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TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 5:20pm On Jun 09, 2015
gj22:
Stannis is dutyful not ambitious alright.

What other action could he have taken?
He could have managed. Fished the lakes, which will be teeming with fish since its cold. They could have shown us Northern lords. There are lots of Castles he could have gone to ask for help, or he coulda tried to ask. They could have shown them suffering, not for him to just outright listen to Mel. He could have waited for Davos. It looked as if he sent Davos off, in a white elephant quest, and when Davos was gone burnt Shireen. He could have killed the horses and eaten them. As he burnt Shireen, food won't just come out of nowhere if it wasnt there in the first place. Davos was a smuggler for f*cks sake. Stannis just gave up.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 5:07pm On Jun 09, 2015
gj22:
Look at it from his point of view and you will understand. Not agree o but understand.
Aye, but its not reasonable nor can it be justified.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 5:04pm On Jun 09, 2015
If somehow this all works out for him, if somehow they prevail, and its cause they burnt Shireen, if somehow he still has an army, or he gets more men, then its just as bad writing as the Sand Snakes.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 4:58pm On Jun 09, 2015
He will never do it for the iron throne but for the realm. If he wanted to do it for the iron throne, he would have done it on DS and woken up the stone dragon. He didn't! He reiterated his resolve that his daughter was his heir and he had a duty to his daughter, that is she inherits throne from him.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 4:48pm On Jun 09, 2015
gj22:
When will you people realise that you have no right to say what is necessary and "uncalled for". You have no creative power over the show and those who do have decided it is necessary and called for.

Everyone has done something "out of character" every once in a while, even in movies. IT IS HUMAN NATURE.

he clearly values his duty over his daughter's life. Is there any point in the show that he showed otherwise? before this episode, we only knew he loved his daughter and valued his duty,we didnt know which came first. But now we know he values his duty more than he loved his daughter.
I know you like Stannis. And i think your trying to defend it. But its a weak attempt.
EducationRe: Covenant University 2015/2016 Session Aspirants Lets Meet Here by LeonStark: 3:55pm On Jun 09, 2015
SeunA:
they dont have past questions!! just understand your maths English and Go ernment kinda
Ithought it was over.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 3:46pm On Jun 09, 2015
Intention is a nice feature but it's not always known, and sometimes the outcome is much worse than whatever intention might have envisioned. I personally believe that if a person considers themselves to be ethical, then they should be ethical at all times. They shouldn't make any exceptions. It is very strange for someone who claims to have high moral standards and strict ethical rules to engage in what can be considered to be dubious behavior in order to achieve some greater good. They are more likely to look for other solutions to their problem that don't conflict with their personal values. That's the problem with what Stannis did.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 3:31pm On Jun 09, 2015
gj22:
Sword and spears are for fighting wars. when they are in formation, they do better. But are crap 1 on 1. When they formed a formation around Dany, they actually fought better. But the sons of Harpy are like an army too.
The SotH have no skill whatsoever over the unsullied. The unsullied are the best infantry in the world. And part of their training is to fight in formations. Not 1 on 1.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 3:24pm On Jun 09, 2015
gj22:
Lol. Is there any law against polygamy in Westeros? Am sure Stannis will find a way. He is a "wise" man and has obviously thought this through.
Polygamy can be defined as a marriage which includes more than two partners. In Westeros for the highborn and the lowborn marriage is chiefly between two people, a man and a woman. The Faith of the Seven does not permit polygamy. The Targs were allowed to practice it because they were foreigners, same as thier incestual relationships. You're sure he'll find a way, like he didnt do with Shireen ?
LiteratureRe: Questions, Theories, And Trivia Of The ASOIAF (Game Of Thrones) Books. by LeonStark: 2:45pm On Jun 09, 2015
kay9:
^^^
That's a spoiler!! angry angry
Well i didnt spoil. D& D did, as an attempt to justify what Stannis did. They made a video of it on YouTube, trying to shift the blame to the books.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 2:19pm On Jun 09, 2015
There is no justifying immoral behavior, no matter the motivation for it or the outcome of it. While that may be the only course of action he can necessarily take(which it was not) that does not mean it was justified.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 2:17pm On Jun 09, 2015
The ends/means dilemma is a popular scenario in ethics discussions. Usually, the question goes something like this: “If you could save the world by killing someone, would you do it?” If the answer is “yes,” then a morally right outcome justifies the use of immoral means to achieve it. But there are three different things to consider in such a situation: the morality of the action, the morality of the outcome, and the morality of the person performing the action. In this situation, the action (murder) is clearly immoral and so is the murderer. But saving the world is a good and moral outcome. Or is it? What kind of world is being saved if murderers are allowed to decide when and if murder is justified and then go free? Or does the murderer face punishment for his crime in the world that he has saved? And would the world that was saved be justified in taking the life of the one who had just saved them?And by the way Stannis is not ambitious.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 2:14pm On Jun 09, 2015
As for the ends justify the means. Most use it as an excuse to achieve their goals through any means necessary, no matter how immoral, illegal or unpleasant the means may be. What the expression usually means is something like “It doesn’t matter how you get what you want as long as you get it.” Some people believe it. Dont mean its right. Stannis himself said, "A good act does not wash out the bad , nor a bad act the good . Each should have its own reward." The “ends justifying the means” usually involves doing something wrong to achieve a positive end and justifying the wrongdoing by pointing to a good outcome.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 2:05pm On Jun 09, 2015
Nairalandinfo:
Off course why nothuh Klalessi is too weak for that throne. In life (thix present world/reality), men have sacrificed "anything" for their goalz/ambitionz/power...& what Stannis did is justified as far as 'm concerned
Its not. The reasons leading up to it is make no sense. You cant justify it.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 10:25am On Jun 09, 2015
UjSizzle:
I don't even know who paedophile is and why she's following him around. But I'm certain she'll kill him eventually.
The paedophile is Jorah.He's in love with Dany, but way older than her. Also Meryn Trant.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 10:23am On Jun 09, 2015
Ogatitus:
Bros u surprise me with your analysis of Stannis. The bolded says it all. Maybe you should tell me the crime the swt daughter committed.
Your words contadict themselves. Im saying it makes no sense for Stannis to do so, since he doesnt burn people who did nothing wrong. Its a bad potrayal of Stannis.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeonStark: 10:21am On Jun 09, 2015
themodernman:
We the Bravoosi do not serve the Lord of Lights.
Ofcourse you do. Braavos is the Land of Many Gods.
LiteratureRe: Questions, Theories, And Trivia Of The ASOIAF (Game Of Thrones) Books. by LeonStark: 9:30am On Jun 09, 2015
sage1000:
Edit: Just learnt the idea for the very stupid scene was given GRRM himself. This suggests something similar happening in the book, like maybe Mel and Selyse sacrificing Shireen to bring back Jon.
They said George told them Shireen will be burned. They didnt say how, and the event leading up to it. That's them cowering behind the books. They then had to make Stannis do it for shock value.When in the real case Stannis wouldn't do it. And if she burns Stannis wouldn't command it. They made a botch of Stannis.
LiteratureRe: Questions, Theories, And Trivia Of The ASOIAF (Game Of Thrones) Books. by LeonStark: 9:23am On Jun 09, 2015
sage1000:
Okay seriously I really hated this episode of GoT. What they did with Stannis was unbelievably dumb and out of character for the man. Yes he is resolved and stubborn but he would never in a million years sacrifice Shireen like that. He is a man of high morals are taking the nd in the books the people he actually allowed to be burnt are those who ran afoul of his laws personally. What they just did was to make him the most despicable character on the show, even the boltons and freys are better than him at this point, at least they didn't sacrifice family for ambition. it wasn't even a pragmatic decision as no one in westoros will support a King that burns his on daughter alive, it is too similar to Aerys for anyone to stomach it.

Really disappointed in the direction they are taking the show and outright livid with what they've done to StannisTheMannis.

Edit: Just learnt the idea for the very stupid scene was given GRRM himself. This suggests something similar happening in the book, like maybe Mel and Selyse sacrificing Shireen to bring back Jon.
Not you alone. 90% of book readers hated it.It was really disappointing for the reasons you mentioned.
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LiteratureRe: Questions, Theories, And Trivia Of The ASOIAF (Game Of Thrones) Books. by LeonStark: 7:48pm On Jun 07, 2015
LiteratureRe: Questions, Theories, And Trivia Of The ASOIAF (Game Of Thrones) Books. by LeonStark: 6:52pm On Jun 07, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Gendry the Bastard blacksmith ?
Yes, Gendry Waters.
LiteratureRe: Questions, Theories, And Trivia Of The ASOIAF (Game Of Thrones) Books. by LeonStark: 6:51pm On Jun 07, 2015
Get ready to be disappointed this night by episode 9. Some shit that a book character will never do is going to happen. And how have you found Dorne this season ?!
LiteratureRe: Questions, Theories, And Trivia Of The ASOIAF (Game Of Thrones) Books. by LeonStark:
oluamid:
LeonStark, that your poem is capable of making one's hair stand on end like Sam's when he saw the whitewalkers.


Here's a thing:

GENDRY is azor ahai who was not only a great warrior but also a Good Smith (created lightbringer) GENDRY was told by mellisandre he was strong because he has kings blood, has extreme strength and works in hot fire as a smith (born of salt and smoke) and is of Royalty, Let me know your thoughts?
Mel never meets Gendry. Its Edric Storm, and he's way younger than Gendry, but both are Robert's bastards. But Gendry never wields a known sword, nor did he forge Lightbringer. P.S i dont think Stannis is Azor Ahai...
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LiteratureRe: Questions, Theories, And Trivia Of The ASOIAF (Game Of Thrones) Books. by LeonStark: 1:31pm On Jun 07, 2015
When winter comes for war, You shall hear no Lions roar. When winter forces you to yield, No Stags shall gaze upon the field. When winter creeps upon you from the shadows, No Roses shall bloom from the meadows. When winter wreaks havoc on the land, You can bet there'll be no Snakes in the sand. When winter brings to life all it finds grim, The Krakens will freeze where they swim. When winter sets and the land begins to shiver, The Flayed Man will start to rot and wither. When winter fights to the last sliver, No more Trouts shall swim in the river. When winter ravages and all despair, No Falcons shall fly high in the air. When winter shows you what happens when snow falls, Not even Dragons Breath shall warm you in your halls. When winter comes with all it's might, Only the Wolves shall howl in the night! ~ by Martin Skjeggis.
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LiteratureRe: Questions, Theories, And Trivia Of The ASOIAF (Game Of Thrones) Books. by LeonStark: 1:29pm On Jun 07, 2015
moski5:
where was it sed he met mirri
Book 1.
Dany ignored the bloodrider’s outburst. This old, homely, thickbodied woman did not look like a maegi to her. “Where did you learn your healing, Mirri Maz Duur?” “My mother was godswife before me, and taught me all the songs and spells most pleasing to the Great Shepherd, and how to make the sacred smokes and ointments from leaf and root and berry. When I was younger and more fair, I went in caravan to Asshai by the Shadow, to learn from their mages. Ships from many lands come to Asshai, so I lingered long to study the healing ways of distant peoples. A moonsinger of the Jogos Nhai gifted me with her birthing songs, a woman of your own riding people taught me the magics of grass and corn and horse, and a maester from the Sunset Lands opened a body for me and showed me all the secrets that hide beneath the skin.” Ser Jorah Mormont spoke up. “A maester?” “Marwyn, he named himself,” the woman replied in the Common Tongue. “From the sea. Beyond the sea. The Seven Lands, he said. Sunset Lands. Where men are iron and dragons rule. He taught me this speech.”
EducationRe: Covenant University 2015/2016 Session Aspirants Lets Meet Here by LeonStark: 7:21pm On Jun 06, 2015
DangotePikin:
It will not be a bad idea if you ask someone you know in the registry to help direct favour to your direction. You might need a little bit of favour to get your desired 1st choice course.
Wow.
EducationRe: Covenant University 2015/2016 Session Aspirants Lets Meet Here by LeonStark: 1:44pm On Jun 06, 2015
chilez:
As long as your score is above 200 and with that score, you'd get Covenant. Hope your interview went well? Its a pleasure to help CU aspirants.. All the best man smiley
Do you know the fees ? For engineering specifically.

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