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spotlessduke:
ewwww! She looks ugly She's a typical 'Y' i no talk anytin oh

BUSHHUNTER:
And I can understand why you are a dropout

Acidosis:
She has something that is very valuable to a Modelling expert. Its all about possessing something that's of value to people.

Please what does Mayweather has that made him extremely rich? After all we have many broke boxers and agbero fighters in Lagos.

BUSHHUNTER:
Nigerians are very stup!d...because one dude graduated with 5.0 we should not have peace again?


Ion even give a fork if he graduate with 10.0...what abt we with 2.1 2 2 even 3rd we no get brain abi...

E beta make I celebrate olajumoke to this crap!

Acidosis:
If a first class graduate cannot pay one room rent in Yaba, that means he is a f00l.

No apology

Abi e wan live for banana Island?

I'd rather encourage those who failed while trying to hustle on campus to meet up with school fees hike and accommodation fee.

YEYE noisemakers. Who doesn't know academics generally is not a lucrative sector.

How many professors earn half of Davidos monthly earnings in 2years? Let's stop crying over nothing. If the boy wants to earn like Olajumoke, he should simply join the modelling industry.

Some of these professors earn peanuts. An average Banker with less than 5yr experience in Access bank earn more than 70 year old professors in Ekiti State University. There is no point crying over nothing. That's life, and that's the way it will always be.

We all know how much Mikel Obi earns for mere sitting in bench.

Nobody will help that boy simply because he made first class. He has to work his way through to success. And please, let's stop the baseless comparisons, Olajumoke has something no one else has. The boy is equally a king in his own right. Let each work their way through to success.

The only way he can earn like Davido is to work and act like Davido.

Pastor Kumuyi, MFM pastor Olukoya and many more are first class graduates, but they worked their way through to success. I'm sure we wouldn't have known them if they had opted for lecturing jobs. Today they have churches all over the world including mega private schools and universities. One studied microbiology, the other did maths, all from Unilag.

That's the basics of life. KUMUYI & OLUKOYA translated their intelligence into lucrative pentecostal Ventures, I expect that boy to do same with the few connections he has gotten so far.

babyfaceafrica:
That because evven when the fight,they don't take it persnal like Igbos I know,the move on!!!

UlqU3:
And the men should take

- Fatherhood leave
- "just paid bills" trauma leave
- "my daughter brought a man home" leave
- El classico and UCL warmup leave

Smh

Armaggedon:
op u are not very correct. Infact u are not being fair to Igbos.

As far as religion is concerned, Igbos are the least gullible pple. No igbo takes religion to the extreme like Hausa and yoruba do.

For example, pastor muoka of the lords chosen was accussed by his member of underhand spiritual dealings

pastor Awuzia of zoe ministry was also accussed also

but yoloba pastors who commit similar crimes are instead revered and hailed by their kinsmen as 'Daddy' even Tb Joshua who was caught on tape trying to cover the death of close to 100 members of his church has not been touched.

Adeboye,kumuyi and co are just like revd king but are feigning saintly mien. If tb joshua was igbo he would be in jail by now

summary: igbos expose their criminal pastors, yolobas cover and worship thiers

killing revd king may be justice but leaving his yoloba mates is injustice because equality is equity

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they are calling me names because i said the truth. Yes! Revd king committed a crime and he is no man of God. But i have never seen a yoruba condemn joshua for close to hundred pple that died. the fact that those that quoted and cursed me are yolobas lends credence to my assertion.

talktonase:
how dollar take affect the pure water wey them dey make for back yard abi is the water imported?

iwadobo:
It is true. Most Cubans are yoruba. I leant the Oba of Benin usually raid most yoruba land, take as many as possible people hostage and sell them to the Europeans. When slave trade was eventually abrogated, most of the people recently taken hostage and sold ,were all gathered in Cuba. Most freed slaves ,moSt of which are of yoruba descent, were also sent to Cuba. It is a sad story of oppression by a very powerful oba over a people without any powerful king.

erunz:
The truth of the matter is that even if anyone rejects the fact “that Ife Monarchy is derived from Igodo monarchy”, it changes nothing about the reality that the Monarchy in Benin City is still Number One among Oduduwa’s children. I mean: let it be assumed that Oduduwa came from Egypt, Mecca, Sudan, Ethiopia (where the Oromo Region has a nationality fraction called Oromiyas) or from Orun, as heaven or a place we do not know, with a chain made of iron if not some other metal, it does not change the fact that the dumb one who learnt to talk by naming himself Owomika, ‘my hand has stuck it’, the first Benin monarch after the Ogisos, was the first child of Oramiyan whose children built the empires that our part of the world remembers.

I am a Republican, not a Royalist. But, in a country in which we have all conceded the coexistence of Republican and Royalist values, it should be considered quite unseemly to watch one set of the interacting values being rough-handled, muddied or treated with improper decorum without feeling a need to intervene on behalf of rectitude. I have been so challenged since the eruption of the controversy ignited by the Alake of Egbaland, Oba Adedotun Gbadebo, who allowed himself to do a ranking of Yoruba Obas that placed the Oba of Benin as third in the hierarchy. In one sense, as Chief David Edebiri, the Esogban of Benin, immediately retorted, it is wrong to rank the Oba of Benin among Yoruba Obas because the Oba of Benin is not a Yoruba and therefore cannot be placed on a list of Yoruba Obas. I call it ‘in a sense’ because the Esogban’s position may be disputed on the grounds, as will soon be clear, that there is too much siblinghood between Yoruba and Benin traditional rulers for the ethnic difference between them to be rendered in cast-iron terms.

The special relationship between Yoruba and Benin obas, not unlike the relationship between Benin and Onitsha kings, or between Lagos and Edo kings, makes it all the more impolitic to do a ranking of the Benin monarchy in Yoruba royal affairs without abiding by certain inter-subjective and shared norms. And let me note, very quickly, that it is the presence of such norms that makes it quite normal for Chief Edebiri to put the Oba of Benin as Number One without appearing to contradict himself. In his response to the Alake, Chief Edebiri has argued, quite simply, that the term oba was not used to describe Yoruba kings until the Oba of Benin got there. This may well be disputed. Except that it has the merit of being close to verisimilitude when he argues that the king of Ibadan was called Olu, the king of Abeokuta was called Alake, the king of Oyo was called Alaafin; only the Benin monarch was Oba. With the backing of glotto-cultural studies, however, we should be able to impute that the term, Oba, is a root word shared by both the Yoruba and the Edo languages and that among the sixteen kings that reigned in Ile-Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa’s party, many had Oba as prefix to their names. To say this amounts to jumping ahead of the argument a little. But let me add, for those who are not familiar with this piece of anthropology, that Oduduwa, the acknowledged founder-ancestor, the progenitor of the Yoruba nationality, was a stranger who met a historical line of obas in Ile Ife, the last of whom was Obatala, the leader of the Igbo, the autochthons, later deified as god of creativity or creation, sometimes synced with Orunmila, for wisdom. Make your pick.

Let me also add that from the studies of the Ifa divination system made by several scholars, as imbibed from traditional Ifa devotees, it is those sixteen elders whom Oduduwa met in Ife that provided the sub-structure of Ifa as a formal system of wisdom into which people could be initiated in the way that we all go to tertiary institutions to learn philosophy, jurisprudence and mathematics. Or mathemagics, if you like. It is of very grave significance in this narrative that we should acknowledge that the Ifa Divination system, before the intervention of Islam, Christianity, and Lord Frederick Lugard’s balkanisation and regionalisation of traditional gnosis, was based on the existential patterns or prowess of the sixteen elders, or kings, who formed the planks upon which the wisdom of the people, by ritual accretions, was organised. Every good student of Ifa should know that in the Edo Divination system of Igwega, two of the sixteen elders have been displaced by Edo personages who are not to be found in the Ife version as designed by Agbonmiregun, the Master, who went from Ekiti to Ile Ife and established the rounded system of Ifa Divination as passed by other masters between the Edo, Nupe, Igala and Yoruba devotees. It can be imagined that, as a matter of ritual, they gathered at Ife, which was quite the centre of their world, for a divination that transcended ethnicities but was based on a common worship of the earth mother, Efa. All the forest peoples, from Dahomey to the Cameroon mountains, across the Nri of Igboland and past Ogoja, were devotees of one form or other of Ifa Divination. The historian, Ade Obayemi, has imputed that so many concepts in Yoruba Ifa, which some devotees may regard as mumbo jumbo, are actually Nupe terms that proper glotto-cultural analysis and translation could redeem. This partly explains why Benin Kings could induct or abduct and adopt Igbo medicine men who became part of the common national culture, as Egharevba, the Benin historian vouchsafes. What a linguistic, glotto-cultural analysis tells us is that in Ile-ife, before the dispersal occasioned by Oduduwa’s emergence, the Yoruba language, as one among many in the Kwa language complex, was once the same language with others including the Igbo and that they still share common root words beyond the simple ones like Omi and miri.

So if Chief Edebiri’s resort to linguistic analysis wont help a resolution of the ranking of the Yoruba obas, what will? I suppose it is the discomfort of trying to answer such a question, and the fear of being wrong-footed in a bid to dabble into what appears to be quite esoteric, that has warded off many of the dignitaries who have been asked by journalists to respond to the controversy. Some of them think it a needless controversy that could detract from more worthwhile issues of the moment. True, there are crying problems that our society needs to face and resolve. Some political entrepreneurs who require a united front in order not to disperse collective energies have been quick to advise against worsening of the already existing inter-ethnic divisions in our midst. Somehow, they do not consider that to ignore the controversy or down play its driven logic, could harden the ranking that has been attempted and, to that extent, make it quite affirmable with the accretion of time. Of course, those who are already convinced of its veracity and have lived in the shadow of its ritualised affirmation, all their lives, would want the ranking to remain as they know it. Hence, they act bored by the controversy and would therefore wish that we move on quickly to other matters. Unfortunately, (or fortunately, depending on how you see it) the controversy won’t go away.

It happens to be the case that the ranking of the Obas takes on a life of its own within every effort to build a sense of common nationality among Yoruba people. Every bid by the Yoruba to unite under a common leader or in conformity with a presumption of common ancestry, has always yielded one form of such ranking or the other. It has become part of a modernist or modernising project which nation-builders escape only when they are able to put the knowledge industry at the centre of their quest.

At any rate, this is not the first time it has visited or reared its head. The ranking, as it happens, is so deeply rooted in the ethnic unconscious of some people that there is good reason for the palace in Benin City to wish, with each eruption of the controversy, to put the records, or lack of records, straight. It happens to be the case that the ranking of the Obas takes on a life of its own within every effort to build a sense of common nationality among Yoruba people. Every bid by the Yoruba to unite under a common leader or in conformity with a presumption of common ancestry, has always yielded one form of such ranking or the other. It has become part of a modernist or modernising project which nation-builders escape only when they are able to put the knowledge industry at the centre of their quest. Especially, with the establishment of the Egbe Omo Oduduwa on home ground in 1948, the business of building up such a knowledge industry, creating a formal historiography to get it right, has been part of every bid at nation-building. With bounding successes in research and publications, everything seemed to be going fine before the regression that came with political crisis in the sixties and the virtual abandonment of the enlightenment project that Obafemi Awolowo is still rightly praised for.

http://blogs.premiumtimesng.com/benin-kingdom-vs-yoruba-race-why-oba-of-benin-is-number-one-by-odia-ofeimun/

hinwazaka:
What a joke. You probably came up with this because of his inclusion in the team that escorted PMB to the US. Well let me clear you on some schematics you didn't see while fathoming this parody.
The relationship between PMB and the pastor ended the moment the ACN brokered the deal for the Osinbajo VP candidature. Just so you know PMB does not give a hoot about anyone but PMB likewise the pastor. Both men are Narcissistic and very selfish and it was the hand of God to ruin their chances of getting to Aso rock together. If that had happened it would have been a catastrophe because we will have seen a case of one ship, two captains. The only reason for the selfish pastor's inclusion was to go to the US with the original team known to Obama and the Democrats, to fool them into believing that all was well. But as expected the Americans saw through the charade, and briefed with already compiled reports, FIRED the APC. That is the short and long part of the story. Am afraid its not a Happily ever after story but rather will end up a TRAGEDY