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I have been trying since yesterday to open a thread here to no avail on the recent stampede in Saudi Arabia which in reality was not a stampede but a massacre of pilgrims orchestrated by Saudi security forces on Iranian pilgrims who were protesting the Saudi Govt's killing of shiites in Yemen.

This may seem far fetched but, the facts are there.

The real casualty figures are about 1,417.

The stampede began in a tunnel entrance to the grand mosque where a procession of Iranian pilgrims where being shot at by Saudi security forces.

This is why the Saudi govt hurriedly buried the dead and purposely downplayed the figures.

The Iranian govt over the years has been sending pilgrims not to perform hajj but to stage political demonstrations against the Saudi monarchy.




Read this 1987 NY Times article on how Saudi security officials killed over 400 Iranian pilgrims but will later blame it on stampede.

The Saudi kingdom is the heart of satan's throne in the world.

[size=18pt]400 DIE AS IRANIAN MARCHERS BATTLE SAUDI POLICE IN MECCA; EMBASSIES SMASHED IN TEHERAN[/size]
By JOHN KIFNER, Special to the New York Times
Published: August 2, 1987


CAIRO, Sunday, Aug. 2— More than 400 Moslems died when clashes broke out Friday between Iranian Shiite Moslem pilgrims and Saudi riot policemen in Mecca, Islam's holiest site, Saudi Arabia announced Saturday.

After hearing reports of the deaths, Iranians rampaged in Teheran, attacking the Saudi and Kuwaiti Embassies there. Some reports said four Saudis had been abducted from the embassy.

Iranians were also reported to have stoned the French Embassy and to have torn down the French flag over the building's entrance, in an unrelated dispute with France.

In Mecca, the street battles beside the Grand Mosque came on the eve of the annual pilgrimage, or hajj, which marks the high point of the Islamic year. Support for Iraq

While Iran is controlled by radical Shiite Moslems, the rulers of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are conservative Sunni Moslems who support Iraq in its nearly seven-year-old war against Iran.

The clashes come at a time of growing tension over the gulf war, rising Islamic fundamentalism and United States efforts to escort Kuwaiti oil tankers through the Persian Gulf. The violence in Mecca raises the possibility of open conflict between Shiite Moslem forces and Sunni Moslem regimes.

The clashes began when Iranian pilgrims massed after Friday's midday prayers for a political demonstration, which is forbidden by the Saudi authorities. The pilgrims chanted ''Death to America! Death to the Soviet Union! Death to Israel!'' and brandished portraits of their leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. There are 155,000 Iranian pilgrims among the more than 2 million Moslems, mostly Sunnis, at the pilgrimage. Iranian and Saudi Statements

[size=18pt]Official Iranian statements said the Saudi riot police then opened fire on ''an innocent demonstration.''

The Saudi Information Minister, Ali Hassan al-Shaer, speaking after a special Cabinet meeting called by King Fahd, said the deaths were caused by trampling and insisted that ''not a single bullet was fired.''[/size]

Whatever caused the violence, fragmentary reports from the scene spoke of fighting going on for hours. Slippers, shoes, identity cards, scarves and even wheelchairs littered the streets after the clashes, according to reports from Iran's official Islamic Republic News Agency.

The Saudi television tonight broadcast a 15-minute videotape in which Iranians were shown throwing rocks at the police and then charging into them.

An official Saudi statement said 402 people were killed, including 275 Iranians, 85 Saudi citizens and security men, and 42 pilgrims of other nationalities. It appeared likely that Shiites from Lebanon and Pakistan may have joined the Iranians in the demonstration. The Saudi statement said 649 people were wounded.

The Iranian press agency reported that 200 Iranians had been killed and more than 2,000 wounded. It said the Saudi police opened fire on a ''peaceful march'' with automatic weapons and tear gas.

Earlier, the official Saudi press agency said only that ''some fell'' when police moved in on Shiite demonstrators who were burning cars and fighting with other pilgrims.

Saudi Arabia, whose royal family adheres to a puritan line of the majority Sunni branch of Islam, repeated Saturday that there was a total ban on ''demonstrations, rallies or any kind of marches.''

Like most leaders in the Arab world, the rulers of Saudi Arabia have supported Iraq in its war against Iran, which began in September 1980. '2 Glorious Demonstrations'

Teheran has sought to export its brand of Islamic militancy to other Arab nations.

Ayatollah Khomeini's personal representative in Mecca, Hojatolislam Mahdi Kharoubi, had called for ''two glorious demonstrations'' in the city to help spread Iran's militant doctrine.

The Ayatollah's designated successor, Ayatollah Hussein Ali Montazeri, declared that Moslem religious leaders should wrest control of Islam's holy sites in Saudi Arabia from the royal family.

But in Iraq, the ruling Revolutionary Command Council, ostensibly an organ of the secular Baath Arab socialist movement, declared that Iranians should be barred from Islam's holy sites. Fires Are Started

The Iranians who stormed the Saudi and Kuwaiti Embassies in Teheran smashed furniture and started fires. They threw pictures of King Fahd from the roof of the Saudi Embassy and smashed air-conditioners. At the Kuwaiti Embassy, the intruders set fire to documents.

Iranian officials declared that maps had been discovered showing that Kuwait had been spying on behalf of Iraq. No diplomats were in either embassy at the time of the attacks. [ In Washington, an official in the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement Saturday night by the Saudi Embassy there that his Government condemned the violence committed at the Saudi Embassy in Teheran and denounced the Iranian authorities for failing to prevent the incident. [ ''The kingdom considers this attack a violation of all laws and norms, as well as a contradiction of Moslem ethics,'' the statement said, ''and demands that the Iranian authorities interfere immediately to promptly return the four embassy employeess who were brutally attacked and those detained or kidnapped by the authorities in Teheran.'' ] At midday, a crowd burst into the French Embassy and pulled down its flag. France is embroiled in a dispute with Iran over an interpreter who refuses to leave the Iranian Embassy in Paris. He is wanted by the French police for questioning about in terrorist activity.

France and Iran have put each other's embassy under siege. A French fleet is on its way to the gulf. Tension Is Widespread

The clashes in Mecca came at a tense moment for in the area, as American warships continued to escort Kuwaiti vessels, flying the American flag, back through the Strait of Hormuz. One of the Kuwaiti tankers, the Bridgeton, struck a mine on the inbound voyage. There is speculation that the mine was planted in the shipping lane by an Iranian speedboat.

In the emotional atmosphere, heightened by the battles in Mecca, there is concern that the tension could spread to other Shiites in the strategic area.

The vulnerable points are seen as, notably, the oil-producing Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia, where there was rioting by Shiites in 1979; in Kuwait, where some of the Shiite minority have joined a pro-Iranian underground that has set off bombs in the oilfields, and in Bahrain, which has a 70 percent Shiite population and is the base of the American gulf fleet. 'American Plot' Is Charged

Iranian leaders immediately declared that the clashes and deaths in Mecca were the result of yet another ''American plot,'' and they stepped up the polemics of recent days against the American escort of Kuwaiti tankers.

''This plot is a U.S.-designed conspiracy,'' Iran's President, Hojatolislam Ali Khamenei, said, emerging from an emergency meeting of his Cabinet this afternoon.

''No doubt the U.S. shoulders responsibility for it,'' he said, adding, ''Of course the Saudi Government is also responsible because it was carried out through the Saudis and their police.''

''Scores of innocent Iranian pilgrims were martyred and many others were wounded when the Saudi police opened fire on a peaceful unity rally,'' the Iranian press agency said.

A Saudi agency dispatch said, ''A number of men and women, pilgrims as well as local residents, were killed as a result of the demagogic stampede.''

The Sunni and Shiite branches of Islam split in the late seventh century in a dispute over whether the Prophet Mohammed's son-in-law, Ali, should carry on as the fourth caliph, or successor. The Shiites - meaning partisans or supporters of Ali - lost, and since then have been a kind of underclass in the Islamic world, nurturing an emotional faith with an emphasis on martyrdom. Trip to Mecca an Obligation

Making the pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in a lifetime, if it can be afforded, is one of the five obligations of a devout Moslem, and the annual hajj occupies an important place in the Islamic world.

Iran has sought to use the pilgrimage to try to spread its Islamic revolution, among others Moslem, to the dismay of Saudi officials. The Saudis have been especially nervous since 1979, when a Sunni fundamentalist, claiming to be the returned Mahdi, or Savior, seized the Grand Mosque with an armed band. A long siege of the mosque left more than 100 dead. 'Break America's Teeth'

Ayatollah Khomeini had urged the pilgrims to carry out a ''disavowal of the pagans,'' over the gulf war, calling for a ''unity rally'' to seek ''deliverance from infidels.'' He urged Moslems, ''Break America's teeth in its mouth.''

Objective accounts of the Mecca clash were difficult to come by. Saudi Arabia has been sealed off since Wednesday night as part of the normal preparations for the piligrimage and, in any case, Mecca is closed to non-Moslems. Saudi officials are traditionally secretive in times of stress.

From the accounts that were available, it appeared that a large number of Iranians gathered after the Friday prayer and began chanting and burning effigies of President Reagan. The Saudi police were reported to have warned them to disperse, then attacked with clubs and gas.

Steel-helmeted policemen were said to be trying to round up Iranians among the sea of tents set up for the pilgrims.

Iran announced that it was sending a high-level delegation to Mecca to investigate the incident and declared three days of morning and a ''Day of Hatred'' for America.

Prime Minister Mir Hossein Mousavi said Iran would mobilize its resources to avenge what he called the massacre of the pilgrims.

In Lebanon, the pro-Iranian Party of God said that Saudi Arabia should pay for the deaths of the Shiite pilgrims.

''It should be punished in a way appropriate to the crime,'' the Party of God said, adding, ''The Moslem uprising has started and the day of conquering has neared.''
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/08/02/world/400-die-iranian-marchers-battle-saudi-police-mecca-embassies-smashed-teheran.html?pagewanted=all

Photo fo Iranian protesters at Kuwaiti Embassy in Teheran (AP)

This stampede is coming at a time of heightened tensions in the middle east between the Shiites led by Iran and the Sunnis led by Saudi Arabia.

The Nigerian govt should ask the Saudi govt to repatriate all the dead from Saudi in order to conduct a full autopsy.

bonechamberlain:
welcome, wonderful contributions, but I think s/korea, would not want to involve itself in any world war, even the u.s might support them to be neutral. because if they get involved, they invite the north, i f they invite the north, hmm be sure that nuclear weapons would be involved cause the north Koreans know nothing about restraint when they come out, they do it all they have. if that happens it would become a nuclear war, which is what the u.s and other rational thinking countries are trying to avoid.

I was reacting to another poster who claimed south Korea as a force to reckon!

If full world war begins, North Korea will not hessitate to overrun Seoul with little or no ressistance

bonechamberlain:
is it parallel 68? I think it's 38 parallel.

Thnx. It the the 38th Parallel

hinwazaka:
They are here to force on us their prerogatives in OPEC. They don't care about BOKO HARAM. They haven't raised a finger to stop the activities of ISIS, who are allies of the BOKO HARAM sect. They might actually be the sponsors, and have simply come to meet their foot soldiers with a bullion van.

OPEC?

The Saudis are behind the current drop in oil as they continue to overflood the market with cheap oil on the behest of the US to hurt Russia and Iran and also rubbish any direct investment China has in Africa over oil.

These bastards are here to tell their boko commander, Buhari to get ready to send a brigade of would be suicide bombs to help them when Iran and Russia finally decides to destroy that shaitan kingdom

They are here to ask for more ab0ki and yoruba muslim dunces to help fight Russia in Syria.

Obama gets screwed harder! Israel officially joins Russian coalition.

Now it's only Obama, Saudi Arabia and goat farkers backing ISIS.

vedaxcool:
Let me put the winning quote that derail some sensory nerves in your cerebral cortex

You still dey sleep?

Iran wants to destroy Saudi Arabia and the Kabbah.

You Arab slaves should go and fight for your pagan shrine.

It is not longer before you slavery is obvious to you .

vedaxcool:
How low biafrauds have sunken, before they kiss butt of Jews, now kiss butt of vodka russians!

Afghanistan II Loading. . .

The very thought of Putin sending in the Chechens is already making your Caliphate goat farkers shit in their pants.

This is like unleashing the kraken!

https://cdn5.img.sputniknews.com/images/101410/52/1014105291.jpg
“In 1999 when Chechnya was in the hands of these devils, I, as a Muslim, a Chechen and a patriot of Russia, vowed to devote all my life to fighting [the terrorists] everywhere. I ask for permission for us to go to Syria and take part in these special operations there,” Kadyrov told Russian News Service radio on Friday.

He added that it was up President Putin to decide, but added that Chechen soldiers were ready to join in the fight in Syria.

“[size=18pt]The moment the terrorists in Syria realize that [Chechen] soldiers are on the way, they will immediately get out of there,” Kadyrov added.[/size]



Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151002/1027901808/kadyrov-syria-soldiers-request.html#ixzz3nxOxTpE1

vedaxcool:
How low biafrauds have sunken, before they kiss butt of Jews, now kiss butt of vodka russians!

Afghanistan II Loading. . .

Your ISIS goat farkers are already shitting on their pants.

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Russia and Iran will destabilize Saudi Arabia and throw that evil kingdom into war upon itself.

With that, your US will collapse and with it it's puppet govts across the globe including your daft Buhari.

We in Niger Delta and Biafra republic will align with China and Russia.

Dey there...


The schmitta began on September 23. The very day that Russian troop build up began in Syra.

You are now officially condemned to slavery for the next 100 generations under your Fulani lords.

vedaxcool:
But the Russians are saints according to you? Mtshceew

If those Russian bombs are so accurate at hitting their targets and not hospitals is because they have a heaven-guiding system that is programmed to destroy everything withing 5km radius that has a sullen beard.

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Your Islamic army is dealing with a superior and holy army unlike that your fagg0t infested US army.

The Russians even bless their AK's not to miss their targets.

https://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/pb-130123-blessing-rifles-jsa-1.photoblog900.jpg

Russia is the army of Rome that will crush your religion to dust

capip120:
Seems to me like there are many American sympathizers here who lacks analogical sense.
I will be very glad if Russia intensifies it's bomb to include the stupid free Syrian army a military arm of the US which seeks to depose Assad. The US is a country with full hypocrites and double standardness.

If you check, all those posters sympathetic to the US cause here are Muslims,

They know the backbone and authority given to their beast, ISIL comes from that dragon , America.

They are not happy with Russia destroying their caliphate.

This is more than enough proof that virtually all Moslem filth posting here and in the real world support ISIS.

War is coming home to Saudi Arabia and with it the final death to the petrodollar hegenomy.

DaBullIT:
Been following that news and there's no evidence US bombed the hospital, as a matter of fact i watched the video as well , but not my business sha

A fool for life.

The US govt has come out to apologize for the bombing.

A special UN commission is carrying out further investigation on the attack to see if they can charge US for war crimes and you are here posting crap from your dirty one room shack in osogbo .


APC zombie

obailala:
Are you okay?

what is the meaning of what you have just said and what link does this or anything that has happened today have with what I said?...

Le fool, I will forever keep exposing your fake messiahs and prophets of change.

I am the one that exposed the fact that Hausa language was never part of the northern NIGERIAN curriculum when your goat herding cow farker Buhari claimed to have written WAEC.

This is just the tip.

We will leave you fools wallowing in disgrace and shame with that truth that you so abhor.

Zombie

OrlandoOwoh:
In this regard, during the slave trade era in the US, people were classified into black, coloured and white. The coloured people who are light-skinned are categorized as being the same with the blacks, and are discriminated against. President Thomas Jefferson of the US kept his light-skinned mistress, Sally Hamings, in a secret place for this reason.

In racial setting, light-skinned people have more affinity with black people.

You are spewing rubbish as usual.

In segregated America, there were only two classifications - White and Coloured.

Mexicans, Red Indians and even brownish looking Eastern Europeans like Armenians still had to get a sit at the back of the bus.

It is only in Apartheid south Africa and in the old French Dominican colony that Mulatos where considered special.

They only special privilege reserved for Mulatos in the days of slavery in America is that they worked in the big house and not the fields and that the mulato women and girls were more prized as sex slaves and destined for the master's chambers or brothels.

OdenigboAroli:
These mixed breeds are very manipulative and they feel entitled...They can also go both ways when it's convenient. I hate interracial and inter-tribal marriages!

I truly don't blame them because most of you Africans celebrate them and give them privileges which they won't get with Whites!

As I said earlier the most arrogant and those with the most highly entitled mentality among biracial people are those from Black Fathers and white mothers.

A white mother will prevent her children from learning the culture, traditions and languages of their father. And in most cases will even take their children out of Africa back to Europe.

This is why these types of mulatos always look down on African culture and Africans in general.

This is not restricted to race marriages alone but also in inte-tribal marriages. The dominant partner will determine which culture the child is to pursue just as an Igbo woman will insist on taking her Yoruba fathered children to her Ibo village and teaching them Ibo and how to eat akpu and Oha soup rather than learning ingbati and how to slurp gbegiriri down with amala.

Also, I hate to say this, but it is very true as we know that most black men who look for oyibo woman are most of the time complexed inferiorly to the whites. How can a black man who is used to women do all the chores choose to marry an oyibo that will not even boil an egg?

If we consider the reverse case of a white man marrying a black woman , you will see that their offspring don't feel entitled or confused. Their black mothers give them the balance of both trainings to ensure they stay rooted.

So the secret key to a mentally healthy mulato life is to have the right secret ingredient - a black strong Mother!

Despite the political and military upheavals in surrounding countries, Saudi Arabia's internal situation appeared to be under control in early 1992. Most Saudis seemed to accept the authority of the Al Saud and strict observance of Islamic law to ensure domestic stability. However, the kingdom's sudden exposure to international scrutiny after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990 brought into sharp relief the polarization between the two competing forces of society--the powerful religious establishment and the liberal reformist elements. The modern sector pressed for greater popular participation in decision making and for greater accountability by the government (see Other Groups , ch. 4). Criticism and anger over corruption by members of the royal family and other members of the elite were more openly expressed than previously. King Fahd promised that he would create a majlis ash shura (consultative council) to respond to political grievances. Such promises had been made in the past, however, with little result.

Some potential for social instability arose from the modernists' belief that the ruling family remained too deferential to traditional Muslim interests. These liberal elements desired the opportunity for involvement in the political process and a share of political power. In May 1991, it was reported that even the conservative religious establishment had petitioned the government for a consultative assembly. This action was accompanied by demonstrations in several cities. Extremists accused the religious establishment of hypocrisy in adhering to Islamic practices and of the maldistribution of wealth, fueling resentments within broad segments of Saudi society.

Marginal political groups of the left and right were considered illegal and their members were subject to arrest and detention by government security organs. These groups included the Organization of Islamic Revolution in the Arabian Peninsula, the Arab Socialist Action Party, and the Party of God in the Hijaz. The sizable alien population, estimated at 4.6 million in 1992 and representing more than half the labor force, was feared as a possible source of divisiveness as well as a disruptive influence on the thinking and attitudes of the indigenous population. It was assumed that clandestine organs of external political movements such as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) were represented in the labor force. Among the most numerous of the foreign workers were Yemenis, who always tended to be regarded with suspicion. Because many of these workers were employed in strategic economic sectors and in the oil industry, strikes and sabotage were constant dangers. In 1990 the Saudi authorities took measures to identify illegal residents and to regularize their status or deport them. These efforts intensified after the Persian Gulf crisis began, and about 1 million Yemenis as well as Sudanese, Iraqis, and Palestinians were compelled to leave.

In the oil-rich Eastern Province (Al Ahsa) lived between 200,000 and 400,000 Shia. They had endured two centuries of Wahhabi subjugation and remained disaffected elements in Saudi society. Riots in late 1979 and early 1980 among the Shia were believed to have been inspired by taped messages of the Ayatollah Khomeini. Because Shia comprised possibly half of the labor force of the Arabian American Oil Company (Aramco), from 1988 called the Saudi Arabian Oil Company (Saudi Aramco), the government treated their presence as a security problem. During the 1980s, the government bolstered its security forces in the area, while at the same time attempting to allay Shia resentment by responding to their social and religious grievances. Among other groups with a distinct identity within the kingdom were the Hijazis, who lived along the mountainous western coast extending to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, and the tribes of Asir Province just north of Yemen. Although both groups benefited from the rising wealth of the country, they lacked sympathy for the traditional royalist regime and for the strict religious leadership. Accordingly, questions of their fundamental loyalty to the Al Saud persisted.

The likelihood of schisms within the royal family arising from policy differences or personal rivalries seemed remote but could not be completely discounted. Factional disputes could arise over such issues as the closeness of ties with the United States or curbing the power of the religious establishment. For the most part, the informal assembly of princes has succeeded in keeping rivalries within bounds and has prevented internal differences from becoming public issues.

In view of elaborate security measures, such as the division of armed power between the regular military and the national guard, and the substantial benefits enjoyed by both officers and enlisted personnel, the possibility of an insurrection emerging from the armed forces was regarded as highly unlikely. Nevertheless, in 1991 leaflets critical of royal princes were reportedly distributed in garrisons. The influence of radical Islamists among soldiers and lower ranking officers was said to be growing.

The military leadership has been free from serious conspiracies against the regime except for an abortive coup by air force officers in 1969. About 300 air force personnel were arrested even before the plot was set in motion. The dissidents were tried and sentenced to prison, but by the mid-1970s all had been released. High wages and privileges tended to keep discontent among the officer corps to a minimum. The appointment of many members of the royal family to military positions also provided a measure of protection against intrigue. The separate national guard, with its tribal roots, provided an additional safeguard against any threat from the military.

The prestige of the House of Saud was closely associated with the protection of the holy places. When, in 1979, an armed group of about 500 religious extremists occupied the Grand Mosque of Mecca, the standing of the royal family was seriously affected. The insurgent leader condemned the Al Saud for corruption, declaring that the kingdom's rulers had forsaken the primary tenets of Islam. Security forces did not immediately respond to the occupation because of the Quran's strictures against shedding blood in the holy place. Partly as a result of lack of coordination and poor discipline, it took troops, national guard, and security forces fourteen days of heavy fighting to oust the insurgents. Many people were killed. The occupation of the Grand Mosque inspired riots and demonstrations by Shia dissidents, which were answered by the liberal use of firearms and the sealing off of major trouble spots by the national guard (see The Reign of Khalid, 1975-82).

Followers of Ayatollah Khomeini tried to stir up trouble by disrupting the annual hajj, or pilgrimage to Mecca, on several occasions during the 1980s, but heavy security controls usually succeeded in preventing major incidents (see Pilgrimage , ch. 2). In July 1987, however, more than 400 people died as a result of a serious riot instigated by thousands of Iranian pilgrims. Khomeini called for the overthrow of the Saudi royal family to avenge the pilgrims' deaths. Saudi Arabia, in turn, accused Iran of staging the riots to support its demands that Mecca and Medina be internationalized as pan-Islamic cities. Several Saudi Shia were tried and executed for exploding bombs at Saudi oil facilities in 1988, probably as retaliation by Iran and its sympathizers against restrictions on Iranian attendance at the annual pilgrimage after the 1987 riots. A number of bomb attacks were made on Saudi agencies abroad--primarily offices of the national airline, Saudia. Saudi diplomats were assassinated by groups calling themselves the Party of God in the Hijaz, Soldiers of the Right, and Arab Fury. Both types of attack were thought to be the work of Saudi Shia instigated by elements of the Iranian government. Saudi Arabia accused Iran in connection with two bomb incidents during the 1989 hajj in apparent retaliation for Saudi restrictions against Iranian pilgrims. Sixteen Kuwaiti Shia were executed for these attacks (see Regional Security , ch. 4).

Some easing of relations with Iran occurred after Khomeini's death in 1989. During the 1990 pilgrimage, more than 1,400 pilgrims were trampled to death or suffocated after they were stampeded in an underground tunnel. The incident, however, was not linked to Iran. Disputes over the size of the Iranian contingent and rules governing their conduct prevented Iranians from participating in the hajj for three years. In 1991 the Saudis accepted a quota of 115,000 Iranian pilgrims and allowed political demonstrations in Mecca. Although peaceful, the demonstrations included strident attacks on the United States and Israel.

The Persian Gulf War placed new strains on the government's efforts to maintain the allegiances of both the modern, secular segments of Saudi society and the traditional, religious elements. Although it offered some conciliatory gestures to the modernists, the government appeared adamant and ready to respond forcefully to any dissent against the authority of the Al Saud.

The existence of a large and diffuse royal family, the vast territorial extent of the kingdom, and its widely scattered population centers reduced the likelihood that an attempt to overthrow Saudi rule could succeed. Still, the government continued to exercise control over the information media and strictly supervised or prohibited independent interest groups such as political parties or labor unions.

Islamic radicals were few in number but had undeniable influence, projecting their messages from the public mosques and university classrooms. Their criticism that the government under King Fahd had weakened in its devotion to Islamic principles was difficult to silence because it was offered in an Islamic context. Islamist pressure for greater Islamization in education, the press, and foreign policy appeared to strengthen after the Persian Gulf War.

gunuvi:
It takes a listening ear and an elder to understand you. So far, I am with you as from the past events, especially the arabs springs, it has shown that any little crises in any country can affect the overall growth and peace of that nation. Nigeria is an example. All what Russia or any strong enemy nation of Saudi(God forbid) needs is for the nation to cause unrest and that's all.
I understand you but I am for peace! Russia should not do it either should any country. All what this world needs is peace but you are very correct in your foresight and assertion.

I have also been able to dig up some more intriguing facts for you.

Do you know that the majority of pilgrims who died in this year's stampede were Iranian?

Do you also know that in Iran it is strongly believed that the Iranian pilgrims who died where not killed in a stampede but gassed to death as they made their way through a tunnel passing?

Do you also know that every year the Iranian Revolutionary Council sends a delegation of hajj pilgrims from that country to protest against the Saudi monarchy in Mecca ?

Are you aware of the 1987 riots staged by Iranian pilgrims demanding for an end of the Saudi monarchy? Iran will later be banned for 3 yrs from participating in the hajj.

What have you done to end poverty and Edo girls going abroad to prost1tute?

Oko ashewoe

So we can see that from both past and present, the Saudi monarchy has been fighting day and night to remain in power.

One of the biggest flaw the Saudi monarchy has against it in the eyes of the Muslim world is its monarchical structure.

Islam is anti monarchy and the only form of govt allowed is a theoracracy.

Ibn Saud ( the founder of modern day Saudi Arabia) was supported by the British to unite feuding Arab tribes and clans in what is today present day Saudi Arabia but only on the condition that he does not declare himself Khalifar!

The British had their nightmares of Mahdist movements in Sudan where Khartoum was overran by Jihadist and the Colonial Governor of then Sudan, was beheaded.

Lord Lugard will apply restraint in dismantling the power blocs in northern Nigeria in order not to inspire another Mahdist movement against his relatively small number of troops stationed across northern Nigeria - A region of close to 30,000 sq miles!

Fast forward today, and the same Islamic State which was propped and financed by the US and the Saudi monarchy is now coming home to haunt them.

Even the likes of Osama bin Laden ( a Saudi Prince himself) frowned at the mention of a caliphate since this will undermine his own family legitimate claims to power in Saudi Arabia.

The current monarchy was obviously not paying attention to history and the demands of their own people when they created the Caliphate in Syria and Iraq. Now that same model of governance is what most saudis are demanding for to replace the monarchy.

Saudi Arabia is doomed

The Saudi regime is severely repressive. All newspapers and magazines coming into the country are censored or turned back at the border if they unfavorably mention the Saud family. As for the treatment of the internal press, one small indication of its constraint is that in 1981, Saudi journalist Fawzia Al Bakr was imprisoned simply for submitting to her paper a story critical of the regime's policy toward women.

Both eye-witnesses and two Egyptian newspapers report that the 1988 Mecca incident, described in America as an ``Iranian anti-American riot,'' was in fact a demonstration by Saudi Shiites, along with some Iranians, against the Saudi monarchy and in favor of a caliphate. Since Islam explicitly rejects the establishment of monarchies and a caliphate is the approved form of government, the demonstration had considerable religious legitimacy.

The demonstrators must have been unarmed, as Egyptian reports indicated, because Saudi airport security is so strict that it would have been virtually impossible to smuggle firearms into the country. Moreover, the loincloth worn by pilgrims contains no pockets or folds in which to conceal weapons. Apparently, the Saudi security forces simply opened fire on thousands of unarmed men and women in a massacre on the scale of Tiananmen. (One Egyptian man told me of having his jaw broken with a club when he went to the assistance of a woman who had been shot.) After the Egyptian newspaper Saut al Arab printed its account of the massacre, the Egyptian government revoked the newspaper's license at the request of the Saudi King Fahd. It now publishes from London.

Finally, the recent ``stampede'' in Mecca this Haj, supposedly the result of a failed ventilator in a pedestrian tunnel, has provoked rumors that the 1,426 fatalities were victims of a poison gas attack. Some say terrorists pumped gas into the tunnel to discredit the Saud family's custody of Muslim shrines. Others say the Saudi government killed the pilgrims to prevent another demonstration. The immediate burial of the victims in unmarked graves fueled further speculation. Both these rumors may be false. The Wahabi sect of Islam, to which the Sauds adhere, dictates that all graves be unmarked. The existence of the rumor, however, shows the brutality of which the Sauds are believed to be capable.

After this coup attempt, American involvement became deeper. Peter Hobday, in ``Saudi Arabia Today,'' says, ``The [Saudi] secret service was entrusted to an American security firm, Interset, which included in its higher management ... retired CIA men, army generals, and former American cabinet members.'' Despite these precautions, King Faisal was assassinated in 1975 by Ibn Mosaid, a member of the royal family. Some say the assassination was the result of a dispute between King Faisal and then-Prince Fahd over measures used against the opposition.

In 1979, the opposition resurfaced with the seizure of the Grand Mosque in Mecca by Saudi rebels. According to Saudi dissidents and Egyptian newspaper accounts, these rebels were not the ``fundamentalist extremists'' described in the American press, but a coalition of Saudi liberal intellectuals with the fundamentalists.

Apparently, the revolt had widespread popular support. A Saudi ambassador quoted by a November 1979 report in the New York Times said, ``There's a spreading feeling of unrest and impatience with the uneven justice, with the huge commissions paid to princes, with the double standard we have to live with. The people in Mecca are asking for a change in the ruling system. They are saying that royalty is non-Islamic. This movement is much bigger than its leadership would suggest.'' Some Saudi intellectuals allege that the helicopters that opened fire on the rebel-held mosque were manned by American ``military advisers.''

[size=18pt]History of Dissent in Saudi Arabia[/size]

AMERICAN soldiers in Saudi Arabia may find themselves in more danger from Saudi opposition forces than they are from the Iraqi army. A quick look at the history of Saudi internal opposition and American involvement in their suppression will explain why. Both Western political historians and Arab journalists claim that the power struggles within Saudi Arabia have been far more violent and more ideologically motivated than American newspapers have indicated. One source of unrest has been the predominantly Shiite population of Saudi Arabia's oil-producing eastern province, who object to the Saudi monarchy on religious, economic, and political grounds.

In 1965, hundreds of Shiite activists, labeled communists, were imprisoned by the Saudi regime. This did not prevent a coup attempt in 1966. The rebels set off bombs near then-Prince Faud's palace, at the office of the senior American adviser in Riyadh, at the post office in Riyadh, at the Saudi security headquarters in Dammam, and at a Saudi airbase near the Yemeni border. At that time, King Faisal sought American help and renewed American guarantees of ``Saudi territorial integrity.'' The Saudi opposition is aware of the role played by the United States in apprehending the rebels.

In 1969, some 200-300 Saudi military officers attempted another coup. These officers were part of the National Liberation Front, a Saudi organization with Baathist and Marxist sympathies. Mass arrests followed. According to Dr. Fatina Shaker, some 2,000 Saudi students were recalled from abroad and arrested for ``requesting that the United Nations investigate the situation of political prisoners in Saudi Arabia.'' Also arrested were hundreds of Ghamidi tribesmen from the Asir (western) region and from the Yemeni border. These tribesmen were accused of being agents of the Iraqi Baathist party.

tobimillar:
This leostrich guy sounds deranged...

fineguy11:
Exactly..DOnt mind that 'crack sniffing bedroom analyst' called OSTRISH..,who obviously is in a infantile state..

[size=18pt]
Is Saudi Arabia Heading Towards A Coup?[/size]
By Amir Mateen

WASHINGTON - The United States is concerned about a possible fall of the House of Sauds in Saudi Arabia. "Is Saudi Arabia heading for an Iranian-style Islamic revolution?" is the question that continues to be debated on major TV networks and newspapers. The New York Times says the issue of Saudi stability has been factored into Washington's strategic thinking for several years.
 
One reason for subjecting Saudi Arabia to the CIA's "hard-target strategy"was concern that the United States could lose its closest ally in the Persian Gulf, just as it lost Iran in the 1979 Revolution. Task forces established after the Alkhober bombing warned that Washington's information void about the threats facing a closed society was so vast that such a conclusion was far from certain.
 
After claims by federal investigators that 15 of the 19 hijackers in the September 11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia and that some recruiting, financing and planning for the attacks occurred on Saudi soil, there is anxiety once again that the kingdom may be vulnerable to 'enemies' in its midst.
 
That anxiety is compounded by charges from critics in the kingdom that the Saudi royal family is too close to Washington, and by critics in the United States that the family is not close enough, says the Times. It is believed that the Saudis are in a tight fix. The Islamists think the Saudis have sold out to the Americans and the Americans think they have sold out to the terrorists. Eventually this translates into an erosion of legitimacy.
 
But does that translate into popular revolution in the name of Islam? Asks the NY Times. Many believe there are parallels between the House of Saud and the Pahlavi dynasty in Iran. Like pre-revolutionary Iran, Saudi Arabia is an authoritarian, oil-rich monarchy with a Muslim population. It is notorious for corruption and profligate spending, resistant to democratization, viewed increasingly as subservient to the will of Washington, dependent on American weaponry and criticized by radicals in exile and some conservative clerics for not being Islamic enough.
 
But others believe the Shah of Iran was a singular, isolated ruler, while the Saudis have dispersed power throughout the royal family. Many of its 7,000 members hold key political positions (the governors and military commanders in nearly every province are members) and run important businesses.
 
All eyes are on Crown Prince Abdullah. He is regarded as a pious, incorruptible leader more responsive to the people and more willing than his predecessor, King Fahd, to take on Washington, particularly when it comes to policy toward the Palestinians. (King Fadís illness has left him unable to govern.) The strongest nationalist voice in Saudi Arabia today is Abdullah, so he may be able to respond in a way that the Shah could not.The problem today is that the House of Saud is suffering from a steady degradation of support rather than widespread opposition to its rule, says the report.
 
Saudi Arabia has 30 percent unemployment and one of the highest birth rates in the world. Average income has dropped by at least half since the heyday of the oil boom of the early 1980's. Most of the people are under 15, a population bulge that will put even more pressure on an already crumbling infrastructure.

http://www.rense.com/general16/isSuadiarabiahead.htm

DaBullIT:
blame it on the yolobas

Before nko?

No be Obasanjo award the old derilict electrification transmission system to his fellow Yoruba thief, Abiola in 1974.

Every facet of mediocrity, ineptitude, corruption and sleaze can be traced to when Yorubas where in control of the administration of the public sector.


Other negative things Yorubas invented are:

1. Face me I face you with one toilet per 40 tenets squeezed in one building.

2. Retailing of govt tap water which will later spin the pure water industry.

3. Tokunbo babies and drug mules in the 70's which will later make the UK stop granting free entries on Nigerian passports in their ports.

4. Pomo. The zero nutrient fibrous meat alternative was introduced to Nigerian culinary at the detriment of the leather industries. Now Nigerians eat their belts and shoes.

5. Armed robbery.

6. Forgery. Every respectable Yoruba man has a duly faked Oluwole document as proof of academic excellence. See Tinubu.

7. Ritual killings.

8. Extortion racket aka agbereoes and Area Fathers and their sons.

9. Public defecation.

10. Molue and danfor transportation.

11. One chance robbery was perfected and first executed on the streets of Lagos by Yoruba armed robbers masquerading as bus drivers.

That is not the queen of England.

OdenigboAroli:
I don't know about light skin people not being black because we have them in my family but multi-racial kids mixed with blacks ARE definitely NOT black.

Agreed they are not black!

That same argument should be applied to say they are not white also.

The only people supporting boko haram is your useless president and his cabal cabinet.


You where one of many APC zombies who during GEJ was accusing the Nigerian Army of killing innocent civilians whenever the army publishes pictures of your dead jihadist.

You fools also aligned with Amnesty Intl to discredit the Nigerian Army and also supported the arms embargo to Nigeria.

You APC zombies also propagated the false notion that Ihekerija was committing genocide in the north and also supporting Boko Haram.

The only thing you fools seem not to understand is that we lament and wail when we see hear about boko activities given that your useless boko commander Buhari promised to wipe boko off.


We also see how your jihadist president is desperately trying to deflect the terror attacks as not boko haram in his quest to start a war in the Niger Delta and Biafra and also to downplay the gains of his lunatic jihadist mob.

So forever remember that we are in no way supporting Boko Haram neither are we using Boko Haram terror activities for keeping political points but rather stating the obvious fact tha Boko haram is very much alive, that they continue to promote their jihad war , that the president is playing to the gallery on boko haram and is looking for other minority groups in the south to blame for boko haram as he shops for paid amnesty for the bastards and finally that the phantom Chibok girls still remain missing!

Goat

vladimiros:
Lol. FATALITY..YOU FINISHED HIM!@

As I earlier said, this confusion is mostly found in mulatos with Black Fathers.

I believe this has to do with the inferiority complex and craving for white women that their black fathers have.

https://i.huffpost.com/gen/1466602/images/n-BILL-DE-BLASIO-INTERRACIAL-MARRIAGE-large570.jpg

A white US politician and his biracial kids.

Do the kids look like they want to be white?

For the OP's info, being white in America is defined by carrying the caucassian gene.

Arabs of north Africa, Sudan and even Somalia are classified caucassian.

In Nigeria, only the Hausa/Fulani carry the Caucasian gene while Ibos are suspected to carry the Jew gene.

Every other person who doesn't have slit eyes and yellow skin (gooks) and isn't carrying th caucasian gene is a nigga.

So I want you to say it loud!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/3d/81/93/3d8193356dcebf6f1feb1d1a4deda95a.jpg

vladimiros:
Major one..more important biracials than him have never bern sshamed of their negro side. The fool hates it

He's probably one of those products of a Bini exchange student and a Russian wh0re like Odumwinge.

Biracial kids from this union are heavily discriminated in Russia not because of their interracial heritage but because 99.9% of the time the Russian women who have them were confirmed hoes and virtually all the time the African men will later return back to Africa abandoning them never to return just like that bastard Obama.
In Russia , mulatos go a long way trying to look white by bleaching their skins.

So you can see that the likes of OP who wants to claim a separate race outside the Negriod is actually desperately wanting to be white!

This is the case with most mulatos who are fathered by African men and white women. They appear more white on the outside than mulatos of white males and black women.

If you want to see any half caste poser claiming oyibo then know he or she had her black father.

Whatever they do, they should know that they are not and can never be white!

Religion misoverstood is poison
Sisters up in my hood try to do good given choices
When pregnant, drop out of school or have abortions
Stop workin hopin that they find a man that will support them
Up late night, on they mother's cordless
Thinkin a perm or bleach and cream will make them better when they gorgeous
White girls tannin, lyposuction
Fake titties are implanted, fake lips that's life destruction
[size=18pt]Light-skinned women, bi-racial hateful toward themselves
Denyin even they blood
I don't judge Tiger Woods but I, understand the mental poison
That's even worser than drugs - yo it's poison[/size]

thiagoneves:
nigger I didn't smoke any weed. Just angry that people generalize a set of people without studying them. I'm not Black but you negroes will never learn.

For your info, you can only be considered white to a certain degree if your father is white.

There is a male gene that is only inherited by a male offspring from your father and so forth .

If your dad is black then you are black! So stop your foolishness.