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You should be comparing judas iscariot with mohammed

what year is this?

Christ commands all who profess to be christians to be perfect and he gave them the grace to do so. God also warns that he will not hold anyone guitless that takes his name in vain and cause his name to be blaspheme among unbeleivers.
paul also admonish all believers to move onto perfection.
The goal of christianity is to regenarate sinful rebelious heart into a pure heart without which no man shall see God.
So if the pastor of a congregation will not watch his deeds and lay down good examples knowing fully well that he either influnce his congregation in a positive or negative way, then that pastor is clueless.

What is wrong in naming nanes of false prohets? Didn't paul the apostle named names inthe scripture? Dodn't Elijah ordered the execution of prophets of baal? Where they acting under the authority of man or God?
There is nothing wrong with waelth and money in itself but the love of wealth and money is not from God but devil. Where is the place of contemptment in the teaching of oyedepo?
if you see a brother treading the path where there is a pit or a snare and you do not sound a warning alarm to him then you are no soul winner but the opposite
Its always about more money and more private jet and
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But jokes apart, while would snyone gamble his precious soul in support of a mortsl man?
It got to a point i could no longer stand the teachings of the outlines of the cell fellowship. I was a cell leader there but how can i teach people error knowning well its not the gospel of christ?
What about our saturday envangelism? Those hand bills we share read something like 'Jesus gives money here'
Nonsense!

@searching for love, you said he should forget what christ says? and you said yiu searching for love? love can only be found by following the teachings of christ not the false teaching of your pastor.
Follow peace with all men and holiness without which no man shall see Christ. If your aim of going to church is not to be like christ, Then you are wasting your time going there.

oh my! oh my!
Even if the video proof wasn't provided here, i will still believe every accusations levelled against this so called man of God.
I attended living faith church for at least two years and with what experience attending the church, its only followers of pastors rather than followers of christ that will still be attending that church.
I was a cell leader at living faith during my time there and camparing the teachings of oyedepo to the teachings of christ, i can tell you they are a complete opposite.
The crave for materialism of this man so much that they glory in their church building and accumulation of wealth.
I callenge any active member of living faith here to produce a message series on sanctification which without, no man can get an inheritance among the saints preached in living faith withing the period of 2014. Then we all understand what we are talking about.

Well,.. i attended living faith church for about two years and i left because of the dubious teachings there. People said their messages are centered on faith but can you all define for me here what faith truly is?
Every servant of christ is suppose to prepare the congregation to be ready for christ coming which is bringing lost souls into the kingdom and edifying them through sanctification of the spirit to the full measure of the stature of christ and anything apart from this major task is damning.
Not preaching more money, longevity, catching witches and so on.

Your prophet mohammed didn't come to preach the true God. What mohammed brought in islam is nothing but Babel(Babylon)=which is attempt by man to catch up with the glory of the true God Jehovah by self righteouesness and self effort and the best attempt the religion of islam can achieve is called 666 which means imperfection and spiritual and everlasting death. The prophet moses was the first to warn against all religiin of works and attempts by man to come to God by justification by works. All religions that is centered on works and self righteousness is not from God but from satan and anyone who died in such religion will be damned FOREVER because they have died worshiping the beast babel!

The biggest fools that ever exit are the ones who believed that there is no God. They think they came into being by evoluting fom tadpoles and algae. What stupidity. Even Satan himself believes that there is God and trembles.
The whole creation is enough for any wise to discern that without a creator, there can't never be a creation and only an educated fool will think because God can't be seen then he doesn't exist. Because i can't see electricity doesn't mean that its not real. The things that are powered by electricity tells us that elextricity is real though no one can see electrity with his physical eyes.

Ofcos curse and bewitching is real, wether you believe it or not. The only immunity to these things is to abide under the shadow of the almighty.
The bible says in the book of numbers 23:23. There is no divination against jacob nor enchantement against israel. Meaning that those that are in convenant with God through Jesus chriat can not be enchanted by witches neither can they be cursed by anyone but if you are without christ? You are just one of numerous captive of the devil under the curse of the law waiting to be roasted by thd devil

Ofcos curse and bewitching is real, wether you believe itvor not. The only immunity to these things is to abide under the shadow of the almighty.
The bible says in the book of numbers 23:23. There is no divination against jacob nor enchantement against israel. Meanin that thoes that are in convenant with God through Jesus chriat can not be enchanted by witches neither can they be cursed by anyone but if you are without christ? You are just one of numerous captive of the devil under the curse of the law waiting to be roasted by thd devil

nonsense!

allah is the name is a pagan god worshiped by arabs before mohammed ever came to being. allah is one of their many gods before mohammed ran into a cave, took the bible read it and turn it upside down producing the devlish quaran. Mohamned lied that it was angel gabriel that gave him tge message if the quaran but we all know that angel gabriel is not a confused angel.
Angel gabriel can't deliver the gospel of christ throughout the bible and suddenly became confused to deliver a contrary message in the quaran. You guys google it. You will find out that allah is a name of a pagan god worshiped by the old arabs long before mohammed was ever born.
Islam is just a book given by the spirit of antichrist. its aim is to make people believe they can get to heaven by human effort. Infact islam is babel and many will be damned by believing in it.

If the story of David and goliath can be prooven right by archaeologist then the whole story of the bible is true with no single contracdictions. Now because what you believe in dalwin theory of evolution and that you evoluted from a tadpole and your reasoning is just like one that does, so how does that affect me?

You muslims in the house, i have a question for you. how was one false witness that ran into a cave carrying the bible read it and start turning it upside down and use it to produce a devilish version called the quaran and he told you all that angel gabriel gave him the message of the quaran and he came by telling you that the god painted to you in the quaran is the same God of the old testament in the bible? The god called allah this false witness painted to you in the quaran had nothing in common with the God of the old testament? And you guy believed him.
The bible says if any man or angel come preaching any other gospel other than the one we have preached, let either that man or that angel be accursed!
But am sure the real angel gabriel will distance himself from mohammed.
one man gave a message contrary to what over 40 other witness that lived accross 2500 years and those 40 has consistent message saying the samething.
They all preached Jesus Christ and nothing else beginning with moses genesis to john's revelation. You guys are so gaulible. The witness of one man is not true.
Muslims and quaran are so desperate to associate themselves with the God the bible and christians are rejecting every attempt made by them because the real contracdiction we should be tackling here is the nature of allah contracdicting the nature of the God of the bible.

Haha! its rather surprising that non of you are able to clear the errors and contradiction in the quaran i listed above.
You clear it first abd i will responds to the scriptures you listed above. I still have lits of them here with me.
As for you guys here that said the bible is a book full of fables, am sure you guys can't context the discovery made by that archeologist professor Garfinkel and Dr martin. If you all can proof what they discovered is not the the remains of Goliath's head, then i won't respond to you. In a nut shell. A fool has said in his heart that there is no God.

About this.
quaran 22:47. A day in the sight of the lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning.

quaran 70:4.
The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years.

You guys clarify this first then we can move on.

About this.
quaran 22:47. A day in the sight of the lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning.

quaran 70:4.
The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years.

Muslims in the house, can you tell us how many days it actually took Allah to create heaven and earth.
quaran 7:54 your guardian lord is Allah who created the heavens and the earth in six days.

quaran 41:9. is it that deny him who created the earth in two days

quaran 4:10. he sets on the mountain standing firm hih above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion in four days.

quaran 41:12. And he completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command.

@Rilwane001, you read wrongly. Mat 10:9-10.
9: Get you no gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses;
10: no wallet for your journey, now watch this (neither two(2) coats nor shoes, nor staff.
proper english interpretation
neither take two coats, nor two shoes nor two staff.
The neither here tells us that Jesus was telling the twelve not to carry more than one coats and more than one shoes and more than one staff.. You see that the problem is you, not our bi?ble.

Mr, What is contradictory in a son also serving a father? I showed yiu a portion of the bible where an elderly son coming to lament before his father saying how much he has served him so is someone that served not a servant? So if a son served his father, can't he be called a servant or a son?
If i have a son who also happens to be my spokeman, can't that son be addressed as either a son or my spokeman?
Jesus christ said i didn't come to do my will but the will of him that sent me so he came into the world to serve his father so the title of son and servant can be used in his relationship to his father interchageably. So where is the contradiction here?
Are there no sons of the devil? What do sons of the devil do? serve the devil.
There are no middle ground. Its either you are a son of God or you are a son of the devil. I don't know which side of the divide you fall. As for me i am a son of God.

Well, it just confirmed that sonship to God is allien to your religion. You see why christianity is a must. it grants you adoption into the family of God. It conforms you to the holy nature of God. This is the will of the God of Abraham, isaac, and jacob. Christianity makes sinners partake of the divine nature of God. All these is absent in your religion. Or isn't it? lol!

That you are a son, does it means that you can't server your father? hmn.
luke 15:29 answers your question.
Anyway, serving is an allien thing to Nigerians. That is why son of the soils assume office without serving their father land.

@johnydon22, If our gospel be hid, it its hid to them that are lost whom the god of this workd has blinded their eyes lest the light of the gospel should shime into their eyes and they be saved.
I can see yiur eyes has been blinded.
I will ask you a simple question. Do you believe evil and darkness exist? Do you believe at the entetance of light, darkness gives way?
In your own sense do you believe that darkness and evil is bad? well i believe even the most ignorant person in this world believe so.
The message if the bible is simple.
God created man in his image and his likeness to be holy(light) like him and man lost that nature in Adam in the garden of eden. God sent his own son into the world to restore man back to that nature by his son offering himself to die for their sins on the cross thereby detroying the work of the devil.
This is the mesage taught from genesis to revelation and it takes a spiritually alive soul to see it, not a dead soul.

Further more, you muslims said the bible is currupt and there are so many contracdictions in it. Thats a devlish lie. You know why you guys decided to use that as a defence to the Quaran? Because you muslims tried so hard to make people believe you worship the same God that the Abraham, moses, isaac, jacob and so on worshiped in the old testament but every attempt muslims made to make people believe this falsehood has been rubbished by clear passages of the old testament scriptures so because of this, they quickly came out to say the bible has been currupted. That is total nonsense.
The Quaran from inception is Anti old testament message book. It denies the very teachings of the old testament.
The God revealed to us by the prophet moses is very contrary to the god revealed to us by prophet mohammed.
The character of God revealed to us by the prophets of old testament is the opposite of the one revealed by the quaran.
Moses told us that God the son in human form appeared to him in the burning bush and he moses whom the quaran respects so much as a true prophet identified Jesus chris as God the son who appeard to him in the burning bush but the message of the quaran denies this.
Moses was the first prophet that taught trinity and mohammed denied this. Infact the old testament taught us that by one man Adam meaning man, sin death came into the world and by the last Adam, life and righteousness came back to life but the quaran denies it by just one witness called mohammed.
Moses message was that without the sheding of blood, your sins can not be forgiven but quaran said his own god doesn't require that. The old testament taught us hat God almighty wants us to have his own divine nature which he created us with in the garden of eden but this message is allien to the quaran. The old testament taught us that God's chief will for man is that they carry his own very image and he himselfs sanctifies us so that by the time we live this word, we will be pure without any nature of sin but the quaran , all it taught was religion.
I think you muslims should be more concern by the sharp contrast in the message if both the bible and the quaran because both preached message that are opposing to each other.
As for contradictions, tell me any in the bible and i will respond to you but are you sure you can responds to tons of contracdiction in the quaran? i have loads of them including the ones boko haram are holding onto to commiting all its jihad attrocities. i will repond to any you trow at me and you responds to the ones i trow at you. Quaran is anti christ!

@Delafruita, can you please specify exactly what chapter and what verse of mathew you found the account that Our Lord jesus was born on 6BC and the chapter verse that luke said Our Lord Jesus was born on 6AC.
You said again that again that mathew said tbe parents of Jesus fled to egpyt when herod wanted to kill him but luke said gave a different account but never said he didn't flee to egypt. Well, its simple.
If i have four eye witness to an incidence and all four were called to come and give account of what they saw, its very possible that the four of them will not pick every details of the incidence. There are details one will see as relecant while others might see the same details as irrelevant but what is most important is that the core of the accounts of all four is saying the same thing.
Let me ask you a simple question, An incidence happened and 20 eye witness are giving the same account and one came and gave a witness contrary to all 20 other witness. Who will you believe?
You see this is the problem of islam. over 30 prophets that lived between the period of over 2000 years got message from God and all are saying the same message which is this Man has fallen short of the glory God. He has nope hope of saving himself but he is lost. God the father promise to save man by sending his son into the world to deliver man kind from this hopelesness by dying in their place and bring many people to that glory. From genesis 1:1 to the last book of revelation keeps repeating the same thing.
But one so called prophet just came from no where and said God said he is no longer using the same method of salvation anymore and tells you that the same God has denounced the message of all 30 witness, and you guys believed just one man. wao! That is terrible and folly!
You see, you can never seperate the message Moses, joshua, samuel, jeremaiah and all the other prophets of the bible from one another because they all said the same thing. verse to verse, chapter to chapter.
The testimony of three or more witness is true but the testimony of just one man? run for your soul

Yea, i know one pastor that is very far from that list.
1. His concern is that all his members are saved and sanctified by the word if truth and he also encourages his members to move unto perfection. unfortunately many people don't like to worship there because they hate to hear sound doctrine. His name is pastor w.f kumuyi of deeperlife church!

It has never been said like this before and the two reasons why millions are deceived in Africa especially Nigeria is because people love lies rather than the truth and many professed Christians don't read their bible.
In Nigeria where I come from, this problem is even worse compared to any part of Africa or probably because I have not worshiped in any congregation outside Nigeria. Only a few churches in Nigeria centered their teachings on getting its members to the promise land(image of Christ) through sanctification by the word and spirit.
I have experienced this deceitful pastors many churches in Nigeria and church I know them by their preaching.
Let me share one that happed to me when I first come to believe the gospel because I got converted by listening to a foreign preacher repeatedly over the internet on sermonadio.com. Then I decided to look for a local church which I can worship with in order to grow then I picked a particular one that has one of the largest auditorium in the country.
At first I didn't suspect his false teachings
but because I never lost touch with sermon audio preachers, I begin to notice something was wrong with his teachings. I noticed his teaching were more focused on prosperity, healing, longevity, catching witches etc. I noticed that this messages were repeated year in year out. Intact I can tell you that I have never heard a message on sanctification from this church. After I left this church after two years with them, the ones I attended after then mostly from invitations, their messages were I feel good messages.
The word of God says is my word not like hammer. When you listen to sound doctrine, it humbles you. False teachings gives you assurance that there is nothing to worry about and many here are deceived by them.