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Islam for Muslims / Re: Rosary by NeoWanZaeed(m): 3:09pm On Sep 19
Antlislaam:
Na copy copy dey worry you in islam.. Sebi na Catholic you dey copy with the use of rosary

Sufi, Tablig and other sects uses it


No difference between using spoon and using rosary.


Kulu bidha kufru
Islam for Muslims / Rosary by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:04am On Sep 19
Using of rosery to do any Kinds of supplication is bidiah(innovation)

بســـم اللــه الرحــمــن الـرحـــيــم
▪️Tasbīh beads▪️

Our Shaykh, Muhammad ibn Hizām -may Allāh preserve him- was asked the following question:

📩 Question:

The questioner says: Is there any evidence prohibiting the use of Tasbīh beads, seeing as some people say it's permissible to use, in order to keep an accurate count of the number?

📝 Answer:

It should be said (in response): 'if there was any good in it, the Prophet ﷺ and his companions would have preceded us to it.'

And he ﷺ is the one who said:
((إنا أمة أمية لا نكتب ولا نحسب))
"We are an illiterate nation who can neither write nor count."

It has not been established from the Prophet ﷺ nor any of his companions that they ever used Tasbīh beads, small pebbles, or seeds to count with.

This has not been reported with any authentic chain of narration, and whatever comes in some of the reports regarding the use of small pebbles or seeds - is all inauthentic.

The Prophet ﷺ used to do tasbīh using his fingers, and he ﷺ said:
((خير الهدي هدي رسول الله ﷺ))
"The best of guidance is the guidance of Allah's Messenger ﷺ."

__________
Translated by:
Abu Ishaq Muhammad Ibn Ahmad Ba Alawi
TV/Movies / Re: What Series Are You Watching Now? Part 2 by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:03am On Sep 19
samistry:

If it was just miscreants making noise Disney wey greedy die for no cancel am as long as it was pulling numbers.

I don't trust number pulling. It could be manipulated
Islam for Muslims / Re: Removal From Muslim Forum by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:28pm On Sep 18
ngwababe:
Any MOD online should assist to remove me from this Muslim forum. I am not Muslim and will never be.

Thank you.

Laughing
TV/Movies / Re: What Series Are You Watching Now? Part 2 by NeoWanZaeed(m): 9:40pm On Sep 18
Ibehchizzy:
someone please tell her acolyte was pure ass 😭😭

I wan para for you but I remember saying everyone is entitled to their opinion.

That series was badass. Too interesting and cool. Sucks it got killed due to some miscreants who understands nothing about Star wars franchise and Siths
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:40pm On Sep 18
Barca fans are like Zombies. They're always saying the same thing..

They all hate mou lol

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Crime / Re: Man Catches Woman In Hijab Stealing From His Store, Hiding Items Between Her Leg by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:32pm On Sep 18
That's not HIJAB.


ITS MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION TO CALL THAT HIJAB
TV/Movies / Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:29pm On Sep 18
I really wish this writerng guy account can just be banned for life.. even his IP address too

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Religion / Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:27pm On Sep 18
jaephoenix:

So because a 9 yo girl looks mature you should fvck her? Please which country are you in? You're a potential (if not actual ) sex offender. You should be locked up

Person wey get sense.. e don Understand.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Nigerian Mufasiko Kufar Hiding Under Scholars by NeoWanZaeed(m): 4:16pm On Sep 17
The funniest part is that, those who are claiming Bi'diah mufassiqah are not abiding with the rules the scholars laid down to it o. They just claim Bi'diah is divided by scholars to associate and defend their people who died in Bi'diah and those doing Bi'diah.
Imagine whose father died in jalabi fetchism, naqali, khalwa, sufi, fortune telling and call it mufassiqah.. What a comedy.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by NeoWanZaeed(m): 4:15pm On Sep 17
Shaykh jabata lampoon the
Baseless fatwa of Baba Sharaf
Ogbomoso on Jum'ah khutbah language.

As you all know Dr. Sharaf with Olúmo Sopè mantra and he will never state the evidence or name of the Olúmo than quoting as if Olúmo is the source of reference in Islam.
It's undoubtedly known known that, majority of Salaf scholars are of opinion that, Jum'ah khutbah must be delivered in Arabic either the jamah understand Arabic or not with reference to the prophet who delivered khutbah through out his life with Arabic language while all Muslims who attended were not only Arab. No sohaba translate it to another language either.

Jum'ah khutbah with another language is Baseless.
Speaker : Fadl Shaykh muhd Ali Jabata.
Islam for Muslims / Nigerian Mufasiko Kufar Hiding Under Scholars by NeoWanZaeed(m): 4:14pm On Sep 17
Why shaykh jabata?
What exactly your problem
With him?

They claimed majority of Salaf scholars divided Bi'diah but shaykh jabata didn't fit that they began attacking shaykh jabata for not following the view of the majority without reference. Funnily, no single salaf scholars endorse video for Dawah and asserted that it also suwar with numerous references but these people said they choose their own position, majority of scholars condemned eating with spoon some of them are so hard on it while some soft but never encouraged it, these people are not choosing that.

No single salaf scholars accepted lecture at nikkah & naming ceremony they considered it an imitation of the jew and Christian but these people do not take that, majority of the Salaf agreed that Jum'ah khutbah must be delivered with Arabic but these Hypocrites do not choose that.
All the Salaf scholars who divided Bi'diah frown at whoever falls in the Bi'diah called mufassiqah that he's name shouldn't be mentioning or ever prayed for in public while some of them condemn praying for him at all. But these people do not adhere to that o. Hmm.

Tell us, what exactly is paining you in shaykh jabata lifestyle gan gan? . Not his positions o there is something else. Because majority of you oppose almost majority of scholars in many ways that you take your position. Why shaykh jabata?

Hadyu ' Muhammad Dāw'ah Forum
Islam for Muslims / Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by NeoWanZaeed(m): 4:10pm On Sep 17
Rashduct4luv:


I think you and your Ustadh are ignorance promax!

We're expecting your dalil and explanations to refute us
Islam for Muslims / Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by NeoWanZaeed(m): 2:20pm On Sep 17
*WE JUDGE IN ISLAM WITH WHAT'S APPARENT: A CASE STUDY OF DR SHAROF GBADEBO RAJI'S IGNORANCE*

*Excerpt from Sheikh Al-Muhadith Muhammad Ali Jabata of Nigeria's lecture (May Allah preserve him upon goodness)*


They asked Sharof (A Mumayihoon scholar in Ogbomoso, Oyo state) that can muslims pray upon a dead person whom charm was found hanging on his neck. Sharof replied that, had it been the person is not dead, we would have asked him if he believed the charm on his neck is the one protecting him or not (general exclamation and laughter). What type of useless response is this? How would you ask someone such?


What we are going to ask Sharof is that, are those hanging charms on their neck using it to beautify their body? He should be asking people around if they are using charms for protection or not after the Prophet has said in the Hadith of Abdullahi Ibn Masood that incantation is disbelieve.


For instance, the incantation they does in Yoruba land, is it the Prophet that taught them or did the Prophet understood Yoruba language? The Prophet called incantation and putting of charms on the neck or waist an act of disbelief (Sheikh read out the full Hadith).

The Prophet called something disbelief and you (Sharof) said we should be searching or investigating people's heart. We can't be doing that. People should stay away from these scholars and these types of verdict.


Source: Minutes 73 - 75 of Sheikh's weekly lecture at Hajj Camp, Ilorin, Kwara state (07/07/2024).

Translated and transcribed by Oladele Muhammad (Presido)
Religion / Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by NeoWanZaeed(m): 2:19pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:


Was Ali a contemporary of Muhammad?

YES or NO?

Lines of succession of amir after prophet was more like era.

Abu bakr
Umar
Uthman
Ali..

Ali is a follower of prophet Muhammad.
It's shia faction that are crazy with crazy ideas
Religion / Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by NeoWanZaeed(m): 1:35pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:


After the death of Muhammad war broke out in the midst of his generals so who was the Amir that Muslims supposed to see as leader after the death of Muhammad?

Nah...war didn't broke out after his death.


He prophesied that an extremist group will emerge, they'll look like Muslims and practise those things we can use to identify Muslims but they're not Muslims
1. They'll be rebellious against the leaders
2. They'll be killing sinners
3. They'll be calling Muslims kafir
4. They'll be killing Muslims..


They're the ones I called khawarij earlier...

They emerged during the time of Ali...and sahabahs unite and kill them all just like prophet has ordered them to
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 1:32pm On Sep 17
THE EASIEST WAY TO IDENTIFY THESE CROOKED PEOPLE PARADING THEMSELVES AS SUNNA


THEY WON'T EVER QUOTE HADITHS OR QUR'AN
THEY HAVE ZERO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE MATTER THEY'RE ARGUING ABOUT
THEY ALWAYS QUOTE SCHOLARS FATWA THAT SUPPORTS THEIR CLAIMS TO LOOK RIGHTEOUS


Meanwhile, the scholars said any of their fatwa that they didn't bring Hadiths and explain..
DO NOT TAKE TAKE IT!!

YOU WILL FALL INTO TAQLEED. BLIND FOLLOWING AND ITS SHIRK
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 1:29pm On Sep 17
Finally.... To clear the misinformation that these non Muslims parading themselves as Sunnah do say..

That once someone does Bidiah like this.. we will call the person kafir lol..

All Bidiah is kufru BUT not all those that does Bidiah is kafir.

There's difference between judgement of act and the doer.

There are conditions to making takfeer.

1. Mistake
2. Forgetfulness
3. Forced
4. IGNORANCE (this applies to matters of ahkam alone)


You didn't mistake
You didn't forget
You were not forced
You were aware that eating with 3 fingers is sunnah (compulsory)


Yet ... You go on eating with spoon despite knowing all these..

You are a kafir.



If someone makes mistakes
If someone forgot
If someone is forced
If someone is ignorant about eating with 3 fingers..


These are the conditions that makes the person still a Muslim
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 1:25pm On Sep 17
For the final piece..

What's the difference between eating with 3 fingers and using hands for adkar?

Why is using something else apart from hands for adkar is Bidiah and eating with 3 fingers is not Bidiah?


Eating with 3 fingers is sunnah
Using hands for adkar is sunnah


Replacing 3 fingers with cutleries is Bidiah
Replacing the hands with tesuba or other counting methods is Bidiah too
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 1:23pm On Sep 17
Replacing the 3 fingers with cutleries is Bidiah... Because you have made your own law as regards the sunnah or how to eat and disown the prophet and sahabahs

If someone is eating with right hand 4 or 5 fingers...that's sinful because he only disobeyed he didn't replace the act of worship with something else entirely


The sunnah is..

Eat is right hand 3 fingers... Eating with left hand is sinful as eating with 4 fingers or 5 fingers right hand is.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 1:20pm On Sep 17
NOW TO THE REASON WHY EATING WITH SPOON IS BIDIAH.


Sunnah simply means an act of worship MADE LAW BY ALLAH, PASSED DOWN BY ACTIONS OR WORDS BY PROPHET AND BY SAHABAHS.

Bidiah simply MEANS NULLIFICATION OF LAWS REGARDING SUNNAH MADE BY ALLAH BY REPLACING IT WITH YOURS AND DISCARDING THE PROPHET AS YOUR MESSENGER AND SEEING THE SAHABAHS AS IRRELEVANT. BIDIAH SIMPLY MEANS NULLIFICATION OF SAHADAH.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 1:10pm On Sep 17
Not eating with 3 fingers is divided into 2..

One is sin.
One is shirk.


We're going to point out the one that's sinful with the following hadiths


1.

Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) having said:
Do not eat with your left hand, for the Satan eats with his left hand.

Sahih

Sahih Muslim, 2019
In-Book Reference: Book 36, Hadith 138
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 23, Hadith 5007 (deprecated numbering scheme)


2.

Salama b. Akwa' reported on the authority of his father that a person ate in the presence of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) with his left hand, whereupon he said:
Eat with your right hand. He said: I cannot do that, whereupon he (the Prophet) said: May you not be able to do that. It was vanity that prevented him from doing it, and he could not raise it (the right hand) up to his mouth.

Sahih

Sahih Muslim, 2021
In-Book Reference: Book 36, Hadith 142
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 23, Hadith 5011 (deprecated numbering scheme)


Punishment for not eating with right hand 3 fingers but using left hand.

Like the prophet said.. it's vanity and pride that prevented him.


HE DISOBEYED FOLLOWING THE SUNNAH, THATS WHY ITS SINFUL AND HE GOT PUNISHED.


HE DIDN'T REPLACE THE SUNNAH WITH SOMETHING ELSE
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 1:05pm On Sep 17
Ibn Ka'b b. Malik reported on the authority of his father that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used to eat (food) with three fingers and he licked his hand before wiping it (with towel).

Sahih

Sahih Muslim, 2032 b
In-Book Reference: Book 36, Hadith 171
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 23, Hadith 5040 (deprecated numbering scheme)






'Abdullah b. Ka'b reported that his father Ka'b narrated to him that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to eat with three fingers and when he had finished (eating), he licked them.

Sahih

Sahih Muslim, 2032 c
In-Book Reference: Book 36, Hadith 172
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 23, Hadith 5041 (deprecated numbering scheme)





Anas reported that when Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ate food he licked his three fingers, and he said:
When any one of you drops a mouthful he should remove anything filthy from it and then eat it, and should not leave it for the Satan. He also commanded us that we should wipe the dish saying: You do not know in what portion of your food the blessing lies.

Sahih

Sahih Muslim, 2034
In-Book Reference: Book 36, Hadith 180
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 23, Hadith 5049 (deprecated numbering scheme)





Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:
When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) finished eating his food, he would lick his three fingers (i.e., the forefinger, the middle finger and the thumb). He (ﷺ) said, "If anyone of you drops a morsel, he should remove anything harmful from it and then eat it. He should not leave it for Shaitan." He commanded us to clean out the dish saying, "You do not know in what portion of your food the blessing lies."

[Muslim].



Riyad as-Salihin, 607
In-Book Reference: Introduction, Hadith 607






AS YOU CAN SEE...ITS SUNNAH.. ITS IBAADAH TO EAT WITH 3 FINGERS..


YOU ARE SURPRISED AS TO HOW AND WHY THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO KILL THIS SUNNAH OF EATING WITH 3 FINGERS. THEY ARE NOT CALLING PEOPLE TO IT BUT TELLING PEOPLE TO EAT WITH SPOON. WE THAT EAT WITH 3 FINGERS BY FOLLOWING THE SUNNAH.. THEY CALL US JABATA AND CALL US EXTREMIST AND BOKO HARAM.

YOU CAN SEE NOW THAT THEY'RE NOT IN LOVE WITH ISLAM NOR ROSUL OR SUNNAH
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 12:59pm On Sep 17
How to eat is an act of worship (ibaadah)
There are lots of hadiths on it.. I'll post like 5 or 6..


How is how to eat an act of ibaadah..

Everything that prophet commands us to do and tells us it's reward and punishment is an act of worship..


Read the hadiths below
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 12:57pm On Sep 17
The BIG question is...

How to eat.. is it an ibaadah? Is it an act of worship or it's nothing.


The only way to know if something is an act of worship is..


Is it sunnah? Everything that's Sunnah is an act of worship.

Do we have Hadiths on how to eat? How many Hadiths do we have on it?

Eating with spoon, is it sin or Shirk?
People condemning eating with 3 fingers...are they condemning the sunnah or appraising it?



Now.. let's get to business
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 12:54pm On Sep 17
Any act of worship MUST AND BE IDENTIFIED FIRST..

1. QUR'AN
2. HADITH.


Before any act of worship can be accepted, it must follow 2 paths

1. Must be done for Allah's sake
2. Must be done exactly the way prophet did it
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 12:53pm On Sep 17
Asalam alaikum warahmatulah wabarakahtuhu my brothers and sisters who loves Islam and truth.

I'll do the explanations very brief .

Ignore the OP. He's part those that abide and act and defend Bidiah called Mufasiko. A language that never existed during the prophet era or the sahabahs era.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 12:52pm On Sep 17
When you don't understand anything about islam.. always quoting scholars..

When scholars are right or wrong.. you don't even know
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Ruling On Eating With A Spoon _ Shaykh Zayd Al-madkhalee by NeoWanZaeed(m): 12:51pm On Sep 17
Laughing Out Loud
Religion / Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by NeoWanZaeed(m): 12:30pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:


So your Amir is your LORD who gives you the order to go about killing idolaters when your religion doesn't make sense to them.

You have forgotten that if all nations knew very well that once you people are allowed to multiply your Amir will used the opportunity to dominate their community they won't even welcome your Islam or your Quran? undecided


Amir means Leader.
Muslims should follow the amir..provided that he didn't command us to commit sin and apostacy.

We follow Allah nor amir literally
Religion / Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by NeoWanZaeed(m): 12:28pm On Sep 17
justlove91:


Marriage is not just about physical development but also about mental and emotional development, is a nine year old girl mentally and emotionally developed enough to handle marriage? Or do girls that age also mentally and emotionally develop very fast then?



@bolded
You mean a person that just leave Islam peacefully to practise another religion but doesn't blaspheme or criticize his creator shouldn't be beheaded?

And when you preach Islam to people do you remember to tell and emphasize the fact that they will be beheaded if they decide to leave?



Do Mohamed and his followers do those things I itemized during his time?

And do we have any Islamic nation now?

As for your comment about marriage... Prophet cannot do things of worship without the order from Allah. No way you can get your head around the maturity.
And physical and maturity is different from then and now. Like I said earlier, you have absolutely no idea how it was then. Arguing about it is fruitless

As for aspotacy you said.. Majority doesn't understand Islam especially the north. The are practicing Islam of terrorism (khawarij) a faction that broke of Islam and form their own Islam.


We don't have Amir now.. so there's no islamic nation. Even as Saudi is, there's limit to what they can do as to practice Islam properly.


Of course, Rosul fought jihad, killed kufar, killed apostates during his time.

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