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Romance › Re: Letter To My Future Wife by Luckysbab: 5:25pm On Jul 03, 2024 |
kemiola89: LMAO @ 22 adults running after a ball for 90mins. Guess one man's poison is another man's food. Interesting piece. Aunty Kemi, are you still on this space? |
Islam › Re: Revisiting Monarch's influence on Imam selection in Yorubaland by Luckysbab: 10:25am On Jun 29, 2024 |
madridguy: It is me that is wasting my time with someone like you. Since asking you for Quranic verse or chapter for your claim is now wasting of time, then you need to go back to madrasah. Say, “Obey Allah and obey the messenger. But if you turn away, then on him (the messenger) lies (the responsibility of) what he is burdened with, and on you lies (the responsibility of) what you are burdened with. And if you obey him, you will get the right path. The duty of the Messenger is no more than to convey the message clearly.” Surah An Nur, Qur'an 24:54 |
Sports › Re: Court Of Arbitration Clears Tobi Amusan by Luckysbab: 10:07pm On Jun 28, 2024 |
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Islam › Re: Revisiting Monarch's influence on Imam selection in Yorubaland by Luckysbab: 10:06pm On Jun 28, 2024 |
madridguy: Back up your claim with Quranic verse and stop saying jargons. The one I quoted is what? It seems I might be wasting my time on someone who doesn't know something as basic as the Qur'an and Sunnah being the two main sources of legislation in Islam. Dey play with sand dey go, bro. |
Islam › Re: Revisiting Monarch's influence on Imam selection in Yorubaland by Luckysbab: 10:04pm On Jun 28, 2024 |
Christlike01: Not only 'CAN head's,even if it is Pope,as long as he is living in a Yoruba town,the Pope is under the authority of the Oba of that town. He has to relocate to Rome if he can't subject himself to the authority of the Oba. Oba ki pe meji laafin;there can't be two Captains in a ship! The Oba is the only known Representative of the 'Alaales',the ancestral owners of the land/town. A typical Oba in Yoruba land is not a Muslim or Christian;he is a traditionalist!
Soun or any Oba has nothing to do with the itineraries of whatever 'CAN head' or Imam, the Obas are not jobless to be so concerned with such frivolity. The truth however remains that the 'CAN head' or chief Imam is under the authority of the Oba as long as they choose to live in his town. That is a simple fact;a tradition which supercedes any foreign religion- Christianity or Islam.
I'm a full-blooded royal,I won't tolerate any insubordination in my domain - be it from any Imam or 'CAN head'! The 'Alaales' will make the town so hot and unlivable for you that you won't know when you will relocate to Saudi Arabia or Rome, Italy. Stop mixing up issues. The current palava is about the Imam going on pilgrimage "without permission from the Oba". Do the Christian heads need to take permission to travel to Rome or Jerusalem? |
Islam › Re: Revisiting Monarch's influence on Imam selection in Yorubaland by Luckysbab: 6:03pm On Jun 28, 2024 |
madridguy: This disunity among us " Muslim " is the cause of everything. It's you that has chosen to be confused. Imām al-Barbahārī (rahimahullāh, died 329 AH) stated: “Know that Allah’s Messenger (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) said: “My ummah will divide into 73 sects, all of them will be in the Fire except for one, and that is the Jamā’ah.” It was said, “And who are they, O Allah’s Messenger?” He (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) responded, “That which I and my Companions are upon today.” https://abukhadeejah.com/this-ummah-will-divide-into-73-sects-shaykh-al-fawzan-explains-what-it-means/ |
Islam › Re: Revisiting Monarch's influence on Imam selection in Yorubaland by Luckysbab: 6:01pm On Jun 28, 2024 |
Christlike01: Oba ba l'ori ohun gbogbo n'ile Yoruba! The Oba is the owner of his town, and all the people therein are his subjects according to the tradition of the Yoruba people. Imams, Alfas, and Pastors are alien to Yoruba culture and tradition. It is, therefore, unacceptable for any Imam or Pastor to think he is not under the authority of a Yoruba Oba in Yoruba land! The highest authority in a typical Yoruba family compound is the Baa'le (family compound head), and such a Baa'le reports directly to the Oba; he is under the authority of the Oba.
In Yoruba land, we all come from our different individual family compounds with the Baa'le as the head of each individual family compound. So, whether Imam, Alfa, or Pastor, you're under the authority of that Baa'le, who reports the affairs of the compound to the Oba, who is the head of the town. Even if the Imam or Pastor is the Baa'le of his family compound, he is still under the authority of the Oba, who is the representative of the Alaale - the ancestral owners of the land/town.
The truth is, the Chief Imam of Ogbomoso is under the Soun of Ogbomoso, and so is the Bishop of the town. They (the Chief Imam and Bishop) are both under the authority of the Oba of Ogbomoso. Ogbomoso is a traditional Yoruba land founded purely on Yoruba tradition and culture. Any Imam who thinks he is not under the authority of a Yoruba king in his domain may have to relocate to Saudi Arabia. The same goes for any Pastor or Bishop who wrongly thinks he is bigger than an Oba in his domain. Such a Pastor or Bishop may have to take his religious activities to Rome, Italy.
Religion and tradition are not the same. Every inch of Yoruba land belongs to the "Alaales," who have been chosen by God Almighty to see to the affairs of their different individual domains. The Obas are the representatives of these "Alaales" in each Yoruba land today.
Any attempt to use religion to cause division or trouble in Yoruba land will be fiercely resisted. Ogbomoso is under the radar of the concerned Yoruba youths and elders, who will not be swayed by any religious sentiment in dealing with those who are fanning the flames of discord in that town. You mean the CAN head comes to take permission from the Soun to travel? |
Islam › Re: Revisiting Monarch's influence on Imam selection in Yorubaland by Luckysbab: 5:59pm On Jun 28, 2024 |
IamNat: And I can't but wonder why you guys are pained that Toliat was quarried, it's all over the internet, the video showing when Toliat was been installed as the chief Imam in the Soun's palace, in front of the Soun himself, his staff of office was given by Soun himself, on countless occasions, before the new Soun was installed, Toliat himself has said it that it is only Sòún that can impeach and remove him as Chief Imam, he even said it that he's one of Soun's workers, so what's all the noise about? A Christian Soun will not dictate Islamic doctrines to the Muslim community. Or was the Muslim Soun dictating to the Christian community how they should run their faith? |