You can verify all what I'm saying Yes Jew must do it(trench) Bcs In their agreement or constitution Both of them "Muhammad and the Jews "agreed to defend the city(Medina) against any war, But jew committed treason Even if you commit treason in china or Russia or USA, na death oooooo
You can check the treaty below
How did they commit treason. It wasn't recorded in the Quran that the Jews committed treason.
By the way that's not treason. It's like NATO deciding not to defend a NATO Nation. You may call it betrayal but it isn't treason.
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The prophet (saw) was chased out of mecca to Medina by idol worshipers He was welcomed there (Medina) by Muslim with little population of Jews He made treaty with the Jews about the security of the city, but the Jew betrayed him
The killed Jews commited treachery,they betrayed the treaty and sided the Meccan against Muhammad (SAW) and Muslim
It simply means the killed Jews commited treason
Even today in USA treason is punishable by death
Treason I thougth is betraying your own country.
Treason is the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance.[1] This typically includes acts such as participating in a war against one's native country, attempting to overthrow its government, spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state.
I talking about the battle of the trenches.
Did the Jews who digged the trenches for Mohammed during the war betray Mohammed?
Vic2023: smile 😁😁😁😁😁😁 Olodo! Can any poison in this world cut aorta? It shows you that the Hadith is fabricated
What Mohamed (SAW) did to woman, that makes her to poisoned him and his followers? It shows that Jew hate Muslim
Their were numbers of Jews under Muhammad (SAW) rule, they were living peacefully with Muslim
So the hadith of Bukhari I'd fabricated I thought it's the most trust worthy.
Mohammed killed many Jews( that alone is a reason) before the woman poisoned him. Although I'm not sure it was said Mohammed killed her husband I check that and comfirm.
What of the 700 Jews who helped him that he killed.
Why then did he tell his followers in the Quran to kill Jews or did Mohammed not say so himself.
Vic2023: this is fallacy! Firstly, the prophet (saw) was not killed by Jewish woman,she just poisoned the meat that he "prophet(SAW)" ate and the he did not die until 4 yrs later, but all his followers that ate among the meat died instantly ,so do you want to proof to me that they ate different poison? Moreover this shows you that Jew hate Muslim from the time of the prophet (SAW) till now To your last paragraph! Are Palestinians not the descendants of 1: Canaanite 2: Hebrew 3: old jew
Below is the population of Jews living under Palestinians government before the emergency of Zionist, If Muslim hate Jews,it supposed to be no Jews living under the Palestinians rules
Firstly Mohammed himself said it that the meat he ate at kaybar cut his aorta
Vic2023: Go to Google and search for the DNA of today Palestinians, Jews and Canaanite You can now see who is more Canaanite among them ,even Lebanon , Jordan are more Canaanite than isreal , I'm talking with facts
I nor dey argue with you on that atlest you now agree that the Jews are Canaanites even though it may not be as much as their neighbors.
So because AI proved you wrong it's now bad to go to AI for information.
Besides I didn't go to AI for information I just did a simple google search to back up the information I already knew so that I can impact sense into your head.
Procashtips: I guess it was also the Greek that put Palestina in Exodus 15 vs 14.
So the Palestinians the children of Israel were fighting in Exodus 15 vs 14 is present day Togo or Germany?
The English people call people from Espana Spain, I guess Espana didn't exist until English people started calling them "Spain".
The way you people refuse to use your head sometimes can be baffling.
I have stopped wasting time arguing with Western slaves.
BTW: make up your caged mind, was it the Greek or the Romans?
Let me explain it to you like a child that you are
The Philistines who were the habitants of palestina are not the same as the people of Palestine now.
The Philistines are an extinct people killed of by the Babylonians and Assyrians.
The Greek called the people living in the five cities of the Philistines palestina. The romans renamed the whole of the land of Israel Palestine naming them after their enemies the Philistines.
It's like the British renaming Nigeria as Ghana .
Let's use this simple illustrations for your simple mind
The Greeks named a land Ghana and that land is neighbors with Nigeria later the British conquered Nigeria and renamed it Ghana .
By the way from the Bible the philitines that you're claiming are Palestinians had control of only five cities. So why are the Philistines aka Palestinians claiming all of Israel?
The philitines are not Palestinians I say it again.
For those saying the word "palestine" is a recent word, it has existed as early as ever.
There was no Israel as a country as at then, Israel was just a person's name (Jacob) as at Exodus 15 vs 14 and were referred to as the "children of Israel (The children of Jacob) but Palestine already existed as a country then.
Don't be foolish the romans name the land of Israel Palestine after the Philistines who lived in the country of palestina that's the name in Latin .
If there was no Israel as a country David was king of where?
Was Jesus a Jew or a Palestinian.
1 Samuel 13:19 (KJV) Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears:
Ezekiel 11:10 (KJV) Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you [b]in the border of Israel; [/b]and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Ezekiel 11:11 (KJV) This city shall not be your caldron, neither shall ye be the flesh in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel:
IMEI: With the way things keep escalating in the Middle East, a major war is shaping up
The war if it does happen, whether in this round or an upcoming round, will pitch muslims on one side and israel along with their lackeys on the other
The escalation is probably a good thing because muslims will finally wake up, band together and confront their enemies, but not before the end of puppet regimes ruling over them
Before any lowlife yarns dust to me, if you go through history of wars involving muslims, in most of them they were outgunned and outnumbered, but still became victorious in many
When i say muslims, i don't mean hypocritical national armies, i mean muslims driven by their faith
See what I have been talking about?
May Allah the god of war grant you all the zeal to figth.
May he give you a place in Valhalla when you'll all are ❌.
If this is true then this will be the way forward a coalition of peaceful middle eastern countries ruling GAZA. Oman and Bahrain and the UAE will be the best options
Bigsam99: All the peace Arafat went for, what did it achieve. Instead, Netanyahu propped up Hamas to undermine the more peacefum Fatah so that Israel can use the excuse to violence and division to continue oppressing Palestinians. Monsters like Netanyahu don't want peace, they want dominance.
Israel funded hamas. CIA founded Isis Barack Obama is the founder of Islam.
Netenyahu wasn't even a prime minister when Hamas was formed.
It was Israel that told Hamas to include the destruction of Israel in their charter. You know to make it authentic.
shoodboi2: 1. Arafat never got his state. He was tricked, deceived and used by US and Israel. He was even most likely murdered by Israel.
2. Hamas doesn't make decisions for Palestinians. The Palestinian Authority does. And the US and Israel makes decisions for the Palestinian Authority.
Hamas controls Gaza. The Palestinian Authority controls the West Bank. And the US and Israel control the Palestinian Authority.
If you claim Israel is attacking Gaza because of Hamas, why then is Israel attacking the West Bank? Is it also because of Hamas?
Israel frequently bombs the West Bank, kills children, and steals Palestinian land. Israel also sends Israelis to grab homes from Palestinians in the West Bank and live there.
What does the Palestinian Authority do? Nothing!
Meanwhile, the same Israel won't dare such in Gaza.
Israel used to do it, but when Hamas dealt with it repeatedly, and killed Israeli soldiers occupying Gaza, no one told Israel to leave before it left.
Why do you guys love to lie eh
In 2000, after Yasser Arafat rejected the offer made to him by Ehud Barak based on a two-state solution and declined to negotiate for an alternative plan,[18] it became clear that Arafat would not make a deal with Israel unless it included the full Palestinian right of return, which would demographically destroy[19] the Jewish character of the State of Israel.[20][21] He literally said no to two state solution.
Hamas makes decisions for Palestinians in Gaza true or false.
Because the Palestinian authority are peaceful now they are controlled by the USA And Israel.
When did israel attack the west bank? When was the last time israel had a major escalation with the West bank? Which west Bank city did israel drop a bomb why does the West bank not look like GAZA?
Like I said the west bank belongs to Israel Jews can live any where in it the Jews do not leave in Palestinians homes they build settlements what are you even saying?
Israeli soldiers and civilians left GAZA when the Palestinian authority was in power because of negotiations with Arafat not because of Hamas.
Watcharena: I gat you but it still did not change or go against what I said. There can't be peace in Israel without a Palestinian state
There will only be peace when the Palestinians become like Arafat. They'll get their State if they're wise like Arafat. And they'll keep their state if entities like Hamas doesn't make decisions for them.
Hamas is willing to burn Palestine and Palestinians if that will hurt the Jews believe me they'll do it again and again.
Watcharena: Israel can not have peace without a Palestinian state.
I doubt if they will still have peace with a Palestinian state. The Palestinians need to change their mode of operation and ideology. Forget the whole of Israel and Jerusalem,knowing the Jews they might let Jerusalem have a special status because of the Alqasa mosque so that Palestinian Muslims could visit.
Recently for the first time ever the Israeli Knesset passed a bill or resolution and the two state solution for the first time ever the over 90% were against the Palestinian state. The more Jews they kill the more their dream fades.
Bigsam99: Bros, IJewish settler terrorists settlers attack Palestinians everyday in the west bank, i hope you know this.The Jewish settlers who are violating a UN charter are better armed than the Palestinians who are under blockade. Everyday a new Palestinian family is kicked out of their home by some Jewish settler arriving from Europe or America.
I ask this, what gave the right for Jews to attack Palestinians but Palestinians cannot attack them back without being called terrorists?
Below is a categorical statement from the UN charter:
'Every State likewise has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate international lines of demarcation, such as armistice lines, established by or pursuant to an international agreement to which it is a party or which it is otherwise bound to respect.'
Israel was party to the agreement that demarcated the limits of the West Bank. Tell me, has Israel obeyed this demarcation?
First lie Jewish settlers attack Palestinians everyday.
What is the manner of the attack knife attack Ramming them with cars.
Before it's the IDF now it's settlers.
Jews own the West bank it was captured by the Jews from Jordan it was annexed thats how east Jerusalem the temple mount Alqasa mosque are all in Jewish hands.
The more terrorist attacks the Palestinians commit the more their dream of having their own country fades.
The only time Jewish Palestinian people made progress on this issue was during the time of Arafat do you know why.
Because Arafat wasn't chanting from the river to the sea Arafat wasn't giving any one guns any time Arafat called for a meeting with Israeli leaders they always listen to what he had to say Arafat gave GAZA it's autonomy( even dead Jews were evacuated out of gaza) that they foolishly threw away when they elected hamas( a group that in its Chater calls for the elimination of Jews) a civil war between Fatah and Hamas started which Hamas won. Israel took measures to defend it's self against hamas.
If every Palestinian was like Arafat the Palestinian state would have been side by side the state of Israel since 1948
freakyamanda: Israel has not allowed the Palestinian authority to rule in peace, literarily blockading them and not allowing them to have control over their citizens. They have surrounded them, impose tax on them and places several restrictions on the. Even the territorial waters of west bank are limited. Also, Israel continues to protect illegal Jewish settlers on palestinian lands, Jews who contradict UN ruling. But Fatah is peaceful, why didn't Israel give them freedom to rule their people in peace? Why is Fatah not allowed to have a police and arm itself to impose order in its territory? Why does Israel continue to take lands from West bank every day?
The Palestinian authorities have a police forces.
Recently the Palestinian president said Hamas was the reason the war in Gaza has not ended.
You forget that the Jews captured the west bank from Jordan. According to international law israel should return the west bank to Jordan. But Jordan doesn't want the west bank same as Egypt doesn't want GAZA.
The Palestinian authority have control over their citizens who are allowed to vote the only territorial waters in the west bank is the Jordan river and they have limited control over it because of the smugglings that happen there.
The PA is the ruling party in the west Bank not Fatah.
Because israel literally owns the west Bank. Same as Russian owns Crimea and the other territories it recently annexed from Ukraine.
nigeriansamurai: Oga the crusades was purely the result of religious extremisim. ask yourself why it had to be carried out by the church instead of kings. A thousand political reasons may be given but extremisim was the main reason for the crusades. The said expansions happened centuries before the crusades.
It was endorse by the church but the wars were carried out by Christian kings.
The expansion happened centuries before the Crusades. Yes but remember the expansion took over 300 years before it got to Spain. If not for the Crusades the Moslems would have conquered more christian lands.
Any this will the last point I make concerning this topic.
Let's not derail the thread. If you want to talk about the Crusades create a thread and tag me there I'll reply.