She's been raped. But rape is a call of nature. Who is to be blamed?

Nobody can decide not to answer to the call of nature. I mean no damn body. Pinky can you? Shockreaction can you decide not to take a piss? Seun can you decide not to pooh paah; I mean "****?"

<snip> can you decide not to be aroused sexually if you see something that stimulates the arousal.

I can hear <snip> say, (ah and hot-angel) "No!" in unison

She was dressed provocatively and was exposing her luscious boobs and the near surface of her "punanny."

Somebody like <snip> (but not <snip>sees her and was aroused and he OBEYED the call of nature.

He raped her.

Who is to be blamed? The boy or the girl?

House treat this and let's erdicate rape like federal government's incapacitated ability to eradicate everything "eradicatable"

complicated. nobody is to be blame. The best they can both do is enjoy the sex, instead of beating each other up. I mean, you know you can't get out of the rape, so why not enjoy the sex.

Rape is criminal. Rape is degrading. Rape is dehumanizing another person. It has nothing to do with nature!! There is no excuse for this. Any man who uses the excuse that a girl was dressed too provocatively should be shot dead in my opinion. Anybody who rapes does not need a girl dressed provocatively in order to do such a despicable act, they could act that way even if a girl is dressed in a burka; like mental cases, they've got issues and need psychiatric help. They need to be locked up and then put on a register if they are to be later released on to the general public again.

And this goes for members of both sexes, as girls have been known to be rapists too.

Wow that interesting.

I have thought about the rape situation and I agree that enjoying the sex is not a bad idea, it might prevent them from killing you.
At the same time I think there is responsibility on both ends but the principle remains the same.

1ST.
No matter how a woman is dressed, it is wrong to take her values without her verbal permittion. She is not to blame for him allowing his nature to take over his logic. Yes he may have been provoked and nature is stronger than law but he still had a choice and because there was a choice he is wrong in principle. To be raped is a serious violation to a woman or man and it can damage a person for a long life time.

2ND.
It is important that the woman becomes aware of her role in the situation. It's important that she understand that it is not her fault that some man had problems controlling his nature. It is equally important that we as women become aware of our powers, especially the power of physical beauty & seduction and how we manipulate men with our clothing, shoes, body language, voice, make up and more. We must be clear that the image we project is sure to produce some results. Now I'm not saying that a modest dressed woman would not be raped, I'm saying that a modest dressed woman has a lesser chance in being raped than a woman who is exposed.

We must be clear what type of blame we are talking about. The fact that the man violated a universal principle of respect as God's creation puts him at fault. The principle is what is to be looked at and in that principle is responsibility.

That's my take on it

The more excuses we (as women) give for why we should be raped the more rapists would go on raping. There are nudist/naturist groups all over the western world, that have both sexes as members; I am yet to read about men in those groups who had to go about raping the women because they were naked. Rapists are sexually deprived mental cases in my opinion! Nobody deserves to be raped!

pkrix:

She was dressed provocatively and was exposing her luscious boobs and the near surface of her "punanny."

Somebody like c0dec (but not c0dec)sees her and was aroused and he OBEYED the call of nature.

He raped her.

She dressed provocatively...and he saw her...and he had to OBEY the call of nature.
My question is; Was the rapist the only man that saw her dressed provocatively? NO. I'm sure she must have encountered other men on her way before meeting the rapist.
How come the other men did not obey the call of nature? Why was it only HIM that obeyed?
How come a girl dressed provocatively does not get raped like 7 or 8 times in a day by different men...if it is truly the call of nature.
The other men had SELF CONTROL. Men generally like to push blame around, the first man on earth did it...so it is only natural for an idiot who lacks self control to push the blame to the lady.

Bottom Line: The MAN is to blame. If other men could refuse to be lured, he should be able to refuse too. His inability to refuse makes him less than a normal man, so he's a RETARD. All rapists need deliverance and rehabilitation in a remand home to build their self control.

There's this thing called "self-control"... Trust me, keeping yourself from having sex isn't that tasking. Just find something else to keep you very occupied.

No, provocative dressing isn't an excuse for a guy to carry out something as harmful/stupid as rape. It's just so inhumane. If the girl is consenting, then there's absolutely no problem. But if she isn't, you have got to respect her, and her feelings, no matter how she's dressed, even if she's completely naked (but that's just asking for trouble).

And for chicks, they know what they are capable of doing to a guy's mind when they're dressed like that... They most likely want to tease and/or gain the upper hand (need to put this statement in a better way), I guess.

RAPE is a criminal act. No matter how provocative a girl dress you have NO RIGHT to think you can rape her. Sex should be consensual. As Shockreaction said above Self Control is the word. And beside why, is it that difficult to find a girlfriend to warrant raping?

How can you suggest that rape is a call of nature? Rape is a crime punishable by life imprisonment and there is no excuse for it whatsoever.

According to [url=http://www.nigeria-law.org/Criminal%20Code%20Act-PartV.htm#Chapter%2030]Chapter 30[/url] of the Criminal Code Act of the Federal Republic of Nigeria:
[list][li]Any person who has unlawful carnal knowledge of a woman or girl, without her consent, or with her consent, if the consent is obtained by force or by means of threats or intimidation of any kind, or by fear of harm, or by means of false and fraudulent representation as to the nature of the act, or, in the case of a married woman, by personating her husband, is guilty of an offence which is called rape.[/li]

[li]Any person who commits the offence of rape is liable to imprisonment for life, with or without caning.[/li]

[li]Any person who attempts to commit the offence of rape is guilty of a felony, and is liable to imprisonment for fourteen years, with or without caning.[/li]

[li]Any person who unlawfully and indecently assaults a woman or girl is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for two years.[/li]

[li]Any person who, with intent to marry or carnally know a female of any age, or to cause her to be married, or carnally known by any other person, takes her away, or detains her, against her will, is guilty of a felony, and is liable to imprisonment for seven years.[/li]

[li]Any person who unlawfully takes an unmarried girl under the age of sixteen years out of the custody or protection of her father or mother or other person having the lawful care or charge of her, and against the will of such father or mother or other person, is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for two years.[/li]

[li]It is immaterial that the offender believed the [underaged] girl to be of or above the age of sixteen years[/li]

[li]It is immaterial that the [underaged] girl was taken with her own consent or at her own suggestion.[/li][/list]

Even if a woman is naked and on your bed, you may not have sex with her without her consent. This is neither a joking matter or an issue that is subject to anyone's personal opinion. It is a terribly serious matter; both men and women should take it very seriously.

If you are a lady and you have been raped, report to a close friend then go together to a police station to submit your report. They will direct you to a hospital where doctors can examine you to collect [I]evidence[/I] and determine whether there has been:
[list][li]Recent Intercourse[/li][li]Evidence of forceful penetration[/li][/list]

This is not something to be touched with a ten foot pole, especially in these days when HIV is a major risk.

hot-angel:

complicated. nobody is to be blame. The best they can both do is enjoy the sex, instead of beating each other up. I mean, you know you can't get out of the rape, so why not enjoy the sex.

if you are still sexually inexperienced like u said on another board ["virgins rule"] then you obviously cherish the sanctity of your body so i really dont see how anyone can sit back and "enjoy" being violated...
... how old did you say you were again?...

legs:

hot-angel link=topic=554.msg7141#msg7141 date=1119475778:

complicated. nobody is to be blame. The best they can both do is enjoy the sex, instead of beating each other up. I mean, you know you can't get out of the rape, so why not enjoy the sex.

if you are still sexually inexperienced like you said on another board ["virgins rule"] then you obviously cherish the sanctity of your body so I really don't see how anyone can sit back and "enjoy" being violated...
... how old did you say you were again?...

Very well said my dear, I wonder what people open there mouth to say without thinking about how intelligible it will sound. How can rape be a call of nature when we are not lower class animals. As a matter of fact, any one that does that is of the same class as common animals.

Rape is evil and no excuses for it should be made

whizkid:

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[quote author=hot-angel link=topic=554.msg7141#msg7141 date=1119475778]
complicated. nobody is to be blame. The best they can both do is enjoy the sex, instead of beating each other up. I mean, you know you can't get out of the rape, so why not enjoy the sex.

if you are still sexually inexperienced like you said on another board ["virgins rule"] then you obviously cherish the sanctity of your body so I really don't see how anyone can sit back and "enjoy" being violated...
... how old did you say you were again?...

Very well said my dear, I wonder what people open there mouth to say without thinking about how intelligible it will sound. How can rape be a call of nature when we are not lower class animals. As a matter of fact, any one that does that is of the same class as common animals.
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awww.. Well, i thought since there was nothing the person could do about it, then they should just enjoy the sex. But i guess i was thinking wrong. I am 15 years old.

And what has your age got to do with that? Age does not determine one's level of intelligence, so never mind.

if i were her i will press his dick untill he dies, it almost happened to me one time like that but trust i'm too smart 4 that nonsense i dealt with him seriously. asper daddy's girl

olufunmi its not that easy

Olufunmi, it is better to report to the police so at least the boy (if he's young) will get a strong warning and never, ever try it again. Else he might try it another day and this time he may be stronger or have some 'friends' to join him in this perversion ('gang rape').

It is better to drive the idea of rape out of the mind of a young boy before he grows up and becomes a source of pain to the women in his life (the vast majority of rapes are carried out by someone who knows the girl or woman in real life ). It is a serious offence in any country.

The boy of course!  He had no self control.  If he accidentally barge in on her sister or probably her female cousin who has nothing on in the bathroom, perhaps he would do the same.  Her exposing her sensitive part does not call for rape.  He could be a sexmaniac [editor: huh?]

emm... i'm certain nymphomaniacs are generally women

The rapist is a criminal.

But you people are focussing on raping from a narrow angle. What if a husband forcefully had sex with her wife? What do you call that? Rape of course even your boy friend can rape you if he did it against your will, he has commited the crime.

Also, lady can also rape a man. Believe it or not it had happened before.

Here is live story! Some young men(4) of them went and raped a lady without knowing she was HIV victim. The girl pleaded with them and even told them she was HIV+ but they turned a deaf ear to her thinking that she wanted to scare them, but they eventually signed their death warrant by raping her successfully.

Rapists! repent now!

I for one will be the first to state that there is simply no provocation on the face of this earth that shld lead a man to commit rape. if he cant control himself then he is no better than an animal...come to think of it iv never seen animals rape each other...guess that makes the rapist a special sub-breed of animal. Does he think of the consequences of his action to the girl and to himself. Every rapist needs help 2day his crime is against a defenceless woman, 2morrow...? ur guess is as good as mine.

The other argument that, though she said no, her body said yes (HOW!) is equally untenable. Nobody can claim to be blind to the fact that a woman is not enjoyin herself, abi?

A rapist is simply put a predator who takes advantage of the weak in society. I will not however advocate that all rapists be shot or castrated because i believe it serves no useful purpose.

The truth to many is abhor and non-logistic.

What a pity many do not understand the abhorrence of the truth.

I really doubt if we should call it rape. you see? when a girl is held, she simply gives in because she has already been motivated just to discover it after the excercise. But she is strong and has a strong voice to shout and ask for help. To me, they merely give in and complain after.

Sorry if no be so oooooo!

It is not so; in fact I have no further interest in this topic. This is something for law enforcement agents and trained trauma counselors to deal with.

hot.......... complicated. nobody is to be blame. The best they can both do is enjoy the sex, instead of beating each other up. I mean, you know you can't get out of the rape, so why not enjoy the sex.
can not believe ur comment. why the hell wld somone stay back and enjoy it. i think the person is not normal. the dude needs to be blamed. the fact that i wear short clothes or wear open tops does not mean i wanna get raped or calling guys to rape me. that is no excuse any one that says so needs to be kept in the psychiatric Hospital. (they are in sane)

What happens in cases where the Husband rapes his Wife?

why are u lot writing crap. i am disappointed and pissed with some of u lot in here. why wld u say that they are strong and have a strong voice which means that they shld shout. come on man. where r u from? watever
anyways calling for help, what happens if help does not come unnnnnnnnn. or if the dude is stronger than the gurl unnnnn. i think some of u have not met gurls that have been raped before so pls stop passing 'stupid' comments aight

Rape is a disgusting crime, no matter what the circumstances are

That is why it should be handled by doctors, law enforcement officers, trauma counselors lawyers, and judges.

Not a forum like this where people just want to interact with others and have fun!

if he knew she had AIDS how e for do na

to me..... i don't believe that a girl can be raped by just one person, if that happens, that means the girl is to be blame. Because she has so many weapons like her teeth, her nails and so on. If a girl is raped, she needs it. in some cases she must have been eating the boy's money and accepting gift from the guy and does not want to date him. like it is said, sex is worth waiting for, but i have seen cases where a guy will rape his girlfriend. my advice to babes is that if u know u don't want to have sex with a guy NO NEAR THEM otherwise enjoy the sex while it last and guys wey dey rape girls, do u know if she is free from disease. Cos i know that there is no how the guy will use condom cos of time.

Shei I really pity the girl because she will hate guys and will not want to have anything to do with guys again. But I got to blame the kanji in the guys over the girls.OBJ shud ban kanji (Indecency) films and Internet kanji maybe it will reduce the kanji spirit in our land...I will blame you the RAPPIST you better ZIP UP, remember she fit get AIDS/HIV

In my own opinion,nobody blame the devil for the temptation.
 
   On a more serious note,i think rape is not abt being phisically enticing or provacative,its about self-control and resisting temptation.afterall its not all one sees that one must touch.and wat do u say about cases where the girl was modestly dressed.In all,  think rape is a really dehumanizing crime and anybody who commits rape should be punished and chained for behaving like a animal because thats how animals behave (watch monkeys mating on DISCOVERY) and should also be physically examined.CHIKENA!!