Lukgaf: THE NEED TO REVISIT THE INFLUENCE OF TRADITIONAL RULERS IN THE APPOINTMENT OF IMAM IN YORUBALAND - By Qaasim Odedeji
There is a Yoruba adage: 'aye là ba'fa, ayé làbá imole, lọsan gangan n'igbagbọ wọlé dé '. This adage confirms the existence of Islam in Yorùbá land long time ago before the coming of European colonial masters who brought Christianity to Nigeria.
It is not unusual that almost in all the major towns in Yorùbá land, central mosques exist side by side with the palaces.
History has it that the earliest Muslims in many of Yorùbá towns and cities were either invited by the traditional rulers who were Muslims or they were accepted and given spaces closed to the palaces to build their mosques in order to live close to the Obas. This, because of the respect the traditional rulers had for such Alfas and the spiritual powers they believed they were possessed of. Such Alfas eventually served as spiritual guides and advisors for the Obas.
Some of such traditional rulers who accepted Islam later became the vanguards of Islamic propagation in their domains. Examples of such traditional rulers who became promoters of Islam in their domains are Oba Memudu Lagunju who ruled as Timi of Ede and Oba Momodu Lamuye who ruled as Oluwo. The two of them implemented Sharia law in their towns; Ede and Iwo and as well established Shari'a court for that purpose.
It was this synergies between the Yoruba Obas in Yoruba towns and mutual respect between them that culminated into the influence the Yoruba traditional rulers have had in who become the Chief Imams of the cities and towns.
Despite this fact, the respect between the Obas and Imams was mutual. The earlier Yorùbá traditional rulers held the Chief Imams in high esteem and hence, the popular statement, 'alfa ni Bàbá Ọba' i.e, Islamic Clerics are the fathers of Kings. The Imams in those days were highly respected by all and sundry. There was no incidence of an Oba purporting to dethrone an Imam for whatever reason whatsoever.
It is therefore a great absurdity when today the incidence of Obas imposition of anybody, qualified or not qualified as well as attempts to dethrone Imams on the excuse that he who hires can fire has become so rampant.
The absurd practice on appointment of Chief Imams have become so far and embarrassing that if the office of Imam and Oba is vacant, filling of the vacant position of the Chief Imam has to wait until the Oba is appointed no matter how long. An example of this is the office of the Chief Imam of Oyo that has remained vacant due to the vacancy in the office of Alaafin of Oyo.
Some years back, the Timi of Ede, Oba Munirudeen Adesola Lawal, Laminisa 1 took some steps to suspend the Chief Imam of Ede for a reason that is only political until the intervention of well meaning individuals and groups in and outside of Ede. This kind of action is embarrassing not only to the office of the Chief Imam but the entire Muslims.
It then becomes more embarrassing when such Oba is a Christian like the current issue between the Soun of Ogbomoso, a Christian pastor and Chief Imam of Ogbomosoland, Sheikh Taliat Yunus where the former purportedly issued a query to the latter for daring to make a pilgrimage to hajj which is a fundamental aspect of Islam without his permission. Perhaps, one day, Oba ghandi will want the Chief Imam to seek for his permission before performing salat.
It needs to be stated without doubt that the position of an Imam is a purely Islamic position guided by the Shari'a. It is not a chieftaincy matter guided by Chiefs law of States. Therefore, the appointment and discipline of Imams, if necessary, should be in accordance with the Shari'a.
While it may not be out of place to involve the traditional rulers in the ceremony that follows the appointment of Imams in Yorubaland, the appointment needs to be strictly done by the Muslim Community of the town through a shurah committee.
Finally, Yoruba Obas should accord the Chief Imams their well-deserved respect, honour and dignity as it used to be between the Obas and Imams of the olden days.
Qaasim Odedeji
Dear Christians can you see why we need to disregard this swearing and contribute to Islamic threads, they want to propagate lies and keep you from fighting it technically and capitalise on our peaceful nature.
Can you hear the mumu o.p proverb?
"Why do you people like shifting the goal post all the time. When you were enjoying the benefits of the throne of the Yoruba kings, you didn't realize that Imamship is a Sharia thing right?
I'm not against you people reviewing how you choose your Imam and how you do it, if Imamship will no longer be attached to the Obaship of a certain town, then, it means that, office of the Chief Imam will not be for a specific family again, it also means that the office will not be exclusively for a citizen of that particular town i.e someone from iwo can be chief imam in Ogbomoso and vice versa.
By so doing, it will be obvious that it's not a chieftaincy thing, unfortunately, you all lack the power to do these things because tradition is tradition already. The Chief Imam in Ogbomoso in his letter of appointment had signed that before he will leave his duty post, he will notify the Soun throne, also before he will appoint a representative for himself, he will seek the consent of the Soun throne but now that a Christian is the king, he finds it difficult to fulfill his agreement, he forgets that his loyalty of appointment is to the throne of Soun not to the personality of the king."
Christains should know how to unite and use the law and media.
We must start forming cohesion because I know that you can not see Muric do same if the table are turned. The pastor should have used the law and authority instead.
A mosque has been disturbing my street with Noise until I reported them to the authority. Before they stopped.
Babatunde45: As-salamu Alaykum, Mu’minina wal Mu’minat Good morning, my daddies, mothers, brothers, and sisters in Islam.
Please, I need your help Sir/Ma.
My name is Tunde. I am 32 yrs old and an O-Level holder. I had a car accident last year, lost my job, and became jobless for months.
I'm begging everyone in the name of Almighty Allah. Please help me; I am seriously hungry. The last time I ate was Saturday evening, and it was my remaining garri that I drank. I have not eaten any other food since Saturday evening other than the water that I have been drinking to gain some strength. I can no longer endure the hunger; my body is starting to shake. Please, my people, I am really sorry for begging, but it is just that I am starving to death. Please, someone should help me with something to eat, no matter the amount. I don't mind. I will always appreciate you. I am starving. I know things are very hard these days. Anything you have to spare, I would really appreciate.
I live at No 29, Kajola Street, Bode.Olude, Ita.Elega, Abeokuta, Ogun State.
If you live near me, please invite me for lunch; I am beginning to feel pain in my stomach. May you never lack the good things in life. I'm begging you in the name of Almighty Allah, Please have mercy on me and help me.
My phone number is 0 8 1 7 1 8 5 1 8 8 8
Please help me with any amount, #1000 will do a lot for me at this time.
Please, my bank details are:
Access Bank PLC 0 0 2 4 8 6 9 3 2 3 My name is Tunde
May Allah Subhanna Wataala continue to bless you and your family. Ameen
I cannot pull that one off due to her knowledge of my position at my workplace. The only prank I can play now is to claim that I have bee relieved of my job.
That is even more difficult,just do one to prune her spending and get good friends...to counsel you on life. She is most likely not in love with you.
And again,conduct DNA of ur kids discreetly oooooo
Exceptional300: I’m seriously thinking of this as well. I don’t want to be caught in any complexities
No mumuooo,set out to start monitoring her ovulation period and at that time pump your sperms repeatedly,if by 6 good month she can't get pregnant then think again about the marriage. If she does,wed her and redo another with 2 years.
No let emotions turn you to mumuoooo,she'll be doing worst if ur one of your testes are gone.
Wait,Why not test her that you are having a kidney issue and see if she can do same for you
ruffhandu: Hello people, Please I need some advice. We live in PH, and have 4 kids. The oldest is 10 while the youngest is 6. I give my wife 700k every month, and this includes general upkeep and maintenace and fuelling of our car (Lexus 330). I don't drive the car (I dey leg, while she uses it to run around, which includes school runs and her business).
I no dey chuk eye for her business. Bu I am getting frustrated as she still makes me believe that the money is not enough. I pay electricity bill (band A) and house rent (3m pa) yet every now and then she puts bills on my head. It is driving me crazy.
When I tell her to list out her expenses so I plan with her, she picks offence. I am really tired of the whole thing and don't know how else to approach the issue without causing too much problem. I know some men whose salaries are 250k-300k in PH, yet they are surviving.
You are playing with fire if what you said is true. You need to man up and act like yoy6 have been converted to contract staff due to the prevailing economic condition .You should come home with a sealed letter that confirms the conversion from a staff to contract,fully stamped signed by the management. Then half of that money should be cut off for strictly savings if what you are saying is true.
You are not only doing yourelf Good by saving more but also preparing the wife ,kids and extended for any eventualities that might happen in the future.
The wife and kids won't be able to handle live if you lose job or sickness comes.
GistMedia0: A man has taken to the internet to share his experience of living with a visual artist, revealing how his home has been transformed into a vibrant art studio. The video, which has quickly gone viral, shows every nook and cranny of his house filled with his wife's artwork and painting supplies.
In the footage, the husband humorously narrates the challenges of marrying a visual artist, stating, "To marry a visual artist is no easy task; my house has turned into a shrine." The video pans across various rooms, showcasing canvases, paintbrushes, and vibrant paintings scattered everywhere, from the living room to the kitchen.
Halo22: I have been trying to contain my disgust over the life threatening lifestyle of my landlord and his house hold, but then, it has reached the brim. I would like to make the story short cos I humbly want to seek advice on the best way to tackle this issue at hand.
I live in an environment where we are not that populated in the compound. Every person or household minds his or her business in order to maintain peace and tranquility as well as oneness as was literally advised by the landlord in his preaching of novel peace which has completely been foiled by himself in particular. He has a wife with female children who are all adults. What still baffles me is how the daughters will end up being wives in future. That would be topic for a later day.
Fast forward to early this year, I noticed a leak in the pipe that connects to their own house's toilet and quickly alerted the wife on the need to fix it so it won't deteriorate. When I saw the woman couldn't do much to fix the breakage, I organized some of my neighbours, particularly men, to talk with the husband (landlord). Lo and behold, the man apologized for the inconveniences caused and promised to fix it Asap. Two months down the line in April, we politely met him again to remind him of the dangers of the odour that oozes out of the pit, he again promised to fix it and up until now, the pipe remains unfixed and has completely gone bad, emanating irritating odour all over the compound whenever it rains, mostly my own corner of the building.
At first, I thought about parking out of the compound, but I still have about 6 months' rent running and starting afresh to look for house, the stress, extra payment and all that are not worth engaging in right away. Please what is the best step to take in this situation considering the fact that the wife is a nice and considerate person, just that the husband influences her negatively. I don't want to have issues personally with them. I humbly ask please.
Infirm LASEPA if it's lagos or ministry of environment of your state.
People like you are the reason why this issue came up, we didnt need to swear before entering section on NL before. This all started when someone opened the dog cage and let you all out.
I am a christain from a christain home, son pf a Rev but you know what we Christains are the worst thing to happen to the religion section on Nairaland.
When has any Muslim entered the Christain section to insult Christ...
Seun Mynd44 Nlfpmod please someone should take care of this guy.
Who asked you Ali and simbi story??
The intellectually sound ones are the ones I was talking to not a chaffed mind.
Do you know that there us 50% subsidy on cars and tricycle and Motorcycle bought by indigenes in Burkina Faso?? Do you know that the masses love him? Do you know that they have 24hour electricity??
WE ARE NOT BROKE,THE GOVERNMENT HEADVIS THE ONE THAT NEED REPLACEMENT. IF AWOLOWO COULD DO THOSE MAGICS WITH COCOA MONEY,THEN THESE POLITICANS SHOULD BE SHOT.
FahBuLous: No need to cap much, bought that shit at 9h today..
I can't blame you ,maybe you lie alot that is why you allude that i do,lying to you can't fetch me a cash. The Threads was what made me to visit Bokku mart today(strictly because I know they sell at almost company price),FYI,I bought same product (that i bought at provision shop at 950naira) at680naira. I know that the disparity is unbelievable but that is who many of our retailers are,gaining 270naira over a 300gram milk is outrageous.
jumper524: how often do you see Muslims going to Christian treads just to spite the religion on this platform? But many even swear the oath just to insult Islam. Its shameful and thank goodness seun is an atheist. A perfect neutral judge to know the aggressor.
FahBuLous: Check jane juliet supermarket at ikot ekpene road, 247 supermarket or central supermarket at abak road, i just think things are cheaper there..
I stay less that two kìlometer to chi,The capped(biggest size)one is 950 naira.
Feelings79: I'm 44 years old and it's been my experience having married a baby mama for 8 years before it collapsed.The most pain is that the relationship between them and their kids daddy never ends, to the point the man keep fucking her before meeting any obligation to the baby
90% of of guys in marriage with one will tell him these.
*Most of these ladies are only pretending . *you and your kids will be her sub_priorities. *most are after seeking beast of burden and screw drivers not love. *The kids and his dad will be 50% of the causes of your fight. Ask people who had experienced it one on one ;your eye go open
Great. You are aware of that war in June of 1967, though I think you mean the 6-day war, because you also ask why Arab nations have been against the Jewish state since it's birth.
The answer to that question, I think can be found in the way in which the state of Israel was born. That's why I have referred to the history that predates the war in '67. For that you have to go all the way back to 1917. There really isn't the space and time to go into all the details here, but I can recommend a few materials. Which I am sure will be of help, if you will take the time.
I will also recommend Noam Chomsky's book, Gaza in Crisis - Reflections on Israel's war against the Palestinians
In chapter 2, page 38, paragraph 1, Prof. Chomsky writes ...
"However, the (US) state Department continued to refer to the 1948 ethnic cleansing of Palestine as the root cause of the conflict. Under it's guidance, the Palestinian right of return was the backbone of a new UN peace initiative attempted throughout 1949"
Again, in In chapter 3, page 60, paragraph 2 of Gaza in crisis he writes, and I quote:
"... On the other hand, 1948 also marked the worst chapter in Jewish history. In that year, Jews did in Palestine what Jews had not done anywhere else in the previous two thousand years. Even if one puts aside the historical debate about why what happened in 1948 in fact transpired, no one seems to question the enormity of the tragedy that befell the indigenous population of Palestine as a result of the emergence and the success of the Zionist movement. Jews expelled, massacred, destroyed and raped in that year, and generally behaved Iike all the other colonialist movements operating in the middle east and Africa since the beginning of the nineteenth century"
For clarity (and I think that is where most people, including most commentators here get it wrong) we need to separate between what it means to be Jewish, and what it means to be Israeli. There are Palestinian Jews, Christians and Muslims, just as there are Jews, Christians and Muslims in the state of Israel.
Then finally, you have to understand what it means to be Zionist. Hopefully then, everything will begin to make sense.
Thanks for your time
You are yet to answer the sane question,who started the enemity??
Islam for Muslims / Re: Revisiting Monarch's influence on Imam selection in Yorubaland by mamaafrik(m): 7:25pm On Jun 28
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The video pans across various rooms, showcasing canvases, paintbrushes, and vibrant paintings scattered everywhere, from the living room to the kitchen.