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Danielnino00:
Nothing is open to debate .. it's just your emotions in play here..

As far back as 2016, when Osimhen was still struggling at the start of his professional career in Germany, you completely wrote him off and predicted all sort of doom ..it clear you don't rate him, so your opinion doesn't really matter...

Like I said, Osimhen has the accolades to back up the "world class striker" claim. If you're waiting for him to play in the premier league before you can acknowledge that fact, then you're on a long thing... nobody send you

Repeating a lie continuously 😠 doesn't make it a TRUTH. I challenge you too go back and find the post I wrote about him you tell lies worse than a Nigerian politician.

I was intrinsically clear I said VO was very poor and would not get into any top academy even a championship 🏆 one at THAT TIME. The admittance of failure is the beginning of success. The denial of failure results in more failure.

I said VO needs a football ⚽ re-education, has to reinvent himself,learn and develop. He should drop to a league develop and progress. That's exactly what he did that's what's called constructive criticism designed to improve. Well the rest is a history because he did exactly that .

I want you to compare him to Mbappe, Haaland, Salah, Kane, Lewondosky, who are clearly world class and say with all conscience he is world class.

He has had one good excellently exceptional season in Seria A that's essentially it. The Turkish league is not world class quality not part of the equation.

I should have put into the list Lukaku as world class but in last two seasons he hasn't been at his best then again he is 32.

Sugarboyy:
But you earlier said playing in a world class league doesn't make a player world class.
Does that means Rashford is only playing in a world class league but he isn't world class? But if you states otherwise, does Rashford stats makes him a world class player?

Can you tell me where I've said Rashford is world class please 🥺

junnyjake:
Wee yu keep kwayet??

Did Hojlund outscore Osimhen in all of his season at Serie A before securing a move to UTD?

What exactly is your point a comparison or just irrelevant ranting.

Rasmus Højlund is a good striker but not exceptional, how much did United pay for him ❓ He earns less than 33% of what VO earns in a week.

🤔

Danielnino00:
Oga, Osimhen is a world class striker ... Your opinion of him won't change the reality on ground...he has all the accolades to back it up...

Premier league clubs not willing to pay his wage demands doesn't take away his quality.... Football doesn't start or end in England...

A world 🌍 class striker is playing and making waves in the Turkish retirement league, are you satisfied with that 🤔

He needs to leave that league and compete with the best of the best and EXCELL consistently and continuously in a top league to be called world class.

What's the reality on the ground ❓ Premier league just talk nobody yet so far ( there is still time) Seria A and La Liga are not saying much, however there is still time.

Football is a short term career , there is no time to waist. However, if it's money 🤑 he wants alone then he should go to Saudi.

Danielnino00:
Oga, Osimhen is a world class striker ... Your opinion of him won't change the reality on ground...he has all the accolades to back it up...

Premier league clubs not willing to pay his wage demands doesn't take away his quality.... Football doesn't start or end in England...

My opinion is he is an outstanding top level striker but world class that's open for debate. He has only scored above 20 league goals in a top flight league once in his career.

I compared him to players who have done that consistently over several seasons in top level leagues that makes them World class.

opes:
Don't mind them. Even with AFCON, he scored the 15 goals from 25 matches played, is that not fair enough? They can worship their foreign strikers but they are always attacking Osimhen. Rashford earns almost $21M annually, yet he has never scored 18 league goals in a single season throughout his 11 years career in top flight football. Osimhen scored 26, they called him one season wonder..shmmm.
He should move to Saudi and earn big

Rashford is on £330k a week and has played in the best league in the world

Bannedlargejr:
Consistency at a world class league for few seasons at least 4 seasons

I used the term world class outstanding and I gave some examples like Mbappe.

Because you participated in world class league doesn't automatically make you world class.

He scored 13 goals from 27 games including 2 penalties by comparison Mbappe scored 18 goals from 20 games no penalties.

Mbappe was clearly world class outstanding.

lexy2014:
Pls define " world class outstanding player"

Go back and read my post it's SELF explanatory

Odunayaw:
Show the evidence

You are the the evidence 🧾

Aeons5248:
@TheSupernerd,

If Juventus or PSG are willing to meet his release clause,he can freely join either of the two teams.

I totally disagree with those saying that Osimhen should reduce his wages because he wants to play in the premier league not forgetting the high taxes in the UK.
Osimhen has proven himself everywhere he went. He did it during his U17 days, in Belgium,in France,In Italy and now in Turkey.

If Chelsea,Man UTd or Arsenal are unwilling to meet up with his demands. Let him go to Saudi Arabia.

We have seen players with lesser quality commanding high wages in the premier league. Have they done half of what he has achieved in football?
Must Victor Osimhen play in the Premier League?
Going to the Camel's league will not diminish his qualities.

He knows his self worth.
Let him do as he pleases.

No has not proven himself as a " world class outstanding player"

Players like Lewandoski, Mbappe, Haaland, Kane, Salah, etc have proven themselves consistently and continuously over several seasons.

VO was not the outstanding player, above average yes in Belgium,France and had one break out season in Seria A prior to that above average.

Now he is in the retirement league which if he stays too long will reduce his world rating .

The response from too clubs confirms the general perception very good player but not many clubs willing to meet his wage demands.

Napoleon55:
Why must u use Nigerian home grown midfielders to give ur examples? Is Ndidi and Onyeka the most ungifted midfielders u can think of?

We are discussing on a Nigerian platform.

Should I use Chinese players or players and their specific attributes that most of us are very familiar with ❓

A few seasons ago l said that Ola Aina was the best defender in the SE. I was given the usual dogs abuse and allegations of denigrating Nigeriam born players.

Here is what the athletic says about him


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6058967/2025/01/14/how-good-is-nottingham-forests-ola-aina/

akwesenana:
So he isn't loved in Galatasaray? 🤔

You think Turkish fans Love him MORE than Edo fans.

You used the deciding term MORE not me.

akwesenana:
Not because he changed position? Urhobogate, you've been missed.

It's not just the positional change it's the exceptional quality and adaptability that has made Scott McTominay. outstanding.

If you think it's so easy make Ndidi or Frank ( The Tank) play that position and see 🙈 what will happen.

Meliforme:
If i am Osimhen, I will choose the place that i am loved and wanted the most
, the reception he got even before he impressed,
but i am not Osmhen

If that's the only requirement.

Then maybe 🤔 he can play for Bendel Insurance in Benin he will be given near god status and be loved 😍 😍 by everyone

raddyworld:
The lady dragged senators, citizens and the name of the country in the mud, with the way she presented everything on air. So you expected a reasonable government to pipe low with that?
I wonder why you people supporting her. How would u feel if one of your family member went on tv to speak hill of your father and mother bcus they are trying to punish her as a parent for offence
I think a wise Nigerian knows when to fight when it comes to federal government cases.
Someone quoted me as in... When u attack apabio and some Tinubu boys you indirectly attacked Tinubu...

The witnesses against her tell the story as it is CORRUPTION fights back.

Yaya Bello
Akpabio

Nigeria 🤔 what a shame

Odunayaw:
The other day I was watching G.Neville, Roy Keane talking about him at Napoli with a tone that insinuates Serie A is lower hence his shine. Pundits

Unfortunately factually, statistically, and substantively proven to be true.

The EPL is faster, physically more taxing and much more competitive that's a fact. You may prefer sentiment over facts that's normal here.

Many premier league players unable to have dominance in the EPL , come to Seria A and become outstanding. The statistics are there for all to see.

Scott McTominay has in his 9 season in the EPL only scored 7 goals once there have been seasons where he scored 1 goal 🥅 a season. Now he scored 12 with 10 assists that's his career best by a huge margin.

opes:
Correct. He can only frustrate Italian clubs because the release clause excludes them. Any team outside italy that meets the €75M release clause and agrees on personal terms with Osimhen can sign him.

Subject to players terms being met

Goke7:
If you’re osihmen will you allow yourself to be underpaid ? You guys are just hyping these European clubs, make osihmen go break leg for salary that those who aren’t better than him are earning far more, na wa o

Unfortunately you don't get to set your wages and valuation by yourself 😕 you get what clubs value to be.

Underpaid is a opinionated deduction some may think 🤔 he is over paid.

He who has the drums 🥁🪘 determine the beat. The club's have the money 💰 and they will decide what value to put in you .

Football ⚽ is not 🚫 fair and we think he is the best striker in the world 🌎 but most clubs do not, that's the reality.

Jieta2:
You will never change, year in year out your sentiment toward homegrown players is the same. Chelsea bide for Osimhem they could not match osimhen asking price that is why they did not sign him.

Somebody here opined that Chelsea board set a standard financially which they don't want to exceed as the major reason why they did not sign VO because I know during the period of Roman Abrahimovic Chelsea don't back down on any player .

In your words and from year's of experience reading your epistle here you made me believe that you have access to all the top clubs in Europe so tell us what is it that top clubs in Europe are see in osihmen that make them don't want to sign him. Here [b]Because none of these top clubs are offering him what he wants or killing themselves to get him. That in itself says something about how they presumably see him and or rate him. This view is held by the majority of top clubs apart from us here, the fans [\b].you want us to believe they is something big clubs are see and the fans are not seeing it.

You did not have to write ✍🏿 this long epistle, just saying, "I completely agree with you" is suffice

opes:
I edited the post you quoted and included Rashford, who is a top earner at Man U despite never having scored 20 goals in a season. Just trying to support my argument that Osimhen is worth what he is demanding

Rashford came from Manchester academy he signed his first contract at about 16/17 with all the obligatory increments and clauses and scored two goal 🥅 on his debut in the premier league.

Longevity and loyalty has got him to that very lucrative contract as well as some outstanding seasons for Manchester United.

Comparing him to VO is flawed and seemingly not relevant.

opes:
Just like salah who never scored 20 goals at Osimhen's age and before he joined Liverpool..

The situation with Salah is different and you are misinforming us here.

First of Salah moved from a position as a traditional winger to the more modern inverted forward player. In Roma playing as a traditional winger he scored 14 goals first season and 15 goals second season he was 22. He was actually doing better than VO.

In 2017/18 Salah was 24 when he scored 32 Goals in the EPL and got the golden boot, FACT .

In 2022/23 VO scored 27 goals in Seria A , prior to that time he had never scored more than 14 league goals in his career. He had never been a top goal scorer at this stage and he was 24.

The other issue is Salah is more technically astute and adaptable in that he can play multiple positions across the front three.

VO is a quintessential number 9 and that's it , he is not adaptable to play as a winger inverted or otherwise in my opinion.

robosky02:
At least even if them no dey graduate
Every year them dey final year
One dey convocation fit mistakenly reach them


But imàgine Chelsea

shortlist of players they are looking at consists of Liam Delap, Jonathan David, Hugo Ekitike and Benjamin Sesko. Rockies.., without class

When Osimhen is almost offering himself to them free and the coach is even saying I have a number 9 Jackson?


Kai
Osimhen should go to who wants and value him not just want he loves

"Herein lies the problem"

The vast majority of you here think he is the best striker in the world or close to it.

However, you have a duplicity of top European clubs who have essentially, "Put your money where your mouth is" and don't agree.

Because none of these top clubs are offering him what he wants or killing themselves to get him. That in itself says something about how they presumably see him and or rate him. This view is held by the majority of top clubs apart from us here, the fans .

A number of you may wish to call me biased and filled with hate , because I don't join you in this sentiment based favouritism for VO. I'm saying things as they are no sentiment or preference.

nairalandankrah:
The Arabs offered a salary of 30 million last year.
My biggest fear is that no one from Europe will give 75 million and a net salary of 15 million due to the African bias., Kai Havertz, Gabriel Jesus etc. earn this money, but Arsenal goes to the CL semi-finals without a center forward

. What kind of arrogance is this, what else should the guy do to prove himself?

First of all I'm almost certain that Arsenal are regretting over paying for these two players ,they haven't lived up to expectations.

Once bitten twice shy.

I don't think there is anything like African bias consistent continued top level performance gets you highest pay.

M. Salah is on £400k plus a week ,he has for 8 season been a top scorer for Liverpool and in the premier league. He is African in case you forgot.

By comparison you cannot compare Salah to VO player who has won golden boot three times in the Premier league and has always been a top goal 🥅 scorer in the premier league.

VO has only scored above twenty goals in a top league once in his entire career prior to that he has never scored more than 15 league goals in a season.

VO is proven but has not hit the numbers that established world class striker's have hit consistently like Mbappe, Haaland. I think 🤔 he needs to leave retirement league and start playing in a far better league to create that world class consistency.

SpatialKing:
As long as INEC doesn't join APC...

Your too late INEC joined Jagaban APC officially 4 years ago as well as the NA and the Judiciary.

Meti99:
The North should put it in records that it is the South oyel money that is used to by force look for oyil in the north o.
I don't want to hear tomorrow that they will say it is groundnuts money they used to by force discover oyil in their north o

South South oil 🛢️ money 💰 let's be specific.

helinues:
Good

The opposition campaign would be to undo all the projects initiated by president Tinubu.

What legitimate projects has he done ✅ if you take away the massive amounts of propaganda that surrounds him.

A bit worrying 😕 VO name comes up in multiple transfer talks with top premiership clubs.

However, it's just talk for now , nonetheless, there is a lot of speculation about over inflated wage demands of £400k a week. If that's true he may find himself remaining in the retirement Turkish league or in the money 🤑 bags 💰 Saudi league.

Are those wage demands justified if actually true in my opinion NO.

jihday:
they should just buy him jare

Is he really returning to play in the EPL or to get a permanent seat💺 on the bench .

Brentford don't rate him and neither does FC Augsburg. He needs to find a permanent home 🏡 his ratings are diminishing it seems.

teeteepeejay:
Nice one from the people of Ojo local govt.

This abomination must not be allowed

The UK has a Nigeria woman leading the conservative party . Barak Obama a Kenyan was President of the USA .

DONT you think it's time to leave this Retrogressive backward , unproductive and demeaning mind set .

Sugarboyy:
He also conquered France. If not for the disruption of the league caused by COVID, Lille would have won the French league and he was also among the top scorers in the league that season

Would you say Mika Biereth former Arsenal U21 player conquered the French league as well as Ekambi, Moffi, Folarin, Emegha, M. Bayo, etc