₦airaland Forum

Hi guys good morning for like 2days I didn't drive so I booked like a regular passenger my experience with Uber was better but on indrive now I see why a lot of passengers complained total ride booked was 8, 6 from indrive and 1 from Uber and just a single person as AC from the indrive the remaining 5 no get ac the only one Uber man I used as AC clean car all good didn't request for tip or complain about road or distance pick up and dropped off smoothly, the 6 indrive and they pick up prices a very good rate still ones they get to me they start acting up like pick is far, one did a crazy thing to me when he got to pick up I explained to him I won't follow you because it can't contain us but I will find my way with bike to drop off but he should follow the map because people in his car doesn't know the location, before he started going he didn't start trip he claims he knows the place but I need to track him or the map he claims no network so many excuses he stressed me I still gave him extra money I just dey look am he looked dirty like a pig, now this negotiation on indrive pays drivers but so many drivers on indrive a just irresponsible I swear all of them her greedy after we get to location them complain still beg for money it is annoying plus bad cars plus if you guys are doing this just stop it irritating dirty jean and top omo una dey spoil job claiming economy bad

Use 1.5L engine about ladies if I see beautiful woman wey show me sign or interest am in is only Africans that knows about spiritual problems here and dere with everything self we still dey backward

Nelochukwu:
Bro pls why u dey preach 2.5L engine for this day n age . Well if it works for you that's fine but really no be wetin person go dey talk becos using 10m to buy 2.5L car in this day n age is funny.

Also like d other poster I don't agree with said. Pls stop straffing another mans wife.

Hmm see your enemy see early grave oooo

Peace n light

Na speed you dey look for or money if you will be going for 2.4L engine just make sure your car is 2010 upward so you go dey enjoy comfort plans rather than economy plans, never the less 1.5L is better but if your engine and car is good condition it won't consume fuel because some cars engine size na 1.5L but them dey chop fuel pass 2.5l the secret is the condition of you car determines with it will consume

Classickj:
Bro out of this engine which is the best for uber 🫣🫣

Yes camry get level pass yaris I won't accept Corolla for this business buy what is affordable not a car that as been driven buy plenty users with different history. You people should check history Corolla and Camry I popular because the models done dey since Toyota crown dey, Prius dey so many they a better than Camry and Corolla few years back every one like Rav 4 now people done accept Highlander Nigeria remain like this because they are afraid to try new things when automatic cars came out then NIGERIAN will say na person we no sabi drive dey use automatic where as now everyone drives auto well because na automatic full market where as most high ends cars sport cars 2025 are still on manual transmission

Eazilyfe:
But Corolla & Camry standard pass Yaris sha.

I drive 1.5L engine capacity, I have never done 10trips a dey before because I patiently for an average distance not long and not short with a good price no unnecessary spending especially on women or alcohol even if a rider tip me 50k to me it is interest not awoof money for me to spend anyhow like today is amount 12noon if I set out today I might not do more than 3ride I will patiently look for good prices buy 15k fuel which is around 11litres dome of you wey dey do CNG una no know say your car dey depreciate in value, while some of you using Camry because carmy is big car is bigger than Corolla, my question is that big car making your pocket big

capetownboyz:
500k even with this current rate of fuel prices , mehn you take this hustle serious and religiously..have barely saved anything sef ..I’m newbie sha ,3 month in this job but so far mehn ..it like I’m forcing myself to be out there .

In this business dress well to avoid insults from riders and police officials when ever I get stopped like this na only tip police go ask or my driver license aside that nothing more in this business I started late last year I done nack 2woman and the 2 of them they are my top off line client especially when dere husband no dey around, in all just look good nice perfume clean car no be to dey drive Camry we inside go be like danfo lagos yellow bus most of una go dey buy Camry and Corolla Nigeria use within 4-6million spend like 500k to fix then few months later una go fix another thing, waiting go make person we see your car to like it is when it looking clean and decent plus the driver I dress like say I be office manager so many riders ask if I am sure I am the driver, I do this business to make money and for fun.

The car arrived September last year I spent less than 7m for for everything will a mileage less than 150,000 I never spend reach 400k on it ever since it arrived and I have made almost 3million with it by December I go make the money complete, I said it earlier someone should get cars of 11m to 15m una shout I believe the person will make the money in less than 2years with discipline. This business we all make money but we lack discipline, just look for a good mileage car buy drive for 2 to 3years sell of buy another one

Am always outside early driving on the road I mean my engine runs only for 4 hours most of the time I wait patiently for good rides sometimes waiting time 30mins self and each ride pickup and driving destination no dey pass 40min to 50min and get paid nothing less than 15k on each trip.


Toyota yaris 2008

Dabadwela:
For 4 hours driving and net income of 38k,not bad at all

Nice one

Which car do you use

My monthly trips is 100trip any addition is from offline I only pick trip minimum 550naira/km only if I done see a trip of over 600naira/km in a month I buy fuel within 400k to 500k, my feeding is around 200k I save nothing less than 500k monthly I don't smoke I don't drive I don't have a wife or girlfriend, I stop drinking and all since December to see how far I can save, presently I have around 1.4million in my account interest made this year serviced my car already this year changed 2 tires this year and some some things done already, I am practicalizing till October to see what I can achieve, last week I just did a thrift shopping and some native wears plus nice slippers 2pcs and a sneakers, if I wan nack once in a while I follow girl reason my budget no dey pass 10k, and I do support family members and friends with what I can afford

But 25k fuel made around 70k then after commission and feeding also minus fuel money my taking interest was 38k

capetownboyz:
you mean you spent 25k on fuel to earn 13k ? 38k !

This period Waiting time must go up to see a good price rather picking every trip and damaging cars and all that is the strategy I am only outside to make profit not to lose, soon I will go out na the weather not too clear for here I don't drive during rain my car is my joy I take good care of it

Latonal1:
Yesterday I had only 6trips with 25k few after everything like fuel commission feeding I take 38k go house and I spent around 4hrs driving saved some fuel and also car stress and energy

Yesterday I had only 6trips with 25k few after everything like fuel commission feeding I take 38k go house and I spent around 4hrs driving saved some fuel and also car stress and energy

Dabadwela:
Baba na example I dey give, say these apps nor mean well for drivers

If it is not 600naira/km or more and the pick it up must not be more than 5 min

Why you go accept 110per km na una dey spoil business

Dabadwela:
As in en

Shey na the 110 naira per KM trip go recoup the investment abi na the bad roads wey go spoil the car or the mechanics waiting to dissect the motor

As I said the person will only be on premium packages not regular packages, and he will meet good people, all this Camry muscle tokunbo na how much around 10m with high mileage, all I will just say here is driving an almost new car ehn, the feelings alone within one year you will make over 60% of the car cost if you know what you are doing no be to dey carry woman up and down or olosho, for good cars only thing you need to do is service change brake pad, shock, tires that is all for few years before have issues no be all this cars wey una dey buy repair parts and all una go buy tokunbo engine e no go last when una no know whether the engine self done go

My oga buy one Nissan rogue 2017 2.5l engine you will see a low mileage below 100k na good economic suv only few Nigerians know am if you are buying direct tokunbo buying shipping clearing everything budget 11m to 15m then place it on Uber comfort I swear ehn you go get plenty toaster you go collect plenty tips rather than buying Corolla and Camry wey done cast

cyif2003:
No hear hyandia products. Maintenance ho humble u. D engine fit just park up just like dat

Even though you are using CNG you are not supposed to accept that kind of amount shey you dey craze ni, na why I like danfo drivers and keke napep people dere price is dere price no going back

Eazilyfe:
You go reach there and na loads with 3 people dey go. She wan Courier human being

Send website or app I need loan thanks

elmisti:
I do. Rate is 3.5% flat monthly,

Hello sir, if you need an accurate answer pick up that same car register and drive it for 12 to 14hrs then with that you will know the average amount in someone will make, if you buy car for person and you don't trust them just collect your car back it is simple everyone strategy of driving is different that is it

rapheal5:
I really missed the days of them felicity, giveranonymous, izzou and the rest I can’t remember. simple prediction that active drivers will give in few seconds y’all just giving excuses, do you think all drivers have the time to read and ask questions online. Simple question “ how much is the average earning of a driver who drives 12 to 14hrs with big daddy 4 plug engine should be”. Just an idea is what is needed. Not bring him here bring him here. He’s not good in typing lengthy words and you can’t send Vn on NL.

Na you refuse to collect car from your brother from Europe

easytig:
If it is above 1.8 liter engine and you plan using fuel abort mission ooo,if you can fix Cng then no problem

Ladies and Gentlemen please follow this platform on Instagram it talks about e hailing business @passengeranddriverdynamics. Thank you

We no remember you but congratulations on your wins

hardiodun:
Hello pilots, trust our day went well.
So I'm the lady who came on here last year September 2025 and mentioned that I was looking to buy 2 Nigerian used cars with a budget of 6 million. I got so many advice, yabs etc lol..

I actually got offers for some naija used cars but upon testing them with the help of a professional, turned out they had major issues so I didn't get any of them. I however decided to buy brand new kekes and gave them out on hire purchase, however, here's what I did differently.

Firstly I went to Keke parks,some even very far from where I stay and made enquiries on how hire purchase works from riders. They thought I was a potential rider on the lookout for who'd be willing to give me Keke on hire purchase. This made them relax and they gave me all the info I needed. Cost of current hire purchase value for keke, weekly remittance amount etc.
Next I located the chairman of the park and told them my intention of buying keke and the need for riders in the park, now there was a clause, I'd be involving my lawyer and there'd be an agreement. Most of the chairmen agreed, however the value for the duration of the hire purchase didn't tally with the information I had gotten from riders themselves, the chairman were offering something lower but made it seem like that was the standard. I immediately disengaged those ones. Some asked me what amount I had in mind, and how I want my weekly remittance to be like, I told them , but upon hearing a lawyer will be involved, they started dragging feet and delaying providing riders in their park, I also immediately disengaged.

I got another park whose chairman agreed with my payment terms and also an agreement at a lawyer's.

Note that in the course of looking for parks, approaching park chairman, I had gotten the two kekes from the company and installed trackers right there in the company before even driving it out. I engaged a car tracking company for this service.

So with my kekes ready and having gotten a park chairman who had riders on ground, I dragged all of them to the lawyer's chambers, 7 people in total. park chairman, 2 riders, each rider provided two guarantors each. At the lawyer's, everyone provided their NIN, passport photographs and signed the already prepared agreement documents. Addresses were verified. Lawyer gave warning and orientation on why there should be no stories regarding payment. Default for 2 weeks consecutively, then say goodbye to the keke, even if you have one week payment left, your money otilo. (My lawyer no be charge and bail ooo, very solid man 😁). Handover day was scheduled. On handover day, each rider stood beside the keke and we took pictures.

Long and short, it's been 5 months of bliss (Oct 2025 to March 2026) . Payment is supposed to be 10a.m on the scheduled day of the week as per agreement, but 6a.m, chairman don credit me 😁. I monitor their activities from time to time on my phone via the tracker's app.

I waited this long to see the pattern before coming to give this update. Thank you everyone who gave advice at the time, even the guy who yabbed me and told me to put my money in fixed deposit, I'm grateful. @glithronix @omoapena @eyo and few others I can't remember their names, I'm grateful. (Please pardon my long epistle).

Transportation business is big and huge look at the local NURTW which is full of local mindset people they making a lot of money from the chairman to agbero on the road to danfo drivers and conductor. Do you have any friends that drive danfo and see him chilling with is side girlfriend after successful day cashout have you met any agbero chilling in a local bar after a successful day cashout, Guys the money we ought to make extra na Uber, bolt and indrive dey make am they do ads use celebrities one time indrive use a whole DON JAZZY and some other celebrities, they wrap a Rolls Royce which money are they using is it not our commission, the tax indrive are paying is it not our money. If we don't drive they will lose them driver will keep there cars safe and do something else. If person buy sienna stop at ikorodu garage carry passengers from ikorodu to ojota from ojota to yaba pay agbero owo load do that just 3 times in a day morning rush hour and evening closing hour to and fro do you know how much someone will make in a very few hours drive then park your car at home rather going into a street with bad road waiting to pick a percentage from point a to b. As any e hailing apps make us happy the only thing they do it set daily targets once we achieve that to earn more but all is a trap just for them to still make more money and satisfy dere users, is very easy to open and e hailing app with no proper verification but as a driver you have to provide so many documents. They done care about driver safety, Life style insurance no nothing. They is nothing bad in this present economy ehailing should partner with fuel stations give us 10000naira free petrol voucher this days to encourage drivers but they can pay big celebrities to advertise for them

Around 6years ago fuel was 200naira fuel is now 1400naira tell are we not oil producing country again, they removed subsidy the money they made by removing subsidy where did it go to is it coastal road, is electricity, now government are investing in solar is it cheap? Use cng use cng when they first introduced cng how much was it per kg few people installed they increase the price so don't you think if more people install it and they stay building more cng stations around tell me won't the price go up.... Nigerian government makes things difficult and gives options as trap to make more revenue na them get Cng, na them dey run solar also. Dangote claims we now have refinery big capacity for that matter tell me when he started dangote fuel was different from nnpc tell me which fuel are we now buying now who borrowed dangote money, then some filling station fuel wey cheaper than others but presently every price are the same strategy. We don't just have sense in Nigeria that is. We strike last week riders drive down to ikeja governor office for alausa Wetin concern Governor 😂, solution is not buy cng or petrol how about car part one of our drivers had accidents he as to call other drivers friends to support him to fix the car some people will say don't you have comprehensive insurance insurance company are low key scammers your third is it useful we only need a body if that guy verydarkman speaks on ehailing business in Nigeria immediately you will see changes that guy started as a nobody now he is a somebody solution might takes time but we will get dere somebody please we have solutions in our hands we have ideas platform are you guys ready just say YES

Guys if you know you can't do cng get a 1.5L engine type of car, CNG cylinders occupy significant trunk space, making them unsuitable for families or transporting large items,Converted vehicles often experience reduced engine power and sluggish acceleration, particularly when driving uphill or carrying heavy loads, my own is nobody prays to do e hailing or public transportation for long if I board korope bus if it as cng most drivers complain and even passenger does not have enough space to sit conveniently. You can never see a private car owner thinking to convert is car to cng because you need to work on rewiring and program one or two in his/her vehicle. So please we should try to use car below 2.0L engine if it is Manuel is affordable you spend around 7m to buy shipping and clear a good without working on the body with low mileage

Yes you are right if we at nairaland can dialogue to not work for like a week, the few riders on the road can serve users then it affects bolt indrive and others they will strategies and riders will end up having amazing offers and benefits from them

Pearl1910:
There are more drivers that don't belong to any group than all the drivers on nairaland and all d WhatsApp groups combined. So even if all d drivers in groups and niaraland comply to strike, there will still be driver on d road that arent aware.
The solution is for the few that can be ralied together to take this grievances to the app companies. Definitely not everybody can fight but let there be a fight even if it's from a few
Your offline trips can't come everyday

Cng is good and it is not free, if every car user start using Cng the price of cng will go up equivalent to petrol solution to this problem is bolt and Uber with Indrive to reduce dere commission and slightly in increase dere ride prices secondly the should be an option for AC if the client want AC they have to pay more ac is per of comfort ride outside the country they are options for AC tokunbo car begins from 8 million while a good Nigeria use car is from 4 million do you think is easy to raise 4 million in this present country, let create awareness and campaign my going on Twitter and Instagram to blast all this app at least people will understand what rider go through rather condemning riders I pay so so amount won't you on AC and people that does this thing are very brokr

tojahh:
The merits of CNG on this jobs can never be downplayed. I use a CNG installed Honda Accord 05, 2.4L and it's been 13 months and I can tell you for free (not free) that it's the best thing for me after drinking water.

I can't even remember when last I lament about price or what have you. Again, if you think protest will do the magic with these apps company I will tell you from experience protest has never helped drivers in this hustle. Since 2023 drivers has been calling for these protest but nothing to really show. I think the way forward is to take the agitations to these companies,. Ensure they don't operate while you protest, not the shambolic display of going to Alausa to dance and gyrate.

The story long but it as key points in it, all I will just say to this e hailing drivers as over 70% graduate in the platform we are well educated let us use our knowledge to counter this bolt and Uber if we don't work for like a week at least they will be fewer vehicles on the road it will affect the company when dey book rides and no car is coming we should stop acting hungry Uber take 25% fee for what exactly to pay staff or what is better Uber should get cars for riders buy fuel do car maintenance and pay the driver 25% of total trip is that not better let fight on the percentage also they needs us more than we need them we have options.

I will just advice use we should try to make cars in good condition and shape to have returning clients for offline job and good pay if like to client book me within a day at least I will safe my car from over work fuel and I make more profit in that, like yesterday a returning clients book me in the morning from ikorodu to ogba round trip and waited for an hour at the location in ogba then we got back to ikorodu around 1pm I charge 45k another client book from ikorodu to lekki 2hrs waiting time in lekki I charged 50k I made enough profit so I have to park my car today and tomorrow but if I see old clients offline trips I will go

OAKSFIVEFARMS:
Good afternoon everyone,

First, let me apologize — this is a long post, and maybe the English is a bit much in some parts. Please bear with me, I’m just trying to explain this as clearly as possible.

Most of you here don’t know me, and that’s fine. I’m also a driver on the platform like many of you. But beyond that, I’ve actually worked at Glovo, which operates in a very similar way to Bolt and Uber. So I’ve seen this from both sides — how these companies think internally, and what we experience daily on the road.

That’s exactly why I feel we need to approach this differently.

Also, to be transparent — I personally know some of the decision-makers at Bolt in Nigeria, and I can also get the right escalation contacts across Africa/SSA and even globally. So if we do this properly, it won’t just end as noise — it will actually get in front of the right people.

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## Let’s talk about the real issue — the economics

As of today, petrol is about ₦1,340 per litre.

On average, 1 litre of fuel generates roughly ₦2,400 – ₦2,600 in trip value.

Bolt takes around 25% commission.

So:

* ₦2,500 trip value
* Less ~₦625 commission
* Leaves ~₦1,875

From that ₦1,875:

* Remove ₦1,340 fuel cost

You’re left with roughly **₦535 per litre**

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## Now let’s break that ₦535 down properly

Even with conservative estimates:

* **Maintenance (daily allocation)** → ₦150 – ₦200
* **Depreciation** → ₦150 – ₦250
* **Tyres, servicing, major repairs** → ₦100 – ₦150
* **Risk (accidents, theft, safety exposure)** → ₦50 – ₦100

### Total cost:

≈ ₦450 – ₦700

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## Final reality:

You are left with ≈ ₦535

* **Best case:** you make ₦50–₦100
* **Worst case:** you are running at a loss

And this is before your personal income.

So let’s be clear:

**This is not sustainable.**

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## It’s not just a driver problem — Bolt also loses

I just got back from Abuja yesterday.

What I saw there is already showing the future:

* Many drivers don’t accept trips anymore
* Price negotiation is happening outside the app
* Some drivers have parked their cars completely

What does that mean?

* Longer wait times for passengers
* More cancellations
* Poorer experience overall

As drivers, we are partners in delivering this service. We also want passengers to enjoy a reliable experience.

But right now, pricing is **pitting drivers against passengers**, while Bolt still earns its 25% regardless.

That model will eventually break the system if nothing changes.

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## There is also a fairness issue

**Parties that carry no direct operational risk should not be earning more than those who:**

* Provide the cars
* Handle maintenance
* Face accidents and safety risks
* And in some cases, lose their lives

At the same time, we also have to be honest about something:

**The system is beginning to rely on the fact that drivers are under pressure to survive.**

Because people need to feed, many will keep driving even when the numbers don’t make sense. And over time, that allows an unsustainable model to continue longer than it should.

But eventually, it catches up — through poorer service, fewer drivers, and a broken experience for everyone.

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## This is why we need a different approach

This is not about protesting.
This is not about downing tools.

It’s about presenting a clear, structured business case.

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## What we are pushing for:

### 1. Dynamic Pricing (Primary Ask)

A pricing model that adjusts with fuel costs **and the full operating environment**.

When fuel increases, everything increases:

* Spare parts
* Labour
* Tyres
* Maintenance

Pricing must reflect **real operating costs**, not just fuel alone.

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### 2. Structured Driver Protection (Insurance & Maintenance)

We need something better than the current weak system of referrals to vague third parties.

We should explore:

* A structured driver fund (like ajo)
* Contributions from both drivers and Bolt
* Coverage for accidents, theft, and major repairs

This should be built into the platform — a real partnership model.

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### 3. Guaranteed Monthly Performance Incentives

Every driver should have access to a **guaranteed baseline monthly bonus tied to performance**:

* Meet clearly defined targets → earn the bonus
* Miss targets → bonus is removed for that period

This creates:

* Stability for drivers
* Better service consistency
* Stronger platform performance

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## What we are doing next

We are aiming to gather **at least 1,000 driver signatures** for a structured petition.

Since Nairaland doesn’t allow links, I will be creating a simple Excel sheet where drivers can input:

* Fuel cost
* Total trip value
* Commission
* Net outcome

Access will be shared via QR code.

From there:

* We compile real data
* Build a structured document
* Send it directly to leadership at Bolt and relevant stakeholders globally

Not as noise.
Not as threats.
But as a clear, data-backed case.

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If you’re interested, share your thoughts and be ready to contribute your numbers when the QR code is shared.

Let’s approach this differently this time — with structure, clarity, and numbers.

Thank you for reading.

Thanks

Cineinfo:
More than good.....

Is Toyota yaris 2007 good for uber

Will show them shege today