from my house, been there done that and they are not for me. I have nothing against them I just don't care for Farakahn.
Are you telling me you have never joined or met the NOI and you are going by what you see on the net? Now I get it, and for your information the NOI sponsors it's members only. They are kind of selfish. They DO NOT believe in Jesus as the son of God.

gatiano:
what? what upside down? anyway, why should i love such a thing on which Jesus suffered on? where he was nailed on, bleed and died, was it only Jesus that died on the cross (if that were true in the first place), there were a lot of people that were killed on the cross during the roman reign. wasn't the return of Jesus is breaking the cross? why then should i worship that which is made by the hands of the devils, the killers of Jesus? why would i worship that which where Jesus was murdered almost unclad?
down the bringing down of the horizontal down to the floor that it seem as if it is upside down means the putting away our horizontal self/personalities. when a new baby is born, he/she is on horizontal level, so is when a person is dead, the dead is laid horizontally, that horizontal level is what we call a crooked way (snake) or reptile (you should study the behaviour of the repitile, they are disgusting). The words of Jesus was to raise a person on the vertical (uprightness).
And Jesus was just too smart to have allowed himself to be humiliated as such. He died for our ressurection, true but not on the cross.

Abraham taught us not to be polytheist.
Moses brought the law given by GOD
David revealled the psalms of praise from GOD
Jesus revealled the gospel of love from GOD
Muhammad revealled the book of duty from GOD
Elijah Muhammad taught us the meaning of all the books (we are the smartest people on earth)
yes you would ask, what then have you created/made? everything!

I am 100% with you on the issue of the cross, I do not believe in it either.
It would be the samething as worshipping, praising, loving or (whatever people feel about it) the electric chair that people were/are executed in today.
Imagine wearing an electric chair around your neck a thing of suffering and death.



I still would like to know, when did muslims start believing in the christ?

onoja12:
that meant simply that once blacks in america get to any office they begin to see themselves as white rather than human been,i thank God that even Obama has realized and that is why he has began to rush everything he should have done in the first place

Oh, my bad, you are talking about Africans.

onoja12:
that question should be for people like you

In America Africans are the ones who wants to assimilate with whites, they prefer whites to anyone.

They love them some white folks, being around white folks makes them happy and content.
When they are around white folks all is right with the world, they feel safe.

onoja12:
oh so you know how the stupid black in america think.good to know

You already know and black Americans knows that America is a racist country that favors whites, but it was/is a shock for me to come on this web-site and discover so many white worshippers here, hence Africa's policy on whites = Whites are Right.

onoja12:
that question should be for people like you

You don't know me at all and I know you couldn't have read any of my posts and then make this stu.pid statement.

onoja12:
my friend,one simple question,have you ever heard about African policy on white?but i guess you have heard about all the western countries everyday setting a new policy on Africa,so you should ask yourself why?

Africa's policy on whites?
Lmao
Yes I have........WHITE IS RIGHT

onoja12:
that meant simply that once blacks in america get to any office they begin to see themselves as white rather than human been,i thank God that even Obama has realized and that is why he has began to rush everything he should have done in the first place

What does that mean, seeing oneself as white, is white on a higher ground or something?

gatiano:
xaxaxaxa, you can be so wrong my dearest sister (i hope the grammer is right for my intentions). You for over 25 years, there is no sermon or church that i have ever been that i didn't sleep through. i am always very sad when Farrakhan or any NOI minister, especially Ava and Tunetta including Jubril and few others, when their teachings are coming to the end, i feel kind of sad but gracious at the same time. They are not the same as any church, NONE! You mean those money sapping and person's life work drengers (churches of today)? they are not the same. however if you call me brainwashed by the NOI Elijah Muhammad follower, i stand guilty and i'm proud and pleased with it. and the NOI believe in Jesus than any of the churches will ever be. what will then happen to Abraham and Moses and David if they did not give their life to their grandson (Jesus)? are they in hell? come on sister, you are smarter than most.

You were going to the wrong churches, my church in Calif. is very enlightening and interesting and is not boring at all, I promise you will not fall asleep.
As far as the money you were talking about, our church only have one offering, thats it, the basket is passed around and it is up to you if you want to give or not.
The offerings that are given feeds and clothes the needy, it also helps members in need, for example if a member needs money for rent, food or utilities it's there to help them.
My church also provides scholarships to college/university
for it's members. You said That the NOI believes in Jesus since when? Explain to me what is the meaning of Jesus hanging upside down on the cross that the NOI like to advertise.

I was told it means down with Jesus.

gatiano:
You are black, you do not need to be bornagain, however it is good that you are but not enough, you need to be upright like Abraham and get in oneness with him, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad and be righteous uprightly and submit all to GOD. if you think that the old kkk are not the new police department and justice department, park your load to lagos, the mosquitoes in lagos are far better than not knowing who is strategising massively and killing the black people on a regular basis not just through shooting little boys playing with toy plastic guns, but also the contaminated foods and water. Farrakhan as done so much for those that understand what upliftment means. kkk is not of old, they just switched positions.
what kind of help do you want from farrakhan when he teaches people to be mindful and teaches them their real history. drugs addicts, prostitutes, drug peddlers, pimps gets/enters the NOI, before long they are refined into a new being of respectable character, tkaing care of themselves, family and their surrounding alike, respecting the women that are used to being called ho es and bia tches everyday since they've been born etc. what else do you want?

Everyone knows that the kkk still exist and the police department are racist, but they don't have the power that they use to have.

Oh please, the NOI isn't teaching anything different than black churches/black organizations teach.
God/Jesus is the only one I need to be one with, because only he can save me.
When did the NOI start believing in Jesus?

Duru1:
I guess your ignorance of the facts is not limited to the riot in Ferguson, Mo but Nigeria too. There is corruption everywhere in the world. In Nigeria though if you are caught steeling "pure water", you shall be publicly lynched. Petty crime is a curse.

So being barbaric is ok with you.
With the statement you made, don't you ever call anyone ignorant without looking in the mirror first.

Duru1:
Officer Wilson did not go about shooting African-American as your silly self would want us to believe. The descriptions of Michael Brown and his companion during the robbery at the stop were relayed to officer Wilson by a police dispatcher.

After the murder took place.

gatiano:
in other words, kkk would have loved farrakhan if he was instrumental in the death of malcome x, right only for farrakhan to be more vocal in pointing the devils out. i do not need farrakhan to come put food in my mouth, even not has an american, he has done more than feeding my generations to come food,shelter and wealth by just pointing out that devil. if that is not enough, then there is nothing even GOD can do to help a people. Elijah Muhammad biological son tried to turn the teachings around, Malcome x too, clarence x too, Muhammad ali too. what was all their end? Ali didn't as much. but one thing i do know and have come to findout is "it is better for one to stay away from GOD'S favour and protection and guidance than to come for GOD'S favour, protection and guidance, then decide you want to become self guided" well GOD won't kill you, he would just let you be and see if infact you know all.

today i'm proud of who i am and sure about it, i was before too but with some level of doubt, this alone set my life straight just within 6 month. i would have died, of gastrointestinal problems, i could only Thank GOD for farrakhan that kept on the teachings of Elijah Muhammad. Just one meal a day saved my life without spend a dime and saving more ever since. no more pork. stupid fellow like me just because of gluttony had two wafers that is about to cause me headache. what more can i say? i know myself, i know GOD, i know the devil. i don't hate white people for some of them are good and i am friends with a few. if is that not help enough, then what your help means is feeding food directly to a grown man's mouth and that is actually murder.

in one of the prayers given by Elijah Muhammad, it states "O ALLAH/GOD, suffice thou me with what is lawful to keep me away from what is prohibited, and in THY GRACE, make me free from wants of what is besides THEE. with such a prayer said seven times a day, how can a police shoot me or any NOI members.?

what is happening now has been going on in the past as you stated, true. what will happen is what none have experienced before until the black people accept devils for who they are. if you are in the midst of them and you are black or brown be careful, vigilant and be conservative (i don't know the right word, be diligent), and if you are white.be bornagain, simply be good!

Why would the KKK love Farakahn for his participation in the murder of Malcolm when they want him 6 feet under aswell.
Stop bringing up the KKK as if they have power in America like the days of old they are nothing.
Who said anything about Farakahn feeding anyone, I am talking about, what has he done for the progression of black America?
I am not white I am black American and yes I am born again.
There is one piece of advice I would like to leave you with.

Put your all into the almighty God, all praises goes to him, every blessing you received was through him and stop praising/worshipping Farakahn, he is only a man.

Duru1:
Which sheriff's video? Please read the grand jury report and the testimony of Officer Wilson as well as police dispatcher.

At the time of the incident at the store was dispatched, Michael had already been murdered.
So Wilson did not get any information, or discription on Michael prior to murdering him.

Are you that silly to even think Wilson testimony was the complete truth. Seriously?

Duru1:
Real African does not protest the death of a petty criminal such as Michael Brown.

Real Africans need to get off their lazy butts and protest the corruption that is going on in Nigeria and stop sitting by and excepting what your crooked government is doing to it's people. Get up off your butts and fight for your rights, no one can do it for you.
Since when did the punishment for petty crime (stealing cigars) become death. Is that how they handle petty criminals in your country?

gatiano:
I can evidently see the touch of GOD in the lives of the members and not just members of the noi. it is evident. well most people are lazy. NOI is not for lazy people or dumb, blind and deaf kind of personality. He calls the devil out for who he really is. can you look the devil in the face and say i know you, you are the devil, in the midst of the devils? only Jesus did that.

You can't be serious, so you really think Farakahn is the only one who speaks out against evil and injustice to the oppressors, you are definitely BRAINWASHED.

Once again I ask you what has he done besides making speaches? Do you see the touch of God in Farakahn?

gatiano:
have you ever listened to farrakhan? he not only care about black americans, he cares about all blacks on the planet. now he won't allow any person to just mix with the muslims, not even the arabs. look at the shootings going on now, farrakhan had already said it would happen as far back as 2013, and this is just a tip of the iceberg. also to all other black people of the earth. boko haram is now a means to an end for the europeans to enter nigeria. and several other places. i know you didn't say he pulled the trigger. if he had any part in it and with the ways and the audacity with which he speaks against injustice, don't you think this american justice department filled with ku klux kan members would have fish something out if he had anything to do with it? if they couldn't, then we may as well say he is instrumental in the death of tupac shakur too. The world are on set when farrakhan speaks (people that know of him).

Oviously you don't know him. I can't believe that stupid remark you just made, why on earth would the ku klux klan or any whites at that time in America care about WHO KILLED MALCOM X? To them the killers were heroes. Farakahn didn't predict anything, he only stated what has been going on for centuries in America.
Again what has he done for black non-muslims Americans.
The million man march is all that he could come up with, but what has he done lately?
I repeat he is not my leader and neither is Al Sharpton.

Duru1:
You need to read more about the case than you have done already.

You need to read and look at the video of the sheriff admitting that Wilson didn't know of the prior incident.

gatiano:
have you seen any bold leader as louis farrakhan? show me except for malcome x and elijah muhammad. show me one and still standing.

The hell with being bold, anyone can run his mouth, what has he done?

gatiano:
They all care about him, including the whites, i did not say they all love him. Spiritual father. and he does not have any hand in the killing of malcome x death, neither was any from the noi. the fbi murdered malcome.

We all do not care about him especially the whites.
Farakahn dosen't care about black Americans unless they are Muslims.
Like I said, he was instrumental in killing Malcom, I didn't say he pulled the trigger.
The FBI my foot.
Do you know at the time of Malcom's death he had made a pilgrimage to Mecca and had started seeing that white men can be his brothers, he started to change his views and the Nation of Islam couldn't have that.
Malcom became bigger than the NOI and they hated him for it.