₦airaland Forum

onuman:
Writer should have done a better job in telling the public the school where late Habila graduated from and her year of graduation as well as the certificate she held, since they have changed the story from her being a physiotherapist to being a nurse.

What is holding Nigeria police from investigating her death?
Why is her father refusing autopsy?
Una go explain tire

ERM, the police has commenced investigations.

As for autopsy, as someone who works in the medical field, when you tell patient's relatives to do autopsy, dem go say 'No thank you'. And that's for non suspicious deaths!

bigiyaro:
Since you have opened the the thread, pls go ahead and give us some more details about her service year, license number, just some more information on her professional practice, cos so many people are of the opinion that she is into most people thinks. RIP to the dead.

OP won't have access to that kind of detailed information. He would need a court order for that, and it's not like the judge would just give it out , one has to exactly explain why the info is needed. Even the police too need a court order for that info.

It's like someone asking to post your NIN online. Una go gree?

NewHe:
That's strange,so what's the Association meant for

Didn't you read the article.? NSP is like the NMA, a pressure group/trade union.

Noted, thank you for the information. Learned something new today too.

ElevationD:
Now you appear to mix up and get yourself confused with my comments.

If you read my initial comment, you would have understood that I frowned at the mention of the name of Mr. Peter Obi because of all the leaders who built houses for judicial officers, Mr. Obi’s name was mentioned.

Next time, do not narrow your responses in such ways, without reading with understanding.

I was not in anyway agreeing with political leaders who purchase vehicles or build houses for judicial officers, no matter the name of the said political office holder.

I stand by my point to you and the apc man

If you don't like it, then sorry. Both of you are alike.

For those who think that fuel subsides are good

PWC paper on the matter.

reddingtonblack:
[quote author=nairalanda1 post=140053538]The 1st logical is how did you even arrive at that Figure ! Do we even have accurate consumption data or just thieves give estimate to suite corruption
My 2nd is, the total amount lost to corruption & govt extravanga spending is it lesser than #38trillion

Ask google. I know that if i bring my source, you will refuse to believe me

Second, we have lost trillions of naira to corruption in subsidy. That does not mean we need to keep losing it to make you happy.


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False ! In uk/us subsidize grocery are Open bracket not restrictd ... cos of the co- existing trust between govt and her people, they know people won't abuse the previlege. Pls call your people in uk, us, germany food, health are subsidy you can opt in or out its your choice

Why are you lying outright?

Good evening, I've tried.

Kobojunkie:
Your laws are literally being made a joke of by this farce.

Okay, let's do away with all laws then, and go back to just offing the suspicious looking.

Grow up, man, grow up.

Sonofgod1990:
Seems you don't know whom you are talking with


Is like you have never partaken on my steady nairaland giveaway

LOL, good evening.

AsomughaChuks02:
You didn't see Peter Obi when he did the same thing in Anambra, abi?

So , apparently we should ignore possible conflict of interest in this case re APC and tinubu because...Peter Obi built houses for judges in Anambra state as well.

RIght. Better not justify any thing wrong.

Apparently when tinubu builds houses for judges it is righteous, when obi does it, it is evil. Why not query both?

Mentcee:
May thunder kill you for mentioning Peter Obi there.

ElevationD:
Youths without shame.

Of all the leaders in this country, you singled out Peter Obi? When Falana made that statement, did he mention a name? Was he wrong to enlighten citizens on the illegality of such spending.

If some of you would allow common sense and a bit more of knowledge, you’d know that the judiciary, legislature and executive are independent and so must operate separate budgets.

If not for the illiteracy among the youths like you, you’d know that it is inappropriate for the executive to build houses for judges, purchase vehicles or any form of gift. That’s why you all watch judges making wrong pronouncements all the time, when you support bribe taking judges. A reputable lawyer, who daily appears before judges, tell you out of experience that it is illegal and you fault his correct comment. Get small shame.

I do not blame Mrs. Tinubu for saying the youths are lazy.

Poske95:
Myopic response
One of the ways of identifying MAN members
Una get grace sha

So, when Peter Obi builds houses for judges, it is the right thing, when tinubu does it it is the wrong thing?

Why not query both men now?

Nigerians self. APC and Obidents na the same thing.

pdppower:
Why the arraignment? They should be sent to the world beyond immediately. Death to all terrorists

Because if we can do it for them, we can do it for others, including people who look suspicous...which can lead to a lot of innocent people dying along with the guilty.

There is a reason why we have laws. Even our forefathers had laws, They did not just jump on anybody like that.

Sonofgod1990:
Should I show you an evidence?

lol..see this one.

You know you have no evidence.

Obaofaba:
Of what use is his aspiration when we all know he can't garner up to 500k votes?

He should have started by aspiring to be the Governor of his State.

So we should all sit down and let APC run unopposed?

Okay.

Let them do as they wish. E no concern us, but thank God people can now vote and be voted for. Not like before.

Sonofgod1990:
This gbenga was my very old good friend


I remembered helping him with about 70 million naira for his political career. He is a good man

Hmmm...hmmm, wel wel well....we know.

Obaofaba:
What shall it profit you to waste your time and resources?

Tell me you did not experience millitary rule without saying you did not experience millitary rule.

Once upon a time, people could not run for president in this country. And anytime there was an attempt at presidential elections, army go sabotage am or go use am to attempt life presidency.

Many of the people making fun of the floods in Lagos and Aba, if you ask them to pay N300000 Naira per household to help build a modern sewage system that would deal with most of the problems seen here.

The fact is, it would cost far more than the budget of Abia and Lagos to build a modern sewer system, and drainage to prevent flodding.

Only Abuja has something that is similar to a modern sewage system in nigeria, modern drainage system. And it doesn't cover the whole city.

ElevationD:
There can be only one reason why houses are built for judges by politicians. The reason is corruption.

Nigerians must ask about the appropriateness of such acts, seeing that corruption is a very big issue in the country, with judges daily accused of issuing horrible orders or judgements.

We must ask if it is not the business of the National judicial council to carry out such acts as building houses or ensuring the welfare of judges. Housing should be an issue managed by the NJC, in its capacity as the governing body of the judiciary.

Again, building houses for judges questions the financial autonomy of the judiciary. We must ask if the judiciary is truly financially autonomous or reliant on the executive for provision of houses and vehicles.

Yes, and let's also assume you don't build house for judges.

Rent in Abuja is very expensive. Even one bedroom apartment is far more expensive than some young people's salaries. It is cheaper in the satellite towns , but your fuel cost transporting yourself would at the end of the day eat a lot of money

That means judges would be in financial trobule...so what do they do? Yes, they will listen to the government intermiediary who offers BRIBES AND INDUCEMENTS, to get more money.

It works both ways.



Which is why I said, in the part of my post that you did not read, that judges should approach a bank AND GET A MORTGAGE. No government or other inducement, and dem go build their houses in peace, and over time pay back the loan.

FMBN, and a host of other mortgage banks offer loans. Many housing companies also offer financing for houses. Yes, payment, but at least over a period of time. A lot of abuja people do the thing.

Jollos:
Who is helping teachers, artisan and civil servants to pay their rent in Abuja?

Tammy2705:
I am amazed, if it is only judges that deserve keys to apartment from federal government, what of those civil servant through the length and breadth of Nigeria, who put in 35years of service, what of the teachers, doctors, engineers architects,surveyors,military who risk their lives travelling through the length and breadth of the country on national assignment, in perilous times, sacrificing their lives and at times losing their lives due to insecurity and other vices that has plagued the country, and nothing for them, only Judges, who will dance to the music of the piper when there need arises, it's not only discrimatory.but confusing, in the words of a former first lady; " THERE IS GOD OOO"...

Okay, let me reemphasize the fact that I do not support the government building houses for judges,if you are a judge you can aprroach mortgage banks and other banks like first bank that offer loans for houses that can be paid back. I also understand that if houses are not built for judges, they would end up paying expensive abuja rent, meaning that they would still be susceptible to bribery. Either way it is not a win win situation.


Now, the problem with government building houses for everyone is, that it would cost in the hundreds of trillions of naira to guarantee that every one of those people you mentioned has decent housing. Plus, keep in mind that new graduates in those professions are being produced everyday. Is government going to build houses for each of them?

Then house needs maintenance. My father owns his house, and he has done so for years, and he spends money on maintenance and repairs, because everything that man builds must be maintained and repaired. If government builds house for everyone, how go dey maintain am? Not everyone can maintain houses and repair them.

Shey people go pay taxes so that government can pay for house maintenance? See the problem?

The UK used to build houses for everyone. Na council house dem dey call am. By the 1980's it was costing the UK government too much money to maintain. So, they sold them to the occupiers. People criticise the thing, but for the last 40 years not one single UK government has brought back government house for everyone. Na Nigeria go do am?

We used to build houses for government workers. Obasanjo stopped it for most people in 2004 because it was costing money to maintain. IN some areas self, na the owner dey spend their money to maintain the government house..because no money. And this was way before apchsit government, so nothing to do with tinubu.

The way forward is mortgages. In some working places, workers cooperatives pool money together, buy land for house, and then get the workers to buy a plot and start building while paying back the moni bit by bit. E no easy.

Even now, our housing budget can only build enough houses for a fraction of the population. E no go even reach one eight of the need self.

Jollos:
Who is helping teachers, artisan and civil servants to pay their rent in Abuja?

Maybe you can, after all.

I don;t think this government is ready to do so, AND anyway, I ain't their supporter.

The only policy that can remove poverty is policies that are geared towards making Nigeria a nation whose economy is dependent on manufacturing and the export of manufactured goods and services. THis would in the long run bring in far more money than oil ever would.

That means hard choices like fighting corruption, cost reflective tarrifs for power and water supply, loans for small and medium scale manufacturers of indusdtrial components, very generous tax breaks to people willing to set up industries in nigeria, and loans from the BoI on generous terms for such people, and then we got to realize that subsides harm rather than improve people's welfare.

Anything else is just waste of money and raising of debt.

I honestly don't know how to respond to the issue....that's why I have kept quiet.

On the one hand, Barr. Falana is very right, there is a conflict of interest thing here. And let's be honest, in my opinion, judges should apply for mortgages like everyone else, FHA is doing mortgage, they can in a way afford the thing.

On the other hand, Abuja is a very expensive city. Renting even one bedroom apt in the city (not outskirts and sattelite towns) is expensive. Are we suggesting that judges should then spend a large chunk of their income on rent in Abuja, meaning that they would be more susceptible to bribes anyway?

It's effed up either way, and with the trust issues Nigerians have with the judiciary, matters are more complicated.

Kpilo101:
This is the work of Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. Immediately Elon Musk speak against Ramaphosa and that ICC case.
Bobs.... Mafia things dey happen for this world oooooo.

The first xenophobia riots in SA happened 18 years ago. It's an ongoing problem. Long before trump dreamed of taking over USA.

Sorry, Franvincoop,you can keep weeping forever , nothing for you.

We don't have a strong enough millitary force for a UN security council seat on a permanent basis.

Apart from South Africa, Egypt and possibly Morocco, I doubt any African nation has the type of nous needed to have a permanent seat at the UN.

Let's face our front and stay at our level, abeg.

So, the oppostion line is that government budgeted 7.1 trillion for subsidy and then they must have stolen the whole money because fuel prices did not go down as they should.

The pro-government line is that the government spending 7.1 trillion for subsidy shows that they cared for nigerians

Neither side gets why paying the 7.1 trillion naira is bad for the economy in the first place, even if it did lead to fuel costing N200 at the pump.

A lot of children on this thread want the government to set fuel prices low, forgetting that the refinery worker, the transporter, the marketer, the guy and girl pumping fuel into their cars and even the hawker around the filling stations, and the oil rig workers and repairmen all need to be PAID.

Curious345:
We heard the APC has resumed petrol subsidy

The APC resumed subsidy in October 2023, and continued it to Aprli 2024.

And no, I am not doing propaganda for government, especially since payment of subsidy means more debt for government and Nigeria, and an indication that the government is not serious.

SeeWahala:
You lie too much

TAQIYAAA full your mouth

Ah well, mockery is the weapon used by people who have lost the argument

Good morning, I will hold no more discussion with thee. You are free to keep on mocking me, because you are not on my level.

reddingtonblack:
Subsidies can be the Monster under any guise or POV, the Fact that in most develop countries Govt is either subsidying food or education or health, is enough attestation Subsidy is a good sense of Govt presence and commitment to make life better for the people

Okay, to subsidise fuel for this year 2026 would cost between N38-54 TRILLION naira, or nearly two thirds of our budget...and that keeps fuel at a low price.

Plus all those countries you mention, subsides are not for everyone,...to qualify your income must be checked by government to really make sure you need the money...and then they go pay you. And production subsides, where the company gets the benefit, not the masses...are more common there

And then if someone suggests you pay the type of tax they pay in those countries , you won't agree.

subsidy is not why we have deficit budget in Nigeria for gods sake, See All the misappropriations, fake project, fake agencies and the boggus amount allocated to extravagant govt recurrent expenditures for some few people

Missapropriations is part of the story, and the same thing happens in those countries where you have subsides for the poor...corruption galore (see the US investigating SNAP...and it is not the first time such things have happened there )

The problem is, if say government budgets N5 trillion for subsidy for this year, and rising oil prices push the subsidy costs to N15 trillion, where would the money come from?

OTHER SECTORS OF THE BUDGET. That

And since those sectors MUST be funded...how would you replace the oil money

LOANS.

But wait...OIL PRICES WERE RISING.

Well, the past loans we took have incurred a hefty debt , so most of that increased revenue oil money goes to ...PAYING OFF THE DEBT.

And that contributes to the deficit...that plus the fact that most of the time, oil prices are not as high as we want them and revenue from taxes are too low to adequately fund the budget.

Una see the problems?

And since massive smuggling of subsidised fuel results..that increases the subsidy costs

Plus, this is where the corruption comes in....government would be estimating subsidy costs for the following year to guard against sudden rises in the subsidy costs. That's where the stealing happens. Add lying about subsidy claims by marketers and transporters.....

Better not to pay subsidy

Atiku just expose another 60bn appropriated for world cup wey we no qualify ... corruption is the enemy here not subsidy

What does that have to do with the topic under discussion, plus it still butresses my point. APC is a corrupt government. SO WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO MANAGE SUBSIDY AGAIN?

Since subsidy is gone, have we not borrowed more money than subsidy ... Since the subsidy removal how as it being a relief on national budget

yES, AND we will forever borrow because APC does not want to diversify and industrialize the economy.

Geddit?

Racoon:
Nigeria’s economic reforms are creating a paradox where financial markets and international investors are seeing a surge in equities and a stabilized Naira.

Meanwhile the local citizens face deep confusion and hardship due to soaring living costs and complex, overlapping tax policies introduced by the presidency.

Multi-dimensional poverty hitting a nation and the failed leadership is still busy seeking re-election? God abeg!

In other words, you want us to solve the poverty problem with more debt.

I don't like this APC. they are too corrupt and making bad decisions, but right now we are reaping the fruits of not investing in manufacturing and industrialisation since independence. Instead we did sharing money after selling raw materials.

Unfortunately this APC government isn't ready to make the hard choices yet to change the situation. Like all your government, they prefer to manage am while staying in power.

You don't want good governance, and neither do the APC people on this site. Na turn by turn you dey do. That is why the same complaining you are doing was done decades ago and will be done decades from now

We made a mistake at independence. We chose sharing the money rather than manufactured goods and services for the world

The above poster is one of the nairaland kids

Ogolemanti aka specialmanti who always posts memes , yet has no opinion on any topic whatsoever

Na waste of time for me .

Ogolemanti, for you. And for SeeWahala