Whats the big deal? When I finished from OAU some years back, there were 6 First class students in just my class alone! And they were all worth it. Even most of the folks who made 2:1 would have made distinctions outside the shores of this country!

To give you an idea of what happened to the 6 of them after OAU?

1- Msc UCL (London) -now a Manager in MTN
2- MBA- University of Chicago - Now a Senior Consultant with McKinsey
3- Msc-Houston, MBA- Rice University- Senior Advisor with Chevron
4- Msc- Case Western-Ohio- Senior Consultant with Africa Finance Corporation
5- Msc- UCL - Engineer with NNPC
6- Msc- Texas A&M, MBA-UT, Senior Engineer at National Instruments

Never underrate First Class students from 1st generation Nigerian Universities!


It just requires consistent performance throughout . If you invest effort in it, you will get it!

volasunkan:

If u re privileged to attend unilag,walahi,just try it,u'll see extremely gifted students who are enormously talented in the skill of managing acada with paroles,the school is not strictly for bright,poorly-exposed and socially awkward students/lectures unlike other skls, give it to unilag,the school is tough to even enter!you will anyday prefer admission to unilag than these abraka high skl(delsu),"young shall grow"unilorin,ojo high skl(lasu) and wot have u., i once met a unilag student from kano who in his set in prestigious NMS(Nigerian Military skl) was the best complaining that in his unilag class every semester produce new champion and he only topped his class once wen he was in his 200level and since then its very difficult to get to the top even though he is still doing great!The guy was seriously challenged by the enormous pressure he is facing to even get a first class even as very smart as he is,he is still on 4.3 cgpa with a session to go!
The lady with the 4.96 is a daughter of an ordinary policeman not a politician!her speech was an eloquent testimony of wot a well run skl could do to bring out the best in u.unilag 1st class no be yams abeg leave beef jare!

Bro, you are right though, I will rate Unilag as one of the best in the world. I remember, 2002,03,04. We have some young chaps in Unilag, they runs all these standardize tests for people. That’s why I confirmed that we have brains in Nigeria. When SAT was 1600, before they later Changed it 2400, I know like six different guys that had 1590 more than four times each for people. In GMAT their promised scores start from 730 to 780. I know a guy that used to runs SAT, when he gets to his turns to do masters in Yankee, he had 1580 over 1600 in GRE. He’s now in Yankee. When you go to Unilag and you see social life, how their girls working bu.tt naked, you will think majority are not serious in Unilag.
When I got to Yankee, I was fortunate to work in testing center in one popular US University. You will see students with grade of 4.0/4.0, but when he or she does GRE or GMAT; they barely score close to 900/1600. In every graduation in US you will see more 4.0/4.0 students than anything, just because US grading is cumulative, what you have done after mid-term will never be asked again. Unlike in Nigeria, at the end of semester you will be asked what you have learned since the beginning of semester. Then, in Nigeria, everything is based on knowledge most time, in Yankee it’s your effort most time.
That’s why you see even a drop-out in Nigeria will get to Yankee and snap 4.0/4.0. Things they can never try in common Yabatech.

Those of you that argue wrongly, my school in US was just 2200 students and we had close to 80 students with GPA from 3.5 to 4.0 on 4.0 scale. I guess Unilag should be around 30,000 now and you said 87 students too much. Y’all need to get right!

Bro, you are right though, I will rate Unilag as one of the best in the world. I remember, 2002,03,04. We have some young chaps in Unilag, they runs all these standardize tests for people. That’s why I confirmed that we have brains in Nigeria. When SAT was 1600, before they later Changed it 2400, I know like six different guys that had 1590 more than four times each for people. In GMAT their promised scores start from 730 to 780. I know a guy that used to runs SAT, when he gets to his turns to do masters in Yankee, he had 1580 over 1600 in GRE. He’s now in Yankee. When you go to Unilag and you see social life, how their girls working bu.tt unclothed, you will think majority are not serious in Unilag.

U must be kidding. A lot of my classmates in secondary school probably comprise a significant number of the first class students and my experience with them, does not in any way place them in the same group as the best of the world

SEFAGO:

U must be kidding. A lot of my classmates in secondary school probably comprise a significant number of the first class students and my experience with them, does not in any way place them in the same group as the best of the world

Who are your classmates? What is your department? For the fact that your classmates never made you proud doesn't mean other departments not doing good. I know like three of these boys that got Chevron scholarship too, or that is not by merit again?

When SAT was 1600, before they later Changed it 2400, I know like six different guys that had 1590 more than four times each for people.

Really??

Who are your classmates? What is your department? For the fact that your classmates never made you proud doesn't mean other departments not doing good. I know like three of these boys that got Chevron scholarship too, or that is not by merit again?

ISL boys. Most of them were/are in the engineering departments at Unilags with a few in computer science. The one who were around the same academic ability (some Way higher/slightly higher/slightly lower) comprise a significant part of the people have cuulatives in the engineering departments at unilag with CGPAs around 4.5.

I wouldn't call them super smart. I have seen way better in the US . Just check asians out.

When I got to Yankee, I was fortunate to work in testing center in one popular US University. You will see students with grade of 4.0/4.0, but when he or she does GRE or GMAT; they barely score close to 900/1600. In every graduation in US you will see more 4.0/4.0 students than anything, just because US grading is cumulative, what you have done after mid-term will never be asked again. Unlike in Nigeria, at the end of semester you will be asked what you have learned since the beginning of semester. Then, in Nigeria, everything is based on knowledge most time, in Yankee it’s your effort most time.

My undergrad hasn't had a 4.0 in its history. Lots of 3.9s though.

The place you worked at must be a state school, am I correct?

Those of you that argue wrongly, my school in US was just 2200 students and we had close to 80 students with GPA from 3.5 to 4.0 on 4.0 scale

True that, the US is grade inflated though. They are like father christmas, dashing out As. However, I think its because one can choose the class they are going to take for their major and given more academic freedom than Nigeria.

Great, I envy those students. I think the reason Y we have lots of 1st class grads from mostly 1st generation university, even though Unilag isnt one, is that U have lecturers who also graduated wit 1st class when they were students 2. Though I didnt go finish from a 1st generation University, not even a 2nd generation, but a state university. It baffled me that weneva i wrote an examination 4a course taken by a visiting lecturer I score nothin less than 'A', but rarely would I score A in a course lectured by say my HOD or other lecturers in my department. A reason Y couldnt make a 1st class but a weak 2nd class upper.

SEFAGO:

Really??

I wouldn't call them super smart. I have seen way better in the US . Just check asians out.

Which Asians? Do you know US rated Nigerians as the highiest education seeking people in USA. Let me tell you, Asians boys have been known for fraud. They used camera pens to record the exams, I watched the documentary. But in Nigeria's case, some people hire chaps to do the exams, but that doesn't take it away that they are some talented Asians or Nigerians though.

SEFAGO:

True that, the US is grade inflated though. They are like father christmas, dashing out As. However, I think its because one can choose the class they are going to take for their major and given more academic freedom than Nigeria.

Lol, you will hear he plays American football and still had 4.0/4.0. It's just all about efforts mehn!

akigbemaru:

Which Asians? Do you know US rated Nigerians as the highiest education seeking people in USA. Let me tell you, Asians boys have been known for fraud. They used camera pens to record the exams, I watched the documentary. But in Nigeria's case, some people hire chaps to do the exams, but that doesn't take it away that they are some talented Asians or Nigerians though.

Seeking education, and attending the best schools in the world are two different things. Asians make 50% of Berkeley, arguably the best school in the world, a school that is trying to keep its black population up to 8%. Asians do cheat, but not all, and they are really consistent grades wise to suggest  cheating is not a continuous thing for them. They both combine cheating and studying hard.

I do think Nigeria's grading system is a bit unfair though. So how many people get third class? Only the bottom 7% in UK or US universities get a third. I a sure it would be higher in Nigeria. No wonder someone like fawehinmi could 3rd class and still be a brilliant lawyer.

SEFAGO:

Seeking education, and attending the best schools in the world are two different things. Asians make 50% of Berkeley, arguably the best school in the world, a school that is trying to keep its black population up to 8%. Asians do cheat, but not all, and they are really consistent grades wise to suggest cheating is not a continuous thing for them. They both combine cheating and studying hard.

Those asians parents are stinkly rich, so even senator kid will not want to pay for school in US. Everybody from naija looks for scholarship.
Sometimes, smartness doesn't necessarily makes you the best, look at Bill Gate, Michael Dell and co. They are all dropped out and now they have most impacts.

@Sefago

You do not need to be supersmart to make a first class in either Nigeria or the US. You just need to be smart and consistent.

Now these Asians you mentioned, while some of them are extremely solid in the sciences (maths, engineering, programming), they are very weak in other areas. Equally, they have a very strong support group in grad school which allows them to shine.

In summary, anyone who makes a First Class in a good Nigerian university can do the same in the US , provided he is ready to strecth himself to learn and relearn and does not rest on his oars. Chikena!

SEFAGO:

I do think Nigeria's grading system is a bit unfair though. So how many people get third class? Only the bottom 7% in UK or US universities get a third. I a sure it would be higher in Nigeria.  No wonder someone like fawehinmi could 3rd class and still be a brilliant lawyer.

Thats it, the way things work here in naija is kinda abnormal in most cases. Otherwise how can a lecturer threaten students that they shouldnt bother about wateva they have written, He owns 'A', God owns 'B', and 'C' is 4d students.

akigbemaru:

Those asians parents are stinkly rich, so even senator kid will not want to pay for school in US. Everybody from naija looks for scholarship.
Sometimes, smartness doesn't necessarily makes you the best, look at Bill Gate, Michael Dell and co. They are all dropped out and now they have most impacts.

LOL, no they are not. Thats the point. The large majority of asians win scholarships to schools in the US. Naija people too look for scholarships but their numbers are significantly less than the japanese (China is one freaking big country so no comparison).

Bill Gate and Michael Dell are really smart academically. Super smart especially Bill Gates who is a really a genius academically.

loma:

@Sefago

You do not need to be supersmart to make a first class in either Nigeria or the US. You just need to be smart and consistent.

Now these Asians you mentioned, while some of them are extremely solid in the sciences (maths, engineering, programming), they are very weak in other areas. Equally, they have a very strong support group in grad school which allows them to shine.

In summary, anyone who makes a First Class in a good Nigerian university can do the same in the US , provided he is ready to strecth himself to learn and relearn and does not rest on his oars. Chikena!

I agree, except would differ in some aspects. Anyone who can make a 2-1 and even 2-2 in Nigeria can easily make a 1st class equivalent (3.6+) in 90% of their universities. When you now get to the creme de la creme of American universities, then i would argue only a few of the first class Nigerian students would even make even a 2-1 (3.4-3.5 cGPA) in the US.

Asians are good everywhere. Its bad belle that makes Nigerians not see this. They are solid all round. The people who suggest that they are weak in some areas are usually oyibo who are jealous. This is a typical asian, first generation parent comes to the US, works hard and gets a PhD since that is the only way they can stay in the US. The asian now makes his son, attend the best secondary/universities and his son could excel in anything while entering prestigious work fields usually the prerogative of oyibo people.

@ vola - do u think unilag is a sch ?

Only Dumb ass and dumb blondes are hating on this thread, wats dere to av a ist class, if oau wants 2 produce 2, who cares!!! as far as am concern dy ar dreamkillers. Congrats to dose who came out with dm 1st class

it is crazy how can a university come up with 87 first class with the below par education system we are operating even if developed countries you dont have such first class in numbers.I remembered that was a time a student of convenant university had first class but when he went to unilag for his masters he could not scale through.Unilag is always in the habit of giving out first class i dont believe those grade at the end of the day they cannot perform when you conduct an interview alongside with students that came out with second class.There was a time a woman told me that she attended an interview with a first class student from Unilag and the guy perform woefully while the performed more and she is a graduate of one of the polytechnics.Well,wish them goodluck

i smell a rat,

switchmax8:

it is crazy how can a university come up with 87 first class with the below par education system we are operating even in developed countries you dont have such first class in numbers.

too many first class in an edu system where;
1.Funding is poor.
2.libraries got no quality research materials.
3.students dont even have decent accommodation.
4.parents dont have enough fund to cater for wards edu needs.
5.reading and learning culture has rapidly declined.

Where is the connection btw our fallen standard of education,poor funding on
the part of govt and this huge number of first class awards?

If the student have worked hard enough,then they deserved it. If otherwise,the COPORATE WORLD(AN IDEAL SETTINGS) will checkmate them and the shame goes back to both the holder of the certificate and the school(UNILAG). The truth is that if the so called 87 students graduate from OAU,not all of them will GRADUATE with 1:1,some may come out with 1:1,some with 2:1 and some 2:2. Even do not be surprised some may come out with 3rd class. What i am saying here is that: what determined your grade in OAU is not only how brilliant or your intelligency you are,but also how best can you managed the stress from the so called wicked lecturers with bulky materials to read. Some may be coming from a family background,that he/she may not pass through any stress in life and you find yourself in OAU, Those who pass through the knows exactly what i'm saying. That is why in OAU-IFE we believe there is much to face after school and your grade does not matter to what you can offer.


"Zens Capability Theory"

God bless.
Folu

It's so heart-warming to see that people are actually following in my foot steps 

Toooooooooooo much.Well i congratulate them but let me advise them to come for their masters in Unilorin and see what wld happen.

d nos of 1st class in unilag is much. imagine a lecturer in faculty of art and law in lasu teling student dat they can never had 1st class and dat record is stil der,lasu law had never produce a 1st class b 4

I reserve my comments

.hmmm. .

i did not attend unilag,my girlfriend just grad frm lag and i can tell u that more pple were suppose to grad wit 1st class if not dat d sch decided to reduce 1st class student.in unilag,the lecturers teach well and encourage students to read well and research.if a 2.1 student in unilag can put d same effort in ilorin i can bet u d person wuld grad wit a 1st class.am not saying student don't sort,but i can tell u if u read well u will pass well.am planning to start my mba there cos of their structures that is fully functional.

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Well they've gotten it, if you no like am, una no where dia VC office dey

There are many factors that determine your first class in any higher institution in Nigeria. 1st is yourself if u determine from year one that u r going to have it and u work towards it u will have it, your first class start from yr year 1 result. 2nd is the school policy, if the school peg the number of first class in any year to a particular number, there is no amount of reading u will do even if u deserve it u will not be given. 3rd is your lecturers if those lecturers are not friendly as in encouraging u, it will be difficult. 4th is luck, we have cases of missing result in all our university anything can happen to your script and a lazy lecturer might not border to look for it he will just award u any mark he likes and if u want to call for your paper there are a lot of unfavorable conditions attached to it.

if u r not sure of the unilag 1st class, u can get a transfer from your school to Unilag and come and try. Those people deserve it, i have been to Unilag and other higher institution we know the difference.

Those institution that is given 2 or 3 first class out of thousands of graduant, r u saying all other student are not first class candidate? or they dont have first class brain?

Think about it