Originalsly: HIV is not spread via sexual intercourse only....so one should not equate virginity with being HIV negative.
Yes you are right but an talking about people who got infected from their mothers at birth and are presently teens or adults now .
As for my wife she got infected from unscreened blood .when she was anaemic as a child ..she also hot infected with Hep B
It was as a result of the baby in LUTH that was transfused got infected with HIV that made govt to take proactive measures to start screening blood fir HIV and Hep B
impeccablephili: Do you know some women don't disclose their HIV status to their spouses, if you are a midwife in a government hospital you'll understand.
There are some people who don't go for antenatal care but are rushed to hospital during labour. What midwives do it's to take precautions while attending to them. Those kind of people will not even know their HIV status.
Originalsly: Like DrAda .... I'm not buying this story. If she was HIV positive it would've had to be from birth. If it were from birth then she would've been no more before age 8. It is more likely she was never HIV positive. If she is now .... at 16 ...she should let us know about her sexual history. It is more likely she acquired HIV due to sexual activities as a young teenager .....or .... her father is a pedophile and sexually abused her from age 8 .... which the grandmother knew about....and decided to give her his medication in the hope of controlling the spread.
Please read my response to dr Ada from page 2 of this thread .so u understand better .
There are lots of virgins that are living with HIV.
These are people who were given birth before pmtct( prevention of mother to child transfer ) clinics were established across the country ...
I married a virgin living with the virus for ur information .
fyneboi79: And also I think ,expectant mother's are tested for HIV to decide on the mode of birth to prevent transmission to the child. Good logical analysis from a female... Supposedly.
Her analysis is wrong and we are all here to learn u can read up my response to her questions paragraph by paragraph on page 2 of this thread .
Any child given birth to from 2012 and is positive will later ask the mother why his or her case was different since Pmtct was already in existence
As regards ur post even if prevention of mother to child transfer was initiated in 2002 in Nigeria across 6 facilities nationwide that was never enough .
It was not until 2009 when they rolled out National policy/ guidelines for pmtct( prevention of mother to child transfer ) 2010-2015 across the federation that people benefitted from it ..
It is also important I mention that despite the fact of pmtct (prevention of mother to child transfer ) clinics in almost all primary health care centres some mothers are still negligent and are putting their unborn children at risk
DrAda: Sad story but there are holes in it. I find it hard to believe that she was born with HIV, only to be discovered at 8 years of age. That is practically impossible as the disease would have advanced so much so that i don't expect her to be alive without anti-retroviral drugs.
Which begs the next question, if she was infected much later, how did she get it? Was she sexually abused by the dad who is also HIV positive or transfused at some point with his blood? Did they share sharps?
The story about the grandmother just handing her drugs is also unbelievable. Where was she getting the drugs from? I know for certain that she didn't buy it because they are expensive so she must have gotten them for free from a hospital.
Which begs the next question, who on earth in an hospital environment will give HIV drugs to a healthy person for a sick person? Or did the grandmother take some of the dad's meds to give the child. If so, how did the dad convince the health care providers the reason his medications were finishing so quickly. I would have suspected that he was selling the drugs and flagged him from getting any further drugs.
And then finally, when she went to the hospital to collect her drugs as a teenager (several years later), she learnt the truth about her status. That makes no sense. What about her latest CD4 count, periodic checks on other investigations to ascertain if there are side effects to the drugs etc. How did she manage to remain stable up until this point without ever been in a clinic and being monitored by a doctor?
Like I said, there are holes in this story but it makes for an interesting read and most importantly draws attention to HIV in children and its attendant negative social effects. So well done.
I have honestly answered ur questions which I believe would aid u in understanding the post clearly ..
There was an orphan that was abandoned at my former pla e of work at eight years old
Both parents died as a result of AIDS and he lives with the virus ..
I could not get any orphanage to care for him in Lagos back then but I finally found one in Kaduna that took him in .
He finished schooling in Kaduna and doing well now in business .
His kindred want him and are searching seriously for him but he does not want anything to do with them ..
DrAda: Sad story but there are holes in it. I find it hard to believe that she was born with HIV, only to be discovered at 8 years of age. That is practically impossible as the disease would have advanced so much so that i don't expect her to be alive without anti-retroviral drugs.
Which begs the next question, if she was infected much later, how did she get it? Was she sexually abused by the dad who is also HIV positive or transfused at some point with his blood? Did they share sharps?
The story about the grandmother just handing her drugs is also unbelievable. Where was she getting the drugs from? I know for certain that she didn't buy it because they are expensive so she must have gotten them for free from a hospital.
Which begs the next question, who on earth in an hospital environment will give HIV drugs to a healthy person for a sick person? Or did the grandmother take some of the dad's meds to give the child. If so, how did the dad convince the health care providers the reason his medications were finishing so quickly. I would have suspected that he was selling the drugs and flagged him from getting any further drugs.
And then finally, when she went to the hospital to collect her drugs as a teenager (several years later), she learnt the truth about her status. That makes no sense. What about her latest CD4 count, periodic checks on other investigations to ascertain if there are side effects to the drugs etc. How did she manage to remain stable up until this point without ever been in a clinic and being monitored by a doctor?
Like I said, there are holes in this story but it makes for an interesting read and most importantly draws attention to HIV in children and its attendant negative social effects. So well done.
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Children and teens most times don't have same appointments with adults ..
You don't address the kids same way adults are addressed .
The child can come to the clinic not knowing his actual reason ..
Stones opportunistic infections may have set in so the child thinks it's cos of that they are having routine check up ..
Fir lost HIV Facilities even if the child comes as a teenager the staffs are already familiar with the kids
They don't wait like older patients as they get preferential treatment ....
It's in their teenage years that the doctors disclose their status to them ..after taking consent from their parents or guardians ..
Most times their clinics appointments are usually weekends so it's more like a clubhouse ..
They get together .play games .go on excursions etc it's called physcosocial support
They know they are not the only one I decree cos they let then know others in the club are also living with the virus once they disclose their status .to them ..
Their are parents that refuse to disclose to their kids ..
They collect the pills, remove them from the pack and put the pills in an entirely different container
Am talking of kids that are even in universities .
DrAda: Sad story but there are holes in it. I find it hard to believe that she was born with HIV, only to be discovered at 8 years of age. That is practically impossible as the disease would have advanced so much so that i don't expect her to be alive without anti-retroviral drugs.
Which begs the next question, if she was infected much later, how did she get it? Was she sexually abused by the dad who is also HIV positive or transfused at some point with his blood? Did they share sharps?
The story about the grandmother just handing her drugs is also unbelievable. Where was she getting the drugs from? I know for certain that she didn't buy it because they are expensive so she must have gotten them for free from a hospital.
Which begs the next question, who on earth in an hospital environment will give HIV drugs to a healthy person for a sick person? Or did the grandmother take some of the dad's meds to give the child. If so, how did the dad convince the health care providers the reason his medications were finishing so quickly. I would have suspected that he was selling the drugs and flagged him from getting any further drugs.
And then finally, when she went to the hospital to collect her drugs as a teenager (several years later), she learnt the truth about her status. That makes no sense. What about her latest CD4 count, periodic checks on other investigations to ascertain if there are side effects to the drugs etc. How did she manage to remain stable up until this point without ever been in a clinic and being monitored by a doctor?
Like I said, there are holes in this story but it makes for an interesting read and most importantly draws attention to HIV in children and its attendant negative social effects. So well done.
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Paragraph 3 and 4 are related
It's explains why the grand mother can collect her medication ..
It's for this reasons husband's or wives collect for their spouses
People pick up medication for their families and friends most especially if their job won't permit them.
Note we also have discordant couples whereby one partner is living with the virus and the other is not
The negative partner may be the husband or wife and comes to pick up medication for the positive man or woman .
DrAda: Sad story but there are holes in it. I find it hard to believe that she was born with HIV, only to be discovered at 8 years of age. That is practically impossible as the disease would have advanced so much so that i don't expect her to be alive without anti-retroviral drugs.
Which begs the next question, if she was infected much later, how did she get it? Was she sexually abused by the dad who is also HIV positive or transfused at some point with his blood? Did they share sharps?
The story about the grandmother just handing her drugs is also unbelievable. Where was she getting the drugs from? I know for certain that she didn't buy it because they are expensive so she must have gotten them for free from a hospital.
Which begs the next question, who on earth in an hospital environment will give HIV drugs to a healthy person for a sick person? Or did the grandmother take some of the dad's meds to give the child. If so, how did the dad convince the health care providers the reason his medications were finishing so quickly. I would have suspected that he was selling the drugs and flagged him from getting any further drugs.
And then finally, when she went to the hospital to collect her drugs as a teenager (several years later), she learnt the truth about her status. That makes no sense. What about her latest CD4 count, periodic checks on other investigations to ascertain if there are side effects to the drugs etc. How did she manage to remain stable up until this point without ever been in a clinic and being monitored by a doctor?
Like I said, there are holes in this story but it makes for an interesting read and most importantly draws attention to HIV in children and its attendant negative social effects. So well done.
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In HIV Facilities we have what is called treatment partner although it's not compulsory .
Someone must know about ur status ,, it's that person that would help you to remind you it's time for you to take ur medication or go for your appointments ..
You don't expect a child to walk up to the clinic and they start giving him medication
Absolute no ..
grandmother went with her and was told how the drug is been administered since she was the child's carer.
DrAda: Sad story but there are holes in it. I find it hard to believe that she was born with HIV, only to be discovered at 8 years of age. That is practically impossible as the disease would have advanced so much so that i don't expect her to be alive without anti-retroviral drugs.
Which begs the next question, if she was infected much later, how did she get it? Was she sexually abused by the dad who is also HIV positive or transfused at some point with his blood? Did they share sharps?
The story about the grandmother just handing her drugs is also unbelievable. Where was she getting the drugs from? I know for certain that she didn't buy it because they are expensive so she must have gotten them for free from a hospital.
Which begs the next question, who on earth in an hospital environment will give HIV drugs to a healthy person for a sick person? Or did the grandmother take some of the dad's meds to give the child. If so, how did the dad convince the health care providers the reason his medications were finishing so quickly. I would have suspected that he was selling the drugs and flagged him from getting any further drugs.
And then finally, when she went to the hospital to collect her drugs as a teenager (several years later), she learnt the truth about her status. That makes no sense. What about her latest CD4 count, periodic checks on other investigations to ascertain if there are side effects to the drugs etc. How did she manage to remain stable up until this point without ever been in a clinic and being monitored by a doctor?
Like I said, there are holes in this story but it makes for an interesting read and most importantly draws attention to HIV in children and its attendant negative social effects. So well done.
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What if father and child were infected by the mother ..she had discovered her status and abandoned her marriage leaving the child behind ..
There are a lot of ways one can get infected and for this case we don't know how ..
I will definitely rule out the father defiling his daughter in this case ..
They may as well share razor blades , nail cutters .knife etc
DrAda: Sad story but there are holes in it. I find it hard to believe that she was born with HIV, only to be discovered at 8 years of age. That is practically impossible as the disease would have advanced so much so that i don't expect her to be alive without anti-retroviral drugs.
Which begs the next question, if she was infected much later, how did she get it? Was she sexually abused by the dad who is also HIV positive or transfused at some point with his blood? Did they share sharps?
The story about the grandmother just handing her drugs is also unbelievable. Where was she getting the drugs from? I know for certain that she didn't buy it because they are expensive so she must have gotten them for free from a hospital.
Which begs the next question, who on earth in an hospital environment will give HIV drugs to a healthy person for a sick person? Or did the grandmother take some of the dad's meds to give the child. If so, how did the dad convince the health care providers the reason his medications were finishing so quickly. I would have suspected that he was selling the drugs and flagged him from getting any further drugs.
And then finally, when she went to the hospital to collect her drugs as a teenager (several years later), she learnt the truth about her status. That makes no sense. What about her latest CD4 count, periodic checks on other investigations to ascertain if there are side effects to the drugs etc. How did she manage to remain stable up until this point without ever been in a clinic and being monitored by a doctor?
Like I said, there are holes in this story but it makes for an interesting read and most importantly draws attention to HIV in children and its attendant negative social effects. So well done.
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Children born with HIV infection rarely have symptoms for the first few months even if they have not initiated PEP post exposure prophylaxis for children or received antiretroviral therapy (ART).
If the children remain untreated, symptoms usually develop at about age 3 years, but some children may not develop symptoms or opportunistic infection until age 5 while some can stay till 8 years .
If the mother has got a good viral load of less than 100 and good cd4 of over 400 the child may not present HIV opportunistic infection till much later .
Also a well nourished and well fed child won't even present HIV symptoms till much later like the ages mentioned above .
Note that our bodies differ from one individual to the other so there are always exemption cases most especially in medicine .
So there are cases where the infant at less than 6 months can present HIV especially when there is no pmtct, malnourishment and malnutrition .also play a huge role .
Fir someone who has gotten a viral load of 350,000 and cd4 of 80 u can't expect the child to come out good except she gives birth thought pmtct .
If such patient gives birth through traditional birth attendants or a hospital that is not experienced in HIV and PEP is not initiated the child risk to is very high.
DrAda: Sad story but there are holes in it. I find it hard to believe that she was born with HIV, only to be discovered at 8 years of age. That is practically impossible as the disease would have advanced so much so that i don't expect her to be alive without anti-retroviral drugs.
Which begs the next question, if she was infected much later, how did she get it? Was she sexually abused by the dad who is also HIV positive or transfused at some point with his blood? Did they share sharps?
The story about the grandmother just handing her drugs is also unbelievable. Where was she getting the drugs from? I know for certain that she didn't buy it because they are expensive so she must have gotten them for free from a hospital.
Which begs the next question, who on earth in an hospital environment will give HIV drugs to a healthy person for a sick person? Or did the grandmother take some of the dad's meds to give the child. If so, how did the dad convince the health care providers the reason his medications were finishing so quickly. I would have suspected that he was selling the drugs and flagged him from getting any further drugs.
And then finally, when she went to the hospital to collect her drugs as a teenager (several years later), she learnt the truth about her status. That makes no sense. What about her latest CD4 count, periodic checks on other investigations to ascertain if there are side effects to the drugs etc. How did she manage to remain stable up until this point without ever been in a clinic and being monitored by a doctor?
Like I said, there are holes in this story but it makes for an interesting read and most importantly draws attention to HIV in children and its attendant negative social effects. So well done.
I would respond to ur questions paragraph by paragraph
You're looking for a way to justify your selfishness, you want to compare Lagos and ibadan, so because ibadan drivers are delivering 60k with a CNG vehicle, same thing should be applied to Lagos state?
with this your mentality, I don't even expect any car owner or investor to take you seriously, someone on this same thread is on HP delivering 80k weekly on Hire Purchase for a gas vehicle and he's meeting up smoothly but you on the other hand want CNG vehicle and still want to deliver 60k..
Thank God say Na talk dey bring talk .
I am interested in the 80k hire purchase for CNG
Hire purchase at 80k weekly is better than weekly remittance of 50/60 k
Luxurydriverng: Who here has experienced e-hailing in any other city outside Lagos?
Lagos is a very hostile place to drivers.
My driving experience in Ibadan has been pretty pleasant, we have a few drivers on weekly remittance of 60k weekly with CNG though and to my surprise they are always meeting up ontime with no excuses.
To highlight the cool side of driving in Ibadan; No traffic only on rare occasions and never compared to Lagos traffic.
No touts to harass you incase of a breakdown.
No need for Lasdri, and other documents required of rideshare drivers in Lagos.
The train service has improved the business in Ibadan.
In a nutshell if you are feeling tired of Lagos and you have the flexibility to explore a new city, I think you should try experiencing Ibadan
Thus wasn't promotion but an appearance as guest on the Charly boy show ..
The reason why the camera crew went to festac to shoot that video was because Charly boys house was always full of upcoming artiste wanting to make their mark ..
Especially on Saturdays and being that they were already celebrities having released their first album under Nelson brown music label their appearance in his house would have caused commotion ..
Funny thing was that it was only in festac town that the plantation boys were not getting fans frenzy maybe cos stars full festac back then or no one sends you ...
For those who have followed plantasiun boys it all began from their IMT days in Enugu ..
Then.thry came to Lagos and we started seeing them appear on Ray power grandslam and other underground hip hop events
Note : it was just 2face and blackface then ..
Then sometime in 98 or 99 I saw faze join them on AIT JAMZ and they performed plantasiun boys on set ..
Chidimercy: Please I need your inputs, can I transport a new car from Lagos to East without plate number. A car that is newly imported (foreign used) but yet to het a license plate. I need suggestions. And if not, how long would it take me to get a lagos license plate?
You must settle even.all.papers are intact
U will get delayed on the road if the vehicle is newly registered because police know new number plates ..
U would even get delayed more with a new number plate than unlicensed vehicle that the driver knows his way .
To.mimimise road expenses get someone who is involved in taking vehicles to the east ..
The driver may charge u outright for his service and road expenses ..
If he settles less it's not yet concern ..
The driver may also tell u to be the one paying when u get to checkpoint ..
The surest way to.minimize road expenses is by leaving Lagos by 10:30pm..
U can be following a fast moving luxury bus bumper to bumper
Na I'm go dey clear road for you ..
Or u can drive at ur own speed
U have less police officers and other government agents on the road at that time of the night ....
From Edo State to Onitsha head bridge Na vigilante full road for night as against police ..
During the day once u pass ijebuode Na so so police ..
So most people move at night
But the customs at ijebu ode , Benin and Asaba will never miss u ..
Krak: I accidentally discovered a black local pot inside the ceiling of my apartment. And after deep thinking I realized things have been going downhill for me ever since I packed into the house just over a year ago.
After doing my digging, I discovered the landlord used to live in the apartment and every single tenant that lived in this apartment since the landlord left it always packed out dirt poor.
Now I am getting ready to leave this place within the next one month despite the fact that my rent still runs till next year.
Some landlords are really evil.
Thank God u discovered it on time ..
Especially these days that we have yahoo landlords
I know some and I have read comments here on nairaland concerning their landlords like the once who made a post about their landlord asking all the tenants not to pay a year rent to cushion the effects of this harsh economy
Health › Re: Read This Before You Judge Me: I’m 20, and HIV Positive. by Lifenajeje2(m): 1:52pm On Sep 25, 2025
