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Ladyhippolyta88:Always Welcome dear. |
Ladyhippolyta88:Lol usually I try not to argue but I felt this particular issue has to be clarified as a lot of people are highly misinformed about it. Jew/Judaism is NOT a race. What we have now as Jews/Israelis is a group of people from different Races and and Descent coming together to practice a certain Religion. The misconception about this is just too much, Hence the Unconditional Asslicking from ignorant Nigerians just because of Religious sentiments. Whenever the Israeli/Palestinian issue comes up, it automatically becomes a Christian vs Muslim thing, and It really saddens me that it has turned to that because then both Christians and Muslims cannot Have a Rational opinion about the issue without attaching religious sentiments to it, hence clouding their ability to reach an unbiased conclusion on the matter. So the question should be Who are the so called “Jews" that the Christians are defending Unconditionally with their lives?? What Really makes one a Jew?? That should at least put some sense back into the heads of some Zombified Christians who keep supporting Evil but don't know it. |
From the Deliberations above, we can come to the Conclusion that Anyone who Converts To Judaism can be considered a Jew these days, and so that Means the REAL Historical Jewish heritage has been thoroughly Diluted, possibly even lost over time, And what we have now as the STATE OF ISRAEL is definitely Not the same Jews that Occupied Israel thousands of years ago. Heck the First Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben Gorion was a Renowned Atheist, who later became a Zionist. So How can we even believe the Leaders of Israel today are so called "Real Jews"? Now that aside, Coming to the main issue about Israeli Acts of Genocide, Which is My main REASON for Calling them Out (obviously I have Nothing against them), The deputy Foreign Affair minister of Israel, Hotovely, Stated on Air on BBC hard talk which I watched, After being confronted with facts by Stephen sakur that the protesters Killed were Not Hamas terrorists as claimed by the Israeli Government but innocent women and children, Stated That The People who were Killed brought the Killings upon themselves because the Knowingly went to the protest site at the border which was declared a No Go zone for civilians. She admitted on Air that Most of the people Killed were Ordinary civilians who brought death upon themselves and we have The OP up there, cheapishly Running to the Default Israeli propaganda Hamas Narrative whenever the issue of The Mass killings by the Israeli army is brought up. STOP LICKING ISRAELS ASS UNCONDITIONALLY BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT YOU CHRISTIANS (WHICH THEY DON'T GIVE A F*CK ABOUT ANYWAY) TO DO. UNDERSTAND THAT THE CURRENT ISRAELI STATE IS WHAT IT IS, A CORRUPT STATE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER STATE, ONLY THAT THEY ARE WORST AS THEY ARE OPENLY RACIST AND THE ONLY STATE IN THE WORLD STILL PRACTISING APARTHEID THAT THE WHOLE WORLD FOUGHT AGAINST. THEY HAVE NORMAL CORRUPT POLITICIANS JUST LIKE OTHER STATES AND THAT MEANS THEIR LEADERS USUALLY MAKE DECISIONS THAT SUIT THEIR INTEREST OVER WHAT IS MORALLY RIGHT OR ACCEPTABLE. UNDERSTAND THAT THIS STATE LIKE ANY OTHER STATE, IS PRONE TO COMMITTING OFFENCES THAT ARE MORALLY WRONG AND SO HAS TO BE CALLED OUT WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING WRONG, AND NOT STUPIDLY LICKING THEIR ASS UNCONDITIONALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE SO CALLED GODS "SPECIAL PEOPLE". USE YOUR BRAIN AS A HUMAN BEING TO SEE THINGS CLEARLY, AND NOT YOUR EMOTIONS OR SENTIMENTAL ATTACHMENTS, AND MAYBE YOU MIGHT BEGIN TO MAKE SENSE. THAT IS MY FINAL POINT. |
alBHAGDADI:You're still dodging the main point. Can Europeans who Integrated into the Jewish communities a long time ago be considered "Real Jews" or Not? That was the question But it's obviously not Relevant anymore Since you can't even prove without a doubt, What a “Real Jew” Is, Which means you've been confusing yourself and others here since. |
alBHAGDADI:You have Not Given me the Proof I Asked off. You can't just say You're not a Christian so you won't understand" That is the Escape Route of Christians who can't back up their Arguments with facts. You can't just cook up something without any proof to suit your argument expect people to believe you. In other Words You have NO WAY TO PROVE IF THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS TRUE, Meaning your argument doesn't hold water. I will still have to believe Anyone who converted to Judaism even after Jesus died can be called a Jew, Just like Nnamdi KANU Lol, Except of course you have proof to contradict this which you don't. Can we proceed? |
alBHAGDADI:Also, I refused to counter your post on this because I wanted us to proceed to the main discussion I was getting to, But then since we have to be clear, how did you come about the above bolded statement? What is your proof, Or are you now the spokesperson of God? Please clarify. |
alBHAGDADI:NO, I am saying A lot of their Political Leaders today trace their heritage back to parents who were once normal Europeans but converted to Judaism by association as history has shown that most Europeans in the 1800s converted to Judaism at that time because they lived a highly Jewish populated areas or living among jews. Also, you can tell by their looks that most of them look European and not middle eastern. Historic studies have shown that the original Jews were Middle eastern looking, but what we have now are mostly European looking Jews. Are these category of Jewish people NOT Real Jews?? |
alBHAGDADI:Lol so that means Most Jewish Political leaders today who were Descendants of Europeans whose Parents converted to Judaism in the 1800s Are NOT real Jews Right? From your Post up there, it clearly Concludes that the Original Jewish Heritage has been compromised and what we have today are not actually “Real" Jews in the True sense because there is absolutely NO WAY of screening them and tracing their heritage to see if it goes back to the time before Jesus, we can agree on that right? |
alBHAGDADI:Bro, some quick questions please. Do you even believe that Jews are ordinary human beings like me and you?? What makes one a Jew? (I hope you do know that Judaism/being Jewish is a Religion and NOT a race.) So If I convert to Judaism, does that make me a Jew? or is it Reserved for people with only Light skin like the Europeans?(We do know that a lot of Jews that were sent to Israel after WW2 were of European dissent, We had German Jews, Austrian Jews, Polish Jews e.t.c.) What Exactly makes one a Part of this “Special Children of God"? Please answer these questions to clear some confusions before we proceed. Thank you. |
alBHAGDADI:Using Hamas to cover up Israeli Atrocities has always been the tactics of Israel to lead people like you to keep supporting them and honestly it is very Shameful. Isn't it funny that whenever these protests happen, they are always labeled as Hamas terrorists?? Even most of their western allies are not even buying the Hamas storyline anymore. Are you trying to say the Palestinians are very content with their situation and do Not or cannot protest? Why do only Hamas terrorists Protest when they have weapons and can use them? So Palestinians CANNOT protest or does it mean once they decide to protest, they automatically become Hamas terrorists and should be treated as such?? Does it mean you are okay with The Israeli soldiers killing these protesters until the whole Palestinians has been wiped off the Earth?? Is that the End goal?? Lastly do these people look like terrorists to you?? Or maybe their death should readily be swept under the carpet because they protested, or maybe because they are “Muslims" so it means nothing... is that it? Assad killed violent protesters, the who world condemned him as evil, No one cared to know if they were terrorists or not or what they were doing at the protest venue as long as Harmless Women and Children were killed we termed it WRONG!! Why does the case of Israel Have to be different?? I believe it is you who has to do some critical thinking to clear your mind from the scale that has been used to cover it.
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alBHAGDADI:Please note that we do not hate the Jews, far from that. I believe No one deserves to be hated, Not even Bad people. Everyone deserves Love and forgiveness just as Jesus taught. But then we shouldn't treat them too special like they are above all every other human being on earth...When they do something wrong, we should call them out just like we do to others if not, we become guilty of aiding their atrocities which they are still prone to commit as they are still human beings. That was the point I was trying to make on the other post earlier. Anyhow you choose to look at it, Killing of Protesters was Wrong on their part as there can always be a better way to handle such violent protests as stipulated in International Human Right Laws which Israel is also obligated to obey. It doesn't mean we hate them, It just means we are calling out their wrong Actions which is a GOOD thing. Supporting Israel blindly regardless of whatever bad actions and decisions they take is what is BAD. Not every one who calls out the wrong actions of Israel is Anti-israel Please understand the difference as I believe this will help stop the misconception you're having with most people who call out Israel. Thanks |
Lol There can only be one Billionaire... and He is Back! ![]() |
alBHAGDADI:Ohh OK cool. |
alBHAGDADI:Your quote says WHOEVER DENIES JESUS IS THE CHRIST But Israel denies the Son of God Jesus Christ, are they not supposed to be Anti-Christs too? |
You cannot Reason with a Goat. I lost braincells trying to read the crap put up there, No need of even finishing it. **Spits on the sheer ignorance** |
emmyid:Hehe nice story |
ANOWEDGREAT:Don't worry bro, As you can SEE They are Already Wiping them off One by one and very soon in the Future, They would have wiped off All of Them as Instructed By God, so you have no reason to worry. Praise the Lord!!
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seguno2:Sorry this Process is too slow and has shown that it's not working, It's a farce!! What else is new? |
Righteousness89:Bro, how they got to the border is not the problem. That should be handled and Looked into by an investigative Panel created by the UN same way one was created to check how Assad was using chemical weapons on women and children when nobody knew how they got to the Rebel war zones also. Our concern should be, Regardless of how they got to the border is it right to KILL them? i don't think so. My whole point is, A better Alternative should be used in Handling violent protests by the Palestinians, Not Outright KILLINGS Because AS IN ANY CASE, it is Morally WRONG. Honestly I'm not trying to argue on behalf of anyone, That's the Only point I'm trying to pass across. Thank you |
Righteousness89:You are still exonerating them of any wrong doing which is what I find disturbing. I never said the Palestinians are Not guilty of any wrong doing, far from that. Yes they are But so is The ISRAELI GOVERNMENT. The moral standards that has been set for all Nations of the world should Apply to Israel too. Watching only a video of one Palestinian terrorist screaming alahu Akbar Does not give u a complete perspective on this issue. Maybe seeing the pictures of the children killed can at least make you see it the other perspective too and balance your view on the issue which is good. My point is, an ALTERNATIVE Way has to be taken in handling this issue Because, and i maintain strongly, NO ONE DESERVES TO BE KILLED WHEN THEY DON'T POSE A DIRECT THREAT TO YOUR NATIONAL SECURITY, NO ONE!
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ocelot2006:Ahh At last A Rational Christian!!! Assad killed Violent Protesters; Ohh he's an Evil man, He's wicked and he has Lost his legitimacy. Assad Must Go!!! Israel Kills Violent Protesters; Yes they Have the Right to do it because they are defending their sovereignty! When defending your sovereignty, Violent Protesters must be shot down!! The double Standards and Hypocrisy of these people Stinks to the High Heavens! |
Righteousness89:Defend your Nation against Women and children? its even more disgusting to me that shamelessly stick to the Israeli Default narrative of bringing up Hamas whenever they want do defend their atrocities. Does it mean because they are Gods people they can NEVER do wrong?? Or because they are Gods people we should keep supporting them whether they do Wrong or Not?? Are Israeli politicians not human beings like you and me? Are Israeli politicians not Corrupt and prone to abuse Power like Every other politicians?? Do the Israeli people Commit any sin at All to you?? In fact, are they even humans?? I guess Not to you. OKAY THEN. THE ISRAELI ARMY SHOULD KEEP KILLING UNARMED PROTESTERS AS LONG AS THEY KEEP PROTESTING ALONG THE BORDER, THEY SHOULD KEEP KILLING THEM UNTILL ALL PALESTINIANS ARE ELIMINATED FROM THE REGION SO THEN THEY CAN HAVE ALL THE LAND THERE TO THEMSELVES AS THEY WISH. CASE CLOSED!! |
Nowenuse:Do you know that there are pain inducing acoustic devices which are almost common now that are shot at protesters making them to even stay as far away from the police or the protest scene as possible? There are countless ways these protests could have been handled successfully, Limiting the number of casualties without Leading to an all out massacre of Women and children. In as much as The Palestinians deserve some blame themselves for protesting too much, Killing Them is still Not acceptable OR should we all say.. yes it's acceptable LET THEM KEEP KILLING THEM AS LONG AS THEY KEEP PROTESTING...Should we say that? I guess Not. A better Alternative should be sought. That's my only point. |
seguno2:I have no idea bro. Got a plan? |
Kai just look at a So called Country. I weep for this Nation. |
Righteousness89:Do you know that ALMOST NO Christian here could say, I am Solidly behind Israel as a Nation but I don't support KILLING OF PROTESTERS whether Muslim or Not, Maybe they should have used a different method of dispersing them like civilized Nations do, NOT KILL THEM, Because we cannot lower our moral standards to that of the same Islamic Fanatics we despise. Almost NO Christian on here could muster a Sympathetic heart and Say something like that. If you ask me I think it is those Christians cheering the Slaughtering of innocent Lives on here that needs Jesus, Not Someone who is against this Action. Thank you. |
Nowenuse:Bro, get me Right I am not against Israel, Definitely far from it. However What I am against is their tactics of killing Unarmed protesters, That is what I think is Wrong because I believe what is wrong is wrong regardless of which side you're on. But then people here are picking sides ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE based on Religious sentiments instead of a Rational Moral look into the matter and that's where it hits me. We should All condemn any ACTION that is wrong at all times regardless of who is perpetrating the act or else we are no different from the monsters at the other Side(The islamic Terrorists) and those who support the Israeli Massacre but condemn Islamic Terrorism are also guilty of Hypocrisy that stinks to the high heavens. The Same way should condemn the FG of Nigeria for turning a blind eye to the innocent people slaughtered in the middle belt is the same way we should Condemn the ISRAELI GOVERNMENT For turning a blind eye to their soldiers killing protesters whether they are Muslims or Not(Heck some Christians on here believe those protesters deserved to be killed because they are Muslims!! I kid you Not!! That's how bad it has become). I bet you've seen how protesters are dispersed when protests turn violent in Germany, UK, US and so on...Tear gas, water pump dispersals, a lot of different methods can be applied in dispersing protests instead of murdering Innocent Men, women and CHILDEREN(YES children, Over a dozen have been killed) Who do have the RIGHT to protest just like me and you when we feel we are Oppressed. The problem is this has turned into a sentimental issue of Christians/Jews vs Muslims and so it has become almost impossible for people of either side both Muslims and Christians to treat this issue with as minimum bias as possible. This is Not me condemning Israel(I have no power to do that..what difference will it make anyway) But this is me Condemning THIS PARTICULAR ACTION Of theirs to KILL Unarmed Protesters. If we are to Require a certain moral standard From ALL Nations, Then NO NATION should be exempted From these Standards, Not even Israel. I hope I was able to pass my message well across. |
Mujtahida:Hehehe Now that's what I'm talking about! we shall meet at the FA cup Final thread then. GGMU ![]() |
Righteousness89:He's not confused bro, Quite the Contrary. However I still love the way you're interpreting the Bible... Your fellow Christians would find it Really convincing. Carry on Bro! |
Mujtahida:You couldn't have said it any better bro, in fact I don't even see what I can add to what you just wrote. Usually tho my biggest problem on here is how to generate the will to write down long notes and make serious arguments that drag on and on just to convince an ignorant individual to see things from a different perspective. I used to have that strength but I don't anymore, I just consider it NOT WORTH IT. However no matter how hard you try you might end up convincing just one person but you can NEVER Convince Everyone. So I just let it be. But then I am always impressed when I come in contact with people who are RATIONAL, Thoughtful and also Well Informed like you are. I would say I'm glad we could interact and with that powerful piece you just wrote up there, you have earned my following. I do hope we can get to interact in a more Favourable environment someday where I won't have to type long pieces of texts just to get my points across.. because we obviously have a lot we can be able to learn from each other in such a Setting. Once again, Powerful Piece bro. |
Mujtahida:The ignorance of the Gentiles(Both Christians and Muslims)is a very powerful tool as you can see on this thread and can be used to the benefit of those who know how to use this tool. There is a saying; A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies... The man who Never reads only Lives One. Carry on my brother in Truth. |
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