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liveLongNprospa:
Oppressed? 2nd class citizen?
Lets get into this.
As a man, why do you think I would feel oppressed or a 2nd class citizen because women are getting rescued first?
Have you lived as a man?
Do you think for all men?

I don't need to be dead before I know a dead person. Treated as inferior to your fellow gender in this particular situation says it all. What about men that wants to leave Sudan immediately with the women or even before the women but due to Gender stereotypes and fear of being perceived as a "weak men" just shuts up and goes along with it? Patriarchy affects everybody but men are too scared to admit it.

GrammarNazi1:
After the weak/unwell have been evacuated, what's the next set of people to be evacuated if people must be evacuated by sets? The men or the women?

Why does it have to be or and not both?

liveLongNprospa:
Hmmm so the days my wife also holds door for me to pass, it means she's calling me weak ba?

Benevolent sexism is self explanatory.

liveLongNprospa:
Leave what Chimamanda wrote. We know where she stands.
Let me tell you how unrealistic you sound.
In a war situation like that, people go into survival mode and that means the people with peak physical condition have the best chance of survival.

Pick 30 random men and women with 15 representing each gender, you'd have alot more men stronger physically, who can run faster, jump faster, probably fight better.
You'll most likely be much of a liability in that situation which in turn will be a drawback to the entire group.

It is not a nice situation, it is reality.
So again while in most cases we all support the call for equality, in cases like war situations we will have women and children getting preferential treatment.


And it is always funny when that happens and you barely get news of women standing up in that situation to say "no I'm a human being like you.. Let only the kids and injured be rescued first"

Again.. Reality isn't nice sometimes

Equality in comfortable situations is easy to propagate. When shit hits the fan that's when you know the real you👍

Its an evacuation. There's no need for gender to come into play. Like Adiche said "Protect those that need protection, irrespective of their gender.". Even when your Gender gets oppressed and treated like 2nd class citizen you will still defend the patriarchy.

liveLongNprospa:
So if I hold a door for you, am I calling you weak?
If when we get married and I carry you into the bedroom, am I calling you weak?

lmao.


Benevolent sexism refers to attitudes about women that seem positive in tone (eg, women should be cherished) but nonetheless connote inferiority to men based on fragility, lack of competence, or need of help and protection.

liveLongNprospa:
You have still not answered my second question.
In this situation in Sudan, would you refuse the preferential treatment given to you as a woman..
Yes or no

I answered you perfectly with this speech from Adiche.

Kholiwe:
This reminds me of what Chimamnda Adiche said. "" She said holding doors shouldn't be a gender thing. We should hold doors for each other, or anyone that needs such help...not just because she is a woman!
She went on to add that, in the event of danger---the first set of people to be evacuated should be those that are weak/unwell. Not only women and children.
Protect those that need protection, irrespective of their gender. ""

liveLongNprospa:
Lmao she said it and that's fine for her.
Would you consider the act of chivalry an insult to your worth as a woman?

Act of chivalry rooted in sexism and gender stereotypes of women being weak? Yes I would.

liveLongNprospa:
I am actually okay.
I have a wife and mother.
I like every other man would ensure that they get preferential treatment in such a situation.

Question is would you as a woman accept the preferential treatment or refuse it in such a situation.
That question should not be hard

If you are ok with your life being treated like a 2nd class citizen then that's your business. If others are not and want to fight to be treated equally then it's also their right. They are men that are not ok with it that's why they are men activist and Men rights movement. Always speak for yourself.

This reminds me of what Chimamnda Adiche said. "" She said holding doors shouldn't be a gender thing. We should hold doors for each other, or anyone that needs such help...not just because she is a woman!
She went on to add that, in the event of danger---the first set of people to be evacuated should be those that are weak/unwell. Not only women and children.
Protect those that need protection, irrespective of their gender. ""

liveLongNprospa:
With women being given preference over men in this situation.

Like I said, I'm sure if you were there ehn.. You would have told them that it is not good and probably waited

You are not making sense. Are you ok with your gender lifes being treated as 2nd class citizens in that situation? A simple yes or no would suffice.

liveLongNprospa:
Of course I am.
I'm sure you also have a problem with it and if you were there, you'd have told them that only children should get preferential treatment🤲

Have a problem with what?

BlueRayDick:
Tag the feminists make we start another discussion from there

You should be tagging Male activist and Men rights group.

liveLongNprospa:
Again this is not equality oo👀

You are basically calling out the patriarchy system.

Ibime:
Paying a reasonable level of tax is fine until politicians start becoming frivolous with it. Nobody will complain to pay tax to cover emergency services, free education to secondary school, military , infrastructure, healthcare and shelter for the homeless

It's when they start paying stuffs that should be personal responsibility that I begin to vex

eg free school meals for kids when those kids parents can afford to smoke 20 cigar per day. I still dey vex with Marcus Rashford over that matter.

The one wey off me na when Scotland mandate all public bathroom to have free tampons for women and labelled it "period poverty". So you telling me there is a single woman in Scotland that cannot put aside 50 pence from her monthly budget for that time of the month?

Yes they are homeless people and schoolgirls that can't afford Tampons . . Scotland also has free Viagra for men, free birth control,free condom, free std screening, free university tuition, free eye tests. Etc Sponsoring free basic amenities and wares is better than wasting billions on a new Jet Carrier and AK-47s.

stxrlight:
That's it. That's it right there.

Cooking is 'unmanly'.

Men and fragile egos. Same reason they are scared of financially and independent women who they can't control with their little change. Men, particularly African men, are raised thinking that they are to be the provider; sole more than likely. Gender stereotyping is still rampant. A woman is to cook and clean; a man is to work. A woman who can do what a man can do renders a man useless.


I will always tell women to strive to be financially independent and you will see men aren't worth Sh.itt. Women, when you begin to buy things for yourself, take yourself out, and shower yourselves with gifts, you will see that most men have nothing more than material things to offer. That's the reason they are scared of the feminist movement.

BlaqFaze:
Do you have balls for sperm?

If you want to fix something, you should tackle it from the root source

Think of a way to have balls

You are going off the rails as usual. If you don't know the difference between Gender and Sex then that's your headache.

Emaprince:
So a man should be cooking and not go out there and work his ass off like other men ...so he can provide for his immediate familly and extended familly?

You will be such a bad adviser to any man close to you.

Charity starts at home.

Preach this to your brothers..and sons. Thanks.

But a woman should be cooking and not go out there and work her ass off ...so she can provide for her immediate familly and extended familly if she wants ?

You will be such a bad adviser to any woman close to you.

Emaprince:
You want a man to be your sit at home husband and your cook?

Will you see him as masculine again? Will he appear attractive to you since he was foolish enough to lose his masculinity trying to pander to your whims?

It's been clearly stated that Feminism is doing their best to emasculate men of our time. That's why we are having effeminate men every where. But funny thing is same women will cheat on their effeminate men with masculine men.

I'm sure in real life...you will never touch such man with a pole..let alone marrying him.

Talk one thing and do another.

Thank you for proving the only reason why men wants woman to stay in the kitchen is Because it's a means to show their superiority. A master and slave kind of situation. You find cooking as a man dehumanizing but for a woman it's their pride lmao. I said it before men have fragile ego.

BlaqFaze:
let's reverse the role of pregnancy first

Do you have womb for that?

BlaqFaze:
You can be the bread winner in your home while your husband do house chores

and you have a problem when the roles are reversed why?

BlaqFaze:
Because the man is busy being the bread winner

Why are you expecting the man to fend for the family?

Why can the woman not be the bread winner and the man "the cook"?

BlaqFaze:
so expecting a woman to know to cook it's stigmatisation

When you begin your journey in "eliminating stigmatsed gender role"...

...you should start from pregnancy...why should a woman get pregnant

Then anything a man can do a woman can do better...

Why we have pussies, we can have dicks and fvck better than men

Stop typing meaningless things. Why are you expecting the woman to cook in a relationship and not the man? Let's start from there.

GloriousGbola:
If you continue like this, one will be forced to assume 4th wave femininism is anthtecical to maths/statistics.

Do we have equal numbers of male and female bodybuilders? Is there an even distribution? If not why? Is it because of discrimination?

Like I told your comrade you are the one arguing over numbers. They are male and female bodybuilders. Nothing a man can do that a woman can't do In the society. Gender roles is a farce.

BlaqFaze:
I said it's essential for a woman to know how to do domestic chores and most importantly cook as a housewife

You guys said it's misogyny because we are "limiting women" that they're life is not in the kitchen

Then you said you don't have a problem with a stay at home dad...why?

Where did equality go?

Going by your analogy, aren't you limiting men?

I thought you're pushing for equality

Did you miss my post were I said we are eliminating stigmatized gender roles. You think it's only women that it affects.

Kholiwe:
How does sexism and stigmatisation of gender roles not affect everyone? It affects your gender as well but society pressure won't allow them speak up because they need to keep the facade of masculinity up.

African men have prejudices against independent women because they are suffering from inferiority complex and a low self esteem. This is bred from male-dominated cultural norms that have been teaching them that a woman is of a "weaker sex". We see it in marriages were the woman earns higher, we see it when a woman is successful outside marriage, we see it when a woman is thriving after a divorce etc

Unlimited22:
Exactly, that's why the physical Standards in the US Marines are exactly the same for both men and women 😎

and ?

GloriousGbola:
What is the percentage female body builders compared to male body builders?

They are male and female bodybuilders. You have no point here.

BlaqFaze:
Because of equality...

You're pushing equality but really you want to be above men, rule a kingdom you didn't know how it was built... that's selfishness not "wokeness"

I really don't understand the point you are making. What is "above men" and "rule a kingdom "?

Unlimited22:
How many, compared to men?

Are there not also men who are okay with their spouses not cooking?

Your point is also moot.

You are the one debating the numbers. The fact is there is nothing a man can do that a woman cannot in the society.

BlaqFaze:
No

so why do you have a problem with a stay at home husband?

Unlimited22:
Lol

Is it only when the topic is sexual assault that you people remember ratios and percentages?

What's the number of male nurses compared to female nurses?

Miners, deep sea divers, plumbers, sewer workers, truck drivers, Marines, combat roles, firefighters, electricians, construction workers nko?

Prisoners, suicides nko?

Why is the draft in the USA male only?

Why are physical Standards different in many militaries around the world?

Abi we only remember gender roles when we're talking about comfortable cushy stuff?

Again, if you are okay with not cooking and your husband or whoever is too, y'all be fine. No come dey tell others wetin them go do.

All those roles you mentioned they are women in those professions. Your point is moot.

BlaqFaze:
is it good?

Do you have problem with a stay at home wife?

BlaqFaze:
Are they women that'll take care of a man and his kids... the man will be the househusband

so you don't know they are stay at home husbands?