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Emusan:
You see the reason why you should understand a discussion properly before jump into it.

Who is talking about Jesus miraculous conception?

We're talking about Jesus delivery, did Jesus pass through Mary vaginal or not?

sorry oo!! ,na now i understand what you are saying



Brought the question you asked I no go fit answer am oo

Emusan:
So, Matt 1 actually proved that Mary delivered Jesus vaginally.

this is the reason why i ask are you a Christian. What type of proof do you want mat 1 to give you that mary conceived Jesus by the holy Spirit

That is why I liked Jehovah witness . Jehovah witness people do things together not like others Christians denomination that fight each othee

StillDtruth:
You have seen what my insalt looks llile, so this is not it. This is only a decription and declaration of Truths we all have.seen and say about catholics/jws and it was interesting sto see him lie using the bible, exactly what jws do.

men!! This is not Good. Why don't you face your own denomination and not putting mouth for others. No one knows what will happen on the last day. Don't be surprised when it will be the Catholic that you are calling fruad that will make heaven or the the jws that you are calling evil will make heaven.


I don't care what people say about the Catholic, after all when I was going to Pentecostal churches I no dey like to dey go church I no dey even go throw my Bible

It was went I became a Catholic member that I started understanding Christianity. So that is why you see me sometimes I ask questions. Whether jws/Catholic/Pentecostal i ask them questions.

I no get time to dey condemn people's church all I know is I study my Bible do what is right and I pray to God


Even the peticostal church are not one dey judge themselves so anyhow you see the church that's your own business

Emusan:
So, Matt 1 actually proved that Mary delivered Jesus vaginally.

men are you a Christian

Emusan:
Okay, quote the Bible verse for me!

Mat 1

StillDtruth:
We were talking about 2 now,
1) calling a woman who gave birth a virgin.
2) doing like jws in denying the bible which.Saith she had other children.
3) Lying you don't worship Mary whereas you are.
4) Lying you don't worship images whereas, we are looking at you bowing and kneeling to them.

https://www.nairaland.com/7600700/why-catholic-church-evil-majority#121547568


See it. You have nothing. Galations is about sins and schism is about division and separation from a group eg cult, church political party, band of kidnappers.

You people and jws are the same. Liars and frauds!

men!!, this thread is not all about critcise a religion. See as you dey insult catholic,latter you will insult JWs. You can see a catholic person talking about someone faith. Were you stand self ?

AntiChristian:
Which of the news?

What you wrote above

Emusan:
Did Jesus pass through Mary womanhood?

This question way you they ask me you no they read bible

Qasim6:
Isaiah 53 is about Prophet Jeremiah.

Were are you bring all this from

Emusan:
Through eye witnesses that Jesus didn't pass through the womanhood of Mary.

So who are the eye witnesses according to early church?

What i am talking of is mary being perpetual virgin

Qasim6:
If this is you summary, I now understand perfectly why you are a Christian.

- U take Isaiah 53 as a prophecy about Jesus despite the fact that the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is supposed to have offspring. and Isaiah 53 is at loggerhead with Psalm 91 a confirmed prophecy about Jesus.

- you agree with some "concensus of scholars" rather than the prophecies of prophets in the Bible.

- you use your Christian understanding of some terms like "Son of God", "Son of man" to claim divinity for Jesus in ancient Jewish writings.

But make we no finished all the discussion on this thread.

Enjoy your day bro.

so which servant was isalah 53 talking about

Emusan:
But the scripture recorded the birth of Jesus and nothing was said about being miraculous.

If it's not recorded in the scripture, where did erlarly church get such info from?

Through eye witnesses

SIRTee15:
So since Qasim won't take up the challenge, let's close the case and move to another topic.
Summary
We have been able to prove without any iota of doubt that
Ancient Judaism believed in the divine Messiah.
Ancient Jews believed a Messiah is coming who will die for their sin according to Isaiah 53. They call him the redeemer.
Daniel 7 and 8 is reference to Greece and desecration perpetrated by Anthiochus Epiphanes.

Thank u

great Job

StillDtruth:
We know, the wide meaning of the word breathren means relative.

But we also see and appreciate the narrow meaning of brethren which means biological brothers as we see in Joseph and his brothers/Judah's sons, Er and Onan.

And the whst differentiates these 2 meanings is their lineage.

They were relatives of Jesus that is why the Bible calls them is "brethren", but they were not children of Mary the mother of Jesus.
Do you understand?

If bethren.means relatives, then Mathew will not say brethren because him, matthew and the whole of Isreal, whether Nazareth or Capernaum or Jerusalem are his relatives.

men!!, why would you be saying that the roman C are liars. Are they the only church that teaches that mary was a perpetual virgin ?

AntiChristian:
Shia Muslims most likely!

Those type that celebrate Christmas with you in your churches from the north!

The El-Zaki Zakki people!

Are they Muslims?

Dey play o!

1. 77% of new converts to Islam are from Christianity, while 19% come from non-religious backgrounds.

2. According to estimates, approximately 12.5 million people converted to Islam in recent years.

3. A report indicated that the average age of those converting to Islam in the U.S. is 31 years, which is about twice the average age of those converting to Christianity.

4. Pew Research estimates that Islam is growing by about 100,000 converts annually in the United States.

You'll be surprised in the next few decades!

were is your news coming from

Ilamina:
my teeth is, rotten

And I feel I am going too disfigure myself more in the future

I thought in your other thread you said you cut of your hand

Ubenedictus:
on point

you just come on nairaland once a while

Steep:
He is a fool.

no be small fool

🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

MaxInDHouse:
Please ask anyone as in ANYONE who claims he or she is ExJW why they can't present any better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION.

Well i'm telling you now that we can travel to any part of the globe and a home is awaiting us there as long as Jws are there!

We have what is called the DPA card of identity for all Jehovah's Witnesses so whenever anyone presents it we don't question his presence in our homes that's why the enemies of God are trying to use false accusations to blackmail us but that can only work for those who are not within no matter what they think, say or do with my DPA card anywhere on this planet is home for MaxInDhouse unless there is no JWs there which is impossible!

una dey try ooo

Qasim6:
dey there dey shine teeth. I go use prophecy wound you and your champion.

men!!, this is your forge interpretation let me just post the link so that you can see it


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_8#:~:text=The%20symbols%20of%20the%20ram,and%20Syria%20in%20Hellenistic%20astrology.

Steep:
are you ok?

I wonder were the person from come

He thought that they are cracking jokes here

MaxInDHouse:
Pity people who are globally united as one big and happy family or people who aren't friendly even though they are all saying God doesn't exist.
If i happens to be in any country today by accident a home is waiting for me in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses anywhere as in ANYWHERE on planet earth

wow!! is that true?

AntiChristian:
It is truly mysterious!

That's why Jesus didn't mention or explain it anywhere!

Read attached picture before this below:

you fit post the link here ? Make I read the full story there

Petalss:
The third person will be fanning the two seated on the throne.

na wa oo

StillDtruth:
Only those who are enemies of God feel so.

was are order thread something real

Ilamina:
don't you feel frustrated about life sometimes and asked why you exist

I feel that sometimes, so stop being harsh. On me

what's your problem ?

Aemmyjah:
Goats that ruminate are poorly designed na
You wanted the Creator to move the birth canal to the nose right?

the point is that he wants God to came down from heaven to show him heself so that he will now believe the existence of God .


So he thought that God is a magician that if he say; God, if you are real proof it to me.
God will now come down from heaven to show him his self.



Men!!, there are many lost souls out there. So if he is thinking that God will show his self before he believes he have failed wolfy.


God is a miracle working God not a Magician

SIRTee15:
I gnored that claim because it was clear ignorance.
Immediately after Hadrian's death, Jews were allowed to return to Jerusalem.
Father Jerome wrote the Latin vulgate bible in 382 AD with the help of the Jews living inside Jerusalem.
Jerome didn't want to use the greek Septuagint for his old testament translation.
Instead he travelled to Jerusalem and met with Jewish rabbi who taught him Hebrew and helped him with the translation of Tanakh to Latin.

you just dey give am evidence, tell am make him bring in own evidences too

SIRTee15:
Your whataboutism will not save u. I will embarrass U will ton of evidence until U are embarrassed to deny it.

Imagine telling me to reject old testament Scholastic work on book of Daniel and accept his own.
Imagine substituting actual temple for a mointian....wuruwuru to the answer.
Yet he's the one accusing me of forcing Jesus into the old testament.
I will come back and debunk your wuruwuru extrapolation.

Meanwhile collect another evidence of divine Messiah from the Essene.
Essenes, Pharisees and Sadducees sects were the Judaism philosophy in the 2nd temple period.
One of their popular member of Essene was John the Baptist.
Now let's look at what the mainstream Essene believed in that period.

The book of Enoch was a interesting book, it identify Jesus as "THE CHOSEN ONE" upon the book was thousands of years before christ

SIRTee15:
I gnored that claim because it was clear ignorance.
Immediately after Hadrian's death, Jews were allowed to return to Jerusalem.
Father Jerome wrote the Latin vulgate bible in 382 AD with the help of the Jews living inside Jerusalem.
Jerome didn't want to use the greek Septuagint for his old testament translation.
Instead he travelled to Jerusalem and met with Jewish rabbi who taught him Hebrew and helped him with the translation of Tanakh to Latin.

Thank God you do come see wetin i dey see for here. I don't know were this guy is bring his history from