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South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Eziachi: 1:05pm On Oct 25, 2009
The last place you will expect this unusual gene throw back is the South Africa during the apartheid era. But that was exactly what happened to Mr/Mrs Laing, white ardent members of Nationalist party that promote apartheid in South Africa, but they find themselves having a black baby, a birth that throws the resist regime into a constitutional crisis upto the supreme court of the racist regime. This is one of the untold stories of the apartheid era. Just read this amazing story that had now been made into a hollywood film called SKIN.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1093674/The-tragic-story-white-girl-born-black-tore-family-apart.html
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Rebarobyn: 1:09pm On Oct 25, 2009
if she didn't sleep with a black man then this is really weird, but I guess nothing is impossible if black people can have albinos
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Fhemmmy: 1:13pm On Oct 25, 2009
this has nothing to do with politics, so why not move it to family section?
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by TheSeeker(m): 1:21pm On Oct 25, 2009
Can this be biologically and medically proved? If no, then she must have slept with a black man and her game is busted.

Now, move this to the FAMILY SECTION
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Beaf: 2:48pm On Oct 25, 2009
Na so God take dey punish wicked people. Na im good for dem!

Although reunited with her mother, she was never reconciled with her father and to this day, her two brothers refuse to see her.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1093674/The-tragic-story-white-girl-born-black-tore-family-apart.html#ixzz0UxICXxSd

Useless white supremacist family. angry
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Eziachi: 7:17pm On Oct 25, 2009
Fhemmmy:

this has nothing to do with politics, so why not move it to family section?

So aparthied/racism and consequences is a family matter and not politics in your extimation?
what exactly is politics? Can I guess for you?
1.Ndigbo
2.Biafra
3.Ojukwu
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by THEAMAKA(f): 7:48pm On Oct 25, 2009
either the Mom is a liar and she cheated or they both have black in their blood.
cause the girl looks more white than black, but you can still see the black.

this needs to be moved to "family"
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Eziachi: 10:00pm On Oct 25, 2009
Its scientifically called genetic throw backs and can occur within one in a million chance. Fortunatley/unfortunately it happens to a racist couple. South African govt used all the science available to them then to identify the couple as the biological parents. That had never been in doubt. There was a case three years ago in Denmark where a white couple had a twin and one is pure white and the other is mixed and their DNA profile was 99.99% matched.
What it shows is that humans are closer than they thought, especially those that believe in racial superiority.

In this case, It couldn't have happen to the right couple, right country and the right time.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by becomrich15: 10:57pm On Oct 25, 2009
It is possible. even in my family, I was the only one dark as a child in my mother children. Some member of my family are light skin. I use to ask why I was darker. but when i look at my father side, they are dark skin. but the only thing I was sure was , I look like my father.


Even if you do a DNA test for some nigerian. You would find some of thier DNA would contain white DNA. the would be shock.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Nobody: 11:28pm On Oct 25, 2009




Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Nobody: 11:31pm On Oct 25, 2009
hmmm

these babies look black to me.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Nobody: 11:44pm On Oct 25, 2009





I hope someone didnt switch babies on them or something.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Nobody: 11:55pm On Oct 25, 2009
on the other hand:

WEB Dubois, of white and black ancestry:





Ben Murray Bruce: non-black heritage unknown:

[img]http://thm-a02.yimg.com/image/40752c5b44b17cbc[/img][img]http://www.abnafrica.tv/images/friends/ben_murray-bruce.jpg[/img]





Jeremiah Wright:






Modupe Ozolua: non-black heritage unknown

Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Beaf: 12:25am On Oct 26, 2009
tpia.:

Ben Murray Bruce: non-black heritage unknown:

Ben Bruce is Ijaw from Akassa, Bayelsa State.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Nobody: 12:28am On Oct 26, 2009
Beaf:

Ben Bruce is Ijaw from Akassa, Bayelsa State.

I know he's Ijaw but where does he get his "white" look from.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Beaf: 12:39am On Oct 26, 2009
tpia.:

I know he's Ijaw but where does he get his "white" look from.

I don't know, but I guess its from a genetic throwback. Because, his mother seems to be Ijaw as well.

Is there any Bayelsan in the house to throw more light on this?
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by blackspade(m): 1:28am On Oct 26, 2009
Mama's baby. . . . . . . . . . . daddy's maybe.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Konadub: 3:31am On Oct 26, 2009
Beaf:

I don't know, but I guess its from a genetic throwback. Because, his mother seems to be Ijaw as well.

Is there any Bayelsan in the house to throw more light on this?

What's with this genetic throw-back stuff, it is unvalidated. His grandpa was Scottish.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by MIKKYIJEGE(m): 4:08am On Oct 26, 2009
Well i believe this couples might have a black trace in their gene but if the answer is no then they should ask the woman what happened.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by THEAMAKA(f): 4:10am On Oct 26, 2009
MIKKYIJEGE:

Well i believe this couples might have a black trace in their gene but if the answer is no then they should ask the woman what happened.
same thing i was thinking.
this would make a great segment on the Maury show. lol
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Eziachi: 2:07pm On Oct 26, 2009
Lets me say this, I don't always like to talk much about it, but I will use myself as an example. If you see the picture of me as a baby, you will straight think that I was a white kid (I am not talking about albino skin pigmentation).
Until I was about 13 years of age, my hair is totally blonde and I remeber putting dye into my hair as young as I was then because of constant ribbling from other cruel kids and the dye makes it even worse because I will look strange looking pale skinned with a very black hair. I look so ridiculous that my mum just shave off the hiar grin grin
And the shaving instantly become a hit for me, as I realise it suit me better not to carry as hair. But now as an adult, my hair can be called brunette and very straight like you find in a mix race person.
  I have green eyes too, which still amazes many people. I worked for the Norwagian embassy for five years but non them realised I was a product of two black relationship until I told them, to their utter shock one day.
When I first arrived England after the war at the age of 18 in 1971, many of my white school mates thought that one of my parents is white and the other probably a mixed race, I can say that it made my life a bit easier compare to other black kids, this is the days of outright racism in England. Even now as an adult, most people will immediatly assumed that I am of a mix  race stock.

I also have a cousin, who is even lighter than me and also has a green eyes. But our parents though had light skin colours like many Igbos but are nowhere near any white ancestory to our knowledge.  The theory here in England in early 70s when I arrived was that myself and my cousin are products of genetic throw backs. Whic mean somewhere along our lineage, it could have been 10-20 generation there is white folks, too long that no one will have any idea, whatsoever, until a genetic throw back happens. It's scientifically proven. In the BBC Documentary I watch about this woman, they have managed to do a DNA test and it matched by 99.99% with her father.

In Jamaica, there are thousands of genetic throw backs and they are known locally in Jamaica as RED IBOES, and they claimed their ancestory to Igboland through slave trade. Listen to the song called LAGOS JUMP by th reggae group called the THIRD WORLD, they sing little about it and their lead singer Mike Cooper, after their Gig in Aba in the 80s during their visit to Nigeria changed his surname to Mike Cooper-Igbo. He believe hsi ancestors are from Igboland.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by nex(m): 2:40pm On Oct 26, 2009
This happens and I've heard South Africans talk about such occurrences in their country.

If one Oyibo man crosses with one African woman to produce four children, phenotypically, 1 child should be totally African, 1 should be totally white and 2 should be mixed. Now, if the two mixed-looking individuals from the first filial generation are crossed, we're meant to have genetypically, 1 pure Oyibo, 1 pure African and 2 half castes.

Now, that pure Oyibo still has some recessive African genes which will show up when crossed with another pure Oyibo individual with the same kind of history, will most likely produce such a child.


PS: I hope you liked biology.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Nobody: 2:34am On Oct 27, 2009
lets stop fooling ourselves in the name of looking for white ancestry. I also have friends who look white but are 100% black. If at all there's white or Arab ancestry in their genes, its too far back to be significant, imo.


reasonable options here:

a. the children have a black father

b. embryos were switched

c. sperm donor was black

d. babies were switched




Anyone who feels two white caucasian parents can produce an almost pure black Negro/San child, should post instances of similar events in the Uk and the US for analysis.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by sjeezy8: 3:33am On Oct 27, 2009
the parents could both have black ancestry its very possible or the mom is a LovePeddler
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Nobody: 3:44am On Oct 27, 2009
sjeezy8:

the parents could both have black ancestry its very possible or the mom is a LovePeddler

their parents, grandparents and great grandparents were all caucasian on both sides.

If this is the only such instance in the whole world, then hello to general cuckolding.

I feel the woman's pain, but race is more than skin color- its also about features, and the girl clearly has black features (aside from hair). Maybe one of their white nationalist associates played a cruel joke on that family. Someone should do the same to stormfront, imo.

I wouldnt be surprised if the coloreds are just trying to get reclassified as white and so are pushing this story.



Here's one interesting tongue in cheek opinion:


The last time this happened was because the father had had sex with a prostitute and just prior to that the prostitute had had sex with a black man. (Still with me) Some sperm from the black man was inside the prostitute and then some of that got caught up in the fathers foreskin.
Now the man then went home and had sex with his wife. The rampant sperm then entered the wife and she became pregnant to the man she never met.
So if you have had sex with anyone else but your wife in the last 12 months, I'd be quiet,

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081127031149AAQoaDg





though I did hear about an American guy in the olden days who divorced his wife because he felt she was black but passing herself off as white.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Beaf: 1:38am On Oct 28, 2009
I have a friend whose mother is a pure white European, his dad is 9ja. . . he is 100% black.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by becomrich15: 2:00pm On Oct 28, 2009
It is possible because , I had a similar problem, I am dark skin, and when one of my son was born, he looked more white than black . We had alot of problem, even with immigration over here on this issue. 

I remember when i was young one of my grand father( my mother side) was normally call  oyibo(whiteman), because he look light skin.

Some nigerian are light skin, so I assume he most of been the same, but now, I think we have been wrong, it looks more like he most of had white blood in him. My reason was , when i had a son, I had problem with the authority over here, that they make me do a DNA to prove if he was my son. my son nearly look more white than black when he was born. Even a doctor ask me why.  I even wrote them , he had skin problem. that what i assumed. I do not want to post his picture online when he was small. Even when i went to Nigeria, the embassy gave me serious problem, at that time, i assumed, my son had skin problem. I would have love to show my son pictures then and the DNA result. I look black.

Initially I assume , it was a skin problem, but after seen this pictures and reading about "Recessive gene". It looks like my grand father must have had white gene in him. What they call "Recessive gene" . Look my son when he was born did not look anything black.   It only mean someone in my family may have had white gene. And i think it came from one of grandfather mother side, he may have had white gene.


I just do not want to post my son picture. It created serious problem for us over this issue. I assume they thought I stole someone else child.  For nigerian having a child that did not initially look black. it was a big problem. 

I would have love to show my son pictures then and the DNA result.I am not sure it is safe to do so online. 
I have alway believe I was 100% black, till now. I may be wrong, but that is what it looks like.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by morpheus24: 2:50pm On Oct 28, 2009
Beaf:

I have a friend whose mother is a pure white European, his dad is 9ja. . . he is 100% black.
'
You sure about that. Genetically speaking that is?
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by morpheus24: 2:54pm On Oct 28, 2009
becomrich,:

It is possible because , I had a similar problem, I am dark skin, and when one of my son was born, he looked more white than black . We had alot of problem, even with immigration over here on this issue. 

I remember when i was young one of my grand father( my mother side) was normally call  oyibo(whiteman), because he look light skin.

Some nigerian are light skin, so I assume he most of been the same, but now, I think we have been wrong, it looks more like he most of had white blood in him. My reason was , when i had a son, I had problem with the authority over here, that they make me do a DNA to prove if he was my son. my son nearly look white. I even wrote them , he had skin problem. that what i assumed. I do not want to post his picture online. Even when i went to Nigeria, the embassy gave me serious problem, at that time, i assumed, my son had skin problem. I would have love to show my son pictures then and the DNA result. I look black.

Initially I assume , it was a skin problem, but after seen this pictures and reading about "Recessive gene". [b]It looks like my grand father must have had white gene in hi[/b]m. What they call "Recessive gene" . Look my son when he was born did not look anything black.   It only mean someone in my family may have had white gene. And i think it came from one of grandfather mother side, he may have had white gene.


I just do not want to post my son picture. It created serious problem for us over this issue. I assume they thought I stole someone else child.  For nigerian having a child that did not initially look black. it was a big problem. 

I would have love to show my son pictures then and the DNA result.I am not sure it is safe to do so online. 
I have alway believe I was 100% black, till now. I may be wrong, but that is what it looks like.

African people have the mutation that allows for lightening of skin or waiveness in hair texture. Your son or you do not need any White people blood in their vains to produce children who are near similar to this trait.

White people are latter mutations of Black people. It is not the other way round.

The embassy people are clueless of this fact and are only reading you by your appearance because of their ignorance.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by becomrich15: 2:59pm On Oct 28, 2009
You are wrong, somalian , if what you are thinking about , somalian are mix blood from arabs, so are fulani, fulanis have mix blood with the arab.  even some ethiope have arab blood, sudan and others.

my son case , did not look like lightening of skin, I just do not want to post picture, i even issue at that time, it was skin problem. you need to his picture when he was young, if i post it, you would see why. i just dont want to. it was beyoud lightening of skin. it was abnormal

What i am trying to say, is my grandfather from  my mother side could have been a descendant of a molato or mix blood white, I am 100 % sure , it is not  arab Many nigerian are, when some krio moved back to nigeria, and some white were married to nigerian when britain was in nigerian. Their offspring now, would look black.


I did not say, my grandfather was arab, he was not arab, he had no arab blood, it may be white gene. some white people then living in nigeria had black wife.  Even in the 70 's you found so many molato or mix blood nigerian, it is not common now .   Only northerner have arab blood in them. President Yar adua and his wife  has arab blood in him. fulani people have arab blood.

But there were many nigerian with mix blood from britian. And thier offspring would now look pure black. The next generation would not know they have white gene. may be the same with my story. I do not know.  in my son case, i think it was a recessive gene.


yoruba with mix blood are mostly from white britain or portuguese. so my grand father , may have had one of the following white gene.
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by morpheus24: 3:07pm On Oct 28, 2009
becomrich,:

You are wrong, somalian , if what you are thinking about , he mix blood from arabs, so are fulani, fulanis have mix blood with the arab. even some ethiope have arab blood, sudan and others.

my son case , did not look like lightening of skin, I just do not want to post picture, i even issue at that time, it was skin problem. you need to his picture when he was young, if i post it, you would see why. i just dont want to. it was beyoud lightening of skin.

Fulanis do not have mixed arab blood. how many times will I have to explain this phenomena to ya'll for christ sake. Phenotype and Genotype are two different things.

@Become rich

Unless one of your parents or grandparents is a descendant of a near northern berber or someon in your families ancestry slept with a european( Which I highly doubt) I challenge you to give your son a  DNA test and you take one as well. If they find any traces ofArab or european ancestry come tell me what "Haplogroup" it is and I will explain if the first mutations occured within African or outside of it.

If that is too complicated for you then just fax me the result and I will analyze it myself. Otherwise stop making unfounded claims.


AFRICANS HAD THE GENES FIRST BEFORE EUROPEANS. IT IS NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND!!!
Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by morpheus24: 3:09pm On Oct 28, 2009
tpia.:

lets stop fooling ourselves in the name of looking for white ancestry. I also have friends who look white but are 100% black. If at all there's white or Arab ancestry in their genes, its too far back to be significant, imo.


reasonable options here:

a. the children have a black father

b. embryos were switched

c. sperm donor was black

d. babies were switched




Anyone who feels two white caucasian parents can produce an almost pure black Negro/San child, should post instances of similar events in the Uk and the US for analysis.

Th article says the Boers may have African ancestry. Khoi or San at very low percentages. If that is the case with these two parents then it is possible.

Paternal or maternal lineage may play a part in this so it is possible. However the DNA samples of all three involved need to be fully analysized.

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