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Christianity EtcRe: Justcool, What Was The Spiritual Significance Of The Second World War? by newman4u: 10:41pm On Mar 05, 2012
Martian:
I think black people just like deluding themselves. Seriously!
Concerning one little thing I saw about the Swastika being a distorted "grail cross":

http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/a/swastikahistory.htm
In the 1800s, countries around Germany were growing much larger, forming empires; yet Germany was not a unified country until 1871. To counter the feeling of vulnerability and the stigma of youth, German nationalists in the mid-nineteenth century began to use the swastika, because it had ancient Aryan/Indian origins, to represent a long Germanic/Aryan history.
By the end of the nineteenth century, the swastika could be found on nationalist German volkisch periodicals and was the official emblem of the German Gymnasts' League.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4183467.stm


But people around here prefer fantasy over reality.
What has any of the above have to do with the fact that the swastika looks like a distorted Grail cross? I failed to see where Just-cool said that the swastika started with Hitler. Is there anything that I'm missing on this thread? If so please forgive me since I'm new here. Please enlighten. Actually the first time I saw a crossbearer in my life, a few years ago here in Sweden, I thought the cross was a swastika until went close enough. The reason why I'm intressted in your answer is that initially, it ws the similarity of the two symbles that made me suspicious of the cross bearers. But this thread has awakened by intrest in the Grial message, I guess I will dust of my copy and begin to read again.
Christianity EtcRe: Justcool, What Was The Spiritual Significance Of The Second World War? by newman4u: 10:33pm On Mar 05, 2012
@justcool

There is great wisdom in your words!!!! I'm so happy to stumble upon this thread. I joined this forum just to ask you a few questions. I will start by asking one question at a time.

Does Patriotism have anything to do with spiritual development? What I have observed in the course of my travels is that Patriotism is the very thing that makes the western countries better economically than other countries. Patriotism makes them sacrifice for their country. I have noticed that the poorer the people of a country are, the less patriotic its citizens are. People in poor countries are often more interested in their pockets than the general welfare and growth of the country. Is this poverty as a result of lack of patriotism or is the lack of patriotism the result of the poverty? Please throw light on this question. I have more questions to ask but lets start with these.

Having lived in Europe almost all my life, and having dealt personally with a lot of the different peoples of Europe, I found your explanations about world war II very insightful. Its a pity that Germans today are labelled with the atrocities of the Nazi. Nobody remembers that many Germans opposed the Nazi idealogy. No body remembers how many attempts Germans made to assasinate Hitler. People talk about Holocaust but during that era, almost every white society, from America to Britian was very antisemitic. Nobody bothered Hitler when he singled out the Jews, infact they all held the same ideology. Only when Hitler started invading white nations did the world rally against him. The Problem with History is that who ever looses a war will also receive a label of all the evils of that era. If the Nazi had won, the world would today be labelling them as angels. Another problem with History is that an entire people often receive the blame for the wrongs of their leaders. The same antisemitism that the Nazi paraded was also found in Britain and America. Even today in America those sentiments still strongly exist among the whites. If by any chance a member of such groups like the KKK becomes the president of America and comits atrocities. The entire American people will be tagged evil because of this, especially if such a leader looses in a battle or get conquered by another nation.

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