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lekzytaker:
What if it the season happens after marriage

If you constantly wonder where you stand with a woman, you already have your answer.

A woman who wants you makes it known. Not necessarily with words. With consistency. With presence.
With the way she shows up when it is inconvenient. With the way she speaks about you when you are not in the room.

A woman who keeps you guessing is not mysterious.
She is unavailable and chasing an unavailable woman is not romantic. It is self-punishment dressed as love.

The right woman will never make you feel like a burden.
She will never make you earn what she freely gives others.
She will never make you compete for basic respect.

You will know the right woman not by how she makes you feel when things are good but by how she treats you when things are difficult.
That is where character lives.

Stop chasing women who make you question your worth.
Start becoming the man the right woman cannot afford to lose.

There is a season every man must pass through before he arrives at the life he was built for.

It is the season where nothing is working. Where the money is not coming. Where the relationships are breaking. Where
the people you expected to stand with you have quietly disappeared. Where you wake up every morning and have to convince yourself to keep going.

That season is not punishment. It is preparation.

Everything you are being stripped of in that season was never the foundation. It was decoration. What remains when everything is removed is the real you. And the real you is what your future will be built on.

Do not rush out of the dark season by grabbing the first opportunity that looks like light. Do not compromise your standards because you are tired of waiting. Do not settle for a woman who showed up in your valley simply because you are lonely.

Endure the season. Grow in it. Come out of it knowing exactly who you are.

That knowledge is worth more than anything the season took from you.

There is a difference between being emotionally available and being emotionally dependent.

Emotional availability means you can be present, engaged and connected without losing yourself. You can love without disappearing into that love. You can care without your entire world collapsing when things go wrong.

Emotional dependency means she is your source. Your peace depends on her mood. Your confidence depends on her validation. Your day is defined by whether she responded to your message.

That is not love. That is addiction.

A woman can feel the difference immediately. Availability draws her in. Dependency pushes her away. Because a man who needs her that desperately places an unbearable weight on the relationship that no woman wants to carry.

Be present. Be warm. Be connected.

But remain whole without her.

The man who chases is the man who begs
And the man who begs has already communicated
everything a woman needs to know about his value - that he does not believe he has any without her.

Stop chasing. Build.

Build your purpose. Build your income. Build your body. Build your mind. Build a life so compelling that the right woman cannot ignore it.

A man in full pursuit of his mission radiates something that no cologne, no car and no compliment can replicate.

Women are naturally drawn to momentum. Not money specifically. Momentum. A man going somewhere. A man with a plan he is actually executing. A man who is too busy building to be distracted by every woman who smiles at him.

Become that man. The right woman will find you. And when she does you will not have to convince her of anything.

A home without a leader is a home in constant tension.

Women do not want to lead the home. They want to be led.

When a man abdicates his leadership role either through weakness, fear or misplaced modern ideology, the woman is forced to fill that vacuum. She does not enjoy it. She resents it and she will resent him for making her carry what was never hers to carry.

Leadership in marriage is not dictatorship. It is direction. It is the man knowing where the family is going, communicating that clearly and making decisions with the family's best interest at the centre.

A woman under strong, loving leadership blossoms.
A woman who has to lead a man she was supposed to follow becomes hard. Bitter. Disrespectful.
Not because she changed but because the environment changed her.

Lead your home. It is not optional. It is your assignment.

The women performing on social media are not the standard.

They are the loudest. They are not the majority.

Every day men scroll through content built specifically to trigger insecurity, desire and inadequacy.

Women displaying wealth they did not earn.

Standards they themselves do not meet. Lifestyles funded by men who are now invisible.

And men watch this and conclude that all women are like this. They are not. They are simply the loudest.

The woman you need is not on your timeline performing.

She is living quietly, building something, waiting for a man with the sense to look in the right places.

Change what you consume and you will change what you believe is possible. Your algorithm is shaping your
expectations.

Most of what you see is content designed
to keep you watching not content designed to help you live better.

Curate your feed or it will curate your mindset.

Your ability to walk away is your greatest negotiating tool in any relationship.

The moment a woman or anyone knows you cannot leave, they know they can treat you however they choose. You have handed them power over you and they will use it. Not necessarily out of malice.

Simply because the option is there.

This applies to relationships.
To marriage.
To friendships.
To business.

A man who tolerates everything out of fear of being alone is not loyal.
He is desperate and desperation is the most unattractive quality a man can carry.

Walk away from what does not respect you. Not in anger.
Not in drama.
Simply withdraw your presence, your resources and your attention. Let your absence speak.

The man who can leave anything is the man everyone fights to keep.

A man without confidence is invisible regardless of what he earns.

A man with confidence is magnetic regardless of what he owns.

This is the truth most men learn too late.
They spend years building their bank account believing that money will give them the confidence they lack. It does not.
Money amplifies who you already are. If you are insecure with nothing, you will be insecure with everything.

Confidence is not arrogance. It is the quiet certainty that you are enough.
That you do not need her validation to feel whole.
That you can walk away from anything that does not serve you without falling apart.

Women are drawn to that certainty the way they are drawn to nothing else.
It is not something you can fake for long.
Either you have it or you are still building it.

Build it. Everything else follows.

Before you propose to that woman, go and study her mother carefully.

Not her looks. Not her career. Not how she treats you right now when she is trying to win you. Study her mother.

How does her mother speak to her father? How does she handle conflict?
How does she age?
What is her disposition toward men?
What is her relationship with money?
What is her energy in the home?

That woman you want to marry is watching her mother every day of her life.
She is absorbing those patterns whether
she knows it or not.
What you see in the mother is a preview of what is coming in the marriage.

A woman with a bitter mother will become bitter.
A woman with a disrespectful mother will become disrespectful.
A woman with a strong, dignified mother has a template for strength and dignity.

You are not just marrying her. You are inheriting her upbringing.

Do your homework before you propose.

Absolutely.
Testing is not manipulation. It is discernment. A man who commits without observation is not loyal. He is reckless.
Send less. See if she notices. Go quiet. See if she reaches. Face a difficulty. See if she stays or distances herself. Let a small inconvenience land on her. Watch how she handles it.
Character reveals itself in small moments. Not grand gestures.
Test early. Test quietly. What she does when the comfort is removed will tell you everything the honeymoon phase was designed to hide.

EmmyMaestro:
Men should also apply test on women then what she does next will define her

This man understands the law. His reply is sharp and I will not argue with it.
Set your standards from day one or spend the rest of the relationship negotiating them back. That is the truth he is telling.
The only thing I will add is this:
A man who needs to announce he is a man is still becoming one.
Your nature should speak before your mouth does.
Standards held quietly are more powerful than standards declared loudly.
She will test you regardless. Your response is your answer. Not your words.

LordIsaac:
There is only one LAW with them. I call it law because it is not amenable to personality differences or context. And this law reads thus: anything you will never tolerate from them, never tolerate it from day 1 of engaging with them!
Broadly speaking, they use who "loves" them, and "love" who uses them. Don't fall for any childish test; let her know you are a man ab initio by your nature.
Quote me daily!

Every woman tests the man she is with. This is not cruelty. It is instinct.
She needs to know if you are who you present yourself to be.
She needs to know if your frame holds under pressure.
She needs to know if you can be broken.
Because a man who can be broken by a woman cannot protect her, cannot lead her and cannot be trusted with her future.
The test comes in different forms - Disrespect. Emotional withdrawal. Pushing boundaries. Picking unnecessary arguments.
All of it is data collection. She is building a profile on your strength.
A man who passes the test consistently becomes the man she respects.
A man who fails consistently becomes the man she manages.
You set the tone with how you respond. Every time. Without exception.
What does your response to her tests say about you?

Every man will face a season where he has nothing to show. No money. No status. No progress visible to the outside world. That season is not a curse. It is a filter.

The woman who stays during that season is not staying for what you represent. She is staying for you. That is the rarest thing a man can find.

The woman who appears after the harvest is not loyal. She is opportunistic. She timed her arrival perfectly and she knows it. The problem is most men are so relieved by her presence that they forget she was absent during the drought.

Never reward the harvest woman with what only the drought woman deserves. Your loyalty, your commitment and your ring belong to the woman who saw nothing and stayed anyway.

If she was not there when you had nothing, she has no claim on what you build.

It is indeed a cold world for men.

Nobody is coming to save you - not your family, not your friends, and not the woman you love. A man is ultimately alone in his own world.

You were not created to be managed, used or diminished. You were born to rule, to lead and to leave a powerful legacy behind.

Love yourself and put yourself first because nobody will do it for you.

Plan your retirement. Prepare for your future. Never rely on anyone in a world where everyone is looking out for themselves.

Take your life seriously. Focus on your purpose.

What is the one truth you wish someone had told you earlier as a man?

- Marcus Verum

Stop accepting disrespect and tolerating bad behaviour from a woman simply because she is a woman.

She is a human being and a full-grown adult who makes her own choices. When a woman chooses to disrespect you, know that she is very much aware of what she is doing. She is not confused, she is testing your resolve as a man.

Normalize withdrawing completely from anyone who is not reciprocating your energy. It is not pride. It is called self-care.

The man who tolerates everything is respected by nobody. Set the standard and hold on to it.

A broken home or separation is better than a toxic home or a bad marriage.

At what point should a man walk away from a disrespectful woman?

Women who flaunt and prioritize luxury on social media are not the standard.

Stop using them as a yardstick to generalize all women just because they are the loudest. There are non-materialistic women who value real connection, these are the women you should aspire to meet.

Find women with values, hardworking women raised in solid homes who respect themselves. Women who are not selling their bodies and are not party regulars.

The right woman will not devalue you or judge you by your account balance. She will honour you, especially when she knows your potential.

The kind of woman you want exists. But first you must become the man she is also looking for.

Where do you think a serious man should look for a serious woman in Nigeria today?

- MV

You called me out for generalizing by saying every woman wants the best man available.

But you said and I quote.
"To other men, it is not a priority as long
as a woman possesses the qualities they value."

That is the same argument.
Every person has a virtue they find desirable in the opposite sex
and nobody wants to settle for less unless their options become limited.

For some men it is virginity, beauty or character.
For some women it is wealth, height or looks.
Everyone is chasing the best version of what they value.
That is not generalization. That is human nature.

I have no issue with any man pursuing whoever he wants.
You are the ones who came to this thread with an issue.
I stated a standard. I did not ask anyone to adopt it.

The man who wants a virgin will find one.
The man who does not will find his own.
Both will live with their choices.

To each his own.
Good luck to all.

- MV

TheFreshVanilla:
I'm not arguing with you. You’re fond of making broad generalizations. Now, not all women chase the same type of man, just like not all men place virginity at the top of their list. Different people have different standards and priorities. Me saying some men value virginity less is not attacking your preference. It’s simply acknowledging that your standard is not a universal thing. To each his own.

Everything you just wrote confirms the post.

You said vetting matters.
The post said vet thoroughly.

You said a preference for a virgin is valid.
The post said prioritize virgins.

You said if a virgin with good character and emotional compatibility is available, she is an ideal choice.
The post said exactly that.

Your only disagreement is with calling it universal advice.

But here is the reality.
A man will never know if the non virgin in front of him is the rare exception or the common case.
That uncertainty alone makes prioritizing virgins sound universal advice.

You said it yourself.
It is like buying from a black market.
Why would any man choose a black market when a verified option exists.

Our fathers knew this.
The post simply reminded a generation that forgot.

If a virgin and a non virgin of equal quality stand before any man
we already know what he picks. You admitted that too.

There is no argument left here.
Only honesty that some refuse to say out loud.

- MV

Merry100:
I understand your point about "root and fruit," and I agree that selection matters and people should make thoughtful choices when choosing a partner.

Vetting matters a lot, but vetting is not the same thing as predicting emotional outcomes based on one variable.

My disagreement is simply with the idea that a single factor like sexual history can be treated as a dependable predictor of long-term marital success.

A preference for a partner who is a virgin is completely valid, but it is still a preference, not a mechanism that generally or reliably produces emotional compatibility or marital stability.

Finding someone who genuinely connects with you emotionally is far more complex than it appears on the surface, and limiting the search to one rigid standard only reduces the chances of finding real compatibility. Sometimes, the person who will genuinely stay with you through life's difficulties may not even appear the most "ideal" on the surface.

Marriage is not sustained at the point of selection. It is sustained through years of communication, emotional interaction, sacrifice, conflict resolution, and mutual growth. Those are the things that determine whether a relationship survives and deepens over time.

The assumption that no past emotional experiences automatically reduce future emotional complications does not consistently hold in real relationships, because human beings are not static. People grow, change, mature, and make conscious choices in how they love and behave.

If a man finds a virgin with good character who is also emotionally compatible with him, then yes, she is a highly ideal and excellent choice for him. But turning that personal preference into universal relationship advice is where I disagree.

In the world today you can never be quick to assume a child is yours as a man.

Paternity fraud is real. It is not rare. It happens in quiet homes, in religious homes, in homes that look perfectly fine from the outside. The man who discovers the truth at 50 cannot recover those years.

If paternity fraud is committed against you, know this. Right at that moment of betrayal she had a window of opportunity where she weighed her options. She thought it through. And she chose against you.

That is the part that must never be forgotten. It was not an accident. It was never a mistake. It was a decision.

Paternity confirmation is not just to expose women. It is a shield for the entire family unit.

Should paternity testing be made compulsory at birth in Nigeria?

- MV

You said i am fond of generalization but it was you who said in your previous message that "to every other men, virginity is not a priority" if that is not a generalization for "every other men" what then is it?

Now let me buttress my point further. I strongly believe no human wants to settle for less be it man or woman unless when choices are limited. You are free to disagree.
Every woman wants a man that has the best virtue, the kind of virtues then lies on individual preference whether it is wealth, height, looks, intelligence e.t.c.
Every man wants a woman that has the best virtue, the kind of virtues then lies on individual preference whether it is beauty, wealth, virginity, intelligence e.t.c.

The virtue either find desirable in the opposite sex doesn't negate the other or reduce it's worth. People can always substitute one virtue for the other

If you read my original post with open mind, i have done justice to it that a woman being a non virgin doesn't make her any less than a virgin but virginity comes as a first choice for 'some men' due to certain reasons

So it is really amusing of you to say virginity is not a universal thing when men are marrying virgins every other day except every woman in this world lost their virginity before marriage which is quite impossible. so the fact that virginity isn't your virtue doesn't diminish it's existence.

But if you still think i am the only one in the world who find value in virginity, then the best thing you can do is respect my choice as i did yours. Like you said, to each his own so let it be.

- MV

TheFreshVanilla:
I'm not arguing with you. You’re fond of making broad generalizations. Now, not all women chase the same type of man, just like not all men place virginity at the top of their list. Different people have different standards and priorities. Me saying some men value virginity less is not attacking your preference. It’s simply acknowledging that your standard is not a universal thing. To each his own.

Finally something we agree on.

To every man his own standard.
That is exactly the point of the post.

But notice what just happened.

You spent this entire thread arguing against a standard you now agree every man has a right to hold.

Women demand the best man available.
Tall. Successful. Ambitious. Stable.
No one calls that unrealistic.
No one writes paragraphs telling women
to lower their standards.

A man asks for a virgin and suddenly it requires a full debate.

That alone tells you everything about who this conversation was ever uncomfortable for.

- MV

TheFreshVanilla:
To every man, his own preferences and standards. To you, virginity is a must. To other men, it is not a priority as long as a woman possesses the qualities they value.

Nobody is arguing against emotional connection.
Nobody is arguing against compatibility.
Nobody is arguing against love.

The couple you described is beautiful.
That is what every man should aspire to.

But here is the question you did not ask.

What were the values that old couple built on?
What was the standard the man set
before he chose her?
What was the foundation before the emotional connection grew?

You are describing the fruit.
The post is talking about the root.

A man who chooses poorly at the root rarely gets to enjoy the fruit you just described.

Emotional connection does not erase poor vetting. It builds on top of it.
A strong foundation makes emotional
connection easier to sustain.
A weak foundation makes it harder to maintain no matter how genuine the
feelings are.

You spent many paragraphs arguing
for compatibility and emotional maturity.

A virgin who has not given herself to multiple men arrives with fewer competing emotional attachments.
That is not an assumption.
That is a more favorable starting point for the very connection you are describing.

We are not in disagreement.
You just do not realize it yet.

- MV

Merry100:
It is interesting how people often post assumptions online. In real life, factors like virginity or other external traits do not determine how a relationship functions.

As time goes on in a relationship, many external factors become less important, and the focus shifts to the bond itself.

What are the odds that most men will find a virgin who also has good character and is emotionally compatible with them? Being a virgin does not automatically mean a woman will connect with every man she meets.

Even good character on its own does not guarantee compatibility, and compatibility cannot be forced. When that connection is missing, no amount of external "good qualities" can replace it.

I have seen couples who are both good individuals, yet still struggle to truly connect because the emotional chemistry is simply not there. I have also seen a woman who is generally considered "harsh" and difficult in personality act soft, loving, and emotionally open towards her partner.

This shows that what is judged externally does not always determine genuine emotional connection. When someone is truly right for you, the dynamic is simply different.

The real question is not who has "less history," but whether two people are actually compatible in values, communication, and emotional connection. Those are the factors that determine whether a marriage works or not.

One thing I have discovered over time is that real marital stability is built on emotional connection, mutual understanding, and consistent effort between two people.

I have seen enduring relationships, I have seen relationships that looked perfect from the outside but still struggled deeply over time, and I have also seen healthy relationships.

There was a couple I used to admire. They were in their old age, yet they were often holding hands, speaking softly to each other, and showing consistent care. Their bond was so deep that when the husband passed away, the wife passed shortly after, and they were even buried on the same day. They were able to raise their children to be fulfilled and accomplished. This is what deep emotional connection looks like in real life.

This is the kind of marriage people should aspire to, not one that benefits only one party or eventually leads to frustration, emotional distance, instability, and other avoidable problems.

You just agreed with the post and called it a debate.

You said men are free to go for virgins if that is what they want.
That is exactly what the post said.

You said any comparisons a woman makes
depend on her emotional maturity.
Correct.
And a man cannot measure emotional maturity from the outside.
Which is why virginity remains the clearest
visible standard available.

You said being a non virgin does not mean
she slept with multiple men.
Also correct.
The post acknowledged that too.
Some women lost their virginity in relationships that did not survive.

But here is what you keep avoiding.

A man has no way of knowing which category she falls into.
The woman with one past partner and the woman with twenty will tell him the same story.

This is not about assuming the worst.
This is about a man protecting himself in the absence of certainty.

You have not disagreed with the post.
You have disagreed with generalizations
that are not in the post.

Read it again.

- MV

TheFreshVanilla:
You said does a woman with multiple sexual partners carry zero emotional history from those encounters? You are already deviating from the main conversation. Being a non-virgin doesn’t mean she has slept with multiple men. Like I said earlier, she might have given her virginity to the man she thought was genuinely interested in her. Stuff like soul ties are spiritual beliefs. Psychology does not say non-virgins are damaged or virgins are emotionally healthy. Any comparisons she makes in marriage depend on the individual’s emotional maturity. Definitely not a universal rule like you’re presenting it. Nobody is saying men can’t have standards. Men are free to go for virgins if that’s what they want. The issue with you and others with your type of mentality is you keep generalizing and assuming the worst-case scenario applies to everyone who goes for non-virgins.

You are still arguing against a point nobody made.

Read the post one more time.

The post never said virginity guarantees
a stable home.

The post never said virginity replaces love, compatibility or good judgment.

The post never said a virgin cannot end up in a bad marriage.

All of that is already in the post you are responding to.

What the post said is one thing only.
Given two women of equal character
the virgin comes with less history
that can complicate a marriage.

That is it.
That is the entire argument.

You have written three paragraphs defeating points that were never made while carefully avoiding the one point that was.

That is not consistency. That is a very educated way of missing the point.

- MV

Merry100:
You seem confused. My point was absolutely consistent: when I said virginity can help avoid certain problems or strengthen spiritual life, I was acknowledging personal or religious benefits, not claiming it determines relationship success. I even clearly stated that it has no role in relationship; that is, it has no role in choosing a partner.

Virginity is not one of the factors in building a stable home. A stable home is built on actual factors like love, compatibility, personality, and shared values

I often laugh when I see women remind their narcissistic husbands that they were virgins before he married them, especially when it is clear that the man does not love them.

Many virgins, rather than patiently selecting a good man, marry with the assumption that the man will be good to them because he married them as a virgin.

Some ladies assume virginity makes a partner "better" or compensates for poor judgment in choosing a spouse. That assumption is what leads to disappointment, not virginity itself.

At the same time, being a virgin or not does not determine whether someone will enjoy or suffer in marriage. A wrong choice of partner does. A person can be a virgin and still end up in a difficult marriage, just as a non-virgin can have a healthy one.

The real issue is not whether virginity is "good" or "bad," but making sure it is not mistaken for something it is not.

You agreed virginity is a good thing then spent the rest of your comment arguing against it.

Pick a side.

You said virginity has no role to play
in relationships.But you just admitted it helps avoid certain problems and strengthens spiritual life.

Those are roles. You defeated your own argument in the same paragraph.

You said you have seen more non virgins enjoy than virgins. Enjoy what exactly.
And what does enjoyment have to do with building a stable home?

You said there are virgins who end up
in wrong marriages.
Correct.
Nobody said virginity is a guarantee of a perfect marriage.

The post said a virgin comes with
less baggage than a non virgin. That is still true regardless of how many wrong marriages you have witnessed.

A new car can still end up in an accident. That does not mean you buy a used car with heavy history on purpose.

Read the post fully before responding. The answers to your objections are already in it.

- MV

Merry100:
Some virgins may still end up as experiments.

I agree that virginity is a good thing. It can help you avoid certain problems and strengthen your spiritual life. However, when it comes to relationships, it is best to set virginity aside and focus on genuine love. Don't be misled. Don't let virginity deceive; it has absolutely no role to play in relationship. I have seen more non-virgins enjoy than virgins.

Whether you are a virgin or not, just marry the right person. There are many virgins that become victims of wrong marriages.

Read the post again before you comment.

If you read it as an attack on women you missed the entire argument.

Nobody said every non virgin gave herself to the street. The post clearly stated that some women lost their virginity in relationships that did not survive and that there are non virgins who are not wayward.

That is in the post you are responding to. Which means you did not read it.

On baggage.
You said baggage comes from trauma and unresolved emotional issues.
Correct.

Now tell me.
Does a woman with multiple sexual partners
carry zero emotional history from those
encounters?
Does she have no soul ties?
No comparisons she makes in marriage?
No ex she cannot fully let go of?

The physical act has emotional consequences.
That is not an opinion.
That is biology and psychology combined.

A woman's worth is not reduced by her past.
But a man's right to set standards is not reduced by your feelings either.

Nobody is forcing any man to marry a virgin.
The post is awareness. Not a law.

- MV

TheFreshVanilla:
Last time I checked, people get baggage from trauma and unresolved emotional issues not from physical act of intercourse. Calling non-virgin ladies "the gutter" or saying they "gave themselves freely to the street" does not make any sense. Many of them lose their virginity in committed relationships with people they genuinely loved and intended to build with. Being a non-virgin now does not reduce their worth unless in your own head.

Nobody is arguing against love.

The post is about standards and awareness.
Not about banning men from marrying
who they want.

Your brother can marry whoever he chooses. Every man can. That is not the argument.

The argument is simple. A man should know what he is signing for before he signs.

Prince Harry is not the example you want
to use here. Look at how that marriage
turned out and ask yourself if that was
the wisest choice he could have made.

The divorced woman who found a kind man after an abusive marriage is a beautiful story. Nobody condemned her. The post never said non virgins cannot find love or be good wives.

What the post said is this. Given a choice between equal women a virgin comes with less baggage. That is not hate. That is logic.

You ended with you clearly do not know how love works.

I will end with this.
Love without wisdom is how men end up
raising another man's child and calling it destiny.

Vet with your head. Love with your heart.
Do both. Never just one.

- MV

Merry100:
You can't reduce the whole world to your personal mindset. My brother's introduction took place today, and his engagement and wedding will happen soon. I have never seen any of my brothers obsess over virginity, nor have I heard any of my male relatives say a woman must be a virgin before they can marry her.

Love is a thing of the heart, not something controlled by society's mentality. A man can genuinely fall in love with a single mother, a divorced woman, or even a woman with ten children, even if twenty virgins are standing in front of him. Many marriages are built on genuine love, companionship, peace, loyalty, understanding, and emotional connection; not virginity.

Love is personal. How many great men specifically married virgins? Prince Harry chose the beautiful, hardworking, and accomplished; though divorced; Meghan Markle to be his wife.

There is a real-life example that recently took place. A divorced woman married a prominent honourable after leaving an abusive marriage. Her former husband was physically and verbally abusive, even toward their daughter. Despite being hardworking and supportive, she endured years of mistreatment. While she was still in that marriage, she met the honourable, who treated her with kindness and respect, and over time she fell in love with him.

The day she finally decided to leave, her friends followed her to help pack her belongings because they feared her husband would try to stop her. They warned him not to cause trouble, and many people in the area already knew about the abuse because the story had spread widely. When she finally left, people around her were genuinely happy because they knew what she had suffered through.

You clearly don't know how love works.

Nobody said virginity makes a woman a perfect human being.

The argument is simple. A virgin comes with less baggage than a non virgin. That is not an opinion. That is logic.

You just described two types of virgins and used them to argue against virginity. You actually proved the point.

Whether she kept it for love or for God the result is the same. She kept it.

That is the standard. Not perfection. Just a woman who did not give herself freely to the street.

The bar is not heaven. The bar is simply not poor standards.

- MV

TheFreshVanilla:
‎To each his own. Some women choose to give their virginity to a man they sincerely believe loves them even after turning down other guys. Likewise, other women remain virgins not because they have better character or more disciplined, but because they view virginity as sacred/spiritual. Their discipline is rooted in that belief, not because they are morally better than others. Just as being religious does not automatically make someone a good person, virginity alone is not a complete measure of morality or character.

To the one who said "should we tell him" - you already answered yourself by saying nothing.

Silence is confirmation.

To the brother who spoke truth in the comments -
I appreciate you. That is the voice of a man
who understands what is at stake.

To every man reading this thread -
the mockery in this comment section
is exactly what I warned you about.

Watch who laughs at the idea of standards.
Watch who gets uncomfortable when virginity is mentioned. Watch who rushes to discredit without a single logical argument.

Their reaction is the point.

A man who is at peace with his choices does not need to mock yours.

Only a man carrying regret needs this conversation to fail.

Chase virtuous women. Marry well.
Let the noise stay in the comment section
where it belongs.

- MV

marcusverum:
The virginity conversation never ends. Here is where I stand and this is my final submission.

To everyone who immediately demands male virginity whenever female virginity is raised, I have one question.

Where in history has male virginity been a requirement for marriage? In which tribe? In which culture? In which religion?

Even the white wedding dress itself is a symbol of purity. Answer that honestly in your mind. Once you have, you will realize you are simply deflecting.

When a man wants to marry, the woman's family asks what he does, they ask about his capacity to provide. But when a man brings a woman home, his own family ignores his pocket and looks at her character and most importantly, her purity. Each gender carries what belongs to them.

Men are judged by what they can build and provide, this is why they are broke-shamed for underperforming. A man without resources is a man who has failed his primary social function

Women are judged by their sexual discipline, this is why they are slut-shamed for promiscuity. A woman without restraint has compromised the very trait that ensures stability and trust.

Women have a hymen for the same reason men do not. Men and women cannot be measured under the same moral compass, which is why the consequences are not the same.

Virgins are not perfect. They are not angels but they are still the better choice ahead of non-virgins not because of character alone, but because of what they bring to a marriage without being asked.

So to those who argue that virgins do not guarantee good character. If sexual discipline is not good character, then what is sleeping around? A woman who can keep her body in a world where women sell themselves to the highest bidder is not ordinary. She is rare. That discipline alone is the pinnacle of character.

A virgin offers a blank slate, no sexual ghosts, no comparisons to exes, and no emotional residue from past entanglements. Beyond purity, she offers proof of a rare trait in the modern market: the discipline to say no. This level of restraint is only possible because she has successfully navigated a world of manipulation, surpassing the lure of gifts, money and luxuries that compromise others.

As a man, instead of chastising virgins to feel better about your own choices, ask yourself why you aren't seeking a woman with sexual discipline instead of arguing that she doesn't exist.

And as a woman, tell yourself the truth, why are you so worried about virgins? Why do you keep badmouthing them to make yourself feel better? Is it because they still possess the one thing you once had and no longer do?

A woman who could keep her legs closed until marriage undoubtedly has a high level of self-discipline and this often transcends into the marriage.

Truly, change is constant and any woman can go wayward but the majority of women who cheat in relationships are those with prior sexual experience. Most often, they return to an ex or find a new lover nearby. It is a byproduct of indiscipline and recklessness. Old habits rarely die, they simply wait for an opportunity

For one, you can confidently discuss 'no sex before marriage' with a virgin, but you will be living in a fool’s paradise to try that with a woman who is not a virgin. Aside from the words coming out of her mouth, you can never tell if she’s not sleeping with someone else apart from you.

A woman who is sexually active before marriage has a higher tendency to maintain connection with previous sexual partners. That is how paternity fraud happens and when paternity fraud happens, it is men who suffer. No woman has ever unknowingly raised a child she did not give birth to. It is men who get deceived. A man raising another man's child, believing it is his, that is the consequence of ignoring this reality.

No man, regardless of what he argues publicly, will open his eyes and willingly marry a known prostitute. No parent here, mother or father, would celebrate their son bringing home a woman the entire street has passed through. Everyone knows this. The argument only exists online.

The only man who argues loudest against female virginity is a man who regrets his own choice. The only woman who argues loudest against it is a woman who regrets how she spent her prime. Watch the comment section and you will see exactly this play out. Virgins will never argue against this post. Men who married virgins will nod quietly because they already know. The ones performing outrage are the ones this post is about. The truth is always bitter. That has never stopped it from being the truth.

Any man who believes there are no virgins left should examine the life he is living and the places he is searching. Are you finding them at clubs? Hookup spots? Lounges? Men are marrying virgins with good character every single day. Virgins do not announce themselves. They do not perform for attention. Because the loudest women are the most reckless does not mean they are the majority. It only means they are the loudest. Any man who has given up on finding a decent woman should keep that conclusion to himself.

Every woman wants a capable man. She is not looking for a virgin. She wants a man who has worked, built and conquered. So what does she offer him in return? Something she has already given freely to men who offered her nothing. As a man, ask yourself if that is a fair exchange.

Women are ruthless and intentional when they choose a man. A woman with the lowest standards will still desire a man at the top of his game. She will not settle for less than what she believes she deserves in provision. Yet men who are expected to provide everything financially will not even ask a woman what she brings to the table in purity. You are held to a high standard of success, but you refuse to hold her to a high standard of history. You ask for her hand but not her past and then you wonder why your home has no peace.

You will never hear a woman say there are no rich men left. Even a woman who wasted her prime still believes she deserves a wealthy man. She never lowers her standard. She never announces that good men do not exist. She keeps searching. Men should take note.

Think about this carefully. Her womb will carry your seed. Your legacy will grow inside her. A man who is intentional about his future must be intentional about where he plants it. Would you rather eat from a clean table or a dirty one? A brand new vessel or one weathered by years of careless use? If you can sit with that question honestly, you already know the answer.

Most men pursue non-virgin women because access is easier. No waiting. No standards to meet. No patience required but lust is not a foundation. When the consequences of a poor choice begin to surface in your marriage, which they will, and when they do, physical attraction will not save you. The body that drew you in will still be there but so will everything you refused to vet. The same men who mock posts like this are the ones sending anonymous messages to influencers online, broken and betrayed. They chose based on vibes, but they are now living on consequences.

The problem is never the women. The problem is men who are ready to settle for crumbs while women raise their standards daily. This is why most women no longer care about sexual discipline. They already know that somewhere a man is ready to save them regardless of her history. A man who believes a virgin is a long shot will always end up with whatever is left. Men settle for crumbs while women raise their standards and then wonder why the world is where it is today.

This post does not condemn any woman. Not every man will marry a virgin and not every non-virgin woman is unworthy of marriage. Some women are victims of bad relationships or marriages that broke them before they found the right man. There are women who are not virgins but are not wayward. The only intimacy they knew was in a relationship that did not survive. The problem is there is no way for a man to tell the difference from the outside. This is why virginity remains the clearest standard a man has.

If as a man you choose to settle for a non-virgin, that is your right. But do not be careless about it. Your duty is to vet thoroughly. Do not put your future and the future of your children on vibes and lust. Be intentional. Be selective. Choose a woman who serves your present and your future, not just your appetite. The baggage a woman carries into a marriage does not disappear at the altar. It unpacks itself slowly, and you will be the one living with the contents.

So to women who are virgins, keep it. What you carry has value that the world is working hard to convince you to give away for free. To women who are not, stop adding to the count. More men are waking up although some will remain ignorant and learn the hard way. That is their portion.

One thing is certain. A woman will not forgive a man for being unproductive. The day he loses his income, he loses her loyalty. Even a woman with no standards wants a top-tier man. Yet we have men willing to wife women with no standards. Every man bears his own cross but this post will be one that many men will be grateful they read.


- Marcus Verum

The virginity conversation never ends. Here is where I stand and this is my final submission.

To everyone who immediately demands male virginity whenever female virginity is raised, I have one question.

Where in history has male virginity been a requirement for marriage? In which tribe? In which culture? In which religion?

Even the white wedding dress itself is a symbol of purity. Answer that honestly in your mind. Once you have, you will realize you are simply deflecting.

When a man wants to marry, the woman's family asks what he does, they ask about his capacity to provide. But when a man brings a woman home, his own family ignores his pocket and looks at her character and most importantly, her purity. Each gender carries what belongs to them.

Men are judged by what they can build and provide, this is why they are broke-shamed for underperforming. A man without resources is a man who has failed his primary social function

Women are judged by their sexual discipline, this is why they are slut-shamed for promiscuity. A woman without restraint has compromised the very trait that ensures stability and trust.

Women have a hymen for the same reason men do not. Men and women cannot be measured under the same moral compass, which is why the consequences are not the same.

Virgins are not perfect. They are not angels but they are still the better choice ahead of non-virgins not because of character alone, but because of what they bring to a marriage without being asked.

So to those who argue that virgins do not guarantee good character. If sexual discipline is not good character, then what is sleeping around? A woman who can keep her body in a world where women sell themselves to the highest bidder is not ordinary. She is rare. That discipline alone is the pinnacle of character.

A virgin offers a blank slate, no sexual ghosts, no comparisons to exes, and no emotional residue from past entanglements. Beyond purity, she offers proof of a rare trait in the modern market: the discipline to say no. This level of restraint is only possible because she has successfully navigated a world of manipulation, surpassing the lure of gifts, money and luxuries that compromise others.

As a man, instead of chastising virgins to feel better about your own choices, ask yourself why you aren't seeking a woman with sexual discipline instead of arguing that she doesn't exist.

And as a woman, tell yourself the truth, why are you so worried about virgins? Why do you keep badmouthing them to make yourself feel better? Is it because they still possess the one thing you once had and no longer do?

A woman who could keep her legs closed until marriage undoubtedly has a high level of self-discipline and this often transcends into the marriage.

Truly, change is constant and any woman can go wayward but the majority of women who cheat in relationships are those with prior sexual experience. Most often, they return to an ex or find a new lover nearby. It is a byproduct of indiscipline and recklessness. Old habits rarely die, they simply wait for an opportunity

For one, you can confidently discuss 'no sex before marriage' with a virgin, but you will be living in a fool’s paradise to try that with a woman who is not a virgin. Aside from the words coming out of her mouth, you can never tell if she’s not sleeping with someone else apart from you.

A woman who is sexually active before marriage has a higher tendency to maintain connection with previous sexual partners. That is how paternity fraud happens and when paternity fraud happens, it is men who suffer. No woman has ever unknowingly raised a child she did not give birth to. It is men who get deceived. A man raising another man's child, believing it is his, that is the consequence of ignoring this reality.

No man, regardless of what he argues publicly, will open his eyes and willingly marry a known prostitute. No parent here, mother or father, would celebrate their son bringing home a woman the entire street has passed through. Everyone knows this. The argument only exists online.

The only man who argues loudest against female virginity is a man who regrets his own choice. The only woman who argues loudest against it is a woman who regrets how she spent her prime. Watch the comment section and you will see exactly this play out. Virgins will never argue against this post. Men who married virgins will nod quietly because they already know. The ones performing outrage are the ones this post is about. The truth is always bitter. That has never stopped it from being the truth.

Any man who believes there are no virgins left should examine the life he is living and the places he is searching. Are you finding them at clubs? Hookup spots? Lounges? Men are marrying virgins with good character every single day. Virgins do not announce themselves. They do not perform for attention. Because the loudest women are the most reckless does not mean they are the majority. It only means they are the loudest. Any man who has given up on finding a decent woman should keep that conclusion to himself.

Every woman wants a capable man. She is not looking for a virgin. She wants a man who has worked, built and conquered. So what does she offer him in return? Something she has already given freely to men who offered her nothing. As a man, ask yourself if that is a fair exchange.

Women are ruthless and intentional when they choose a man. A woman with the lowest standards will still desire a man at the top of his game. She will not settle for less than what she believes she deserves in provision. Yet men who are expected to provide everything financially will not even ask a woman what she brings to the table in purity. You are held to a high standard of success, but you refuse to hold her to a high standard of history. You ask for her hand but not her past and then you wonder why your home has no peace.

You will never hear a woman say there are no rich men left. Even a woman who wasted her prime still believes she deserves a wealthy man. She never lowers her standard. She never announces that good men do not exist. She keeps searching. Men should take note.

Think about this carefully. Her womb will carry your seed. Your legacy will grow inside her. A man who is intentional about his future must be intentional about where he plants it. Would you rather eat from a clean table or a dirty one? A brand new vessel or one weathered by years of careless use? If you can sit with that question honestly, you already know the answer.

Most men pursue non-virgin women because access is easier. No waiting. No standards to meet. No patience required but lust is not a foundation. When the consequences of a poor choice begin to surface in your marriage, which they will, and when they do, physical attraction will not save you. The body that drew you in will still be there but so will everything you refused to vet. The same men who mock posts like this are the ones sending anonymous messages to influencers online, broken and betrayed. They chose based on vibes, but they are now living on consequences.

The problem is never the women. The problem is men who are ready to settle for crumbs while women raise their standards daily. This is why most women no longer care about sexual discipline. They already know that somewhere a man is ready to save them regardless of her history. A man who believes a virgin is a long shot will always end up with whatever is left. Men settle for crumbs while women raise their standards and then wonder why the world is where it is today.

This post does not condemn any woman. Not every man will marry a virgin and not every non-virgin woman is unworthy of marriage. Some women are victims of bad relationships or marriages that broke them before they found the right man. There are women who are not virgins but are not wayward. The only intimacy they knew was in a relationship that did not survive. The problem is there is no way for a man to tell the difference from the outside. This is why virginity remains the clearest standard a man has.

If as a man you choose to settle for a non-virgin, that is your right. But do not be careless about it. Your duty is to vet thoroughly. Do not put your future and the future of your children on vibes and lust. Be intentional. Be selective. Choose a woman who serves your present and your future, not just your appetite. The baggage a woman carries into a marriage does not disappear at the altar. It unpacks itself slowly, and you will be the one living with the contents.

So to women who are virgins, keep it. What you carry has value that the world is working hard to convince you to give away for free. To women who are not, stop adding to the count. More men are waking up although some will remain ignorant and learn the hard way. That is their portion.

One thing is certain. A woman will not forgive a man for being unproductive. The day he loses his income, he loses her loyalty. Even a woman with no standards wants a top-tier man. Yet we have men willing to wife women with no standards. Every man bears his own cross but this post will be one that many men will be grateful they read.


- Marcus Verum