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Lionessza6:
LMFAO , dude take a chill pill, you are not the only Kenyan I'm replying to here . A Kenyan foolishly insinuated things about south Africa and I corrected him about that , case closed.

You guys really love repeating the Samething. If you have not experienced any starvation since your independence correct me, I will apologise again.

You're a confused woman. First you say I insinuated things foolishly - later you say it's actually somebody else who did. Then you say Kenya should solve its starvation problem - later you ask if Kenya has ever experienced starvation since independence.

Lionessza6:
Gosh ! . The guy said there were more educated Kenyans and zimbos at their respective independences , and South Africans only got higher education in the 90s. I gave him a link proving otherwise and asked him to give me the number of educated Kenyans in 1963. Then I asked for the number from 1963 to 1994 , if you can help with that please do. Thanks .

He lied. There were very few educated Kenyans at independence.

Lionessza6:
No dear you didn't, but you did foolishly insinuate things that I've corrected. So if Kenya has not dealt with starvation in recent history , please accept my sincere apology and educate me about the situation. Hunger is not the only thing that kills people , we have a lot of people dying of diabetes in south Africa to name one , so you might have less of that.

Which things did I foolishly insinuate? I simply asked you to stop claiming Kenyans are starving. So who's the foolish one? Please, stop using foul language on me, I could choose to do the same to you but I haven't.

SA has lower life expectancy mostly due to HIV, homicides and lifestyle diseases, I know that. My point wasn't for comparison purposes but just to let you know Kenya wouldn't be having a relatively higher life expectancy if we were starving. To make it simple, stop saying Kenyans are starving.

Lionessza6:
Gosh ! Did you understand mine? . Why would I do 1963 Kenya vs South Africa 94 ? Is that even sensible ? . I said go back and see what me and your friend are talking about. You seem lost.

I'm not lost - I'm simply responding to your post. You asked to compare Kenya's educated population in 1963 to SA in 1994.

Lionessza6:
Here we go again with the bouncing around . Your initial post implied black South Africans didn't recieve any type of education and therefore were illiterate before 94 . And you changed it and made it a black vs white South Africa subject , talk about reaching . It has been said over and over again even repeated by yourself , that white South Africans received way better education than any other Africans in Africa. Like you said all Africans received around the same quality of education , that is why even Ugandans and Zimbabweans came to South Africa during that time to study in those " unknown" universities , they were not sub standard compared to the African average as you foolishly implied .

Now that you have stopped dancing around , let's get to the subject I've been pointing you to; black kenyan vs black South African educated. I have removed the whites in south Africa, and the whites and Indians in Kenya, now give me something concrete not your opinion. I want the number of educated Kenyans before your independence and after. I have given you on that link the number of educated black South Africans before 94 and i can give yoh the number after 94 if you request it. With literacy , I think we have covered it, you rank lower than us . Being people who value facts and links a lot , I can post as many as you like and they all say the samething ; the zumas and malemas are ranked higher than the kenyettas .

Lionessza6:
Like is said , the ignorance and stereotyping is a disease that we all seem to have contracted . I will correct yours about us and you can do the same for your country , and we can all learn the real facts not the lies we have always believed .

I've never been stereotypical towards SA. I've been on this thread since it opened and I was at the forefront in telling Nigerians to stop deluding themselves comparing themselves to SA development wise when they could hardly keep up with Jenya because SA is miles ahead of the rest of Africa in that sector. I am however disappointed that you fed into their stereotypical views of Kenya. Like some Nigerian guy, Nowenuse, who claims Kenyans starve because of those skinny marathoners he sees on TV yet the very same marathoners are millionaires.

Lionessza6:
Dude , I think you cane late to the discussion. It would be insane for anyone to compare a 1963 Kenya with a 1994 a South Africa , just page back a bit and follow the argument.

Did you understand my point? I said, if you have to use a 1994 S Africa, then you should also use a 1994 Kenya. Stop twisting my point.

Lionessza6:
You have slightly higher life expectancy than us ,we give you that . South Africa though with her own problems, has never had to deal with a starving populace . So as you kindly told us to focus on fixing certain issues in our country, i thought i would be also nice and remind you of some of the issues you have been faced with from your independence.

1. Nobody's ever said S. Africa has dealt with starvation on this thread.
2. You haven't answered the question. How can we be starving when we have among the highest life expectancy in Sub Saharan Africa? Starving people are dying people. You need to stop reasoning like Nigerians and get your facts right.

Jonraid:
They bring up starvation and Kibera as a measure of 'avoiding the elephant in the room!'

Most of our African compatriots can't answer the most pertinent matters that we are raising in this thread!

The adamancy of Africans to get facts right and learn is keeping us backward. Most of the knowledge Africans have about other Africans is stereotypical and nobody is willing to believe when facts are placed before them.

Lionessza6:
You clearly aren't as worldly as you think if you thought black south Africans didn't get the same education as those in the rest of Africa, infact that was very dumb of you . No wonder you are now puffing up and down . Talk to me about the rest when you reach our numbers in middle class and eradicate starvation from your populace , for now you are just making a lot of noise . Then after you can concentrate on your 2030 dream lol.

Kenya has the highest life expectancy of all countries whose citizens are commenting on this thread yet this tired starvation line just won't go. How are we outliving all of you if we're starving? People here are arguing to win and not to understand.

Theophinio:
Hey Kazikazi
Am not a girlfriend or wife hunter like you on the social forum
Get a life dude
Are you an Ethiopian, you might as well help with answers to my questions about Bahir dar
Thanks

You rarely come across men as desperate as him.

Lionessza6:
Here we go again with the bouncing around . Your initial post implied black South Africans didn't recieve any type of education and therefore were illiterate before 94 . And you changed it and made it a black vs white South Africa subject , talk about reaching . It has been said over and over again even repeated by yourself , that white South Africans received way better education than any other Africans in Africa. Like you said all Africans received around the same quality of education , that is why even Ugandans and Zimbabweans came to South Africa during that time to study in those " unknown" universities , they were not sub standard compared to the African average as you foolishly implied .

Now that you have stopped dancing around , let's get to the subject I've been pointing you to; black kenyan vs black South African educated. I have removed the whites in south Africa, and the whites and Indians in Kenya, now give me something concrete not your opinion. I want the number of educated Kenyans before your independence and after. I have given you on that link the number of educated black South Africans before 94 and i can give yoh the number after 94 if you request it. With literacy , I think we have covered it, you rank lower than us . Being people who value facts and links a lot , I can post as many as you like and they all say the samething ; the zumas and malemas are ranked higher than the kenyettas .

You should ask for the number of educated Kenyans after 1994. If you're doing a comparison, compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

68816419:
I am still asking u same question, when the roofing systems are changed how would it look?

Does a foolish person become smart when he takes a shower?

68816419:
still won't change the Fact that 70% Nairobi is slums

Only 6% of Nairobi is slums. 90% of Ibadan is slums.

68816419:
you can do better than posting same pic of Buruburu over and over again?

You can do better than stop telling lies, apologize and tell everyone that Buruburu is actually better than 99% of neighborhoods in Nigeria?

68816419:
if 90% of Nigerians cities are slums, then 101% of Kenyans cities are more than slums.

Look at the normal Ibadan. Imagine you guys don't even consider this a slum.

Kur17:
Ignorance of the highest order from him, but I didn't know he claims to here...

Seems like they don't know what a slum is, I've noticed they don't have any fair decent estates

Most of their cities are seas of unplanned slums.

68816419:
Is like you resides at Buruburu?

I don't but if I did, I would still be better off than 99% of Nigerians.

Runalong333:
You have never heard me claiming these, so speak to the people who have done so not me.

Your reasoning is just as stupid as you. I didn't say you claimed that, I said I can see through your hypocrisy. Meaning, you've been through this thread and read about Nigerians painting a grandiose picture of Nigeria when the reality is otherwise but you're blind to that yet you're so quick to point out how Kenyans aren't who they think they are.

Runalong333:
Nigeria doesn't have a white population like you do, so don't expect to find them in slums . So when I see white people in slums in America, UK and South Africa, I ask myself can that ever happen in Kenya? . All I see in Kenya with white people is privilledge, and all I see with the indigenes is poverty and starvation.

You must be sick. What is the population of white people in Kenya now that you know so much about Kenya?

Kur17:
Lower income estates equvnt of Umoja, Donholm Komarock etc in Nigeria are all slums just like kibera...

. ...but to them Kano, makoko etc are not slums

"Ibadan"

When you read what they classify as a slum in other countries, you might think they're from Switzerland. Imagine some idiot was arguing here that Buruburu is a slum - and he claims to live in Kenya

68816419:
hahaha desperado slums dwellers kenyans, nigga, the only slum in that list of yours is makoko and even with that, 50% of the slum is being demolished. and very soon u won't see it no more.
I challenge you to provide pics showing the slums area of these places .

90% of Nigerian cities are basically slums. I wonder what you guys are always arguing over

Runalong333:
You failed to understand me , Kenya is now known because of this thread , before we knew nothing about you nor did we care. Through this forum we know you better than before, it's not a bad thread at all.

You need to get off whatever you're smoking.

Runalong333:
There is no white and Indian domination in Kenya, I apologise for that . There is just a lot of control of its economy by the two groups, no wonder we see none of them in slums but black kenyans are the kings and queens of slum dwellings .

You don't admire the West , you hate your under achieving black Kenyan behinds too much , hence the statement you made of wishing to be white .

Most of the things you mentioned you want to achieve as the black Kenyan intellects you claim to be , are not new in Africa . I thought you would be breaking barriers not following footsteps of the likes of the ANC illiterates of South Africa and Nigerian government .

If the word hypocrisy had a face, the face would be you.

Who lives in those Ibadan and Kano slums? Who lives in Makoko? White people? Indians? Yet it's Kenya's slums that you're worried of for harboring only black people.

Runalong333:
We know we are currently in chaos , but we are certainly not done and out . I still see Nigeria vs South Africa vs Egypt competion for the next two decades even with the current chaos in all three , moreso the two .

Based on comments on this thread by Nigerians, you're the giant of Africa who delivered SA from apartheid, own Kenya's banking, ICT and real estate industry, control every industry in West Africa and the savior of Africa. I hope you see through your hypocrisy

Runalong333:
A Nigerian , a bitter one at that. Nigerians don't hold back in criticising ourselves or our country, you should be aware by now. If you check well , the reaction this thread got was of shock and disgust. If it were South Africa, it would have been like two pages filled with personal insults ,because we wouldnt have much to talk about . But Kenya? No my guy. I agree you have a lot of positives and a much more laid back country, but you are not where you think you are

Are you Nigerians where you think you are?

Kenyanstar:
After being called out he still has the audacity to come and scatter his mouth around this thread. He knows his country is a sinking boat but has to save face by attacking other countries that seem to be moving forward. I will expose each one of them

True. ...most of them are like that

Runalong333:
We know this is your little attempt at trying to generate black South Africans, just like you have been trying to do to other Africans and you keep on embarrassing yourselves. Malema was born in the 80s and is a graduate of UNISA which is even rated better than some of your own Universities , and Zuma does not have any degree so I don't understand what you were getting at by mentioning him. Yes , they had unknown schools because they were badly funded for sabotage , duh!. I'm starting to suspect that some of you are paid from outside of Africa to post here , you are too out of touch with African realities including those of kenya lol. Actually we have heard of them , that is why some leaders in Africa studied there silly . You have been glorifying white privilege all over the place , and we are called the white worshippers by you Kenyans . Nigerians have pride , not this silliness. How many white South Africans went to these Universities compared to the majority who didn't even have grade 12 certificates ?. The South African universities were mainly meant for the privilledged not everyone , read and learn and stop reasoning with your changa drinking anus. You mentioned those whites, where are their Kenyan black counterparts ? . They achieved all of that after you are independent and able to attend " your world class universities " , why are you not on par with them?. Nigerians would never delude ourselves , white South Africans had a head start from all blacks in Africa, not even one black country has been able to compete with them favourable. Where are the Shuttleworths of kenya ? . Why are is your manufacturing dominated by Indians and the British even after going to the same schools as you for 55 years ? . Why are almost all the multi- nationals headed by white people and a few ceremonial heads if you all are better educated than most Africans?. It seems all this education you are bragging about is only benefiting the none blacks , because we hardly see any positives from the black Kenyan populace , all we see is the increase of their slums and starvation. Nigeria with our coup and wars , we are dominate everything in our country unlike you loud mouths who think degrading trying Africans will somehow elevate you to something you are not. No wonder you once said your dream is to be like whites lol. That alone made me suspicious about you and your intention here , i doubt any self respecting black man would say that. We can only take you serious when you end starvation , poverty , diseases , non- black economic domination, and produce a better middle class and rich people who are mainly black. For now, you are some pained oppressed blacks who want to drag others down to your hopeless level. Move over and let the real owners of kenya talk . Yes , you admire anything that has white involvement we know . Just like some Europeans take Kenya tourism and development because serious, because they can see the obvious British domination and leadership . Give those British pigs less power over your economy and let's see how fast Kenya ratings will go down , we all know how it works . The more whites get more food than the locals, the better the country is perceived. South Africa is not favourably because they are changing that , Kenya is the new love child , and guess what the slums will continue to grow for the indigenes and the foreigners wi be getting richer .

He was Nigerian all along. I wonder why Nigerians and Tanzanians here have to pretend to be South African to engage us. Is it inferiority complex? This proves we're doing ourselves a disfavor arguing with them. We should be looking at South Africa.

CLOSE THE THREAD NOW.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Will this bullshit stop Nigerians from boarding rickety boats to Europe even if it means dying inside the Mediterranean Sea?
Some of you would even sacrifice your folks just to be given an American green card.
We deceive ourselves a lot in this shithole.

4kDdullard:
20Kenyans against 1Tanzanians.
In the end you are badly beaten hahahaha....U have the freedom to console yourself.
It seems you don't get it, Kenya is the past.
Abegi no make the Tanzanian make una commit suicide, u know say na una we dey use punch when we get leisure time.

Actually, it's Nigeria + Tanzania v Kenya and we are still whipping your asses.

darfay:
Who asked for your approval..... In other news Ethiopia is now the largest and fastest growing economy in East Africa, followed by Tz, no hope for you guys

You need to worry more about your shrinking GDP. Ours is growing - slower than Ethiopia's but still growing fast anyway.

Jonraid:
Here are the top ten leading real estate firms in Kenya.Jumia is not a real estate company.You sound so uninformed.
Those houses are owned by different companies.A loss making firm like Jumia can only advertise houses in its platform.That's all!

https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Jumia-sinks-into--139-3m-loss/2560-4409702-rhekyfz/index.html

https://biznakenya.com/real-estate-companies-in-kenya/

Anyone who thinks Jumia is a real estate company is probably a recent high school graduate who just discovered Google.

darfay:
Angola is no 3, in sub Saharan Africa and no 5, in Africa. While Ethiopia is the largest economy in East Africa and with Tz growing @ a faster rate they would overtake you b4 you know it

Remember Ethiopia have double our population. They're doing well economically though I doubt they'll ever beat us per capita in our lifetime.