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Whitesnow01:You said my point has "no gel," but you took the time to try and scrape it off your shoe. Obviously it stuck with you. Jokes aside, my initial point was never about how significant my sole vote was, but about the collective power of the audience's choice. In shows like BBNaija, the housemates' "performance" or "personality" is simply the catalyst. Their actions are merely content for the true deciders -- the viewers. A housemate's role is to provide the narrative, but it's the audience's subjective preferences, their collective likes and dislikes, loyalty, support etc that ultimately determine the winner. The housemate doesn't win because they are "the best". They win because they are the one most people were motivated to vote for, for whatever reasons those voters may have. I never needed my vote to matter to Laycon or the other housemates, or to the general public. It was a personal choice, informed by my personal reasons. You seem to think every individual action MUST have a grand, public consequence for it to be valid. |
Centwizzy13:I understand. Of course they had their reasons. But those reasons were still personal (arbitrary), and therefore not always indicative of objective standards. Some fans look for intellect. Some look for beauty (aesthetics). Some look for entertainment. Some look for drama. Some look for ships, and so on. As a housemate, there's no telling what people will like you or hate you for. Such things are beyond your control. Finally, it seems you've already agreed with me that it's the fans that have the power to enthrone a winner and not the housemate themselves, and so I believe my point here is made. |
Geezeem:People here just don't understand how BBNaija is played. Our version of Big Brother is based on the OG Dutch and British versions where popularity carries the day. This isn't the American or Canadian version where your smarts and wits take you to the finals. In our version, it's the audience that carries the game. If the audience loves and receives you, no Jupiter can stop you from glory. If the audience no send you or your papa, o pari That's why, as fans, we have the biggest responsibility actually, when it comes to who wins. From the British to the Nigerian version, and every other version that use public votes, I've seen all types of BB winners. From dullards to geniuses, from boring to entertaining etc, |
Centwizzy13:I definitely didn't vote him because of his "competitiveness". LoL. Competition wise, Laycon was decent to average. Among the Lockdown finalists, Laycon was the only one I could bring myself to vote for, and it's because I hated the other finalists at the time. I hated Nengi and Dorothy for obvious reasons. And I hated Neo and Vee because they played and cheated Ozo out of the finals -- which by the way, was masterful gameplay. Credit to them. As for Laycon, I had no feelings towards him, good or bad. I really voted him just to spite the others. My records are here. I can pull up the comment I made back then when I said I wanted Laycon to give the others the biggest gap of their lives. So I didn't vote Laycon for personality or competition reasons. But let's even assume I voted him because I liked his personality -- that aspect of the game is subjective because it's my own preference. I might like a housemate you don't like and vice versa. So whenever you guys bring up this performance or personality stuff when it comes to winning BBNaija, you guys sound so clueless. Anyway, the point of my argument to Christlike is that Laycon didn't win BBN because he did anything special. He won because of love and support from his fans. He had arguably one of the most dominant fanbases, even till date. So there's that. I can move on from this argument when you guys are ready. |
Christlike01:Nope. It's the facts. In BBNaija, winners are decided by the public vote. Not gameplay. I have a completely different take, and nothing about your view makes it superior to mine.Then you're simply out of touch with the reality. I'm not telling you "my view", im telling you real life. If you disagree, then that's your prerogative. But you'll be disagreeing with reality itself. There's no need for a back-and-forth; it simply doesn’t make sense.You're right, there's no need. That's why I'm surprised that I'm here pointing out facts that I thought were obvious. I honestly can't understand why you think it's acceptable to impose your opinion on others. It comes across as quite primitive to insist that everyone must share your perspective on the matter.I'm not telling you my opinion. I'm not telling you lies. I am telling you a bare-faced fact that you guys are strangely disputing for reasons best known to you. Please, take a step back—Laycon was crowned the winner of the season for a reason.Yes, because he had the HIGHEST number of votes. His performance, personality, and overall impact clearly set him apart, placing him above every other housemate, Ozo included.None of this qualifies as a reason for why he won the show. If that was the case, Kuture would have more likely been the frontrunner for this current season over people like Imisi or Koyin. The problem you guys have is that you don't understand how BBNaija is played. It's not the housemates that play the game -- it's the FANS. The AUDIENCE. YOU literally have the power to make or break ANY housemate in the show. We've had real entertainers come here and go home empty handed because they don't even have one soul rooting for them in the Nigerian public. Funny thing is I even voted for Laycon to win in the final week after Ozo left. I went all out for him, so you guys can dead the narrative that I'm just bashing him, cos I'm not. No matter how good or bad you think Laycon's game was, that's not what earned him the money. It was the loyalty and support of his fans. He wasn't special in that house, and that's just the truth. Kindly note that you won’t be getting any further response from me on this topic.Yes, please stop. You don't have a point to argue. I don't engage in pointless arguments.You don't have any "points", that's why this discussion is "pointless". |
Christlike01:Laycon was crowned the winner because he was more popular with the audience and got the highest number of votes. Not because he was objectively better than anyone else in that house. This isn't Big Brother USA or Survivor. |
Bobodee09:Yes, they're both first class, but clearly there's a spectrum. If we go by your logic then there was really nothing special about Laycon during Lockdown because there was NOTHING he did that was faaaaaar better than what others were doing. Is it rapping? Tochi was also a rapper Is it entertainment? Trikytee, Neo, Praise and Prince were equally as entertaining, or arguably more. Is it tasks? Laycon was average overall. I haven't even started talking about Kiddwaya's oratory skills and versatile knowledge. Kiddwaya played a huge role in majority of the group tasks he was in. Same with Prince. Same with Nengi to an extent. They were all within the same ballpark. My point is even if you want to call them both first class, you still have to remember that first class is a spectrum. Yes 4.50 CGPA isn't 5.0 CGPA, but there's a reason why one is higher than the other even if they're both first class. |
Bobodee09:You see, the bolded is a blatant lie. This is what I'm saying - you guys have started to revise history. I blame AfricaMagic for not having detailed video records of competition highlights during the show, else we won't even be having this conversation. Ozo had far more individual comp wins than Laycon. Majority of Laycon's wins were group wins. I can't even remember many task where Laycon won as an individual. It probably wasn't more than 2. His successes were always tied to whichever group they were in. HOH wins? Ozo had more than Laycon. Arena wins? Ozo had more than Laycon. Ozo was freaking creative too, don't get it twisted. I was just giving Laycon props. Ozo still blew him out of the water in every category. Laycon was just more visible and all over the place. I think Ozo's calm and under-the-radar demeanor during Lockdown is what is causing you people to criminally sell him short after 5 years. |
Bobodee09:Laycon was intelligent. I didn't argue that, but Ozo was simply more intelligent. That's all. Laycon's intelligence was more on the creative side, coming up with ideas for tasks and stuff like that. But if we want to talk about academic knowledge, overall general knowledge and intuitive intelligence, Ozo was an alien in that house. Many people didn't understand him most of the time. There was a period during the show where the only people who really engaged Ozo in long conversations were Nengi and Neo. Among other things, Ozo's intellect is what made me stan him during Lockdown. I remember I didn't pick a fave then until like the 4th or 5th week. When I think of Laycon intelligence-wise, I think more of Adekunle or Hermes. They were bright sure, but that's not what made them stand out in the house. Laycon was more known for his playfulness and being entertaining. Intelligence was not a defining aspect of his persona throughout that season. Ozo's biggest flaw in Lockdown was his social game. Socially, he was inept. |
FIGARO00:Dem talk say Laycon intelligent pass Ozo. LoL. |
Dotez:Baba the kind shock wey hold me when I read am. Ozoemena? 😂😂😂 |
scondy:Dotez and Threebear dem. Abeg make una come o. These guys want to pull the wool over our eyes. 5 years is a long time ago, but I still remember everything perfectly like it was yesterday. 😂 As a matter of fact, I vividly remember one occasion where Ozo and Laycon were in the same group during a task and Ozo was saying a lot of stuff that kept flying over Laycon's head. Laycon, and I think Nengi had to beg baba to calm down and take it slowly. 😂😂 I don't know about other housemates, but babe, when it comes to intelligence, nobody was touching Ozo in Lockdown season. Laycon was more on Kiddwaya and Prince level, although slightly better. Just stop. |
scondy:🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢 Ozo's only match till date when it comes to intelligence -- and I mean intuitive, academic intelligence and overall knowledge on abstract subjects is Daniella from Level Up. Stop. Ozo had far better track record when it came to individual tasks. The majority of Laycon's wins were group related tasks that required teamwork. I remember that set vividly. Don't try to pull any revisionist narratives because I remember clearly. Laycon didn't even have a single HOH win. The only time he saw the HOH lounge was because of Trikytee in the third to last week. I won't argue with you for the rest, but you see that intelligence? Forget. Laycon wasn't even brighter than Ozo's shadow. |
Manfromlasvegas:Bro you just cut to the heart of the matter. This is what drove me away from the show unfortunately. The public voting format no longer appeals to me. And as much as I want the power to shift to the housemates, I'm also very aware that it will be detrimental to the show's ratings. These are points I've made here during the last two seasons. That's why Big Brother needs to be careful with how he executes this twist. I can only hope that another reality show can come along that will satisfy my cravings for actual and intentional gameplay, not these scripted and predictable plot points and narratives and boring ships every season. This game format is no longer for me. It was cool for Pepper Dem and Lockdown and Shine Ya Eye when I was reaally invested into BBN. But now it just feels repetitive and formulaic to me. The only reason I even commented here was because I saw the new twist and was curious what it was all about. I will say though, I'm happy at least... that the organizers are intentional about infusing a bit of competition into the house. They deserve some credit there. |
Manfromlasvegas:Very good point, but this actually brings us back to the same problem I highlighted last season. I think I argued this thing with Safarigirl or someone else last year. Viewer voting has undeniably been a non-negotiable part of the show. That's why I've previously argued that public voting and intentional strategic housemate gameplay are fundamentally incompatible. As long as the public has the final say on who is evicted every week, the housemates will still be playing a popularity game to win over the audience which, as I've explained in the past, is a nearly impossible game to play because of the sentimental nature of the BBNaija fanbase. The competition and tasks and all else is fine. But at the end of the day, the unpredictability and a-logical nature of the voting audience will always dictate the pace of the game, strategies be damned. Your idea of giving the "most entertaining" housemate immunity is cool but it doesn't really alter the power dynamics. The housemate who wins that immunity is safe for a week, but their ultimate fate is still in the hands of the voting public. A truly strategic or competitive player will still be at a significant disadvantage against a fan favorite, no matter how poorly the fan favorite performs in tasks or how little they contribute to the house. That's why I don't think the show can have it both ways. It's either you play a game where the most strategic and active player wins, or it's just a popularity contest where the most beloved contestant prevails and gameplay is irrelevant. In my opinion, Big Brother should just decide if he wants to keep public voting or if he wants to cede agency to the housemates. He just can't have it both ways. I would have gone in-depth on how Biggie has tried this method before during All Stars and how it failed, but this post is long enough as it is. If you're interested though, I'll speak more on that. |
I need a Nigerian version of this show so badly. No forced ships, no sentiments, no lazying your way to the money etc. Just pure wits, intellect and strategy
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DGOODLYF:This particular statement is very instructive. My fear with this new format is that if weekly evictions is still determined by the audience, then it directly contradicts and undermines Big Brother's goal of favoring entertaining housemates. Basically, bandwagons can still prevail. The only way this new format can work is if Big Brother cedes full control to the housemates. As long as the public is involved, this format simply can't work because the viewing majority will vote with sentiments either way. Or does Biggie plan to carry housemates who get low scores from their housemates to the finals based on public votes... Only to go home empty handed, or worse off than their peers who left weeks prior? In that case, what would even be the point of evictions, LoL? |
As someone who has been actively criticizing the way winners in this game are determined via public voting which is overruled by emotions and bandwagons instead of gameplay/strategy, I have to say that I'm liking the new twist a bit. I'll give credit where it's due because the twist seems entirely original and unlike anything I've seen in other Big Brother versions I've watched. At least now the role of sentimental bandwagon voters will be reduced to an extent. And I support the emphasis on competition. This new system will definitely force these housemates to be constantly active and strategic. No more lazying about and granting people special status based on nothing. And I like the fact that it's happening with this set because in my opinion, these set of housemates have a lot of potential when it comes to drama and gbas gbos. If executed correctly, this new format could turn the house upside down. Alright Big Brother, you win. You've managed to gain back my interest in the show... for this season at least. Some things are still unclear to me about the new twist/format though, and I don't know if anyone here will be kind enough to answer because I didn't watch when he was making the announcement: 1. How does the weekly "Most Influential" title impact the final prize money? Is it cumulative or does it give an advantage in the finale? And how do the weekly scores contribute? 2. When it comes to evictions? Who determines who goes home? Is it still the public? The housemates? Biggie himself? |
If there's anything that will make this year another painfully dry season, it will be the organizers and their complete lack of creativity. This fake eviction script is so overdone, it's sad that this remains our best twist in big 2025, and it's just as predictable every time (first week). If I'm in that house I'll be sleeping comfortably this week. I've watched these housemates for the past couple of days and I'm already seeing so much more potential with this set compared to the previous edition, but will the organizers make good use of what they have? The housemates can only do so much to be entertaining. The organizers have to set the stage for chaos too. Oh well. |
BankyGee:I get choice? 😭😭😭 Even at those moments when I have a feeling we'll play nonsense, I'm still very interested to watch SE games. Can't explain it. Probably childhood conditioning. 😂😂 Nice to see you still very active though. I don't see a lot of our Marvel/DC threads alumnis anywhere else. |
BankyGee:"Putin balls for their net", mad man 😂😂 How far bro? Long time. One of your sworn enemies that year from the Marvel and DC threads. 😎 |
Inspirer1:Wickedness is your name. 😂😂😂😂 |
DeepSight:Gyat dayum!! 🔥🔥🔥 |
GOFRONT:Nairaland tho... 💀 |
franvincoop:This one choke. |
Damn! I'm technically Gen-Z but my dad used to have plenty of her tapes and vinyls back when I was young. Together with Al Green, Peabo Bryson, Amy Grant and others. Sad to hear. R.I.P |
It's actually disturbing the way some people reason at times. |
jaephoenix:Guy no be small thing. Sometimes I wonder if I'm being biased because of my worldview or if that's the actual reality, but ever since I started reading religious debates on NL it always feels like the Christians are more bigoted, ignorant, irrational, arrogant, eccentric, quick to insult, mock, and usually just sound so full of shit thinking they know more than everybody, and must always have the last word. They just come across as borderline psychotic sometimes. I can't think of many atheists that fit the description above. Most atheists I know are curious, honest, calm, and even try to compromise in arguments and find a common ground. We also lack the patience to entertain theist stupidity and go back and forth for lengthy periods of time. There are outliers in both camps obviously, but it's just a general pattern I've noticed and it's a big testament of the damage religion can do to our ability to think critically. |
LordReed:This Seraphic dude reminds me of one crazy apologist on this website called o.a.r.o.l.o.y.e. Sorry. Had to butcher the name so as not to summon the wild dog LoL. |
Don't know if you're a failure, but you're an attention seeker tho. |
LordReed:I never see person wey foolish like that guy. |
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