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Leemzyy:
Yesterday you said"yes its the truth"(you officially just testify that jesus will reject you on d day of judgement)so let me rest

O God!!, did you have a little understand Go thougth that quote to understand what i said

Leemzyy:
Why re u making it look like you guys are the perfect ones and while we own"all the bad qualities" when we all know its not?u were the least i could expect this from

I can see you don't really understand christianity

sonmvayina:
So everybody is going to heaven

some little mistake in my quoting i have corrected it.

MaxInDHouse:
OK let's study it together.


But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.Genesis 9:4

What is the life in each living creature according to God's word above?

And what did Jesus say his blood will do for us?

Jesus said that anyone who eat my flesh and drink my blood such not die but i don't still understand what you are explaining

DoctorAbk:
Haba this is a lie from the pit of hell. I am currently residing from the said Kontagora. What actually happened was that the church got burn as a result of AEDC light. Both Muslims and Christians have been living peacefully from the said town. So, I don't see any reason why dey will burn a church

I won't comdemn anyboby they have'nt really inventigated the exact thing the cause the fire that burn the church

MaxInDHouse:
You need to know the Hebrew text translated "BREAD" in the Bible means.
It's FOOD and when Jesus said drink his blood he was talking about the source of life as recorded in the Bible book of Genesis 9:3-5

So Jesus is hereby telling us that if we want to continue living forever we need to continue taking instructions from him just as our body needs food daily and blood running in our system!

m!!,i don't understand the gen 9;3-5 that you are using to explain John 6:47-53 ?

Steep:
It is not a contradiction. God is one in essence but three in person.
Allah in the Koran wants to be more than one person badly that he keeps using "we" everywhere. Again Muslims do not know the meaning of tawheed they say tawheed mean Allah is only one but tawheed actually means a unification of many things.
In the old testament God use the word "us" to describe himself.
The nation of Israel is called an "He" even though they are made up of many persons.

You made good point here,so my question is how do you see this verses; mat 26;39,mark10:17-18,john 5;30,44, mark12;29-34,john 17:3. mulsim sees this verses I wrote to be Jesus submitting to God almighty

sonmvayina:
All the chapters and verses you posted are all from the Christian new testament. The only portion of the Tanakh you posted that is Isaiah 9:6 is talking about future king Hezekiah. As the portion says the son has already been given...
Trinity is a Christian ideas and only them has the power to explain it. As I am not. I sign out...

Shalom.

Isa 9:6; a child is born to us ! a son is given to us! and he will be our ruler.he will be called,"wonderful counsel" "MIGHT GOD","ETERNAL FATHER","PRINCE OF PEACE" So how is it now king hezekiah he was talking of. So is it now hezekiah that is called might God ?

MaxInDHouse:
There are many spirit sons of God according to the Bible {Job 38:7} the spirit that came to this planet and became Jesus lived in the spirit realms for uncountable years he is the first created spirit and later worked with his father in making all other things! Proverbs 8:22-30 compare to John 1:1-2
According to the Bible his name is Michael the Archangel. He is called the Archangel because he is the only one of his kind {Jude :9} he said when God was creating everything he was beside God like a master worker trained to do the job but out of all the things God created through him {Colossians 1:15-16} he preferred humans most {Proverbs 8:31} that's why he is ever ready to do whatever he could to save us from the curse of sin! Daniel 12:1-3

I can go on and on but you have to sit down and learn all of these through a Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses otherwise you will only continue claiming Christian with no knowledge of the Bible just like billions out there.

I was a Muslim when i met Jehovah's Witnesses and i can't quote anything in the Bible but today you can testify to what i can do with a copy of the Bible in my hand.

These are comments from those who had listened to me in fact they often make me feel like i know too much but i always tell them that they can know better than me if only they have a pure heart and willing to learn from the one and only organization God is using to educate people today. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

See their comments:

but there were archangels in the Bible angel Gabriel was also an archangel in the bible so how is Jesus now angel Michael, what of archangel Gabriel?

MaxInDHouse:
@Kingsempires
You can see what i told you, where were they when you asked the question?
They have nothing to say but when they heard or see one of Jehovah's Witnesses come to help you they will jump in to argue without making any tangible contributions to the topic of discussion.

Try to read their comments but this time think about what they are here to do if not just to disturb the ongoing discussion.

This is what Jesus said about these type of people:
"Woe to you, .......... hypocrites! because you shut up the Kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in" Matthew 23:13

They're not ready to learn but they're battle prepared to block others from learning.
If i leave the thread for you and them there is nothing they can contribute other than abuse and curses.

ok another question I want to ask;
In John 6;47-53 when Jesus was saying I'm the bread of life. So have anybody prophet in the bible called his self bread of life that if anyone eat my flesh and drink my blood will not die. If you also read Luke chapter 22;14-23 you will also see when Jesus took the bread and wine and blessed it and said this is my body and also when he bless the wine he also said this is my blood so what did you understand in this verses I have quoted for you

No prophet in the Bible have made such a statement like that before. Jesus is the only one that made those statements

StillDtruth:
Trinity or no trinitity, you are going to hellfire if you are an enemy of God!

don't be angry for my question; islam,Jw,etc are not enemies for God. So is it wrong for the way they believe God ?

Janosky:

In heaven,Jesus Christ said himself is a worshipper of "my God" in heaven.

Oga,what is your own explanation to Revelation 3:12?

So is there any part of the bible that said that if you worship Jesus you will go to hell ?

So maxinhouse,a part like joh 8;58 when jesus said before abraham I AM and if you go to exodus 3;14 God said,"I am who I am.this is what you must say to them:'the one who is called I AM has sent me to you .what is your thougth for Jesus using the phase "I AM' to described hiself ?

Janosky:
Oga, Jesus said the statement of Revelation 3:12 in your own Bible.
Whether you accept or reject it, that's your choice.

Shalom

so what is your explaination to this verse to what I quoted above

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus himself asked his first century Jewish disciples and this is what happened:

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.Matthew 16:13-17

What do you think about this conversation between Jesus and his disciples?

peter's answer was son of the living God and he was correct. So what I understand there is that Jesus is the son of God if there is more explaination on the verse you can explain to me.

Janosky:
This is how God rewards those He has judged worthy, please study Revelation 3:12.

Oga,What did your Jesus reveal to your heart in that verse?

Men!!!, what did you want me to say; me and you are not believing the same thing .are you going to say that am going to hell for the way i believe God is or am I going to say that you will go to hell because of the way you believe God is that is why i said i leave everything for God to Judge so can't misunderstand my quote

So janosky my question is who is Jesus to you

TenQ:
I almost became a Muslim while in school through Ahmed Deedats publications. Thanks be to God who guided me to first read the Qur'an before reciting the Shahada.

I didn't even reach half way before I knew that it would have been the biggest mistake of my life. I then devoted my time to understanding both Islam and the Gospel of Christ.

Glory be to God almighty

MaxInDHouse:
Nobody can explain anything about TRINITY in the Bible because there is nothing like TRINITY it's just a doctrine brought in the name of Jesus so if you want to know the truth just go to any THEOLOGY SCHOOLS where most people claiming pastors today got their skills to teach and ask those lecturing them there to explain TRINITY to you, all they will tell you is the same thing they've been telling billions of TRINITY worshipers:

"It's the holy ghost that will TEACH you"

That's why you have over 41,000 different sects all defining Trinity differently leading to contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

There is nothing called Trinity in God's word!

that is why I wanted some explanation because other religion like Muslims sees that as polytheism so can you really explain some chapters and verses like Matthew 28;18-19, John 10;30 , Romans 14;17-18 Don't you think that it explaining about the Trinity

Janosky:
The one wey read John 1:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6 & Hebrew 1:2 without understanding the important Greek word "dia antou" in all the 3 verses but still come Nairaland dey type GIBBERISH.

so explain how you understood the chapters and verses that he quoted here

Leemzyy:
Lol mr TENQ see this;61:6:and remember jesus the son of mary said"o children of israel,i am the messenger of Allah sent to you,confirming the law before me and giving glad tidings,for a messenger to come after me,whose name shall be "AHMAD" but when he come to them with clear signs they said this is evident sorcery,lol so now stop avoiding this simple question,i said is jesus lying? yes or no?

oh God, how can you be using quoting that came out 500 years after Jesus to ask if Jesus was lying or not there is nothing like that in the Gospels of the new testament or in the early Gospels of 1st to 2nd century. Jesus didn't said a messenger is coming after him . in the gospels of the new testament the only person he said that is coming are he is the holy Spirit john 14;26 and the holy Spirit came in act chapter 2.the people that wrote the gospels were eye witnesses of Jesus. Mohammed wasn't an eye witness of Jesus Christ so I don't believe what your Quran said about Jesus Christ

TenQ:
Did Mohammed ever met Jesus? No!
Was there any evidence that he saw Jibril? No!

Is Allah not the name of the chief idol of the Quraysh tribe?

Mohammed transformed your God LAH to to the status of the God of Israel.



Don't forget that you escaped from answering my first question to you.



Can you tell me why you Muslims kiss the black stone if it has no benefit?


Your prophet says that the black stone forgives the sins of you Muslims

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 959
Ibn Ubaid bin Umair narrated from his father:
"Ibn Umar was clinging on the two corners (in a manner that I had not seen any of the Companions of the Prophet doing) so I said: 'O Abu Abdur-Rahman! You are clinging on the two corners in a manner that I have not seen any of the Companions of the Prophet clining.' So he said: 'I do it because I heard the Messenger of Allah saying: "Touching them atones for sins." And I heard him saying: "Whoever performs Tawaf around this House seven times and he keeps track of it, then it is as if he freed a slave." And I heard him saying: "One foot is not put down, nor another raised except that Allah removes a sin from him and records a good merit for him."


Your prophet said that the black stone will testify for you on the day of judgement

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 961
Ibn Abbas narrated that:
The Messenger of Allah said about the (Black) Stone: "By Allah! Allah will raise it on the Day of Resurrection with two eyes by which it sees and a tongue that it speaks with, testifying to whoever touched it in truth."


Can you explain why did your prophet kissed the black stone if it is a useless ordinary stone?

Sahih al-Bukhari 1610
Narrated Zaid bin Aslam that his father said:
"I saw `Umar bin Al-Khattab kissing the Black Stone and he then said, (to it) 'Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you, (stone) I would not have kissed you.' "

Mr Qasim6, why do you Muslims kiss the black stone if it has no single benefit?


You are an Idolater feigning monotheist

are you a Muslim before

Leemzyy:
Na true or not mr man?

I know is truth, what you quoted is right so what of Mark(16:19): "The Lord Jesus was received up into heaven," and speaks in verse 20 of "the Lord working with them." Similarly we read in Luke 24:3: "They found not the body of the Lord." And in John 20:20: "The disciples therefore were glad when they saw the Lord;" 21:12: "And none of the disciples durst ask him, ... So you can see that Jesus is also called lord that you quoted in those verses you quoted

Leemzyy:
Lol mr man,also look at this,in the day of judgement,what jesus will say to the christians(mathew 7:22-24)22=many will say to me on that day"lord lord,did we not prophesy in your name,and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles,23=then i will tell them plainly"i never knew you,depart from me,you worker of lawlessness,24=therefore everyone who listen to this word of mine and act on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock

I can see that's the way you understood the verse

Qasim6:
If you read the evidence you presented very well, you will know what I claimed is correct

what evidence do you know me to should you again that what he quoted was 325 ad and not 381 ad go Google it. Is open and clear in Google.

Janosky:

Oga polytheist,After you read both screenshots again.

Go and follow your Trinitarian mentors & that illiterate pastor deceiving you.

who you come dey call illiterate pastor?

MaxInDHouse:
If God be the judge then your Pope shouldn't disagree with whatever others teach about God!

so which teaching should he agree of

Qasim6:
U should re-use that Google to check the creed again

What you are quoting should be from 381AD and not 325AD

what he quoted for you was 325ad and not 381ad this is the evidence

I believe there are some people that can explain it well

Ken4Christ:
Receive the free gift of salvation that is in Christ alone and have peace.

it is really a free gift

Christian on this thread you guys should stop killing yourselves. There is no format on earth that you people will bring that this atheist will not defend themselves.

Janosky:
Your fellow Trinitarians (since the time of Martin Luther) have confessed that Jesus your deity is archangel Michael.

Why is the same ghost giving all of you conflicting information?

oga leave me alone everybody knows the way he/she knows God na this nairaland were I see very stubborn debaters the only thing I want to start doing on nairaland is to be asking questions that I don't understand. Because I have noticed that the are people on this nairaland that have knowledge very well about religion