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 Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 7:28am On Dec 01, 2012 |
If the reps want to amend the law (which I don't believe should be our priority at this time), the only amendment I can think of would be to ban state governors and other government officials from flying party flags on their official vehicles. These vehicles were bought with public funds, which means they belong to the people/government and that includes members of all the political parties and even citizens who are not members of any party. Why should you fly the flag of a political party on public property? Instead, the governors should fly both the national flag (which must be on the right) and the state flag (which must be on the left) on their official vehicles. Why aren't the reps planning to ban political party and trade union flags and anthems? Aren't they a sign of "division"? |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 7:19am On Dec 01, 2012 |
In a family the children have their personal (first) name and their father's (surname) name. The fact that a child has his personal name does not mean that he is no longer a member of the family, or that he wants the family to divide. In Nigeria we have people who identify themselves as Efik, Anangs, Edo, Tiv, Jukun, Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Tiv, Bachama, etc. The fact that they identify with these groups does not mean that they are no longer Nigerians (some of these groups have their own colour, eg, the Tiv are known for their black and white attire). So, why do some people believe that state flags are a sign of division? (Answer: prolonged military rule). |
| Sports › Re: Pictures From Eko 2012 Opening Ceremony by naptu2: 6:27pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
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| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 6:07pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
Kaduna State (1967-1970 https://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304505_10151200432112790_1040244764_n.jpg |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 6:06pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
Kano State (1967-1970) https://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/375941_10151199862527790_58920983_n.jpg |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 6:05pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
Rivers State (1967-1970) https://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253173_10151199372387790_50335173_n.jpg |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 6:04pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
Delta State https://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386782_10151198917307790_743267606_n.jpg Below: Delta State logo. [img]https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/886337_Delta-State-logo_jpg67564016bd615d3d6073c9a891498087[/img] |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 5:57pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
Kwara State (1967-1970) https://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/3135_10151200618967790_1788825814_n.jpg Kwara State logo 2012 www.nairaland.com/attachments/886331_Kwara_jpg64e0d4b6161c2fd2fe03021704021348 |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 5:56pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 5:55pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
The State of Osun https://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526273_10151195617352790_746474837_n.jpg Flag https://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/294450_10151196008137790_1256626175_n.jpg Coat of Arms of The State of Osun (the coat of arms is adapted from the Western Region Coat of Arms) |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 5:54pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 1:41pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
I'm a bit busy at the moment and there are still more state flags. Click on this link if you want to see the state flags, Commander in Chief's flag, President's flag, flags of pre-colonial empires and kingdoms, etc. https://www.nairaland.com/1062509/nigeria-good-bad-beautiful-ugly/32 I'll try and post them on this thread in the evening. |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 12:49pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 12:38pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
johnie: The laws of the federation recognises that states could have their own flags: |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 12:38pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
5much: can they discuss more serious issuesThank you. There is no need to amend the law at this time. |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 12:31pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
afam4eva: It shouldn't be whether or not it's done in the US. The point is, does the constitution have any provision for state flags and anthems? Mind you the US that you're citing, every state runs like a country. They control their resources unlike here in Nigeria.In fact, there's a law in Nigeria that currently permits state flags and specifies how they should be flown. That's what some reps are currently trying to amend. I just gave the US example to show that it's not strange in a federal system. Law coming up. |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 12:02pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
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| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 12:01pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 11:54am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Eastern Region (1960-1966) https://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/376599_10151203292982790_1778384694_n.jpg Western Region (1960-1966) https://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/418893_10151203138327790_1664028208_n.jpg Northern Region (1960-1966) https://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/564673_10151203396902790_1765542219_n.jpg Mid-West Region (1964-1966) https://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377223_10151203572967790_1171357507_n.jpg |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 11:46am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Ogun State https://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/295122_10151196713902790_1119523084_n.jpg Ogun State Anthem (I heard this anthem for the first time in 1986) Ise ya a Ise ya a a Ise ya a a Omo Ogun ise ya a Olodumare ise ma ya o e e Ise ya Enyin omo Ogun e se giri Ise po fun wa lati se e e Omo rere ki isa se e Omo Ogun ki i s’o le e Ebere gb’eru o o Olorun mbe fun wa E tera mose o oIse ya Omo Ogun ise ya a Ogun State logo www.nairaland.com/attachments/887098_OgunStateLogo_jpga994362673ff188939c37ab5def18340 2 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 11:28am On Nov 30, 2012 |
In a family, if you try and put two children together "by force" (force them to go to a place together, etc), you will only end up creating quarrels, resentment and enmity between them. However, if they each have their space, they will naturally interact and yet still have their own space and time. The former is unitary system, the latter is federalism. 2 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 11:16am On Nov 30, 2012 |
East Central State (1967-1970) https://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207186_10151201238262790_1604872080_n.jpg Below: Current Anambra State logo www.nairaland.com/attachments/886348_Anambra20State20Logo_pnga930863c4e797d761b1926bdc5f7badf |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 10:47am On Nov 30, 2012 |
North-Eastern State (1967-1970) https://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/551735_10151201821162790_1503696263_n.jpg Below: Current Borno State logo www.nairaland.com/attachments/886350_Borno_jpg5d25db46356064ef7d65893e00842b18 |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 10:43am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Cross River State (1967-1970) https://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531017_10151193598152790_1128741394_n.jpg Cross River State (2005-Present) https://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562696_10151195522197790_1373090107_n.jpg Cross River State Logo www.nairaland.com/attachments/886209_Cross20River20State20Logo_jpg55e94982baea13449f5c3e7cb01ea6e0 |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 10:40am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Lagos (pre-1960) https://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294589_10151191226342790_1048956696_n.jpg Federal Capital Territory Lagos (1960-1967). Lagos State (1967-1970). https://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293354_10151191322622790_1005207416_n.jpg Lagos State 1970-present https://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304635_10151191581462790_246147839_n.jpg |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 10:39am On Nov 30, 2012*. Modified: 2:20pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
The practice is only strange to people who grew up or were raised under military rule enforced unitary system, whereas the constitution defines Nigeria as a "federal republic". The states have always had their flags (1960-present). It didn't start today, it does not mean they want to break away and it is not strange. The practice is common in a federal system. I will show you Nigerian state flags from independence to date and also show you US state flags. |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 10:23am On Nov 30, 2012*. Modified: 12:09pm On Nov 30, 2012 |
HammedSodiqq: Granting the federating units power to generate revenue and make some laws as captured in the concurrent and residual list doesn't amount to independence. When states begin to go beyound their bound to canvass for what is inimical to our corporate existence, their excesses must be checked.The fact that a state has a flag and coat off arms does not amount to independence from Nigeria. You really need to read the 1960 constitution. In a proper federation, the federating units have some autonomy. It was military rule that introduced unitary system of government into Nigeria. We are just trying to go back to true federalism as practiced in the first republic. |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 10:11am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Elueme: I don't understand what is threatening to national unity when the country is ibinitio a threat to her sovereign identity. Nigeria has got it wrong byworking against her initial ideas of a federation where each federating units maintains some rights and freedom which includes state flag and anthem. We keep postponing the evil day, pls who will tell this people that they can only fight the truth but for a while.. Let me fold my hands and watch how this plays itself out.+100 |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 10:05am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Each state of the United States of America has its own flag, yet the US hasn't broken up. The federating units of Nigeria have had their individual flags since 1960, yet Nigeria hasn't broken up. What are these people talking about? Do they know what federalism is about? |
| Politics › Re: Reps Split Over State Flags, Coats Of Arms by naptu2: 9:59am On Nov 30, 2012 |
This is not even a recent development. Before 1960 each region had its regional flag. The regions also had their regional flags between 1960-1966. Each state had its state flag between 1967-1970 and many states have had their flags, coat of arms and anthem since then. It's a sign of federalism (Nigeria is a federal republic). The practice is found in other federations across the world and those federations have not broken up. What's all the hullabaloo about? 5 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Nigeria: The Good, The Bad, The Beautiful, The Ugly. by naptu2(op): 9:01pm On Nov 29, 2012 |
naijababe: I just got a chance to watch that Burma boy video! All I can say is WOW!!! Thanks for sharing naptuThanks very much. I think it's important that we never forget Nigerians and other Africans who fought in the 1st and 2nd World Wars. I'm still trying to find Barnaby Phillips' original documentary for the BBC. I haven't found it, but I found this write up by Martin Plaut (the BBC's Africa editor), who interviewed some Africans (including Nigerians) who fought in the 2nd World War. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8344170.stm To see pictures of Africans who fought in the 2nd World War, click the link below. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/africa_africa0s_world_war_ii_veterans/html/1.stm |
| Politics › Re: Nigeria: The Good, The Bad, The Beautiful, The Ugly. by naptu2(op): 8:55pm On Nov 29, 2012 |
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