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Religion / Re: Is Prayer Useful Or Effective? by Marfire: 12:10pm On Nov 08, 2023
MS247:
Prayer simply means a request of service

Human were created with mind that have freewill

So you must have a request for services from God, Devil, Angel or Dirty before getting it

Even in court of law you make prayer request to the judge

Yes for sure it is indeed a request my case is simply to show it's futility. It doesn't make a difference if one makes a request to an all knowing being who knows the outcome of events whether or not you pray. The outcome is predetermined by the definition of his omniscience.
Religion / Is Prayer Useful Or Effective? by Marfire: 12:30am On Nov 08, 2023
The idea that God is omniscient for me destroys the relevance for prayer. Philosophically it doesn't add up for me given he is considered the first cause he should be indeed aware of all the events that is going to happen even before it happen,our thoughts,feeling and actions at every given period of time. He is seemingly aware of every event that will eventually unfold and this for me negates the relevance for prayer as our supplication wouldn't make much of a difference in the mind of an all knowing being aware of the ramifications of all things.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Protesters Block US Military Ship Allegedly Carrying Weapons For Israel by Marfire: 12:16am On Nov 08, 2023
asanausana91:
you are just watching behind the scenes. Palestine military wing called Hamas lives in the bunker under ground while the sympathizers lives in the buildings. Those sympathizers are seeing as innocent unfortunately they are not. Go and watch how the whole Palestine was celebrating when hamas killed innocent Israelis then you will understand something. 98% of Palestine are supporting Hamas.
There's no denying their support for Hama's here but you're forgetting the Hama's attack didn't just happen in a vacuum as you're well aware of Israel and Palestines shaky history. You view their support for Hama's actions on Israel as vile and fine I think that's a valid claim but we should look at this problem with a bit more nuance.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Protesters Block US Military Ship Allegedly Carrying Weapons For Israel by Marfire: 12:11am On Nov 08, 2023
Fuckyoumod:
death to all Islamic terrorists

Quite frankly, what Hama's did is horrible but it doesn't justify Israel's if you ask me overreacting retaliation now causing unecessary suffering in Gaza.
Religion / Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Marfire: 12:06am On Nov 08, 2023
[b]Hello All,

Welcome to the non-christian chatbox where others of different beliefs and disbelief can come together and chat. We can share ideas, chat, exchange information, set up other groups and have fun!!! Atheists, Agnostics, Desists, Pagans, Satanists, Humanists, you are all wellcome.

Everyone is welcome to participate and have fun. Yes, christians and muslims too!!
Finally a wholesome space to air our thoughts...
In order to make this place as fun as possible, we must have rules so that everyone can participate fairly;

1) From the title, it should be clear that this is not a place to convert people to Islam or Christiainity. It is alright to ask questions of the "non-christains" but evangelism/dawah is seriously frowned upon here.

2) Personal information should not be shared here. It is better to set up Blackberry chat groups Facebook groups etc. with Personal Messages (PMs).

3) Memes should be kept to a minimum. From experience, pics and videos slow down the page loading for those browsing on slow internet. This is a turn off for potential "chatters".

Please, have fun!![/b]

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