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They got a point.

That freekick.

basilico:
Why would UK dump the debt, was my question. It doesn't have good returns or to punish Trump?
If it's about bad returns who will buy a massive $800B of debt knowing the dollar will crash any time.
In other words ,you hold America debt. You are stuck with it, you not selling it to noone.
The UK earns around 4.42% yield from the 10 year US Treasury Bonds . That works out to $36B annually.
The UK will just dump this golden goose to spite Trump.

Now you are engaging facts. I don't mind people being on the other side of the debate, as long as you engage facts. Good question, who will buy $800bn worth of bonds if the UK dumps it? Nobody!!! And this is why I said in my response "for argument sake"

I am not advocating for the UK to do this. There would be huge economic repercussions of we were to try. But Dayo is saying that we could if we wanted to. And that's just nonsense talk.

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But let's say Trump wants to strong-arm the UK, Japan, and Luxembourg (notice I keep excluding China from this discussion) into a devaluation of the dollar, that is essentially a default. Meaning, sorry your $800bn is now worth less than it was, and your annual $36bn is now worth less than it was.

Apart from what the US will do itself by even going near this topic (yields going up), I don't expect Kier Starmer to sit back and take it. He needs to fight back, and use every tool at his disposal, including threatening to dump it all, even if it means the UK will suffer for it. Because,

1. Eroded trust...... You cannot trust Trump and his cronies (or another Trump in the future) to not want to devalue further.
2. We don't want to end up like Japan after the Plaza accord with a massively devalued Pound, and a lost decade of growth.
3. Why should we accept a default at all?

So yes, threaten to dump it, even if to spite Trump. If you want rational dialogue, then ask nicely, like Regan did at the time.


In the larger debate, there's far more to consider about the consequence of such, and what the likes of Japan and China will do, if the UK were to get the balls to want to dump all. It signifies to everyone that US bonds are now worth phuck all, and that's the end of US borrowing. Do you understand what it means if the US can no longer sell its bonds to anyone?

But you guys think this is inconsequential analysis, and even worse, that 77.3m ** thought this completely through in their support for Trump even before voting. That's abject fallacy!


** Cococandy Correction.

Goal!

raumdeuter:
Adepase you are a peak deluded analyst who thinks your opinion and choices in a country you do not live are superior to those 78m who live in it work there and chose Trump

You are the one with no understanding of what you are posting

Those holding US dollar debt are not forced to do it and can decide to hold any currency they want. Some BRICS nation are already debating going for a different currency beside the Dollar and no one is begging them to do otherwise

The level of self delusion to think your country runs its economic policy to favor America and not its citizens is ludacris

You are the one who keeps coming back with the 78m talk. You want to inject a huge number to the discourse to bolster your position. If 78m voted, surely they are all not dumb. This is your pattern of thinking. A huge percentage of those 78m are conservatives. Mostly conservatives vote on ideology, not on facts. So yes, 78m people could be largely wrong on many issues. But I digress, as that's not the centre of this debate.


My problem was with you. You particularly. You casually said any country can choose leave the dollar as reserve currency. You said that with the lack of knowledge that the strength of the dollar is underpinned by the number of countries that buy US bonds. This is the same currency you hold a huge portfolio in. A few weeks ago, you were spelling PROSPERITY in caps. But it is now apparent, that you don't understanding what makes this prosperity even possible.

You called countries that sustain US borrowing, which in turn keeps your internal interest rates steady "inconsequential" ..... but you invest in property. This means you don't understand that if (for argument sake), the UK, Luxembourg and Japan were to dump all their US dollar debts (as you proposed), your interest rates are immediately affected, which immediately bumps up the cost of credit in the US, which immediately affects you.

So the question is, is the UK really inconsequential as you claimed... or are you just regurgitating the nonsense you heard at the Trump rallies? Did you know that the actions of the so-called inconsequential can have a direct impact on inflation and interest rates in the US? No you didn't. Because if you did, you will shut your MAGA brain down and engage FACTS!


On the other hand, if my country were to be forced by the US into a situation where they had to dump US debt, that affects me personally as a business man. So you have little understanding of what your talk about, when you tell me that I have no interests in following and commenting passionately about the issues.

I haven't even mentioned the effects on Oil, Gas, or geo-political concerns.


The summary of this is that only an uninformed voter will come to the conclusion that some countries are inconsequential to the US, when said countries are directly responsible for the strength of the dollar that builds your wealth. Only an uninformed voter.

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Well fought boys.

CSO don start

Excuse me. CSO? Potter, no dey play around.

See through ball from Hall

Broda Shile is just composed.

Goalllll

drisham:
He's been underwhelming

He's 18 and he's not a Left Back. Everyone has to remember this.

Ibime:
Gallagher has created several chances this game from his energy and drive

Some are waiting for Hollywood pass to appreciate the boy

He's been involved in everything good.

Better performance.

He will come good.

Hallllll?

Well done Hall

BlueMann:
Badiashile is a very composed passer. You can tell he has good technique with the way he wraps his foot around the ball

Exactly. I am glad we are focusing more on on this now - players with technique. You cannot beat ultra pressing opposition without this.

Ibime:
Havertz has to score there

Had to.

Expert17:
Reacted to a player (miles offside) who was just running without touching the ball or raising his leg?

Lmao

Alhaji I do not have the bandwidth to argue this with you. If this link doesn't conclude it for you, then nothing will.

https://youtube.com/shorts/nfpq4TCwkzA?feature=share

StarchAndBanga:
So the keeper rushing out and positioning himself as a result of Rashford's run doesn't matter?

Hehehe. It's like those 'whatever you say, I am against it' moments.

I mentioned yesterday that the whole City backline in that moment reacted to Rashford's move on play and I was 100% convinced about it at the time.....I hadn't even seen the link you shared until now.

This proves conclusively that Rashford interfered with play.

BlueMann:
I now understand the deal better; €70m fixed plus €30m add-ons. The €70m will be paid for the duration of Mudryk's contact (7 and half years), meaning we'll essentially be paying €10m every year. Pretty smart.

There's amortization for accounting purposes (every club does that. It's not something new), and there's this deal. Don't let our transfer correspondent mislead you.

On this deal, they negotiated to pay €70m upfront, which is why they were able get in front of Arsenal in the first place.

Kantebets:
if humphreys was that good Bayern would have for him like they did with Musiala

After all the Lewis Hall hype he is just cucurella pro max

I prefer to buy made players than depend on our academy
Only James is only genuine world class player apart from John terry to have made it to the first team from that academy that alone sends a message

I have just seen you call Lewis Hall Cucurella pro Max...nonsense.

The fact that you are making that comparison shows you are not paying attention. He turned 18 only four months ago. Secondly, he is neither a LB nor a LWB by trade. He's a midfielder....Got bundled into a team that is low on confidence to help and played in a position he has no experience playing....and you are judging him in that.

Where in the world do you see youngsters introduced like this?

Kantebets:
if humphreys was that good Bayern would have for him like they did with Musiala

After all the Lewis Hall hype he is just cucurella pro max

I prefer to buy made players than depend on our academy
Only James is only genuine world class player apart from John terry to have made it to the first team from that academy that alone sends a message

You don't prefer anything Alhaji. Your arguments lack quality. You are just jumping from one place to another. This is not a topic you know much about. You should quit arguing about it.

You are in one statement acknowledging that Bayern found Musiala good enough, but insisting that the academy doesn't produce anything.

At serous top level in recent times are James, Musiala, Nathan Ake, Declan Rice, Tomori...to name a few. You think this is just a coincidence?

We've even produced a litany of next level talent like Robert Huth, Carlton Cole, Graeme Le Saux, Ryan Bertrand, Patrick Van Aanholt, Tammy Abraham, Jack Cork, Tariq Lamptey, Frank Noble, who have gone on to serve either Chelsea or other teams....some of those names you have not even watched enough football to know.


You are talking nonsense my friend. Siddon for this argument abeg. How can you keep insisting that we don't produce anything?

Ibime:
Bloody Humphreys was head and shoulders above CSO in the Man City match. Colwill will shït on CSO head. Whatever you say about academy players, a lot of the current first team players are not better

Don't mind this dude. Just making invalid arguments over the place. I had seen Humphreys play in the academy and he's never been one of those I put on my radar. He didn't stand out. So I was surprised to see him.

Yet he made it clear playing against City that we had wasted money on CSO. That's a boy that's never played a single Premier League game in his life.

Kantebets:
kante’s injury cost Tuchel his job

There is no other midfielder as good as him except casemiro

Lampard signed most of those flop sissies you mentioned

English players and English coaches are full of shit

But he is not fit. That's the problem. You want to play an unfit player or you want to spend £600m on 6 players who are 'good enough' ?

donstan18:
What of your crush Kante? When will you talk about his inability to get fit?

Sterling, Pulisic, Fraudvertz, Kuli, Cucu, Silva, Jorginho and Ziyech. Are all these hums from our Academy?

Una don sell almost all of our academy players, yet Una dey flop for league. We’ll discuss this one day, just one day we’ll talk about how English academy players carried this Chelsea.

Don't mind them. Shey na Havertz for £70m be value for money?

Kantebets:
apart from james there is no other academy player that is good enough for the first 11

Unless the guy is not English then he might come good
I am tired of yeye English players

This statement means nothing unless you said this when James was on loan at Wigan.

There are people on here who went on record saying James was not good enough, after his first 5 games for the first team.

When did you conclude he was good enough?

Kantebets:
leave those academy guys especially English guys

Look at how Gallagher is flopping despite shining for Palace last season

You mean we should leave James alone? Or you forget say James came from the academy, went out on loan and accidentally played for the first team?

Meanwhile, Ian Maatsen is not English. I have been calling for Ian to join the team for about 3 years now.

You are completely missing the point. You cannot keep buying 22 players year in year out. It's unsustainable. Sometimes you have to try and give a Levi Colwill/Ian Maatsen/Lewis Hall a chance, so you don't waste £70m + £30m on a Cucurella and CSO.

Imagine that we didn't buy Cucurella and CSO....we could not have been worse than where we are now on the league. Meanwhile we could have saved £100m, for other important parts of the squad.

Right now, we are screaming for a right back, but this where we could have used Tino Livramento.

While you are ignoring the academy, the quality of players improves each year. You keep trying and playing them until you find a James. If the others don't cut it, you move them in for good money. But you cannot move them in for good money if you don't play them.

Next up Mendel Idowu.

Ibime:
By then these new signings may already be in a negative spiral and written off like Sterling

A good midfield brings the best out of even average players, while great attacking players without a midfield decline in value and confidence. Real Madrid Galacticos era after the exit of Makelele is the perfect example

I think there will be Marcus Thuram and one or two midfielders.